Biblical Repentance

[Simonides]

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[amigo de christo]

The bible is a book. I understand it is a very important book. I understand that it contains the Holy words of God.

But I also understand how we came to have the bible in our possession.

Before you get all crazy and start attacking me for my comment, please take a deep breath, go do a little of your own research and then get back to me.

I do not worship the Bible.

I worship my Father Yahweh

And His Son Jesus Christ

The bible came into our possession as did the WRITTEN TORAH to the jews .
IN other words , GOD INSPIRED TRUTH . men spoke it and wrote it down for men to learn .
NOT too hard to grasp . What part of that bible , or What JESUS or paul or james , jude or peter
wrote that you do not personally like . Cause , so far , so far
everyone who always comes to try and plant that idea you planted , ALWAYS
has been found to support some sins . DO you support intefaith perhaps
DO you support the judge not correct not victim card .
Soon enough it will surface . NOW dont think i condemn you . I DONT .
But my advice is , STOP Listening to men who for POWER AND CONTROL
make the bible either seem UNRELIABLE or THAT ONE cannot learn it LEST THEY SIT UNDER their scholars and church pastors .
Cause i got bad news . THEY LYING TO YOU ALL . this is how LIES can come in
and when a lie comes in and the bible contradicts it , ALL THEY WHO TEACH THE LIE have to say is
HEY , come sit under our teaching and let us explain to you WHY this lie we bring is truth and how either the bible
was in error OR perhaps You need our greek . YEAH , I DONT SIT UNDER SUCH and niether should you .

 

[Johann]

The bible came into our possession as did the WRITTEN TORAH to the jews .
IN other words , GOD INSPIRED TRUTH . men spoke it and wrote it down for men to learn .
NOT too hard to grasp . What part of that bible , or What JESUS or paul or james , jude or peter
wrote that you do not personally like . Cause , so far , so far
everyone who always comes to try and plant that idea you planted , ALWAYS
has been found to support some sins . DO you support intefaith perhaps
DO you support the judge not correct not victim card .
Soon enough it will surface . NOW dont think i condemn you . I DONT .
But my advice is , STOP Listening to men who for POWER AND CONTROL
make the bible either seem UNRELIABLE or THAT ONE cannot learn it LEST THEY SIT UNDER their scholars and church pastors .
Cause i got bad news . THEY LYING TO YOU ALL . this is how LIES can come in
and when a lie comes in and the bible contradicts it , ALL THEY WHO TEACH THE LIE have to say is
HEY , come sit under our teaching and let us explain to you WHY this lie we bring is truth and how either the bible
was in error OR perhaps You need our greek . YEAH , I DONT SIT UNDER SUCH and niether should you .

Why don't you calm down brother-and there's nothing wrong with basic knowledge of Hebrew and Koine Greek.

J.

 

[amigo de christo]

The bible is a book. I understand it is a very important book. I understand that it contains the Holy words of God.

But I also understand how we came to have the bible in our possession.

Before you get all crazy and start attacking me for my comment, please take a deep breath, go do a little of your own research and then get back to me.

I do not worship the Bible.

I worship my Father Yahweh

And His Son Jesus Christ

again this is not to accuse you but rather to let you know
The last three lines you brought , MANY have brought very similiar sayings .
And you know what they all had in common , THE VERSION OF JESUS , THEIR VERSION OF THE FATHER
SURE contradicts the BIBLICAL ONE .
You do realize that people can follow another jesus , another god , believing it to be THE GOD , HIS CHRIST
and yet , wow they sure seem to embrace another version , image , and that
there version and image of theirs , SURE CONTRADICTS more and more of the WORDS OF GOD
in that there bible that was left for us to read and to learn . You do realize what that means right .
IT means they been deceived and have loved to follow a version , an image of What they DESIRED TO BELEIVE
was GOD , was CHRIST .
Satan sure loves the worship of man and man he sure knows how to feed the lusts of the flesh of man
To keep him in bondage and decieved .

 

[Simonides]

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[amigo de christo]

Why don't you calm down brother-and there's nothing wrong with basic knowledge of Hebrew and Koine Greek.

J.

I never said there was . my attack is not against greek or hebrew .
Its against those who try and act , NOT SAYING YOU DO , that unless one learns the
hebrew or greek , WELL they cant really learn the bible . NOT TRUE .
not even close to true . That is more a means for power and control and to decieve .
BUT i never seen you ever say that . SO i aint talking about you .
When men try and act like the bible is either unrealible , or that one cannot learn it UNLESS they sit under them
and or their so called greek scholars , BOY do i have a bone to pick with that person .
cause that is all about power and control in order to get them to TRUST IN THEM
and so very many of them who have done that , ARE TWISTING things themselves . AGAIN not saying YOU .

 

[amigo de christo]

There's a lot of anger and harsh accusation in your comment. I will not attempt to attempt to justify it with a response.

I liked this thread a lot better when you were on ignore.

So back on ignore you go.

Well that was quick . Perhaps i should tone down my warings and etc . NOT . I might actually have to increase them .
cause folks are in trouble as they all headed right into a snare and that snare
they think is love and of GOD , IT AINT , and it will lead them to the LIE .

 

[Johann]

I never said there was . my attack is not against greek or hebrew .
Its against those who try and act , NOT SAYING YOU DO , that unless one learns the
hebrew or greek , WELL they cant really learn the bible . NOT TRUE .
not even close to true . That is more a means for power and control and to decieve .
BUT i never seen you ever say that . SO i aint talking about you .
When men try and act like the bible is either unrealible , or that one cannot learn it UNLESS they sit under them
and or their so called greek scholars , BOY do i have a bone to pick with that person .
cause that is all about power and control in order to get them to TRUST IN THEM
and so very many of them who have done that , ARE TWISTING things themselves . AGAIN not saying YOU .

You sound very angry and @Simonides have you on ignore.

Late here in South Africa.

02.01 AM

Signing off.

J.

 

[amigo de christo]

You sound very angry and @Simonides have you on ignore.

Late here in South Africa.

02.01 AM

Signing off.

J.

I suppose what people dont realize is , when they put me on ignore
they dont see what i write but i can see and keep correcting what they might bring .
People often accuse one of being or seeming angry and hateful .
Yet i would just love it if for once rather than them saying How they BELEIVE i feel
just rather show me the error in what i wrote .
maybe our dear friend can go back and reread what i left him
and rather than just saying YOU SEEM
show me the error in my doctrine . That should be real easy to do if one is in error .

 

[MonoBiblical]

again this is not to accuse you but rather to let you know
The last three lines you brought , MANY have brought very similiar sayings .
And you know what they all had in common , THE VERSION OF JESUS , THEIR VERSION OF THE FATHER
SURE contradicts the BIBLICAL ONE .
You do realize that people can follow another jesus , another god , believing it to be THE GOD , HIS CHRIST
and yet , wow they sure seem to embrace another version , image , and that
there version and image of theirs , SURE CONTRADICTS more and more of the WORDS OF GOD
in that there bible that was left for us to read and to learn . You do realize what that means right .
IT means they been deceived and have loved to follow a version , an image of What they DESIRED TO BELEIVE
was GOD , was CHRIST .
Satan sure loves the worship of man and man he sure knows how to feed the lusts of the flesh of man
To keep him in bondage and decieved .

Samaritans worshipped what they didn't understand. Does the NT condemn for making idols of YHWH?

 

[Johann]

I suppose what people dont realize is , when they put me on ignore
they dont see what i write but i can see and keep correcting what they might bring .
People often accuse one of being or seeming angry and hateful .
Yet i would just love it if for once rather than them saying How they BELEIVE i feel
just rather show me the error in what i wrote .
maybe our dear friend can go back and reread what i left him
and rather than just saying YOU SEEM
show me the error in my doctrine . That should be real easy to do if one is in error .

Matthew 7:1-5
"Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me remove the speck from your eye"; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

Galatians 6:1
Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted.

John 7:24
Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."

James 3:14-18
But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth. This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic. For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Matthew 5:5
Blessed are the meek, For they shall inherit the earth.



Related Scriptures

Ephesians 4:2
with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love,

James 2:13
For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.

Matthew 18:21-35
Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven. Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made. The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, 'Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.' Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt. "But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, 'Pay me what you owe!' So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, 'Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.' And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt. So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done. Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, 'You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?' And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him. "So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses."

Luke 6:37
'Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

James 3:13
Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom.

J.

 

[amigo de christo]

Samaritans worshipped what they didn't understand. Does the NT condemn for making idols of YHWH?

GOD sure did and JUST cause JESUS didnt say a man cant marry a cow , DOES that mean now a man can marry a cow .
Sure it might not have been mentioned
but then if we actually examine well , ALL that is written in the new testament
YOU BET idol worship IS CONDEMNED . so thanks for the topic .
Good talking to you . See how easy it is . THE GOD who established the OLD covenant
IS NOT different than the SAME GOD who established the new covenant . ONLY the convenant changed
A new and living way . A love FROM GOD shed upon the hearts of the beleivers IN HIS CHRIST
who by HIS VERSION of love dont trangress but rather FULLFILL the righteousness of the law .
LOOKING not the law to save them , for none can be justified by the LAW
LOOKING UNTO ONLY CHRIST JESUS , UNTO GOD and hating even the evils of their own flesh and loving
the Word and words of GOD . Man that is so lovely it encourged me to just have received it and to have typed it .

 

[MatthewG]

people who love the god of the mirror often gather by troops under men who preach TRUTH
and wont warn against sin , error and even NOW UNBELEIF . something has went wrong .
Satan has and his men and his peoples have , been woking or working from within
to remove TRUTH and make true doctrine seem as though its in the way
and he preaches a love that all peoples of humanity can agree upon and find common ground with .
MANY thereby which have entered into THE VERY BROAD and ever growing path , BELEIVING ITS LOVE and of GOD .
WHEN ITS OF SATAN . so out of love i must warn us all
HAVE NO PART or lott in this all inclusive sin accepting , interfaith LIE .
REMEMBER WHEN GOD SPOKE abraham beleived . YET when JESUS SPEAKS , MANY dont seem to beleive
HIS WORDS . DO TRY and REMEMBER that IF JESUS said it , IT DID COME OF GOD .
SO as children let us simply BELEIVE .
MANY claim to believe IN JESUS but sure dont seem to BELEIVE HIS WORDS . THAT IS A BAD BAD SIGN
they follow another jesus .

Don't know man.

 

[amigo de christo]

Matthew 7:1-5
"Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me remove the speck from your eye"; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

Galatians 6:1
Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted.

John 7:24
Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."

James 3:14-18
But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth. This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic. For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Matthew 5:5
Blessed are the meek, For they shall inherit the earth.



Related Scriptures

Ephesians 4:2
with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love,

James 2:13
For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.

Matthew 18:21-35
Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven. Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made. The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, 'Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.' Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt. "But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, 'Pay me what you owe!' So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, 'Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.' And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt. So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done. Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, 'You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?' And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him. "So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses."

Luke 6:37
'Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

James 3:13
Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom.

J.

johann if i had even a dime for every time i heard the judge not card ,
Friend i could have provided for many peoples in this world . When are we gonna realize
that the judge not correct not card dont work and is the very reason why leaven has gained so much ground in the churches .
But do feel free to explain HOW i judged you or anyone else . ALL i wrote , JUDGE THAT .
JUDGE what i wrote and expose the error in the doctrine . I will do the same .

 

[MonoBiblical]

GOD sure did

Scripture please, if you want anyone to take you seriously on trinity idols?

 

[amigo de christo]

many have learned the wrong version of judge not . it has and will continue to only silence the truth that corrects the error .
SO what does it mean to judge .
IF speaking gravely , rebuking gravely
calling men adulterers and adulteresses
IS judging . BOY HOWDY i am sore afraid that would have made ALL THE APOSTELS IN TOTAL ERROR .

 

[MatthewG]

many have learned the wrong version of judge not . it has and will continue to only silence the truth that corrects the error .
SO what does it mean to judge .
IF speaking gravely , rebuking gravely
calling men adulterers and adulteresses
IS judging . BOY HOWDY i am sore afraid that would have made ALL THE APOSTELS IN TOTAL ERROR .

I don't have any reason to judge someone.

Flattery is what is bad. When a person flatters people with words. At least in my opinion.

 

[amigo de christo]

Scripture please, if you want anyone to take you seriously on trinity idols?

Have you ever wondered why i dont use the word trinity .
And rather use the word GOD head , as did paul and others .
the key to understanding the scrips
IS TO FIRST BELIEVE THEM . never twist them . JUST BELEIVE THEM .
INTIME the understanding will surely come as we have need of it .
ITS easy to prove JESUS is the alpha and that GOD is HIS WORD .
well cause JESUS said so as did the apostel john and others . GOD IS HIS WORD HE IS HIS SPIRIT
But i dont like the word trinity . I just really do not like that word .

 

[amigo de christo]

I don't have any reason to judge someone.

Flattery is what is bad. When a person flatters people with words. At least in my opinion.

technically FLATTERY is about the worst thing . ON that i do agree .
Flattery is bad news . speaking of flattery
why on earth do so many SO DESIRE FLATTERING TITLES such as REVERAND , FATHER , MOST HOLY REVERAND , MOST HOLY FATHER .
sounds very blasphemous to me . So allow me some parting words . I AINT GONNA call no man that
NOR will i ever once allow one to call me such names .
HERE is my name . FLEA OF DOG SINNER saved and changed BY GRACE .
my indian name is , HE WHO IS INTOTAL DIRE NEED OF GOD at all times
and can DO Nothing On my own but FAIL . BUT PRAISE GOD FOR HIS MERCY
FOR HIS GRACE , FOR HIS SPIRIT by which if a man do heed HE WILL NOT FALL .
THERE IS POWER in the BLOOD . yeah that is not just a cute sounding song . THERE IS
AND BY FAITH IN CHRIST we can surely and do surely OVERCOME the world .

 

[amigo de christo]

Post #16 First "page"
I asked my question that I have recieved no answer to.
I have been accused over, and over of waiting to ask this question and giving an answer.
Nonsense,
I asked my question at the beginning of this discussion.
The very people accusing me of drawing this out are the very ones who still have not given an answer.
The accusations dont bother me just pointing out the facts in my own defense.

.When you disagree with God you are wrong 100% of the time.
Proverbs 13:24,
- whoever spares the rod HATES THEIR CHILDREN but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them

If you disagree with this,
Proverbs 3:5-6,
- trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding
in all your ways submit to Him and He will make your paths straight

so the question you asked is would the son have repented if he had not went . NO SIR .
HE said no , but WENT , aka DID WHAT we was told . TRUE REPENTANCE is not lip alone .
many say I GO SIR , but they dont . THEMS the ones in danger
The son who said NO at first was in rebellion , BUT DID REPENT , HE DID THE WORK .
THUS THAT IS REPENTANCE .