Ask the Father to help you in your weakness,
This is on my favorite passages out of many.
Jesus was tempted
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Ask the Father to help you in your weakness,
This is on my favorite passages out of many.
This is why both you and Saul,the supposed author of the letter,epistle,to the Hebrews,are wrong. And it is proof Saul did not know our Lord.
Jesus was not tempted as we are,and though in flesh,would not be able to be tempted "as we are".
Because Jesus did not possess a Sin Nature as we have.
Satan did not know this "man" who walked the earth and raised the dead,healed the blind, cast put demons,was The Word made flesh.
Which is why Satan challenged Jesus for proof He was.
"If you are the Son of God...."
Lucifers sin in Heaven was pride.And ego.
He thought himself able to do God's job better than God himself.And sought to take his place. Which is why Lucifer sinned against God and formed an angel army and lead them in a war against God.
Of course Lucifer lost. He and his army were cast out of Heaven. "And I saw Lucifer (aka " light bringer"), fall from Heaven like lightening."
Lucifer tempted Jesus in the desert to see if He,with the power He had already shown the people, would be possessed of ego and pride Himself.
Could Jesus turn rocks into bread? Of course. Lucifer,aka Satan, wanted Jesus to Sin!
To prove He was just a man at heart. To fall by leading a miracle worker to feel He had to prove Himself by using good, God's power,for evil, i.e. conceding to Satan's command.
At one point in their encounter Jesus preached righteousness to Lucifer as Jesus continued to ignored Lucifers challenges.
Jesus was God. He obeyed as a man, as an example, His mission to the world.
It is one thing to bring your new covenant to your people. It is another to live your teaching before those you choose as witness.
".....Ordinarily, however, the word means solicitation to that which is evil, and hence Satan is called "the tempter" (Matthew 4:3). Our Lord was in this way tempted in the wilderness. That temptation was not internal, but by a real, active, subtle being. It was not self-sought. It was submitted to as an act of obedience on his part. "Christ was led, driven. An unseen personal force bore him a certain violence is implied in the words" (Matthew 4:1-11).
The scene of the temptation of our Lord is generally supposed to have been the mountain of Quarantania (q.v.), "a high and precipitous wall of rock, 1,200 or 1,500 feet above the plain west of Jordan, near Jericho." "
The topic is not about was Jesus a sinner. He never sinned. However just as he was tempted. We too are also tempted, and we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
This is why the writer of Hebrews wrote,
The point is though Jesus was tempted, he can understand why we do fall short, and when we have those inclinations and fall. The point he understands.
There are so many people who say if you do fall short, God doesn’t love you anymore. That God is angry with you… none of that is true…
So we can learn to understand that Jesus too, was tempted just like us. So no one can say God doesn’t love people just because they fall short, and we have the High Priest who understand and can sympathize with us and through Yeshua by the spirit of Christ we can go to Yahavah about these things, find mercy, and understanding.
Like I’ve stated there are many people out there who will say if you fall short God doesn’t love you. That stuff is not true, we are able to get to Yahavah and ask him to help us in our short coming because knows we go through them, just as Jesus was tempted we can find some common ground here on these matters.
Isn’t that wonderful?
For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are
Ask the Father to help you in your weakness,
This is on my favorite passages out of many.
This is why the writer of Hebrews wrote,
The point is though Jesus was tempted, he can understand why we do fall short, and when we have those inclinations and fall. The point he understands.
There are so many people who say if you do fall short, God doesn’t love you anymore. That God is angry with you… none of that is true…
So we can learn to understand that Jesus too, was tempted just like us. So no one can say God doesn’t love people just because they fall short, and we have the High Priest who understand and can sympathize with us and through Yeshua by the spirit of Christ we can go to Yahavah about these things, find mercy, and understanding.
Like I’ve stated there are many people out there who will say if you fall short God doesn’t love you. That stuff is not true, we are able to get to Yahavah and ask him to help us in our short coming because knows we go through them, just as Jesus was tempted we can find some common ground here on these matters.
Isn’t that wonderful?
For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are
Ask the Father to help you in your weakness,
This is on my favorite passages out of many.
I think some folks post more for the benefit of others than for you (as far as any expectation of your mind changing). It might be more so that others would not be deceived by some of your doctrines (or lack thereof)
If you wanna try to control the narrative go make one’s own thread.
Thats how that works.
The topic is not about was Jesus a sinner. He never sinned. However just as he was tempted. We too are also tempted, and we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
This is why the writer of Hebrews wrote,
The point is though Jesus was tempted, he can understand why we do fall short, and when we have those inclinations and fall. The point he understands.
There are so many people who say if you do fall short, God doesn’t love you anymore. That God is angry with you… none of that is true…
So we can learn to understand that Jesus too, was tempted just like us. So no one can say God doesn’t love people just because they fall short, and we have the High Priest who understand and can sympathize with us and through Yeshua by the spirit of Christ we can go to Yahavah about these things, find mercy, and understanding.
Like I’ve stated there are many people out there who will say if you fall short God doesn’t love you. That stuff is not true, we are able to get to Yahavah and ask him to help us in our short coming because knows we go through them, just as Jesus was tempted we can find some common ground here on these matters.
Isn’t that wonderful?
For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are
Ask the Father to help you in your weakness,
This is on my favorite passages out of many.
Thats how that works.
The topic is not about was Jesus a sinner. He never sinned. However just as he was tempted. We too are also tempted, and we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
This is why the writer of Hebrews wrote,
The point is though Jesus was tempted, he can understand why we do fall short, and when we have those inclinations and fall. The point he understands.
There are so many people who say if you do fall short, God doesn’t love you anymore. That God is angry with you… none of that is true…
So we can learn to understand that Jesus too, was tempted just like us. So no one can say God doesn’t love people just because they fall short, and we have the High Priest who understand and can sympathize with us and through Yeshua by the spirit of Christ we can go to Yahavah about these things, find mercy, and understanding.
Like I’ve stated there are many people out there who will say if you fall short God doesn’t love you. That stuff is not true, we are able to get to Yahavah and ask him to help us in our short coming because knows we go through them, just as Jesus was tempted we can find some common ground here on these matters.
Isn’t that wonderful?
For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are
Ask the Father to help you in your weakness,
This is on my favorite passages out of many.
“Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.”
Hebrews 4:14-16 NKJV
Amen
Hebrews 4:14-16 NKJV
Amen
There are many people on the internet that aren’t really friendly. They will downplay you to others through pms and things like that, that’s why I try to remain authentic in the posts I make. If people would really like to share what they would like they should be encouraged to make their own threads. There are people on the internet who aren’t so authentic, and that’s what I believe people who are Christian’s should be… authentic, not trying to downplay others. That is all fleshly. There is nothing about the spirit at all… about that, it tells a lot about the heart.
I’m someone whom use to manipulate people for my own gain. I learned a lot about our human nature through the merit of the Lord Jesus and I’m so grateful for him and the Father revealing my imperfections and understanding that I’m not perfect and I am weak, and I need the strength of Christ to rely on.
I don’t rely on other people to tell me or teach me anything, but that doesn’t mean I can’t change my mind or become aware of certain aspects of insights that made known to me… by others.
It’s just very hard to change me, because I know how I am… I know the person in the mirror all too well.
I’m someone whom use to manipulate people for my own gain. I learned a lot about our human nature through the merit of the Lord Jesus and I’m so grateful for him and the Father revealing my imperfections and understanding that I’m not perfect and I am weak, and I need the strength of Christ to rely on.
I don’t rely on other people to tell me or teach me anything, but that doesn’t mean I can’t change my mind or become aware of certain aspects of insights that made known to me… by others.
It’s just very hard to change me, because I know how I am… I know the person in the mirror all too well.
Speaking for myself, I have never imagined I would change your mind.
My intention,as was observed correctly by another member, aligns with others who continue to address this thread so to do our part in leading readers away from taking your false doctrine to heart.
If you were permitted to continue unrebuffed, new Christians could be led to think you are correct in your postulations. You're not. Your pride will never face that. That is your fault.
Our responsibility, for as long as we care to address your errors,is to not remain quiet in the face of teachings designed to confuse God's people.
So,stay your course.
And we shall stay ours,in Jesus' name.
Amen!
amigo de christo
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Verily verily , i say unto verily , YOU HIT the nail spot on right . Its to protect the others so as they wont
be deceived . It aint this post that has me worried , YOU SHOULD see some of his other posts . Darn scary stuff .
Indeed we are in troublesome times . many have chosen the version of the love of el satan and his broad path
OVER the LOVE OF GOD and the narrow path . That is a fact friend . a fact and a very very sad one too .
amigo de christo
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SOUND it out for all to hear . Paul and the true apostel all preached the dire dire dire need to beleive on JESUS the CHRIST .
We cannot let this end time generation drown in the lie of the broad path of satan , they so believe is love ,
Regulators , MOUNT UP , its gospel preaching time and to teach ALL things HE did say and teach and later
the apostels under DIVINE inspiration of GOD wrote in their letters .
Many have chosen , and many more now head right into the snare , of a false unifying love that has come of the dragon
but been made to appear as though it is the Love of GOD , but on that broad inclusive and diverse path
that accepts more and more sin and now EVEN UNBELIEF in CHRIST is seen as love , they will meet their destruction
ON the DAY OF CHRIST JESUS whom thier broad love DENIED .
I regard posting on these forums as a place where we can all help equip those in Jesus Christ in the word of God. The forum itself just an arena where both the wolves in sheeps clothes and sheep are. The sheep just hear his voice, Jesus said so, a stranger they will not follow. Its all a good excercise towards overcoming regardless.
amigo de christo
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mathew i forgive you if you been downplaying me to others through pms and etc .
Rather odd mathew . you just wrote
that you used to manipulate people for your own gain .
When you cry foul at everyone and play the victim card , HEY MATHEW that IS A MANIPULATION CARD friend .
just thought you needed to know that . You manipulate , BUT DO SO through playing the
victim and making everyone who LOVES YOU and tries to help you , SEEM as a manipulater , a judger , a hater . pray about this PLEASE .
Why not clear the air with very direct questions.
Jesus is just what scripture says, The Word made flesh. "I and the Father are one".
Or,
Jesus was a man chosen by God to perform His miracles and deliver His Gospel. But Jesus was able to sin just as he was able to be tempted.
Which is it? For any who care to pick and answer.
Jesus is just what scripture says, The Word made flesh. "I and the Father are one".
Or,
Jesus was a man chosen by God to perform His miracles and deliver His Gospel. But Jesus was able to sin just as he was able to be tempted.
Which is it? For any who care to pick and answer.
amigo de christo
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Stick to every word in that there bible that was left to us .
Many preach another jesus these days . Please understand why i didnt capitlize that one .
Cause it AINT JESUS and it cannot save them or deliver them .
Many today preach about this other version of what they call LOVE and claim is of GOD .
but it is of the world and through deceptive means satan has twisted this image into what HE calls GOD
and it sure honors him , as in satan , NOT GOD . satan is very wise and is full of the wisdom of this world .
THE SHEEP wont heed him , FOR JESUS has the sheep . but beware satan and his men
can make the claim that GOD IS LOVE , which is true , make the claim that GOD desires not their death
BUT THEN USE that truth to SPOUT A FAT LIE that accepts sins and even UNBELEIF .
satan is slick . They wont preach JESUS the CHRIST , all they holler is God is love and use that line
to JUSTIFY their own sins , to justify UNBELEIF IN CHRIST . its all a deadly delusion my friend .
Intefaith IS of anti christ and seeker friendly led them all to this and now all shall merge
NOT under doctrine , but under what they THINK is love , loving and is GOD . ONLY IT AINT GOD .
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
What GOD SPOKE is TRUTH . so sad that many sure seem to trod under foot
SOME and more and more OF HIS sayings all the time .
Folks holler we beleive in GOD we beleive in CHRIST and yet treat HIS own words as though they are hate speech .
PEOPLE treat both GOD and CHRIST as though they the devil and the devil as though HE and anti christ are GOD and CHRIST .
I guarantee ya that HAD JESUS come in the flesh one more time
and raised up and brought his own with him
and they all entered into the churches and onto websites
MOST PEOPLE WOULD LABEL THEM ALL HATERS , ANTI CHRISTS , devils as they embrace Satans version of todays god and his jesus .
WE BEEN DUPED and worse MANY SEEM TO LOVE THIS DECEPTOIN .
amigo de christo
Well-Known Member
you wanna know what most folks would tell JESUS if he came back as a man , WHICH HE AINT GONNA DO ,
and entered into their church or group or website .
THEY had said TONE IT DOWN BUDDY GOD IS LOVE , HEY BUDDIE you NEED JESUS . pretty sick but darn true this is .
This generation in large would TELL JESUS , HEY BUDDY You dont KNOW GOD , YOU DONT JESUS
that is a fact friend . and i am very worried for them as i desire them not to perish
but on the path they are on , THEY WILL PERISH if they repent NOT .
Jesus was never tempted ever in fact !
Jesus is Salvation it's self !
The Devil tryed to tempt Jesus, Tryed and failed, totaly failed in fact !
To try and tempt someone, does not mean that you will of tempt them !
Jesus thought on the matter and gave a responce and the Devil himself had no comeback in fact,
That's why Jesus trumped the Devil ! now some claim that the Devil has been defeted ? No he has not in fact, for now the Devil still holds sway on all that are not truly born again in fact !
One who is truly born again has an understanding on the workings of the Devil in fact and can reconise such temptations and call them out for what they truly are. and has the ability to deal with such because, such a one is not Lost to the ends of such temptations.
The Good old Devil himself offered Jesus everything ! what a great dude ! but Jesus knew that this lovely deal was corrupt and not worthy of God in fact !
Jesus turned him down and called him out ! so the Devil is now exposed ! He was exposed ! but carnal man is still under the Lost Camp ! and lead astray, but their is Hope for all, in Christ Jesus in fact ! one has to get on board.
Their was a Dude in the Bible, that was a Marked Man ! but he had a chance to repent ? that was what the Mark was about ! no one was alowed to kill him, for he killed Able.
God wanted him to repent. so he was to become a Marked man in regards God ! he had a Curse, and he should of repented ! but his ego was to great, for his power came from within himself ? The Sin of Pride !
The Sin in regards the Stain of original Sin, this was his power that he was driven by and not in regards God at all !
So he was cast out, for he was not worthy of God ! Not Man enough ! but only a Dupe that is lead astray for folly.
If one wants to look around you nowadays what do we see ? child man dealing with issues, and we can see as the years progress with child man dealings that such does not work ! for child man is Lost ! and this only causes more troubles that you can poke a stick at !
But with the Grace of God people do not run about like a mutt loose being a goose ! a trouble maker, who can not see past his own nose. who thinks everyone other than him, is the problem.
The Issue is truly such a goose ! because they truly have no respect for others in fact.
Jesus is Salvation it's self !
The Devil tryed to tempt Jesus, Tryed and failed, totaly failed in fact !
To try and tempt someone, does not mean that you will of tempt them !
Jesus thought on the matter and gave a responce and the Devil himself had no comeback in fact,
That's why Jesus trumped the Devil ! now some claim that the Devil has been defeted ? No he has not in fact, for now the Devil still holds sway on all that are not truly born again in fact !
One who is truly born again has an understanding on the workings of the Devil in fact and can reconise such temptations and call them out for what they truly are. and has the ability to deal with such because, such a one is not Lost to the ends of such temptations.
The Good old Devil himself offered Jesus everything ! what a great dude ! but Jesus knew that this lovely deal was corrupt and not worthy of God in fact !
Jesus turned him down and called him out ! so the Devil is now exposed ! He was exposed ! but carnal man is still under the Lost Camp ! and lead astray, but their is Hope for all, in Christ Jesus in fact ! one has to get on board.
Their was a Dude in the Bible, that was a Marked Man ! but he had a chance to repent ? that was what the Mark was about ! no one was alowed to kill him, for he killed Able.
God wanted him to repent. so he was to become a Marked man in regards God ! he had a Curse, and he should of repented ! but his ego was to great, for his power came from within himself ? The Sin of Pride !
The Sin in regards the Stain of original Sin, this was his power that he was driven by and not in regards God at all !
So he was cast out, for he was not worthy of God ! Not Man enough ! but only a Dupe that is lead astray for folly.
If one wants to look around you nowadays what do we see ? child man dealing with issues, and we can see as the years progress with child man dealings that such does not work ! for child man is Lost ! and this only causes more troubles that you can poke a stick at !
But with the Grace of God people do not run about like a mutt loose being a goose ! a trouble maker, who can not see past his own nose. who thinks everyone other than him, is the problem.
The Issue is truly such a goose ! because they truly have no respect for others in fact.
There is a video of a brother who was in the audience at the Joel Osteen show.
Osteen is speeching his materialist humanist philosophy. Our brother is standing for the truth of God.
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