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If you've read popular books written by the Pre-trib Rapture theory authors like Hal Lindsay and Tim LaHaye, then you're probably familiar with all the chaos and war and famine, and destruction, etc., that they teach the coming "great tribulation" is going to be like.

But did you not know that God's Word instead reveals the future time of "great tribulation" is going to be a time of WORLD PEACE? (that is, for the deceived it will be).

Tim LaHaye wrote a Left-Behind books series, something like 13 books, which were used to make movies with also. And it's all about the sudden disappearance of the Church, while everyone else is left behind, and wondering what happened to those raptured folks!

Did you even know that some airline companies have a policy for their pilots, that if one pilot is a Christian, then the other pilot must not be? That's in case of the rapture while in flight, there will still be someone left-behind to fly the airplane, they think! Crazy! Oh but I'm sure Lindsay and LaHaye loved that idea.

Those of us in Christ Jesus who actually do... listen to Him in HIS Word, don't have to worry about any of those 'scare' tactics pushed by those on man's false pre-trib rapture theory. That because there are no such rapture ideas written of PRIOR to the "great tribulation". Instead Lord Jesus revealed His coming to gather His Church will be AFTER... the "great tribulation", not before it (Matthew 24:29-31; Mark 13:24-27). Apostle Paul taught the same timing of Christ's future coming and His gathering His Church, to be after that "man of sin" of 2 Thessalonians 2 is revealed, with Jesus destroying him with the brightness of His coming.

In our Lord Jesus' Olivet discourse, while He was upon the Mount of Olives with His disciples, He revealed events like nation against nation, war, famines, pestilences, earthquakes, etc., and then He said those things were "the beginning of sorrows" (Matthew 24:6-8). But He did not say those things will be for the time of "great tribulation".

I know, I know, just the phrase "great tribulation" sounds like that time of "the beginning of sorrows" ought to be the "great tribulation", but it is not what defines what the coming "great tribulation" will be like. It will be a time of great tests upon the Church, I'm not denying that.

But Lord Jesus gave us a clue in the following, revealing a tidbit of what 'kind'... of time the "great tribulation" will actually be...

Matt 24:6
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass,
but the end is not yet.
KJV

How many times have you heard pre-trib rapture preaches quote the above verse in blue, but leave out that last phrase in red? What's that phrase in red about?

I can't remember in English grammar what it's called, but that last phrase in red above is the OPPOSITE IDEA of that "wars and rumors of wars". That means ALL... wars will have stopped, and instead it means a time of WORLD PEACE.
 

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Continued...

Dan 8:23-26
23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full,
a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

25
And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
26 And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.
KJV


Lord Jesus' idea then means when we see ALL wars having stopped, and there is world peace, THEN that is the time to be concerned about, for it will be the time of "great tribulation"!

I know, I know, that just ain't what the majority of today's preachers are preaching about the end of this world, and certainly not about the coming "great tribulation". Well, Who are we going to listen to, men, or to God in HIS Word? Each believer must make their own choice who they will listen to. And these are not 'my'... ideas, I am only sharing what Lord Jesus and His Apostles and prophets revealed about the events for the end of this world.

That false king of fierce countenance that is coming at the end, is the beast king of Revelation 17 which the ten kings (ten horns) will give their power to, and will reign with him for "one hour". That "one hour" you should realize what timing that is a symbol for. It means the time of "great tribulation" at the end of this world. It is the "one hour" which the laborers of the field worked at the end of the day, but got the same pay as those who worked all day (that represents Christ's elect who will be tested during the coming "great tribulation", and will give a Witness for Jesus in that final "one hour" of this present world.)


Did you not know that this exactly is the matter that Apostle Paul was preaching in the 1 Thessalonians 5 Chapter about events of the end leading up to the final day, the "day of the Lord"?

1 Thess 5:1-9
1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that
the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

That "times and the seasons" is about the events of the end of this world leading up to Christ's future coming on that "day of the Lord", which is the LAST DAY of this world. In Revelation 16:15, within the 6th Vial timing, Lord Jesus warned us, His faithful Church, that He comes "as a thief". Paul said he had no need to remind the brethren there about those "times and the seasons", because they already knew them, but from what source? How did they already know?


3 For when they shall say, "Peace and safety"; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Those above, "Peace and safety", and "sudden destruction", and "travail upon a woman with child", are phrases first prophesied back in the Old Testament Books of God's prophets, especially in the Book of Isaiah. They are events that are to occur only at the END of this present world. In Isaiah, there is the idea of the end of this present world happening 'at an instant, suddenly', like Paul's "twinkling of an eye" in 1 Corinthians 15 on the "last trump" (7th trumpet).

Who will be those above that will be saying that, "Peace and safety", just prior to the coming of that "sudden destruction" upon them?? That's the DECEIVED, which per Revelation 13:4-8 will include the MAJORITY OF THE WORLD. They will be who will be saying that, "Peace and safety" because they will actually believe the coming FAKE ONE-WORLD PEACE that false king-Messiah of Daniel 8 is going to create when he appears on earth.

1 Thess.5
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
KJV


Like Paul said above, Christ's coming is NOT to overtake us by surprise "as a thief" breaking in. We are supposed to understand and be familiar with those "times and the seasons" of Jesus' future coming to gather us after the tribulation. But for the deceived, God's Wrath will be upon them, because they will instead be FOOLED and think that Christ has already come, when it will be the false-Messiah, the instead of Christ, or in place of Christ.

In Revelation 11 after God's "two witnesses" are killed and their dead bodies left laying in the street, the DECEIVED nations will send gifts to each other, throw parties, because of how those "two witnesses" tormented them. That also confirms the majority of the world during the coming "great tribulation" timing will be FOOLED into thinking it will be a time of "Peace and safety"! And because those of us in Christ Jesus that know it will be a FAKE peace, we are not going to be popular, especially when they want us to bow to that false-Messiah who comes first before Lord Jesus does, and they will deliver some of us up because we will not... bow in false worship to that fake-Christ, just like Daniel and his fellows refused to bow to the golden idol of the king of Babylon (Daniel 3).
 
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If you've read popular books written by the Pre-trib Rapture theory authors like Hal Lindsay and Tim LaHaye, then you're probably familiar with all the chaos and war and famine, and destruction, etc., that they teach the coming "great tribulation" is going to be like.

But did you not know that God's Word instead reveals the future time of "great tribulation" is going to be a time of WORLD PEACE? (that is, for the deceived it will be).

Tim LaHaye wrote a Left-Behind books series, something like 13 books, which were used to make movies with also. And it's all about the sudden disappearance of the Church, while everyone else is left behind, and wondering what happened to those raptured folks!

Did you even know that some airline companies have a policy for their pilots, that if one pilot is a Christian, then the other pilot must not be? That's in case of the rapture while in flight, there will still be someone left-behind to fly the airplane, they think! Crazy! Oh but I'm sure Lindsay and LaHaye loved that idea.

Those of us in Christ Jesus who actually do... listen to Him in HIS Word, don't have to worry about any of those 'scare' tactics pushed by those on man's false pre-trib rapture theory. That because there are no such rapture ideas written of PRIOR to the "great tribulation". Instead Lord Jesus revealed His coming to gather His Church will be AFTER... the "great tribulation", not before it (Matthew 24:29-31; Mark 13:24-27). Apostle Paul taught the same timing of Christ's future coming and His gathering His Church, to be after that "man of sin" of 2 Thessalonians 2 is revealed, with Jesus destroying him with the brightness of His coming.

In our Lord Jesus' Olivet discourse, while He was upon the Mount of Olives with His disciples, He revealed events like nation against nation, war, famines, pestilences, earthquakes, etc., and then He said those things were "the beginning of sorrows" (Matthew 24:6-8). But He did not say those things will be for the time of "great tribulation".

I know, I know, just the phrase "great tribulation" sounds like that time of "the beginning of sorrows" ought to be the "great tribulation", but it is not what defines what the coming "great tribulation" will be like. It will be a time of great tests upon the Church, I'm not denying that.

But Lord Jesus gave us a clue in the following, revealing a tidbit of what 'kind'... of time the "great tribulation" will actually be...

Matt 24:6
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass,
but the end is not yet.
KJV

How many times have you heard pre-trib rapture preaches quote the above verse in blue, but leave out that last phrase in red? What's that phrase in red about?

I can't remember in English grammar what it's called, but that last phrase in red above is the OPPOSITE IDEA of that "wars and rumors of wars". That means ALL... wars will have stopped, and instead it means a time of WORLD PEACE.
You mean Hal Lindsey that had four wives, and they kept getting younger every time he married "Adultery"!

Wikipedia: Hal Lindsey

Hal Lindsey
BornHarold Lee Lindsey
November 23, 1929
Houston, Texas, U.S.
DiedNovember 25, 2024 (aged 95)
Tulsa, Oklahoma, U.S.
Alma materDallas Theological Seminary
Occupation(s)Writer, evangelist
Spouses
  • Rose (first wife, divorced)
  • Jan Houghton (second wife, divorced)
  • Kim (third wife, divorced)
  • JoLyn (fourth wife)
 
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Who will be those above that will be saying that, "Peace and safety", just prior to the coming of that "sudden destruction" upon them?? That's the DECEIVED, which per Revelation 13:4-8 will include the MAJORITY OF THE WORLD. They will be who will be saying that, "Peace and safety" because they will actually believe the coming FAKE ONE-WORLD PEACE that false king-Messiah of Daniel 8 is going to create when he appears on earth.
Work on a seven year timeline of events. You have Revelation 13:4-8 out of place. Those verses are with 42 months left in the seven years, and after the Antichrist has become the beast-king.

The world saying "peace and safety" will be because it will think it has entered the messianic era, as the little horn person is anointed the King of Israel thought-to-be-messiah, becoming the Antichrist.



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According to Daniel ,The saints of God in Israel are persecuted for 3.5 years being placed in prison and killed for their testimony .This persecution begins 3.5 years before the time of great tribulation.

This persecution is found in Daniel 11:33-35
After this testing period where the saints are given into the hand of the beast ,the land of Israel is attacked and overcome by Israels enemies and the king of the north goes forth to annihilate about everything from Iran to Egypt.
This war is found in Daniel 11:40-44.

At the time of this great war and the great tribulation it causes,Daniels people are delivered at that time.And many who are asleep in dust awake at that time.

This great tribulation and deliverance are found in Daniel 12:1-2.





I predict,during this 3.5 year persecution of the saints in Israel, some people on this board will still be claiming they will be raptured before the beast appears even though the beast is paying the king of the north a visit tomorrow.Perhaps they will discuss the king of the north giving the beast a helping hand by sending the false prophet to his aid.
 

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If you've read popular books written by the Pre-trib Rapture theory authors like Hal Lindsay and Tim LaHaye, then you're probably familiar with all the chaos and war and famine, and destruction, etc., that they teach the coming "great tribulation" is going to be like.

But did you not know that God's Word instead reveals the future time of "great tribulation" is going to be a time of WORLD PEACE? (that is, for the deceived it will be).

Tim LaHaye wrote a Left-Behind books series, something like 13 books, which were used to make movies with also. And it's all about the sudden disappearance of the Church, while everyone else is left behind, and wondering what happened to those raptured folks!

Did you even know that some airline companies have a policy for their pilots, that if one pilot is a Christian, then the other pilot must not be? That's in case of the rapture while in flight, there will still be someone left-behind to fly the airplane, they think! Crazy! Oh but I'm sure Lindsay and LaHaye loved that idea.

Those of us in Christ Jesus who actually do... listen to Him in HIS Word, don't have to worry about any of those 'scare' tactics pushed by those on man's false pre-trib rapture theory. That because there are no such rapture ideas written of PRIOR to the "great tribulation". Instead Lord Jesus revealed His coming to gather His Church will be AFTER... the "great tribulation", not before it (Matthew 24:29-31; Mark 13:24-27). Apostle Paul taught the same timing of Christ's future coming and His gathering His Church, to be after that "man of sin" of 2 Thessalonians 2 is revealed, with Jesus destroying him with the brightness of His coming.

In our Lord Jesus' Olivet discourse, while He was upon the Mount of Olives with His disciples, He revealed events like nation against nation, war, famines, pestilences, earthquakes, etc., and then He said those things were "the beginning of sorrows" (Matthew 24:6-8). But He did not say those things will be for the time of "great tribulation".

I know, I know, just the phrase "great tribulation" sounds like that time of "the beginning of sorrows" ought to be the "great tribulation", but it is not what defines what the coming "great tribulation" will be like. It will be a time of great tests upon the Church, I'm not denying that.

But Lord Jesus gave us a clue in the following, revealing a tidbit of what 'kind'... of time the "great tribulation" will actually be...

Matt 24:6
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass,
but the end is not yet.
KJV

How many times have you heard pre-trib rapture preaches quote the above verse in blue, but leave out that last phrase in red? What's that phrase in red about?

I can't remember in English grammar what it's called, but that last phrase in red above is the OPPOSITE IDEA of that "wars and rumors of wars". That means ALL... wars will have stopped, and instead it means a time of WORLD PEACE.
I have asked pre-tribs many times where in scripture we can find a description of all the chaos and destruction that would result from millions of Christians in the world suddenly disappearing and they have no response. Surely, if such a significant event as that was going to happen, we would see the consequences of it described in scripture somewhere. But, it's not there because there will be no pre-trib rapture.
 

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I have asked pre-tribs many times where in scripture we can find a description of all the chaos and destruction that would result from millions of Christians in the world suddenly disappearing and they have no response. Surely, if such a significant event as that was going to happen, we would see the consequences of it described in scripture somewhere. But, it's not there because there will be no pre-trib rapture.
I don't know how the consequences could be described without indicating the exact timing of the rapture.

Thinking back at the time of the flood, during that forty days, nothing was said of people trying to quickly build boats/rafts or get in boats (I am assuming that there were lakes, rivers, at that time) as the waters kept rising. It must have been some wind blowing as well that capsized what ever boats were piled into... not being the size of the ark.
 

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Work on a seven year timeline of events. You have Revelation 13:4-8 out of place. Those verses are with 42 months left in the seven years, and after the Antichrist has become the beast-king.

The world saying "peace and safety" will be because it will think it has entered the messianic era, as the little horn person is anointed the King of Israel thought-to-be-messiah, becoming the Antichrist.

I disagree. I do not have Revelation 13:4-8 out of place. You apparently failed to read all my post.

These events are "great tribulation" timing events, as that is what I pointed to:

Rev 13:4-8
4
And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, "Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?"

That "who is able to make war with him" phrase points to Paul's time of "Peace and safety", and the "end" Lord Jesus pointed to in Matthew 24:6 when all wars have stopped. It will be when that false-Messiah ("dragon") is here and in control of all nations, and thus all the nations armies.

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.


That time of that coming false one blaspheming God and Heaven was first prophesied for the 'end' in the Book of Daniel. That's the time of that false "king of fierce countenance."

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
KJV

Just like how Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon of history, setup a golden idol image of himself, and demanded that all bow in worship to it or be killed, likewise the coming false-Messiah will setup the "image of the beast" described at the end of that Rev.13 chapter, and demand all bow to it, or be killed. So all that Rev.13:4-8 Scripture is for the actual "great tribulation" time, the LATTER 1260 day period of the Daniel 9:27 symbolic "one week".
 

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According to Daniel ,The saints of God in Israel are persecuted for 3.5 years being placed in prison and killed for their testimony .This persecution begins 3.5 years before the time of great tribulation.

That event is actually "great tribulation" timing, the latter 1260 day period which begins when the "abomination of desolation" idol is setup in Jerusalem by the false-Messiah (or "vile person" of that Daniel 11 chapter).
 

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I have asked pre-tribs many times where in scripture we can find a description of all the chaos and destruction that would result from millions of Christians in the world suddenly disappearing and they have no response. Surely, if such a significant event as that was going to happen, we would see the consequences of it described in scripture somewhere. But, it's not there because there will be no pre-trib rapture.

Yes, but like Apostle Paul said in 1 Thess.5 about the deceived, they metaphorically sleep in the night, and are "drunken in the night", and do not watch and thus do not remain spiritually sober.

1 Thess 5:3-7
3 For when they shall say, "Peace and safety"; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6
Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
KJV

I believe that deception upon them is part of what Paul was also explaining in Romans 11 about God having put the spirit of slumber upon many for the end. Many on man's false pre-trib rapture theory actually appear spiritually 'drunken' on that doctrine. And how does one communicate with someone who is drunk?
 
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That event is actually "great tribulation" timing, the latter 1260 day period which begins when the "abomination of desolation" idol is setup in Jerusalem by the false-Messiah (or "vile person" of that Daniel 11 chapter).
The great tribulation does not last 1260 days.
It only took about 40 days for the flood to cleanse the earth.
I believe the great tribulation lasts about 45 days for the kingdom to have been cleansed.
 

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I don't know how the consequences could be described without indicating the exact timing of the rapture.

Thinking back at the time of the flood, during that forty days, nothing was said of people trying to quickly build boats/rafts or get in boats (I am assuming that there were lakes, rivers, at that time) as the waters kept rising. It must have been some wind blowing as well that capsized what ever boats were piled into... not being the size of the ark.
I don't find this to be a convincing defense of the lack of any description of the chaos and destruction that would results from millions of people in the world suddenly disappearing. The reason we can't find any description of that is because the pre-trib rapture theory is a figment of someone's imagination and not taught in scripture.
 
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Yes, but like Apostle Paul said in 1 Thess.5 about the deceived, they metaphorically sleep in the night, and are "drunken in the night", and do not watch and thus do not remain spiritually sober.

1 Thess 5:3-7
3 For when they shall say, "Peace and safety"; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6
Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
KJV

I believe that deception upon them is part of what Paul was also explaining in Romans 11 about God having put the spirit of slumber upon many for the end. Many on man's false pre-trib rapture theory actually appear spiritually 'drunken' on that doctrine. And how does one communicate with someone who is drunk?
Paul was writing about people who are in spiritual darkness and will experience "sudden destruction" by way of God's wrath on the day Jesus returns from which "they shall not escape". I'm not going to put people in that category just because they believe in the wrong end times doctrine. There are plenty of people who believe in pre-trib who are loving Christians that love Jesus and genuinely care about others and help others and so on. I would never lump them in among those in spiritual darkness that Paul wrote about in 1 Thessalonians 5. Like some others on this forum, you are making it as if having the correct end times beliefs is a requirement for salvation and that is wrong.
 
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I disagree. I do not have Revelation 13:4-8 out of place. You apparently failed to read all my post.

These events are "great tribulation" timing events, as that is what I pointed to:
The great tribulation will not be a time of the world saying "peace and safety".
 

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The great tribulation will not be a time of the world saying "peace and safety".
There will never be a time period at all of the world saying "peace and safety". People who believe that 1 Thessalonians 5 has something to do with world peace and safety take that passage completely out of context. The context of people saying "peace and safety" there is in the sense of their own personal spiritual peace and safety. It has to do with people having a false sense of spiritual security and safety when the reality is that they are in spiritual darkness and God is angry with them and His wrath will come down on them when Jesus returns.

1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. 8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

Where is the context of world peace and safety found in this passage? Nowhere. Instead, you see Paul contrasting people who are in spiritual light who are "not in darkness" and are "children of light" with those who are "of the night" and "of darkness" and are considered to be sleeping or drunk in a spiritual sense. Such people who are in spiritual darkness convince themselves that are spiritually at peace and safe from any wrath or consequences and they are oblivious to the fact that God is angry with them and that His wrath will come upon them suddenly and unexpectedly when Jesus comes as a thief in the night. That day will overtake them as a thief but in the case of those who are saved and in spiritual light it will not "overtake you as a thief". We will instead be protected from God's wrath that is not appointed for us and we will be changed to put on immortality and will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air after which we will be with Him for eternity.
 

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There will never be a time period at all of the world saying "peace and safety". People who believe that 1 Thessalonians 5 has something to do with world peace and safety take that passage completely out of context. The context of people saying "peace and safety" there is in the sense of their own personal spiritual peace and safety.
Will there be peace and safety in the world when the prince of peace comes to rule the world, when the nations beat their swords into plowshares and spears into pruning hooks ? During the thousand year millennium following Jesus's return.
Micah 4:3
Micah 4:1-6
 
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Paul was writing about people who are in spiritual darkness and will experience "sudden destruction" by way of God's wrath on the day Jesus returns from which "they shall not escape". I'm not going to put people in that category just because they are believe in the wrong end times doctrine. There are plenty of people who believe in pre-trib who are loving Christians that love Jesus and genuinely care about others and help others and so on. I would never lump them in among those in spiritual darkness that Paul wrote about in 1 Thessalonians 5. Like some others on this forum, you are making it as if having the correct end times beliefs is a requirement for salvation and that is wrong.

I do put even deceived brethren in that category with the wicked, because that idea of God's wrath on the last day of this world is not what most think it will be.

In Revelation 16:15 Jesus showed how it will apply to deceived brethren who get fooled by the false-Messiah that comes first...

Rev 16:15
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
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That is a Message of warning to the Church about the danger of walking naked and in shame, not having those garments (of white). What works at the end would cause that particularly? Bowing to the wrong messiah, the pseudo-Christ that Lord Jesus revealed comes first prior to His coming to gather us after the tribulation.

Rev 3:4
4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with Me in white: for they are worthy.
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Does Lord Jesus mean in the above that all those who do not... walk with Him after His future return will be literally destroyed by God's Wrath on the last day?

No. They simply will not be allowed to approach Christ during His 1,000 years reign that begins at His future return. I'm speaking of brethren that will be deceived by false-Messiah that do love The Father and Lord Jesus. Revelation 22:14-15 reveals where the wicked will also be during Christ's future "thousand years" reign. They will be outside the gates of the beloved city on earth. That will be the "outer darkness" which Lord Jesus spoke of.

Matt 25:29-30
29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
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And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
KJV

That "unprofitable servant" represents a believer on Lord Jesus Christ that refused to serve Him. The lack of garments of white, and walking naked (spiritually) in shame, is what that is about. Those will not be allowed to approach Christ at His table during His future reign on earth, which is revealed in the Ezekiel 44 chapter.


Rev 3:18
18 I counsel thee to buy of Me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
KJV

Matt 7:22-23
22 Many will say to Me in that day, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works?"
23 And then will I profess unto them, "I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity."
KJV

Ezek 13:20-21
20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly,
and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
21 Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver My people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
KJV

Matt 24:48-51
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, "My lord delayeth his coming";
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
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The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
KJV

The deceived brethren that get fooled by the false-Messiah that comes first, thinking he will be Lord Jesus, particularly point to those on man's false pre-trib rapture theory. They will not... be looking for the True Jesus Christ Who will come afterwards to destroy that false-Messiah. And their portion will be with the hypocrites, just like Lord Jesus said in the above, i.e., outside the gates of the beloved city, in the "outer darkness".

I'm amazed at how so many heed ignorant preachers that don't really know their Bible, and cannot reveal this matter which is a warning about the end for the Church that is well written of. I mean, just what do the pre-trib rapture churches teach about the timing of Jesus' warning of Revelation 16:15? They just make the false claim that Jesus wasn't really speaking to His Church, because they say the Church is already raptured by the Revelation 5 chapter. Yet there Lord Jesus is in Rev.16:15, within the 6th Vial timing, warning the Church that He comes "as a thief", and then the next events shown there is the final 7th Vial of God's Wrath poured out into the "air", thus ending this present world. That's yet another revealing that His coming is on the last day of this world, not prior to the tribulation.
 
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Will there be peace and safety in the world when the prince of peace comes to rule the world, when the nations beat their swords into plowshares and spears into pruning hooks ? During the thousand year millennium following Jesus's return.
Micah 4:3
Micah 4:1-6
You didn't address anything I said. Micah 4:1-6 relates to the last days which NT scripture indicates began at the first coming of Christ (Acts 2:16-21) and ends at the second coming of Christ (2 Peter 3:3-4). There will be no thousand year millennium following Jesus's return. He will put an end to sin and death forever when He comes and will fulfill the promise of the new heavens and new earth that we should all be looking forward to in fulfillment of the promise of His second coming (2 Peter 3:13).
 

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I predict,during this 3.5 year persecution of the saints in Israel, some people on this board will still be claiming they will be raptured before the beast appears even though the beast is paying the king of the north a visit tomorrow.Perhaps they will discuss the king of the north giving the beast a helping hand by sending the false prophet to his aid.
I appears you do not know who the beast and false prophet are. You may know who A king of the North is, but not the one spoken of in Daniel 11.