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I understand that no one can separate us from the love of God and no one can thwart his plan of redemption for those sheep on His list ( whom are not yet saved). The spirit of antichrist is just that, those who are against Christ, not for Him. Satan has worked hard with his schemes to keep people away from Christ through other false religions: Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, TOE, psychological babble, alternative liberal philosophies, whatever, anything to keeps people away from Christ.
I realize that there are tares in the Church and false prophets, churches who claim Christ with gay Pastors and gay congregations, liberal churches, legalistic churches, etc. There were dead churches, churches with false doctrines in the 1st century too ( Rev. 2& 3). They were church types that exist now and all throughout history, so we are aware of them and if individuals within churches who disrupt and attempt to deceive others. But God is sovereign, so His plan is foolproof ... or don't you believe that? He has in mind salvation for an exact amount of sheep, no more, no less. So anyone who is ultimately lost, was never on His list - though He does not desire any to be lost, He knows who will be and won't be.
So the legion of demons are out there gathering as many as they can, just not God's elect - they try, cause havoc, and may temporarily lead them off the path; but God is on control of it all.
My point is many focus on what they call "THE Antichrist", thus leading many astray and off course, causing them to look for a singular man.
In all of the KJV Bible, and the Textus Receptus Greek Text, there are no such words saying: "THE Antichrist".

When one reads the context about "that spirit of antichrist", we are to know that there ARE MANY who are "the man of lawlessness", meaning that it's all to be understood in the plural.

There is no one man band, miracle man to come, that will be "THE Antichrist".
The fabrication about it is so deep in corruption, that churches have built their end time doctrines around a comic book figure, who never will show in the likeness that they IMAGINE.
 
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My point is many focus on what they call "THE Antichrist", thus leading many astray and off course, causing them to look for a singular man.
In all of the KJV Bible, and the Textus Receptus Greek Text, there are no such words saying: "THE Antichrist".

When one reads the context about "that spirit of antichrist", we are to know that there ARE MANY who are "the man of lawlessness", meaning that it's all to be understood in the plural.

There is no one man band, miracle man to come, that will be "THE Antichrist".
The fabrication about it us so deep in corruption, that churches have built their end time doctrines around a comic book figure, who never will show in the likeness that they IMAGINE.
There are and have been billions of antichrists. Simply those against Christ.
But there is one who takes power duringnthe Great Tribulation, a 3 1/2 year period. But if you are an Amillennialist, likely you interpret scripture much differently than I.

These scriptures point to one man, singular, empowered by Satan, who takes control if the world, who perswcutea Christians and the Jews.
ONE FINAL ANTICHRIST
2 Thessalonians 2:3-12:
Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

This passage describes the "man of lawlessness" or "man of sin" who will be revealed before the return of Christ. This figure will deceive many and oppose God's authority.

Revelation 13:1-8
Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name. 2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.


This chapter describes a "beast" (the Antichrist) who rises to power during the end times, deceives people, and persecutes those who follow Christ.

Daniel 7:25
He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,
Shall persecute the saints of the Most High,
And shall intend to change times and law.
Then the saints shall be given into his hand
For a time and times and half a time. ( 3 1/2 years)
The Old Testament "little horn" that rises to power and opposes God, mirrors themes of the Antichrist in the New Testament
 

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From the OP:

A 12 year-old boy sees Jesus and ...​

Seems to be many of these types of visions on YouTube ... true or false?
What say you.

I guess no one takes these NDEs seriously. ?
I watch 3/4 of the video, and I'm convinced he didn't see Jesus.
There are a lot of this type video on youtube. Some are true, some are false. You can tell usually.
A video interview would be better ... unless of course it was entirely fabricated. ?
Ok, so I clicked on the vid link while doing other things and watched the video portion only - no audio. Within 30 seconds, I discerned this vid was of the world and not of God. The production quality was trying too hard to be too slick and the transcript was sloppily written in third-person.

So I clicked it open to full-page and read the description posted below the vid, where there is a disclaimer:

"Disclaimer: The stories shared on this channel are purely fictional and are created for entertainment purposes only. Any resemblance to real-life events, persons, or places is purely coincidental. Our goal is to captivate and inspire audiences through imaginative storytelling, and we encourage viewers to enjoy these tales as works of fiction."

Apparently, this vid is "imaginative storytelling" - a "work of fiction."
 
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Yep, and Jesus said the tares would burn.

1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils

This is speaking of those that were born again at one point... but they choose to deny the faith and turn away from the Lord and they are no longer saved or born again as they "depart from the faith"

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Correct! Such an act of "departing from the faith", should not be misconstrued with departing from a particular church. Churches can and often do become Apostate.

For one to "depart from the faith" after being born again of God's Holy Spirit, THAT IS the act of committing blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, where "there is never forgiveness in this world, nor in the world to come".
 

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Apparently, this vid is "imaginative storytelling" - a "work of fiction."

Well, their fiction has caused some friction




For one to "depart from the faith" after being born again of God's Holy Spirit, THAT IS the act of committing blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, where "there is never forgiveness in this world, nor in the world to come".

Actually one can depart from the faith without blaspheming the Holy Ghost.

Like when one starts drinking booze, or smoking the devil's lettuce (weed) and gets intoxicated.
 

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This passage describes the "man of lawlessness" or "man of sin" who will be revealed before the return of Christ. This figure will deceive many and oppose God's authority.
Are not the words "the natural man" interpreted and understood to be in the plural?
Shall you say that Judas Iscariot was the only man, called by Jesus to be "the son of perdition"?

If "there are many antichrists? Are they not all "the son of perdition" also, as much as they ARE "the natural man"?
So then, we can safely conclude that all of such ARE "that man of sin", to be in the plural.
 
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Well, their fiction has caused some friction






Actually one can depart from the faith without blaspheming the Holy Ghost.

Like when one starts drinking booze, or smoking the devil's lettuce (weed) and gets intoxicated.
No!! That would be "grieving" the Holy Spirit, which is not the blasphemy against [despising] the Holy Spirit.
 

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There are and have been billions of antichrists. Simply those against Christ.
But there is one who takes power duringnthe Great Tribulation, a 3 1/2 year period. But if you are an Amillennialist, likely you interpret scripture much differently than I.

These scriptures point to one man, singular, empowered by Satan, who takes control if the world, who perswcutea Christians and the Jews.
ONE FINAL ANTICHRIST
2 Thessalonians 2:3-12:
Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

This passage describes the "man of lawlessness" or "man of sin" who will be revealed before the return of Christ. This figure will deceive many and oppose God's authority.

Revelation 13:1-8
Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name. 2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.


This chapter describes a "beast" (the Antichrist) who rises to power during the end times, deceives people, and persecutes those who follow Christ.

Daniel 7:25
He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,
Shall persecute the saints of the Most High,
And shall intend to change times and law.
Then the saints shall be given into his hand
For a time and times and half a time. ( 3 1/2 years)
The Old Testament "little horn" that rises to power and opposes God, mirrors themes of the Antichrist in the New Testament
Horns are always represented as being kings and/or lesser kingdoms/governments, but Beast's are always shown to be Empires that are world ruling. Therefore, anything of a "little horn" that is interpreted to be a Beast, is sheer fabrication.

According to the prophesies of Daniel and Revelation, there are only four Beast Empires that shall rule the world. The 4th Beast was the Roman Empire, which was wounded by a sword and yet lived. Out from it has come Europe [now the EU], and then later in time, the USA, which has two horns [forms of government] of itself, as did the "Ram" having two horns, being Medio-Persia.
 
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No!! That would be "grieving" the Holy Spirit, which is not the blasphemy against [despising] the Holy Spirit.

You really think one can still be in right standing with God WHILE they are engaging in sinful behavior!

Son, son... you gotta learn more about the Lord from His Word! There ain't no darkness in God.

It's only when one confesses and forsakes their sin... will the Lord have mercy on them

Proverbs 28:13
whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.


Those that sow to the flesh reap corruption... and are corrupt!

Galatians 6:7,8
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.


Those that say one does not reap corruption when engaging in sinful behavior are mocking God claiming we do not reap what we sow!
 

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You really think one can still be in right standing with God WHILE they are engaging in sinful behavior!

Son, son... you gotta learn more about the Lord from His Word! There ain't no darkness in God.

It's only when one confesses and forsakes their sin... will the Lord have mercy on them

Proverbs 28:13
whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.


Those that sow to the flesh reap corruption... and are corrupt!

Galatians 6:7,8
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.


Those that say one does not reap corruption when engaging in sinful behavior are mocking God claiming we do not reap what we sow!
In case you haven't noticed, all who have faith in the shed blood of Christ, AND are born again of God's Holy Spirit, HAVE recieved the Atonement for THEIR sins. Through FAITH, they are forgiven NOW and forever, BEING HID WITH Christ in God.

Luke 17
[21] Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Then see Luke 13:18-21.

Col. 3:1-10
[1] If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
[2] Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
[3] For ye are dead, and your life is HID WITH Christ in God.

Through faith in Christ, all of such are made to be sin-LESS before God the Father, but none of us, while dwelling in this flesh, are ever sin-FREE.
Becareful, you might be "casting stones" straight up into the air, only to fall onto your ownself.

Let us all know WHEN you become sin-FREE in your flesh.
Meanwhile, I will continue to Thank God for the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ, "the Lamb of God, who taketh away the sin of the world".

Does that mean I have permission, or a license to sin? NO! It simply means that I don't have to WORRY about sin, because it is the Leaven of Christ Himself within me, who shall leaven the whole lump, who taketh away the sin of myself, thereby always making me (and you) to be without sin before the Father. Luke 13:18-21.
 
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I understand that no one can separate us from the love of God and no one can thwart his plan of redemption for those sheep on His list ( whom are not yet saved). The spirit of antichrist is just that, those who are against Christ, not for Him. Satan has worked hard with his schemes to keep people away from Christ through other false religions: Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, TOE, psychological babble, alternative liberal philosophies, whatever, anything to keeps people away from Christ.
I realize that there are tares in the Church and false prophets, churches who claim Christ with gay Pastors and gay congregations, liberal churches, legalistic churches, etc. There were dead churches, churches with false doctrines in the 1st century too ( Rev. 2& 3). They were church types that exist now and all throughout history, so we are aware of them and if individuals within churches who disrupt and attempt to deceive others. But God is sovereign, so His plan is foolproof ... or don't you believe that? He has in mind salvation for an exact amount of sheep, no more, no less. So anyone who is ultimately lost, was never on His list - though He does not desire any to be lost, He knows who will be and won't be.
So the legion of demons are out there gathering as many as they can, just not God's elect - they try, cause havoc, and may temporarily lead them off the path; but God is on control of it all.
No one can separate from the love of Christ, but we can through it away.
 

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they are forgiven NOW and forever

No scripture... if they turn away from the Lord and don't repent asking for forgiveness and forsaking their sin to return back to walking with the Lord.... they will end up in heLL.

What you are describing is the false doctrines of OSAS (once saved, always saved) which is heresy and one has to ignore or explain away warnings the Lord put in His Word... to Christians concerning falling away



Does that mean I have permission, or a license to sin? NO! It simply means that I don't have to WORRY about sin

And this false and un-scriptural belief is exactly why so many get born again.... here messages from false preachers saying what you are saying... and they go back to living in sin because they are being taught doctrines of demons that claim it's not possible to lose one's salvation which is one of satan's favorite deceptions!
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No one can separate from the love of Christ, but we can through it away.

Yep... and end up in hell even though they were born again at one point.
 

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...they are being taught doctrines of demons that claim it's not possible to lose one's salvation which is one of satan's favorite deceptions!
Indeed!
 

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No scripture... if they turn away from the Lord and don't repent asking for forgiveness and forsaking their sin to return back to walking with the Lord.... they will end up in heLL.

What you are describing is the false doctrines of OSAS (once saved, always saved) which is heresy and one has to ignore or explain away warnings the Lord put in His Word... to Christians concerning falling away





And this false and un-scriptural belief is exactly why so many get born again.... here messages from false preachers saying what you are saying... and they go back to living in sin because they are being taught doctrines of demons that claim it's not possible to lose one's salvation which is one of satan's favorite deceptions!
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Yep... and end up in hell even though they were born again at one point.
Or they were never trulet born again
 

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Not true... some turn away from the faith to follow doctrines of demons. - see 1 Timothy 4:1
"Eternal Security" is also known as "once saved always saved," or "perseverance of the saints." In other words, once someone accepts Christ as their Lord and Savior, there is nothing that he or she can do to separate himself/herself from God, and they will always be saved. This is a false doctrine. Dozens of passages here and here show, without any doubt, that those who believe in Christ can fall away if they do not practice righteousness.
 

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Not true... some turn away from the faith to follow doctrines of demons. - see 1 Timothy 4:1

One cannot turn away from the faith if they were never in the faith at all
I believe that these verses below explain it 1 Timothy 4:1

1 John 2
18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
 

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Dozens of passages here and here show, without any doubt, that those who believe in Christ can fall away if they do not practice righteousness.

Exactly... but those who want to keep the door open to engage in a little sinful behavior every once in a while (or all the time for some) embrace OSAS doctrine so they can life in sin and still think they are saved.

And so they seek teachers that will tickle their itching ears!
 

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No one can separate from the love of Christ, but we can through it away.
You mean throw it away. Did you read the full scripture? Nothing can separate us from the love of God in Christ - not even ourselves!
For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom. 8:38-39
 

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I have scripturally and spiritually outlined for you (all) the difference between grieving the Holy Spirit and blasphemy against [to despise] the Holy Spirit, whereby they have been "tasters" of the heavenly Gift..
Mark 3
[28] Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
[29] But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
YES, in that regard of Mark 3:28-29, people can LOSE their salvation.
I have never said otherwise.

Remember Esau, and what he did with his Birthright. And therefore God hated Esau!
 
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