Do all here know America is bankrupt?

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Ronald Nolette

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The declared debt of America is now around $36 trillion dollars. However that does not include an extra $2.8 trillion in debt because the government has spent all the trust fund reserves of Social Security and Medicare.

they take all the extra money collected (both now are running annual deficits) and spend it in the general funds. This also did not appear in the annual deficit figures as it was government just shifting money around. There is no cash, but special T notes or IOU's from the fed. Now that these are running deficits annually and are drawing from teh reserves, the government is hiding still that actual annual deficit, because not only must they borrow to cover the "normal" deficit, but must also borrow to cover the taking of the reserves of SS and Medicare to cover current costs.

This is a global problem with all nations and "appears" to be one of the top candidate crises that will help cause th world to start paying attention to the Antichrist when he makes the scene and proposes solutions that keep the world from falling off the edge.
 

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36 TRILLION $$$ in the pockets of politicians and their buddies!
 

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The declared debt of America is now around $36 trillion dollars
The People of the USA have become Debt Slaves ! That is where the Criminal element want you all, so they have made you all their Slaves !
It's the same deal all over the world !

Nations can not aford to look after their own People truly in fact ! and down the track even the village idiot will know we all have been undermined by our Governments ! for their own ends !
One major issue is that the good for nothings are catered for ? like in, as to just be a good for noting lay about dipstick class of people ? What should of happened was that such a People were the intent in regards was always to promote them too better themselves !

Pandering to the lowest denominator is a outright Socialist Game play ! and the cause of all or the Race card flag waving childish Me me !

Then again with the wealthy Class they play the same games, so as to undermine all around them ? Oh they can play the Trendy Games as well, just to save face ?
So what happens is that the Middle Class, who is the backbone of the Nation ! is undermined ! and the lower of the low Class are demanding free everything ? not to mention their is the lower Class who work and only get kicked around !

But who hid all this reality from the Nations People and why ?

Like Look down the track you will all pay for such that you will reap what was Sown ! that's a fact !

But is or was it all Pland that way, but by who ? Socialist ends ! They always work so as to undermine the Nation but play games making them selves look like the good guy ? who is helping out !

We had a PM in Australia, who came out saying before becoming the PM, Hi I am Kevin 07 I am here to Help ! I am going to be X,Y and Z ? but when in power that spin, all went out the window ! and he became a total moron ! and Their true Socialist agenda was only in full swing !

The ends are all about total domination over the People, in What you can say or not in fact, So they can totaly control the people ! for they are Criminals in fact ! Satanist in fact ! Typical of Nazi and Communist foundations in fact ! it's typical games that they use ! that's their foundations in fact ! Criminals with no Grace, for they are an abomination in fact ! Anti-Christ !
They work so as only to use people for their own agendas.

If one was to work for your self, such a one has to have a handle on realitys ! or you will not survive in fact, so you have to high tail it 24/7 noting just comes your way as a gift !
Money just does no fall into your lap, you have to work for every cent ! and pay the bills in fact. Tax ! insurance and get riped off 24/7 !
So you have to get smart and understand truly what is truly going on and were you stand or you will fail !
It's all about understanding reality ! because as soon as BS walkes into your life, you must not tolerate such at all and call it out directly ! and as to who's feelings you may hurt in exposing the Truth or Reality, so be it ! Or you are just a Fool !

That's why we totaly need D,J,Trump ! He can see through all of the pathetic childish stupid load of BS and put the USA back on track ! not to mention the whole world as well !
 
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Yes. Americans were made aware some time ago. Now,we're printing money that's worthless.
 

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As long as the FED can print money devaluing the dollar and people buy our debt like US bonds, and businesses continue, and tax is collected, the country continues to function regardless of debt level.

Trump wants the debt ceiling removed, as every year when bumping into it, a shutdown risk exists.
 

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Government spending too much money creates debt.
If Government severely curtails spending, likely a recession or depression will happen as too many people get free money and they do buy things in the economy, and that would also stop. And then all those people getting free or reduced housing costs would be out on the streets. We have a permanent poverty class permanently sucking off the teat of the US government, and politicians like that as they always vote for the ones who give them the free stuff.

It seems like to me, if you break the system, bad things will happen. What solves that is people pass on, as in die. If more of the suckers die the problem is reduced. There is this tension between life expectancy and government spending, the quicker you die off after working, the less money it costs the government, means government prefers old people to die sooner. I am just speaking from an economic POV. Jesus said the poor will always be with you.


Mark 14:7
For you have the poor with you always, and whenever you wish you may do them good; but Me you do not have always.
 

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This is what happens as debt piles up, dollars become worthless

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The owners of the FR have gotten extremely rich printing billions (face value) for government at minimal cost to the printers, and charging the government(the people) face value plus interest. It's the biggest scam in history. Two previous presidents were assassinated trying to stop this scam by promising that the government print its own money. The latest was Kennedy. Trump could make such a change of course, but i don't believe he will. He's too close to those fed owners, he doesn't have the courage to face the consequences, but most of all, he was educated at one of their own universities, so is indoctrinated in the same ethic, recognises no evil in them, and has stated publicly his appreciation and admiration for their leader. So long as the fed. continues to scam the American people, the American nation is doomed.
 

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Still believe that China should be put on trial and forced to dismiss the entire debt of the world. Simply write it off and penalize whatever can be taken from China. Of course, Japan has the biggest amount of our debt ......
 

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Are we talking spiritually or monetarily bankrupt or both?
 

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Spiritually, monetarily and morally. This country was built on the forbidden practice of usury, as are most church buildings.

I agree with all of the above typically but I felt pause on the usury part because of a ocuple of places

Deut 23: 20 Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury

And Jesus uses it but it appears more like interest

Luke 19:23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?

Can it be justified?
 
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Verily

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On the second scripture.
The mention of usury in a parable should not be taken as an endorsement.
This is Hermeneutics 101

Back to Deuteronomy.
The law also tells us that we should not commit adultery, Christ raised the standard for adultery considerably in His teaching. The same as for murder. And as seen n His dealings with the rich young ruler, covetousness as well.

We are taught elsewhere in scripture not to have respect for persons. As God sends His rain upon the just and the unjust etc. If usury is forbidden within the household of believers, then applying Christ's elevated standards of Godly behavior, we can easily surmise that the practice should be universally forbidden. The evil fruit of this wicked practice, should put an end to all controversy, but of course, that is unlikely to be the case, particularly in this forum.
Werent the original laws in Deut written to the Jews though? And they make up alot of the Federal Reserve dont they? And so usury to them would exclude us who believe in Christ in this situation which is likely why its utilized dont you think?
 

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Jews and Usury Beliefs​

Jewish law has specific rules regarding usury, which is the practice of charging interest on loans. According to Jewish law, Jews are forbidden to charge interest when lending to fellow Jews, but they are allowed to charge interest when lending to non-Jews. This distinction is based on biblical passages such as Exodus 22:24, Leviticus 25:36, and Deuteronomy 23:19-20, which prohibit Jews from charging interest to other Jews but permit it in dealings with non-Jews.
 

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Our debt-based fiat system was deigned to benefit a tiny minority: the elites. It was not designed to benefit us or our country.
They just took the Nazi system over and used that, it's a great system ? well you can play around with such a lot to make things better for everyone, it can help out the lower Class and who ever one wants to play the Game the way that they want ? it's more fluid ?
So one can better stop crashes from happening ! but in the Mix if criminal intent or foolishness, sure that is a Cancer !

The way that such has progressed is it has created a monster of debt ! and they who truly control this system can crash it at any time that they want to, it's like flicking on or off a light switch ! Crash the system as one pleases one could say, is easy done !

I seen Austrtalia played a Game with the Recession that we had to have ? that's what they called it in fact ! floated out Dollar, of that in its self is one thing, but on the other hand the way that they did it all was very under handed and so as to try and destroy many buisness people, they mad them borrow money with an artifical boom, then go and pull the rug out from them all ! So as to help Asia out into our markets ! we were fighting to keep out such markets and had to borrow big money for the Tax reasons as well, in how it was all set up against Businesses. we could not borrow from our own Banks but outside of our own ! and then bingo our nations Dollar was worth like half it's value and your paying back double now on what you took out !
It only cost my uncle 12 million dollars, that's what he lost from that Game ! That the Socialist Government said that we will have a soft landing ! but business crashed everywhere it was a shocker !

They creat all such things all of the time, the last was the great COVID scam ! and that never hurt anyone :rolleyes: if you were to look for the media for the real issue, it's all been hidden from view ? just how bad it truly is for people in business. so many just have not come back and how many are only scrapping by ? It looks bad times are coming ahead because of it all.
What did that truly cost the Tax payers is another nothing to be seen here, not a problem at all ? they do not expose and look at such things ! As to State debt nowadays when Voting, it's not even an issue ? That Monster just became to big ! we can not pay that back and people who vote for the Left could not give are rats about such issues at all ! all that they are about is ripping off the system ! and acting like Nazis to anyone who calles them out on such issues ! they are all about the trivia, period ! They think they are going somewhere ! it's all me and my is all on the up, you all !

Stupid is as stupid does. I think they are on Ice, Crack or what ever ! I think them rave Party's drug seriouly smashed peoples brains so they can not see past their own nose !
It's something Like Percy Jackson, do not eat the lotus flower Percy ! they get stuck trapped in their stupor !
 
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Verily

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Is there a difference between interest and usury in the scripture? The word used in the parable in the KJV is usury correct (but its supposedly, in the Greek to mean interest) but would'nt Jesus be using the same word according to the same lawful practice of usury (when it come to a stranger verses a brother) as is mentioned in Deut 23:20 or no?