Believing on Christ is a evidence of being born again !

[Ritajanice]

correct .
Those who are NOW BELEIVING are born again .
NOW ya understand WHY i despise interifath and the lie so darn much .
Inclusivism sure claims A LIE sister . Those who BELIEVE NOT are NOT the born again .
THE BORN AGAIN are BELEIVING IN HIM .
so you all have a blessed day now and remember that interfaith is OF ANTI CHRIST .

Fair enough....Amen.

 

[amigo de christo]

And if that Jailor was born of God, he would believe in Jesus whom they preached, but its not the arminian false jesus, but the Jesus who came to save His people from their sins Matt 1:21

i have no idea what arminian means . But this i do know if the jesus anyone follows and loves
accepts sins , IT AINT JESUS baby . its the devil using His name to DECIEVE . just a real friendly , BUT DIRE NECESSARY reminder .
And a far simplier way to put that is to say this ,
IF one claims to BELIEVE IN JESUS , yet sure dont seem to BELEIVE HIS WORDS but rather heed men who twist and omit such words
THEYS GOT NO FAITH IN JESUS THE CHRIST , their faith is in MEN not GOD . MEN not Christ . and we better
get in the bible for our own selves and fast .

 

[amigo de christo]

How do we know our trust is in men and not GOD , not Christ .
its simple really
WHOSE WORDS ARE YOU BELEIVING ,..... many trust in men that twist and boy do they shout give us more of those words .
That twist and shout aint gonna bode well on JUDGMENT DAY .
WHOSE WORDS do we BELEIVE , WHOSE WORDS do we BELIEVE . That be a MASSIVE KEY as to who we TRUST
and where our FAITH IS ......................

 

[amigo de christo]

Shall we heed the words of men
or the WORDS OF GOD .
OH its bible time for sure and for certain . Let us see whose words we have been trusting in all along .
For every WORD OF GOD is TRUTH , PURE and LOVELY to the soul of a lamb .
Its the twisted words of men i can LIVE and DO WITHOUT . You all have a blessed day now .

 

[amigo de christo]

Let’s get busy seeking God out with all of our heart, for there is where you will find him, scripture confirms this....you won’t find God in the Bible.

God is very much a Living Powerful Holy/ Pure Spirit, the Bible confirms this..

God is not the Bible.....Knowledge Of The Bible, is no knowledge at all...without the Spirit.

I love God and I love reading the Bible, when the Spirit leads me through it and brings some scripture to my understanding in my spirit.

That be key . HE or she who is born again would have LOVED GOD , CHRIST
and if one loves GOD , Christ they would love all words HE DID INSPIRE . that be the key .

 

[Ritajanice]

WHOSE WORDS ARE YOU BELEIVING

This when discernment comes in...we follow Jesus / Spirit...we don’t follow a strangers voice.

I have been deceived by the enemy .....as imo discernment develops...it took a long time for me to see the lies of the enemy in a certain situation....he was so convincing and had a real hold on me.

Not anymore I am now believing God in that situation 100% ..he got me to believe him in the end.

Remember, Brother, the enemy can get a strong foothold in some areas of our life, where there is a weakness....this is when we need to stand on his word.

Just my thoughts.

 

[Marvelloustime]

i have no idea what arminian means . But this i do know if the jesus anyone follows and loves
accepts sins , IT AINT JESUS baby . its the devil using His name to DECIEVE . just a real friendly , BUT DIRE NECESSARY reminder .
And a far simplier way to put that is to say this ,
IF one claims to BELIEVE IN JESUS , yet sure dont seem to BELEIVE HIS WORDS but rather heed men who twist and omit such words
THEYS GOT NO FAITH IN JESUS THE CHRIST , their faith is in MEN not GOD . MEN not Christ . and we better
get in the bible for our own selves and fast .

@amigo de christo

 

[Ritajanice]

That be key . HE or she who is born again would have LOVED GOD , CHRIST
and if one loves GOD , Christ they would love all words HE DID INSPIRE . that be the key .

And I do love his words that he reveals to my heart...

 

[amigo de christo]

This when discernment comes in...we follow Jesus / Spirit...we don’t follow a strangers voice.

I have been deceived by the enemy .....as imo discernment develops...it took a long time for me to see the lies of the enemy in a certain situation....he was so convincing and had a real hold on me.

Not anymore I am now believing God in that situation 100% ..he got me to believe him in the end.

Remember, Brother, the enemy can get a strong foothold in some areas of our life, where there is a weakness....this is when we need to stand on his word.

Just my thoughts.

Yes the enemy can get a stronghold
but in every case the fault is , the blame is on ourselves .
REPENTANCE be the key .

 

[Marvelloustime]

So now lets get busy preaching the dire need to BELEIVE ON THAT NAME , rather than doing as do many
and heading into interfaith and its false big ol road it calls love . That trainride ends Badly .
Real bad end for that train .
So allow me some parting words that a jailer once asked a very long time ago , AND THANK GOD paul and silas
were not of interfaith , But sirs what must i do to be Saved , BELEIVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST

@amigo de christo

 

[Ritajanice]

Yes the enemy can get a stronghold
but in every case the fault is , the blame is on ourselves .
REPENTANCE be the key .

I don’t repent and no, I was not to blame....I repented once and once only, even then God brought me to repentance.
After becoming Born Again I have never repented..not once.
Therefore there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ.

Your understanding of sin is the opposite to my understanding of sin.

You need to understand @amigo de christo that we are being conformed into Jesus image, our minds are being renewed daily.
We are on a spiritual journey , I was deceived, therefore I walk in faith, waiting for Gods truth to be witnessed to my heart...I walk in faith , BELIEVING in my heart that God will witness that truth to my heart, so that I will believe his word....instead the enemy at one time was winning, telling me lies in my head....don’t you think that God wanted me to exercise my faith/ belief in him?....the word of God needs to penetrate deeply into my heart, that takes time...therefore we carry on walking that walk of faith, so NO!..I disagree that I was to blame...I would say that you have a misunderstanding of what it means to walk in faith @amigo de christo .


We’ve been set free from sin and are in the true vine..the Spirit can’t indwell the spirit of an unforgiven sinner.
A Born Again does not continue to sin, they can’t go on sinning because they have been Born Of God’s seed.

Spirit gives birth to spirit.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Without faith it is impossible to please GOD .
And HE who believes not GOD has no faith in HIM .
If a man believes not JESUS the CHRIST then that man has no faith .
And all who reject HIM will be rejected .
A man , outside of FAITH in CHRIST , standing before HIM on the day of judgment
and doing all to convince HIM of their own works
IS as a turd trying to convince one its clean and can be eaten just cause its in the toilet and that water has cleansed it .
Just some friendly advice
I SURE WOULD not heed that turd . NOR can man convince GOD of his own righteousness , apart from FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS .
I suggest all flee the tabernacles of this so called love , so called interfaith that sure tries to say otherwise .

@amigo de christo

 

[Ritajanice]

@Marvelloustime @amigo de christo

 

[Ritajanice]

@amigo de christo ..do you understand what is being said here?

What are we to endure in?....you think it comes easy to believe what God has revealed to our heart in certain situations?...if it were that easy ...to believe it, do you think that we would appreciate it...plus what would we gain by receiving something that easy from God?

What do you think walking in faith means?.....I can assure you it’s no easy walk in the park.

 

[Lizbeth]

A Born Again does not continue to sin, they can’t go on sinning because they have been Born Of God’s seed.

What has been born of God's seed? It is our new man. Our new man cannot sin, because it has been created after the image of He who created it. But we are still living with our old man of the flesh and that is why John also said "if we say we have no sin the truth is not in us". And why Paul could say of the believer, it is no longer I who sin but sin living in me. If our old man rises up and causes us to sin after the new birth we need to keep short accounts with God and acknowledge the sin as sin and repent of it.

 

[JLB]

Many in religion these days have things backwards, they suppose that men can perform a spiritual act from a spiritually dead heart. Yes men naturally born of adam are born spiritually dead. Thats why Jesus told nicodemus a man must be born again or he cannot see the kingdom of God, Christ and Him Crucified. The word see Jn 3:3

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. is the greek word eidō and means:

to know, i.e. get knowledge of, understand, perceive

This certainly agrees with Pauls wisdom here 1 Cor 2:14

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know[understand] them, because they are spiritually discerned.

But once God Sovereignly gives a vessel of mercy a new birth by the Spirit, they are now capacitated Spiritually to believe Spiritually on Christ, hence Jesus says that those who did receive Him, even believe on His Name, did so because they had been born of God Jn 1:12-13

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.


So the ones believing had been previously born of God, this testimony of truth cannot be more clearer !

Believing in Him is how we become born again.


For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16

 

[Ritajanice]

What has been born of God's seed?

Our spirit has been Born Of God’s seed...where does the Holy Spirit take up residence?

What has been birthed in us?

3. Through the work of the Holy Spirit man is given a new heart (nature) and made to walk according to the will of God. Man becomes a new creature in Jesus Christ.

It is our new man.

Romans 6:6-23​

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King James Version​

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6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord

Our new man cannot sin, because it has been created after the image of He who created it.

Scripture that says this please?

But we are still living with our old man of the flesh and that is why John also said "if we say we have no sin the truth is not in us". And why Paul could say of the believer, it is no longer I who sin but sin living in me. If our old man rises up and causes us to sin after the new birth we need to keep short accounts with God and acknowledge the sin as sin and repent

...
A Born Again does not repent of sin, their sins have been forgiven, they are a new creation in Christ,...I repented once, when God brought me to repentance, just before my spirit became Born Again..
The Spirit Of God cannot indwell the spirit of an unforgiven sinner?
After the rebirth we are in Christ, we are being conformed into Jesus image, our minds are being renewed daily....our spirit is Alive in Christ

of it.

We aren’t in the flesh were in the Spirit?

A Born Again cannot go on sinning because they have been Born Of God’s seed..which means, our spirit has been birthed supernaturally by Living divine heart revelation.

Sin cannot indwell the spirit of Gods child?..provided we have been Born Of The Spirit?

• Rom. 8:14 “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.”
• I Cor. 2:10-14 “But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.”
• 1 Cor. 6:11 “And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.”
• 1 Cor. 12:3 “Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.”
• II Cor. 3:6 “… who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.”
• II Cor. 3:17 “Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.”
• II Cor. 3:18 “But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.”
• I Pet. 1:2 “…elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace be multiplied.”

2. Sinners, through regeneration, are brought into God’s kingdom and made His children. The author of this new birth is the Holy Spirit. The instrumentwhich He uses is the preaching of the Word of God.

• John 1:12-13 “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”
• John 3:3-8 “Jesus answered and said to him, Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus said to Him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born? Jesus answered, Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, You must be born again. The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
• Titus 3:5-7 “…not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.”
• I Pet. 1:3, 23-25 “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead… having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever, because All flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of the grass. The grass withers, and its flower falls away, but the word of the Lord endures forever. Now this is the word which by the gospel was preached to you.”
• I John 5:4 “For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world – our faith.”

3. Through the work of the Holy Spirit man is given a new heart (nature) and made to walk according to the will of God. Man becomes a new creature in Jesus Christ.

• Deut. 30:6 “And the LORD your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants, to love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live.”
• Jer. 31:33-34 “But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days, says the LORD, I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD, for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”
• Ezek. 36:26-27 “I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.”
• Gal. 6:15 “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation.”
• Eph. 2:10, 18, 22 “For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. …in whom you also are being built together for a habitation of God in the Spirit.”
• II Cor. 5:17-18 “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation.”

 

[Ritajanice]

Continue @Lizbeth ..

We grow in our new man?..the new man is the Spirit, we have a new heart/ spirit within .we grow in spirit, which takes years.

When we are regenerated, God's life and nature enter us, and we become a new creation (2 Cor. 5:17). This is the beginning of the new man.


We grow in the new man, our spirit is being conformed into Jesus image, we should also bear the fruit of the Spirit....we grow in spiritual truth and understanding...God is a Living Spirit, we are partakers Of his divine nature?

We are Born Of The Spirit?...

Ephesians 4:24​

“And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”

How do we put on or understand what the new man is?

By whose testimony?

A true child of God cannot continue to habitually live a lifestyle of sin! It is impossible! In fact, if someone claims to be a child of God but continues in a life of sin, it is more than likely that he was never genuinely born again in the first place. You see, the Bible makes it clear that it is simply impossible for a bona fide child of God to continue in a life of sin! Today I want to tell you the reason why this is impossible.

First John 3:6 says, “Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.” Do you see the word “sinneth” used two times in this verse? In both cases, the Greek tense indicates continuous action, which means the verse could be more accurately translated, “He who abides in him does not go on continually, habitually sinning as a way of life; he who continually goes on routinely sinning as a way of life has not seen him, neither known him.”

I realize this is a very strong statement, but this is precisely what John said to us in this verse. According to this verse, anyone who continues to live in habitual sin does not know Jesus. It could be that this individual has come close to the Kingdom of God and has even tasted the powers of it. But the fact that he has continued uninterrupted in the practice of sin shows that he has never become a real child of God. The fact that his life never changed demonstrates that his nature was never changed. This is exactly what John wrote in First John 3:6.



John then goes on to tell us, “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God” (1 John 3:9). The tense of the word translated “commit” again indicates continuing action, which means the verse could be translated, “Whosoever is born of God simply cannot go on continually sinning.…” And then John tells us why!

John writes, “…for his [God’s] seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” The word “seed” is the Greek word sperma — and yes, it is where we get the word sperm.

According to this phenomenal verse, God injected His own seed into you the day you gave your life to Christ! Just as the sperm of a human father carries the DNA of that father, God’s seed — the Word of God — carries the life and nature of God within it. When that divine seed was implanted on the inside of you, it imparted the very nature of God Himself to your spirit.

Peter referred to this miraculous event when he wrote that you are “…born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever” (1 Peter 1:23). This means the day you got saved, that divine seed came rushing into your spirit, carrying the life and nature of God within it to give you a new nature. Just as a human seed produces a human life, God’s divine seed immediately began to produce the life of God inside you.

In Genesis 1, God declared a spiritual law — that every living thing produces after its own kind (vv. 21,24,25): Humans produce humans; horses produce horses; plants produce plants, and so on. This principle is also true in the spiritual realm. The day that God’s divine seed was planted in you, that seed transported the very nature of God Himself into your spirit, with the full expectation that His very life and nature would be reproduced on the inside of you. This is why your desires suddenly changed after you were born again. This is also why you felt so badly about sin that previously didn’t bother you at all and why you became so driven to possess a holy life. You weren’t the same anymore, because you had a new nature. The nature of God Himself had been planted in you!

This is the reason a genuinely born-again person cannot continue habitually in his past sinful patterns. His new nature will drive him to be different, to be holy, to be like God. His born-again spirit will grieve and sorrow if sins are committed, because such actions violate the new nature that has been implanted in his spirit. If a person continues in sin as though nothing happened inside him, then nothing is probably exactly what did happen! More than likely, he was never really born again, for if he had been born again, that new nature of God within him would not permit him to continue living habitually in sin.

What does this mean for you and me? If a person who claims to be born again continues uninterrupted in habitual sin, we can take it as a strong indicator that he has probably never really been born again. This person may have come close to the Kingdom of God; he may have even learned the lingo of the saints. But the fact that his actions are unchanged indicates that his nature has never been changed. If he had really been infused with the divine seed of God, that life-giving seed would have so changed him that he wouldn’t be able to continue living as he had lived in the past.

This is why I say that people who claim to know the Lord but whose lives never reflect a change should question if they have ever really been born again. The great preacher, Charles Finney, once remarked that most people who attend church are probably not born again. When asked why he believed this, Finney remarked that it was impossible for true children of God to live in blatant sin as many believers do. Finney made this statement over 100 years ago. As I contemplate the amount of sin that is so prevalent in the Church today, it makes me wonder, How many people who attend church in our own day are not genuinely born again?

• Could it be that many who claim to know the Lord really aren’t born again but instead have only been “enlightened” by coming closer to the Kingdom of God?
• If someone is really born of God, could he continue to blatantly live in sin, completely unchanged in his actions or attitudes?
• Doesn’t John tell us that it is impossible for a person to continue in habitual sin if God’s nature genuinely resides in his heart?
• Don’t you think it is tragic that many people who come to church week after week, assuming they are saved, may not really be saved at all?

 

[amigo de christo]

@amigo de christo ..do you understand what is being said here?

What are we to endure in?....you think it comes easy to believe what God has revealed to our heart in certain situations?...if it were that easy ...to believe it, do you think that we would appreciate it...plus what would we gain by receiving something that easy from God?

What do you think walking in faith means?.....I can assure you it’s no easy walk in the park.

your reasoning is all carnal dear sister .

 

[Ritajanice]

your reasoning is all carnal dear sister .

Then show me using scripture where my reasoning is carnal?
Instead of voicing your opinion as usual...plus once again all questions evaded....no discussion...just, “ your reasoning is all carnal dear sister”......one way opinion = no discussion at all...
I know you didn’t understand my post.

• Could it be that many who claim to know the Lord really aren’t born again but instead have only been “enlightened” by coming closer to the Kingdom of God?