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ICE raid on churches, have they gone too far?
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Debp
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@Ritajanice Information about some raids. Just a few examples.
The violent Tren De Aragua gang from Venezuela...NYC arrests. They have spread across the USA.
People involved with drugs, potential prostitution and gun trafficking.
The violent Tren De Aragua gang from Venezuela...NYC arrests. They have spread across the USA.
People involved with drugs, potential prostitution and gun trafficking.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Do you know, it’s funny that you should say that, as my hairdresser told me the exact same thing..I told him he was wrong, lol...so it is true...please do let me know, many thanks,x
Ritajanice
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quietthinker
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The assumptions are that all illegal immigrants are criminals. At least that is what the language used implies and therefore becomes the premise to justify oppression ....because that's what it basically is.
When the founding Fathers left Europe because of the oppressions experienced (perpetrated by the religious) and arrived in the America's, weren't they also illegal immigrants?
They weren't invited and just took it upon themselves to move in on someone else's territory. Did that make them criminals?.....or was it they became criminals when the local folk tried to 'deport' them? How does this work? or is it more like 'do as I say, not do as I do?
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Debp
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No, Biden didn't have to answer for letting in millions of illegals....that was his administration's policy.
So the American people voted for President Trump. He said he would secure our borders among other things.
Under Biden the illegal migrants were given housing, food, healthcare and in some cases like NYC...they were given $1,000 a month for food and diapers!!! While homeless Americans were living on the streets.
Debp
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Please do watch the videos....they are short ones. It will give you an idea of what's going on here.
Btw, there have been several sex crimes and murders done here recently by illegal migrants. So President Trump signed a new law about those crimes named after one of the murdered girls, the Laken Riley Law.
quietthinker
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Might the kind thing to do, considering all the talk, be, to take in a homeless American and so take a feather out of the cap of a travelling Samaritan?.....or would a convenient excuse be 'a travelling Samaritan's' cap doesn't fit?
But think about it, how many people came to the 'land of the free' with permission of those already here. We need to remember that and set up a mechanism to gain them citizenship or 'legal status' in a fair and equitable way. One way it could be accomplished is to give all those with children born here, a chance to go back to their country of origin and in a expediated process allowed to apply to become citizens. Only those with clean records and sponsor would come under this special procedure and ease back the chaos and cruel treatment that has broken out in our land.
Yes but thats like 'spitting into the wind' or pick up all the sand of the beach, it isnt going to work. Need a comprehensive plan that covers all the bases and problems in a reasonable manner and form and brings order (and law) in the land.
quietthinker
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Interesting that it was the Law the Pharisees appealed to in their indifference to the suffering of others.
Grace is what they found offensive. It was because of their priorities that they found themselves at odds with Jesus.
Bob
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Thank you for your post.
So far, all of the alleged raids into schools, churches, and hospitals have turned out to be false.
But can a wanted criminal alien take indefinite refuge in one of those places? No.
(This is an old trick of the power-hungry at the expense of even their own people. If we declare a building (e.g., mosque, temple, hospital) to be off-limits for forceable entry, that is exactly where one will find terrorists, criminals, explosives, and weapons.)
Blessings.
So far, all of the alleged raids into schools, churches, and hospitals have turned out to be false.
But can a wanted criminal alien take indefinite refuge in one of those places? No.
(This is an old trick of the power-hungry at the expense of even their own people. If we declare a building (e.g., mosque, temple, hospital) to be off-limits for forceable entry, that is exactly where one will find terrorists, criminals, explosives, and weapons.)
Blessings.
Wrangler
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Wrangler
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Cool to compare incomparable things. The days of America's enemies taking advantage of our enemies is over! And one other thing, your post lacks grace for American citizens harmed by the invasion to the south - violent criminals, human sex trafficking, fentanyl and gangs. Some estimates are as high as 80,000 deaths per year.
God loves justice.
quietthinker
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Ah yes, God loves justice, this is true. We strike problems however, when we insist that what we understand as justice is what God understands as justice.
From what I glean, God's justice is liberation/ freedom while mans justice is payback/ revenge. The two understandings are at odds with each other. Which one will we insist on?
Wrangler
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Agh huh. No rationalization justifies losing control of a sovereign border.
Although humans aren’t perfect justice - balance, an eye for an eye - is not too hard to grasp. People trespass. They have to leave. Simple.
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quietthinker
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It is the 'eye for an eye' principle which majors on Law. Law has no ability to motivate except through fear and fear is not a phenomena in the Kingdom of God. Fear controls, it puts people in straight jackets which in turn desires and insists on putting others into straight jackets.
Jesus introduced a higher principle; 'you have heard said, an eye for an eye but I say to you, do not resist an evil man' Matthew 5:39
Can we or are we even willing to hear this?
Why was the law of an 'eye for an eye' even given? it was given as a concession. A concession to what? Somebody knocks out your eye and the response is to kill him. It was to mitigate murder. It was given to a people who had zero understanding of Grace. Grace just didn't compute. Their understanding was programmed by centuries of slavery under Pharoah's whim and whip.
It is evident today that Grace is also not a principle we care to take seriously. We demand payback ....and call it justice.
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Debp
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When might you take in a homeless Australian?
When I was a child, my aunt took in a friend, trying to help her friend. Friend left after awhile... stealing my aunt's diamond engagement ring. Friend disappeared.
Most of the homeless today have severe mental health problems, drug addictions or are criminals. Regular people can't risk taking these people into their homes... that's using common sense.
Los Angeles County where I live has a huge budget for helping the homeless. They even go out on the streets to try to get them help.
Los Angeles failed to spend $500M in homeless funding: Controller
Los Angeles City Controller Kenneth Mejia said he's identified more than $500 million budgeted for homelessness programs that wasn't spent.
www.nbclosangeles.com