Believing on Christ is a evidence of being born again !

[Titus]

…and we know that belief is through FAITH in Christ. Jesus paid the price so that the lost could be cleansed and justified upon repentance.
Galatians 2:16 (NKJV) “knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.

Hello, dont know if we have met.
Faith must be rightly defined.

I agree repentance is a must in order to be saved.

Which proves we are not saved by Faith only.

 

[brightfame52]

Technically, none of the disciples were born again until Pentecost came and then they were baptized by the Holy Spirit.

False statement, all who received Christ during His Public Ministry were born of God Jn 1:12-13

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

 

[brightfame52]

Belief alone never guarantees salvation in the Bible.
Faith onlyism is unbiblical.
No one in the old or new testament believed or taught you were saved if you only believed.

believing in Christ is still an evidence of one having been born again

 

[Titus]

believing in Christ is still an evidence of one having been born again

It's not proof.

Therefore the doctrine that the moment one believes they are saved is false.

 

[Titus]

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Pay close attention to what Gods word says here.

Many who believed were given the power to  become the sons of God.
Does not say they were already the sons of God.

 

[brightfame52]

It's not proof.

Therefore the doctrine that the moment one believes they are saved is false.

It is proof, what you think evidence is ? Duh

 

[brightfame52]

Pay close attention to what Gods word says here.

Many who believed were given the power to  become the sons of God.
Does not say they were already the sons of God.

That post wasnt for you. Are you @Ronald David Bruno ?

 

[GodsGrace]

That post wasnt for you. Are you @Ronald David Bruno ?

Anyone here can write to anyone BF...it's an open board.
And I don't know why @Titus bothers with you.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

False statement, all who received Christ during His Public Ministry were born of God Jn 1:12-13

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

The premise of salvation is the belief in Jesus "death and resurrection". A belief in Him prior to that and prior to Pentecost certainly prepared them for salvation- but they weren't saved yet. They were given the right and power to "become" (future) sons of God".
The gospel was not sent out until after Pentecost ( at which time the disciples were filled with the Holy Spirit and empowered them for missions) and NT scriptures weren't written until decades after Jesus death.
PS ...or would you think people were saved without the blood of Christ?
We have been washed by his blood.

 

[brightfame52]

Anyone here can write to anyone BF...it's an open board.
And I don't know why @Titus bothers with you.

I didnt say they couldnt, its a public forum, nevertheless, the post was directed towards another's comment

 

[brightfame52]

The premise of salvation is the belief in Jesus "death and resurrection". A belief in Him prior to that and prior to Pentecost certainly prepared them for salvation- but they weren't saved yet. They were given the right and power to "become" (future) sons of God".
The gospel was not sent out until after Pentecost ( at which time the disciples were filled with the Holy Spirit and empowered tom for missions) and NT scriptures weren't written until decades after Jesus death.
PS ...or would you think people were saved without the blood of Christ?

There were some who believed on and received Christ long b4 the day of Pentecost, they were born of God scripture says Jn 1:12-13

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Jesus disciples, save judas the son of perdition, received Christ, they were born of God.

 

[Titus]

It is proof, what you think evidence is ? Duh

The premise of salvation is the belief in Jesus "death and resurrection". A belief in Him prior to that and prior to Pentecost certainly prepared them for salvation- but they weren't saved yet. They were given the right and power to "become" (future) sons of God".
The gospel was not sent out until after Pentecost ( at which time the disciples were filled with the Holy Spirit and empowered tom for missions) and NT scriptures weren't written until decades after Jesus death.
PS ...or would you think people were saved without the blood of Christ?

Good very good Sir.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

There were some who believed on and received Christ long b4 the day of Pentecost, they were born of God scripture says Jn 1:12-13

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Jesus disciples, save judas the son of perdition, received Christ, they were born of God.

So you are saying the blood sacrifice wasn't necessary to be spiritually transformed into a new creature? With that premise, Jesus really didn't have to die ... His words would have been enough. ??? And then all the Old Testament Jews who believed in His Word and all the Messianic prophecies were born again too?
I guess you are either stubborn to admit you are wrong or you don't really know what the gospel really means.
It is summarized in one sentence, the prerequisite truth that everyone needs to believe to be saved:
For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, 1 Cor. 15:3-4

 

[amigo de christo]

Hello Brightfame,
If you believe that God's Grace was not given to all people, how do you explain the following bolded words?

Titus 2:11-14
"11 For the grace of God has been revealed, bringing salvation to all people. 12 And we are instructed to turn from godless living and sinful pleasures. We should live in this evil world with wisdom, righteousness, and devotion to God, 13 while we look forward with hope to that wonderful day when the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, will be revealed. 14 He gave his life to free us from every kind of sin, to cleanse us, and to make us his very own people, totally committed to doing good deeds."

Interfaith will destroy them all . No man can stand before GOD on judgment day
without the mercy of HIS grace which is given to those in Christ Jesus .
If a man thinks his religoin , his works , his so called love can save him he has decieved himself .
If a man believes He can stand before GOD and offer up his own works as a bargaining chip before God
that man is blind to the standards of a HOLY RIGHTEOUS GOD
and blind He is to the depravity of his own self that falls far short of the GLORY of GOD .
interfaith a fools gospel and its love will save none . WE SHOULD HAVE PREACHED JESUS to them ,
not told them we all serving the same GOD . the blood of many will be upon much of even christendom who
wallked these religoins and themselves right to damnation . GOD provided the world a lamb , and I SUGGEST we preach
ONLY HIS NAME , JESUS THE CHRIST , and the dire need to beleive on HIM to all .

 

[amigo de christo]

So you are saying the blood sacrifice wasn't necessary to be spiritually transformed into a new creature? With that premise, Jesus really didn't have to die ... His words would have been enough. ??? And then all the Old Testament Jews who believed in His Word and all the Messianic prophecies were born again too?
I guess you are either stubborn to admit you are wrong or you don't really know what the gospel really means.
It is summarized in one sentence, the prerequisite truth that everyone needs to believe to be saved:
For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, 1 Cor. 15:3-4

Interfaith will destroy them all . No man can stand before GOD on judgment day
without the mercy of HIS grace which is given to those in Christ Jesus .
If a man thinks his religoin , his works , his so called love can save him he has decieved himself .
If a man believes He can stand before GOD and offer up his own works as a bargaining chip before God
that man is blind to the standards of a HOLY RIGHTEOUS GOD
and blind He is to the depravity of his own self that falls far short of the GLORY of GOD .
interfaith a fools gospel and its love will save none . WE SHOULD HAVE PREACHED JESUS to them ,
not told them we all serving the same GOD . the blood of many will be upon much of even christendom who
wallked these religoins and themselves right to damnation . GOD provided the world a lamb , and I SUGGEST we preach
ONLY HIS NAME , JESUS THE CHRIST , and the dire need to beleive on HIM to all .

 

[amigo de christo]

It is proof, what you think evidence is ? Duh

Whosoever believeth that JESUS is the CHRIST is born of GOD .

 

[NotTheRock]

...believing in Christ is still an evidence of one having been born again

Joe Biden believes in Jesus. Should we surmise that Joe is "born again"?

 

[NotTheRock]

Whosoever believeth that JESUS is the CHRIST is born of GOD .

Verse?

 

[amigo de christo]

Joe Biden believes in Jesus. Should we surmise that Joe is "born again"?

Which is an excellent question my friend . Are we to surmise that Joe is born again .
Ask yourself what jesus does joe follow . and then ask yourself why i didnt capitlize that one .
YOU asked a real good question my friend .
Many believe in another jesus all together . while it may have promised them salvation
it sure seems to accept sins . GUESS what , that one aint JESUS THE CHRIST and that one cannot save .
Time we learn the biblical one and all them lovely scriptures for our selves . For many do follow another jesus
and while it says the word love a lot , that one sure dont seem to LOVE GOD at all but rather panders to man to please man .

 

[Ritajanice]

Which is an excellent question my friend . Are we to surmise that Joe is born again .
Ask yourself what jesus does joe follow . and then ask yourself why i didnt capitlize that one .
YOU asked a real good question my friend .
Many believe in another jesus all together . while it may have promised them salvation
it sure seems to accept sins . GUESS what , that one aint JESUS THE CHRIST and that one cannot save .
Time we learn the biblical one and all them lovely scriptures for our selves . For many do follow another jesus
and while it says the word love a lot , that one sure dont seem to LOVE GOD at all but rather panders to man to please man .

If others pander to another belief system, what business is that of yours or mine?