What Jesus do you believe on ?

[brightfame52]

Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Rom 3:26

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

2 Cor 11:4

4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Theres a popular jesus these days being preached and believed on, and not the Jesus of the scripture to whom it is emphatically declared, Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Now in lieu of this stated Jesus theres the jesus of what is called today arminianism, and heres what taught regarding this false jesus:

The ‘jesus’ of Arminianism is the most popular and adored of all the counterfeit christs. This jesus is another false messiah who died, not for God’s chosen people, but for every individual ever born. His death was not to secure the salvation of anyone, but was to make salvation potential for everyone, dependent upon their free will choice of Him. This jesus is not the effectual Savior of His people, but the potential Savior of every person, thus making man’s free-will decision for God that which will ultimately decide his eternal destiny. According to Arminianism it is not Christ and His Work that makes the difference between saved and lost, but a free-will act of man. The jesus of Arminianism achieved nothing on the cross for any for whom he died unless they accept what he has done, thereby making it a valid and effectual act. The jesus of Arminianism is a false jesus and no Savior at all.

Fundamental Issues Of Salvation (Part 2) | godsonlygospel​

www.godsonlygospel.com

Friends, if you believe in this jesus, i must admonish you, this is not the Jesus of Matt 1:21 or Rom 3:26, neither 2 Cor 11:4

 

[IronMaiden]

2 Corinthians 11:4 (NKJV) For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or [if] you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted--you may well put up with it!

In 2 Corinthians 11:4, Paul advises Christians to be cautious when hearing new ideas or doctrines from false preachers, as these “antichrists” will not keep things in context; they will twist scripture, etc. It is crucial to understand that the Holy Spirit will never contradict the Word of God. These “antichrists”manipulate the Word of God into lies.

So to avoid being deceived, we must immerse ourselves in God's Word daily—study. The gospel is the GOOD NEWS of Christ, and if a preacher‘s teachings contradict it, it is a lie. Do not “put up with it.” Do not be deceived.

 

[Cyd]

Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Rom 3:26

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

2 Cor 11:4

4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Theres a popular jesus these days being preached and believed on, and not the Jesus of the scripture to whom it is emphatically declared, Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Now in lieu of this stated Jesus theres the jesus of what is called today arminianism, and heres what taught regarding this false jesus:

Fundamental Issues Of Salvation (Part 2) | godsonlygospel​

www.godsonlygospel.com

Friends, if you believe in this jesus, i must admonish you, this is not the Jesus of Matt 1:21 or Rom 3:26, neither 2 Cor 11:4

I think you might need to do a bible study on the word "whosoever" that means anyone not just Israel. Christ used the word himself 64 times in the gospels. The one verse among many people know is John 3:16 but there are many others. God is the same the same applied to "strangers" and "sojourners" in the OT.

 

[Bob Estey]

Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Rom 3:26

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

2 Cor 11:4

4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Theres a popular jesus these days being preached and believed on, and not the Jesus of the scripture to whom it is emphatically declared, Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Now in lieu of this stated Jesus theres the jesus of what is called today arminianism, and heres what taught regarding this false jesus:

Fundamental Issues Of Salvation (Part 2) | godsonlygospel​

www.godsonlygospel.com

Friends, if you believe in this jesus, i must admonish you, this is not the Jesus of Matt 1:21 or Rom 3:26, neither 2 Cor 11:4

I believe in the Jesus born to the Virgin Mary.

 

[brightfame52]

I think you might need to do a bible study on the word "whosoever" that means anyone not just Israel. Christ used the word himself 64 times in the gospels. The one verse among many people know is John 3:16 but there are many others. God is the same the same applied to "strangers" and "sojourners" in the OT.

Hi there, you would be wise to read and think on the article points.

 

[brightfame52]

I believe in the Jesus born to the Virgin Mary.

What do you believe about Him ? Read the article and post carefully, you may find out that you really dont believe in Jesus born to the virgin mary.

 

[Bob Estey]

What do you believe about Him ? Read the article and post carefully, you may find out that you really dont believe in Jesus born to the virgin mary.

I believe Jesus is God in flesh. That is to say, God decided to come to earth as a human being.

 

[talons]

Hi there, you would be wise to read and think on the article points.

From the website you linked .

"What must I do to be saved? Simply “…believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved…” (Acts 16:31). Believe on Jesus as He is revealed in the true and only Gospel of God, and you have eternal life. Believe in the true Jesus whom God bears record of in His mighty Gospel, and no other. “…he that believeth not God hath made Him a liar; because he believeth not the record, that God gave of His Son….He that hath the Son hath Life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not Life” (1 John 5:10,12). Believe not in a false jesus of a gospel which conditions salvation on what you do rather than SOLELY on what Christ has done. Acknowledge, believe and trust only in what God has done, by grace, to save His people from their sins, and you will see that you are one of those people. Believing does not get anyone saved, for it is the evidence that God has saved you. To rightly believe God’s Gospel is to repent of, and reject all others as having any merit to save anyone from their sins."


According to this there is no reason to believe because that does not get you saved . Double -minded , double talk .

Answer me one question , can one be saved without believing since believing does not get you saved ?

 

[brightfame52]

I believe Jesus is God in flesh. That is to say, God decided to come to earth as a human being.

Plenty of cults believe that. Why did God become flesh ? What did He actually accomplish by doing that? And for exactly who ? Did it benefit anyone, and if so, how !

 

[brightfame52]

From the website you linked .

"What must I do to be saved? Simply “…believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved…” (Acts 16:31). Believe on Jesus as He is revealed in the true and only Gospel of God, and you have eternal life. Believe in the true Jesus whom God bears record of in His mighty Gospel, and no other. “…he that believeth not God hath made Him a liar; because he believeth not the record, that God gave of His Son….He that hath the Son hath Life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not Life” (1 John 5:10,12). Believe not in a false jesus of a gospel which conditions salvation on what you do rather than SOLELY on what Christ has done. Acknowledge, believe and trust only in what God has done, by grace, to save His people from their sins, and you will see that you are one of those people. Believing does not get anyone saved, for it is the evidence that God has saved you. To rightly believe God’s Gospel is to repent of, and reject all others as having any merit to save anyone from their sins."


According to this there is no reason to believe because that does not get you saved . Double -minded , double talk .

Answer me one question , can one be saved without believing since believing does not get you saved ?

A person believes because Jesus saved them, you seem to think that the act of believing saved you. You seem to be saying your act of believing is your saviour, thats why you should read the article and try to understand.

 

[Bob Estey]

Plenty of cults believe that. Why did God become flesh ? What did He actually accomplish by doing that? And for exactly who ? Did it benefit anyone, and if so, how !

I am not as wise as the Lord, so I can't claim to fully understood why he would have come to earth as Jesus. It seems to me one reason was to discredit Satan by living a sinless life and then allowing Satan to have him crucified. Put another way, he saved us from our sin. While on earth, Jesus also preached the gospel and had his words written down so that we can all learn to live a life of peace and safety.

We can all live lives of peace and safety if we do as Jesus taught.

 

[brightfame52]

@Bob Estey

I am not as wise as the Lord, so I can't claim to fully understood why he would have come to earth as Jesus.

Friend, then you dont know the Gospel

 

[Bob Estey]

@Bob Estey



Friend, then you dont know the Gospel

I don't think you are as wise as the Lord, either. Does that mean neither of us knows the gospel?

 

[marks]

Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Rom 3:26

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

2 Cor 11:4

4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Theres a popular jesus these days being preached and believed on, and not the Jesus of the scripture to whom it is emphatically declared, Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Now in lieu of this stated Jesus theres the jesus of what is called today arminianism, and heres what taught regarding this false jesus:

Fundamental Issues Of Salvation (Part 2) | godsonlygospel​

www.godsonlygospel.com

Friends, if you believe in this jesus, i must admonish you, this is not the Jesus of Matt 1:21 or Rom 3:26, neither 2 Cor 11:4

Given that God, in the Bible, offers salvation to all men, and commands all to believe, I'll go with that, thank you very much!

Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

"His people", if you are interested in context, is speaking of Israel.

The thing of it is, God is True. Jesus said I am the truth. I accept that as is. I just believe it. And so when God offers salvation to all, and commands, and urges, all to believe, and receive the reconciliation, I just believe Him for what He says.

Much love!

 

[brightfame52]

I don't think you are as wise as the Lord, either. Does that mean neither of us knows the gospel?

Dont have to be wise as the Lord to believe the Gospel. Obviously you dont consider yourself a Gospel believer if you dont know what you believed as the Gospel

 

[brightfame52]

Given that God, in the Bible, offers salvation to all men, and commands all to believe, I'll go with that, thank you very much!


"His people", if you are interested in context, is speaking of Israel.

The thing of it is, God is True. Jesus said I am the truth. I accept that as is. I just believe it. And so when God offers salvation to all, and commands, and urges, all to believe, and receive the reconciliation, I just believe Him for what He says.

Much love!

False teaching

 

[Bob Estey]

Dont have to be wise as the Lord to believe the Gospel. Obviously you dont consider yourself a Gospel believer if you dont know what you believed as the Gospel

But I do know what I believe: God decided to come down to earth as Jesus.

There are those who believe Jesus was the Son of God.

In either case, Jesus preached and had his words written down so we could learn how to have peace and safety. He then allowed himself to be nailed to a cross to save us from our sins.

I think these two groups can coexist.

 

[Marvelloustime]

We must believe in the biblical Lord Jesus. Not some other Jesus. Keep reading our bibles. We need to know God’s Word and stay in prayers. There is only one way to be saved and that is by believing in the biblical Lord Jesus. For further info, read the posts of brother @amigo de christo. Most critically stay reading your Bible for yourselves and not through the lens of other men.

 

[marks]

False teaching

No its not.

Much love!

 

[talons]

A person believes because Jesus saved them, you seem to think that the act of believing saved you. You seem to be saying your act of believing is your saviour, thats why you should read the article and try to understand.

You seem to be implying you would have knowledge of my salvation status and just who my savior is .

Actually Jesus is my savior because I believed on Him .

Acts 16:31 Context​

28But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here. 29Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, 30And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. 32And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. 33And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway. 34And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.

You seem to be saying your act of believing is your saviour

Do you have this problem often ?