Critical thinking and education is linked to loss of faith
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It sounds like it. I am tired of this board. Others don't seem to listen, and they don't like being contradicted politely.
David in NJ
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JESUS warned us of this VOID in the heart and cranium
Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.
And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:
‘Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive;
For the hearts of this people have grown dull.
Their ears are hard of hearing,
And their eyes they have closed,
Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears,
Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
So that I should heal them.’
Instead of complaining like the montheistic atheists, why don't you REVIEW post 403
For in it is the WAY to Eternal LIFE as revealed in the Gospel
David in NJ
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Which Elohim does Genesis, Exodus, the OT prophets, the Gospel, the Apostles and Revelation DECLARE
Here is a Guaranteed TRUTH: Isaiah 40 verse 3
A voice of one calling:
“Prepare the way for the YHWH in the wilderness;
make a straight highway for our Elohenu(Plural) in the desert.
Every valley shall be lifted up,
and every mountain and hill made low;
the uneven ground will become smooth,
and the rugged land a plain.
And the glory of the YHWH will be revealed,
and all humanity together will see it.”
David in NJ
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David in NJ
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I’ve been doing this since the mid-90’s. It’s the nature of discussion boards.
When I was still teaching I required my students (most of whom were preparing to become pastors) to participate on discussion boards one hour per week and keep a journal of their activities. They hated the assignment and nearly unanimously referred to the people whom they interacted with on them as gutter fighters.
Everyone, myself included, needs to take breaks from them. It sounds to me like this would be a good time for you to take a break, long or short. It will do you good.
David in NJ
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If you’re going to repeat yourself, repeat that you aren’t a trinitarian and that elohim is plural - which everyone should know is always rendered in English as “gods”.
David in NJ
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JESUS sends out many = He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.”
Jesus is a Jewish monotheist. This is a classic expression of the Jewish law of agency.
The one who sent the Messiah and put his words in the Messiah’s mouth to speak is his God and Father / my God and Father, Yahweh.
Elohim is a Hebrew word which is always plural in form but either singular or plural in meaning, depending upon the context.
That’s incorrect.
“Elohim is a Hebrew word that is generally used to refer to God in the Old Testament. It is a plural noun, but when referring to the God of Israel, it takes on a singular meaning.”
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But sometimes it is supposed to be plural, and somehow the LXX seems to reveal this.
It’s seldom plural in the Old Testament. Overwhelmingly, and always when used in reference to the God of Israel, it is singular.
The LXX is helpful in confirming that elohim is singular. The Greek word theos is the equivalent of the Hebrew word elohim when the Hebrew word is singular in meaning. The Greek word theoi is the equivalent of the Hebrew word elohim when the word is plural in meaning.
Yahweh is the elohim / theos of Israel.
Yahweh is not the elohim / theoi of Israel.
@David in NJ has no grammatical legs to stand on. Even when he‘s posted Lexical information it always confirms this very simple grammatical point. He’s looking right at it, he’s posting it for me to look at, and he can’t see it.
The final straw that breaks his argument are the English translations of the Old Testament. When elohim is singular in meaning it is rendered singular in English and when elohim is plural in meaning it is rendered plural in English.
“While the word elohim is plural in form, its meaning can be either plural or singular. Most often (over 2,000 times) in the Hebrew Bible it is singular, referring to the God of Israel.”
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But El and Elin seem to be the Aramaic syntax equivalent. The NT uses Hebrew Aramaic grammar rather than the later Rabbinical.
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