ICE raid on churches, have they gone too far?

[quietthinker]

Thats kind of a blanket statement

Gal 2:11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

Context!...hear it.

 

[Verily]

Context!...hear it.

You simply said, " Blame is the game of the ignorant!

The context was "blame"

I know you weren't going to blame me for not hearing the context

 

[pepper]

Blame is the game of the ignorant!

Great way to slap yourself in that judgement. Maybe you don't remember all you've said.

Defending serial lawlessness and advocating for human trafficking and invasion is the tactic of the immoral.

You should stop.
You thinking of yourself as righteous as you commit to those evils. And realize with every post against America,the country being offended,you as an Australian, look the fool.

Advocating for the destruction of this country and slandering Christ when invoking scriptures to support your sins, implying Jesus approves, outs who you really are.

Children are being murdered by illegals. Illegals are abusing and killing people and animals too.
Tax paying Americans are losing benefits so that illegals can receive them. And there's more.

What you are doing is defending lawlessness and sins. While condemning law enforcement.
That's not of God.

If this thread gets back on track there is more for Americans to discuss regarding our national security and future. Till then UK utilities appear to be the derail priority.

 

[NotTheRock]

It seems that there is a desire to hunt down people even as they go to church..
"Latino pastor speaks out against 'harmful' ICE raids at churches: 'Deeply concerned'

A Latino pastor said churches are fearful of mass deportations at services as President Donald Trump's administration rapidly cracks down on illegal immigration.

"We're called as pastors to serve all communities," Reverend Dr. Gabriel Salguero told Fox News Digital. "So we don't ask, as pastors, whether people are immigrants and what their status is. We don't have the bandwidth, and we're not Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers. We're not police. But we're deeply concerned about how these policies are going to affect children in our Sunday schools and for families that are in our worship service."

Salguero is pastor of The Gathering Place in Orlando, Florida, and president of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition, (NaLEC), which represents thousands of Latino evangelical churches and faith leaders across the nation...

Trump has authorized the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to roll back guidelines that restricted ICE and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) enforcement at "sensitive" locations, like schools, churches and hospitals....

Salguero's group, NaLEC, has come out against these policy changes, calling them "harmful" and an attack on religious liberty.

The church coalition is supportive of Trump's actions to deport violent criminals, but also has concerns about other immigrants being targeted."

Have they gone to far in this hunt for immigrants, can we not find a better solution to this issue.

Aren't Christians called to obey the law? So how does a "Christian" live in perpetual violation of the law and still call themselves a Christian? I don't see any problem in apprehending illegals where ever they are found.

 

[quietthinker]

Great way to slap yourself in that judgement. Maybe you don't remember all you've said.

Defending serial lawlessness and advocating for human trafficking and invasion is the tactic of the immoral.

You should stop.
You thinking of yourself as righteous as you commit to those evils. And realize with every post against America,the country being offended,you as an Australian, look the fool.

Advocating for the destruction of this country and slandering Christ when invoking scriptures to support your sins, implying Jesus approves, outs who you really are.

Children are being murdered by illegals. Illegals are abusing and killing people and animals too.
Tax paying Americans are losing benefits so that illegals can receive them. And there's more.

What you are doing is defending lawlessness and sins. While condemning law enforcement.
That's not of God.

If this thread gets back on track there is more for Americans to discuss regarding our national security and future. Till then UK utilities appear to be the derail priority.

Go right ahead with your justifications, however they are yours.
If you don't get the point, you don't get it.
Is there any point in filling a cup that is full? I have no interest in thrashing around childish games.

 

[pepper]

Go right ahead with your justifications, however they are yours.
If you don't get the point, you don't get it.
Is there any point in filling a cup that is full? I have no interest in thrashing around childish games.

No interest. And yet that is how you post.

You justify invasion of a foreign country when you don't even live there. You trash America,insist we should concede to bring invaded by cartels,terrorists,and gangs. You condemn enforcing the laws of this country so to stop those illegal activities.

It is you who justify sponsorship of serial criminality. And then you corrupt Scripture by citing passages you claim support your advocation of immorality and criminality.

You hate America. That's clear. While blaspheming God and corrupting His word in your agenda to defend America being invaded by evil is something you will answer for. Every word.

You don't believe that now.
It is enough to know a terrorist sympathizer,a gangland defender,a proponent of human trafficking,will. One day.

 

[quietthinker]

No interest. And yet that is how you post.

You justify invasion of a foreign country when you don't even live there. You trash America,insist we should concede to bring invaded by cartels,terrorists,and gangs. You condemn enforcing the laws of this country so to stop those illegal activities.

It is you who justify sponsorship of serial criminality. And then you corrupt Scripture by citing passages you claim support your advocation of immorality and criminality.

You hate America. That's clear. While blaspheming God and corrupting His word in your agenda to defend America being invaded by evil is something you will answer for. Every word.

You don't believe that now.
It is enough to know a terrorist sympathizer,a gangland defender,a proponent of human trafficking,will. One day.

Your views above as to what I believe are right off track, what more can I say except how do you fill a cup that is full?

 

[Wrangler]

Your views above as to what I believe are

Spot on!

 

[pepper]

Now fake news is trying to stir Americans up.

'They're so afraid': Fake post about ICE raid at Edgecombe Co. schools sparks fear, confusion :: WRAL.com

ICE should make arrests in schools.

Cut off all federal support illegals currently receive. SNAP,WIC, cash,Medicaid,Medicare. And evict them from government funded housing,mortgage homes. Seize the new cars they get at a reduced interest rate.

 

[quietthinker]

Spot on!

Demonising someone who you don't agree with is the practice of folk who feel their own view is threatened. It's a short cut for them to not look at the implications of their own position.

Why do you think the Jews needed to get rid of Jesus? It was because his reality exposed their lies. This was intolerable for them.

 

[pepper]

Google Search

Someone was arrested for impersonating an ICE officer at Temple University.

 

[Wrangler]

Demonising someone

Speaking the truth is not demonizing the murderers, rapists, drug dealers, gang members, Islamic Jihadi’s and child sex traffickers.

 

[pepper]

Speaking the truth is not demonizing the murderers, rapists, drug dealers, gang members, Islamic Jihadi’s and child sex traffickers.

True.

Murderers,rapists,drug dealers,gang members,Islamic Jihadi's and child sex traffickers are demonic.
While defending them having a right to enter America is too.

 

[quietthinker]

True.

Murderers,rapists,drug dealers,gang members,Islamic Jihadi's and child sex traffickers are demonic.
While defending them having a right to enter America is too.

Why don't you guys jump up and down, blow your trumpet and make a big noise about the pornography and the weapons of mass destruction produced and exported from your country to all over the world?
Yes, you want to hang the responsibility of all your woes on refugees who flee their oppressive countries on foot; who walk hundreds of miles with their families and the few possessions they own in the hope of their mistaken view that America will be easier to live in.

Of course there are criminals who use the refugee status as a cover for their dastardly activity, but you guys want to tar every refugee with that label because it takes the focus off your own shortcomings. How pathetic!

Have you lost the ability to discern? Have your hearts become as hard as flint?.....just look at your own homeless problems in all the major cities.

I have been in your country, I have travelled all around it from the North east to the South East, around the gulf country, through the deserts and up the west from Mexico to Canada....yes, I have seen your country and your people and all I can say to you guys and your objections, get out of your 'the greatest country in the world' attitude and open your eyes. Get educated and get an objective perspective.

 

[Wrangler]

Why don't you guys jump up and down, blow your trumpet and make a big noise about the pornography and the weapons of mass destruction produced and exported from your country to all over the world?

Why don't you stick to the subject at hand and show sympathy for Americans killed, raped and kidnapped into child sex trafficking?

 

[quietthinker]

Why don't you stick to the subject at hand and show sympathy for Americans killed, raped and kidnapped into child sex trafficking?

You NEED to hang BLAME on someone else, in this case it's me; you need to distort and demonise..... because if you didn't you couldn't process the responsibility of the raping, the kidnapping, the child sex trafficking by your own people in your own country.

 

[pepper]

Why don't you stick to the subject at hand and show sympathy for Americans killed, raped and kidnapped into child sex trafficking?

Great post.
Empathy,sympathy,has been absent since he started defending evil-doers. You have put in writing what many found impossible to miss.

Well done.

 

[Debp]

You NEED to hang BLAME on someone else, in this case it's me; you need to distort and demonise..... because if you didn't you couldn't process the responsibility of the raping, the kidnapping, the child sex trafficking by your own people in your own country.

So since we have enough criminals in our country, we don't want to admit any more...that makes sense. We want to enforce our borders... nothing wrong with that.

If people want to immigrate here, let them do it legally.

I saw Australia has anti-immigration laws. What do you think about that? Do you complain about that to your neighbors and friends?

 

[NotTheRock]

Why don't you guys jump up and down, blow your trumpet and make a big noise about the pornography and the weapons of mass destruction produced and exported from your country to all over the world?
Yes, you want to hang the responsibility of all your woes on refugees who flee their oppressive countries on foot; who walk hundreds of miles with their families and the few possessions they own in the hope of their mistaken view that America will be easier to live in.

Of course there are criminals who use the refugee status as a cover for their dastardly activity, but you guys want to tar every refugee with that label because it takes the focus off your own shortcomings. How pathetic!

Have you lost the ability to discern? Have your hearts become as hard as flint?.....just look at your own homeless problems in all the major cities.

I have been in your country, I have travelled all around it from the North east to the South East, around the gulf country, through the deserts and up the west from Mexico to Canada....yes, I have seen your country and your people and all I can say to you guys and your objections, get out of your 'the greatest country in the world' attitude and open your eyes. Get educated and get an objective perspective.

You are not aware of the massive corruption being perpetrated by the Democratic Party onto the American people with regard to illegal immigration. Democrats open the borders and encourage foreigners to come because they manage all of the government aid programs that takes care of them and they pocket BILLIONS! Furthermore, they haven't a care in the world for all of the girls that get raped along the way or who die in a Mexican desert. As well, there are no "refugees" as there are no wars or recent natural disasters in the western hemisphere. The people illegally entering the U.S. are looking to improve their standard of living at the expense of poor and middle-class Americans who are forced by government to subsidize them.

No thanks. They need to go home and improve their own communities.

 

[quietthinker]

You are not aware of the massive corruption being perpetrated by the Democratic Party onto the American people with regard to illegal immigration. Democrats open the borders and encourage foreigners to come because they manage all of the government aid programs that takes care of them and they pocket BILLIONS! Furthermore, they haven't a care in the world for all of the girls that get raped along the way or who die in a Mexican desert. As well, there are no "refugees" as there are no wars or recent natural disasters in the western hemisphere. The people illegally entering the U.S. are looking to improve their standard of living at the expense of poor and middle-class Americans who are forced by government to subsidize them.

No thanks. They need to go home and improve their own communities.

Ah yes, if it's not blaming individuals like myself it's blaming something else like other nations or immigrants or it's blaming internal political parties. The reality locked onto is blame, blame, blame. Wake up guys....aren't we those who claim to follow Jesus and not The Accuser?