Jesus was tempted

[MatthewG]

What's important to know is that Jesus had been tempted, and that means when we are tempted he experienced the same things we have to go through in our heart, is this wrong or is the right. The internal decision to react by the flesh or the spirit, was the exact choice Jesus had, and we have today. Abiding in Christ is good to do, and the outcome can be much better than the flesh itself which can cause a lot of destruction.

When we act by the ways of the flesh:

19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.


When we act by the ways of the Spirit:
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

 

[Hobie]

This is a public forum.
If you are not aware it is relevant that Jesus was The Word,God,made flesh when anyone,including you, insists Jesus,God,was tempted and subject to bring susceptible to temptation,you should not have invited the discussion to begin.

Jesus being fully man could have sinned, but then all mankind here would have been lost. But being fully God at the same time allowed for His triumph over sin, to save us. It's a difficult thing to grasp and understand, but God's Word unveils it for us..

 

[Johann]

There are people who believe Jesus wrestled with lusting after women. Which is funny because God created all things by Him, so I cannot wrap my mind around him creating clay figures that he breathed life in and wanted to have sex with them, there are people who are pretty warped.

People are unhinged @Verily.

Give this a listen, a short clip.

 

[MatthewG]

It’s amazing to me that some don’t believe that the internal doesn’t influence the outward.

Our soul, is God give. It’s tempted by nature of the fleshly. We are given the world at birth, so all our soul knows is everything natural.

It feeds the soul, just as much as eating a sandwich. If someone is tempted to eat something is it wrong? Well no. Is it wrong to fill our wants if we want some new shoes, or something. No.

When we fill our soul with greed, hatefulness, lusting after someone’s wife. To some that is fulfilling only with devastation to dealt with, within the heart of the person, if they care or not, it’s between only themselves.

What is needed is to feed the soul with heavenly things.

Jesus was tempted just as much as we are, however he showcased how the new man would work, by and through a spiritual showcase even having suffered a life he lived.

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People fill their souls with all kinds of things naturally, such as getting the better hand on someone, gossiping, ridiculing, mocking, lusting after what one’s neighbors may have, etc…

There is no denying that we are tempted by external influences that influence our soul to use our body to do something.

It could be the heart having thoughts of murder, stealing, pulling the rug under someone so one can laugh at them when they fall.

It’s a wild world we live in with some many external influences, influencing the soul itself, and then from the heart/soul we are able then to make a choice to indulge or not.



Sure this may sound like a lot of nonbiblical rhetoric but it doesn’t make it any less than what we face… every day. To look to Yahavah, or look to ourselves.

 

[pepper]

Fascinating. And I expect it always shall be.

For others here be aware of the above statement.

If you are new to study of Scripture take caution from it.

You cannot say you study the words of God and then electively discard passages that do not comport with your self appointed image of the god you prefer.

Readers, Please read the full chapters for context. These excerpts get to the point. Jesus was God incarnate.

Don't let anyone ever convince you that fact is irrelevant. Because it has everything to do with your obtaining Salvation.

Philippians 2:6-7
Who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.

Colossians 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,


Matthew 1:23
Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” (which means, God with us).

John 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.

 

[Johann]

Readers, Please read the full chapters for context. These excerpts get to the point. Jesus was God incarnate.

Don't let anyone ever convince you that fact is irrelevant. Because it has everything to do with your obtaining Salvation.

Philippians 2:6-7
Who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.

Colossians 2:9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,


Matthew 1:23
Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” (which means, God with us).

John 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.

100% in agreement.

J.

 

[MatthewG]

People fight for what they prefer over faithfully believed things.

Jesus was a man who died on the cross. He was risen again by the Holy Spirit of Yahavah. Jesus also was divine by his second nature of having the fullness of God within himself as he was the Word of God born of spirit and born and made flesh.

Romans 8:11 The Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead. If the same Holy Spirit lives in you, He will give life to your bodies in the same way.

12 So then, Christian brothers, we are not to do what our sinful old selves want us to do. 13 If you do what your sinful old selves want you to do, you will die in sin. But if, through the power of the Holy Spirit, you destroy those actions to which the body can be led, you will have life.

Many people like to argue over “Jesus is God” without partaking in the natural state of him. You would think if the flesh was God, it would have never died. However the Man Jesus was the one whom died on the cross. God himself never died, and God himself was never tempted by sin.

The mass culture following is the natural sentiments of “Jesus is God.” And do so in order to follow a group of people who do so and they encourage one another to believe so… as though believing in the death, burial, and resurrection has no relevance to salvation when arbitrary to what they suggest is founded to be untruthful.

It’s never said to “believe Jesus is God” for salvation… no one can find it in scripture.

“For Moses writes about the righteousness which is of the law, “The man who does those things shall live by them.” But the righteousness of faith speaks in this way, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’ ” (that is, to bring Christ down from above) or, “ ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’ ” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10‬:‭5‬-‭9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Romans 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. | New King James Version (NKJV) | Download The Bible App Now

that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

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Though I do believe Jesus became God in the transfiguration as moving to his Fathers throne and being moved to his former glory, when Jesus was the Word of God in the beginning…

“After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, “Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this.” Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne set in heaven, and One sat on the throne. And He who sat there was like a jasper and a sardius stone in appearance; and there was a rainbow around the throne, in appearance like an emerald. Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the thrones I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns of gold on their heads. And from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. Before the throne there was a sea of glass, like crystal. And in the midst of the throne, and around the throne, were four living creatures full of eyes in front and in back. The first living creature was like a lion, the second living creature like a calf, the third living creature had a face like a man, and the fourth living creature was like a flying eagle. The four living creatures, each having six wings, were full of eyes around and within. And they do not rest day or night, saying: “Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, Who was and is and is to come!” Whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to Him who sits on the throne, who lives forever and ever, the twenty-four elders fall down before Him who sits on the throne and worship Him who lives forever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying: “You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created.””
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭4‬:‭1‬-‭11‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Revelation 4:11 “You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created.” | New King James Version (NKJV) | Download The Bible App Now

“You are worthy, O Lord, To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things, And by Your will they exist and were created.”

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It’s fascinating the dividing, and the infighting.

Acts 5:30 The God of our ancestors raised Jesus from the dead after you killed him by hanging him on a cross.

If this true by all means let it be, just the same as Jesus going into his former glory.

Jesus was a man whom was tempted.

You just can’t get around.

 

[MatthewG]

You can always find YouTube videos to get your bearings in what a person believes whether it’s true or not people must search it out themselves. Which is a rarity, because the Bible itself is hard to read but it’s easy to dispute. As you can see the many arguments people have with each other. Especially when it comes down to the trinity. In the end. The means of salvation is founded in believing from the heart, that Jesus has taken care of sin by his death on the cross, the burial and the raising of Jesus by the Holy Spirit of Yahavah.

Everyone of us are going to be tempted just as Jesus was and that temptation can be even looking at others for truth.

Be encouraged to seek Yahavah out for yourself and read the Bible for yourself.

 

[pepper]

People fight for what they prefer over faithfully believed things.

Jesus was a man who died on the cross. He was risen again by the Holy Spirit of Yahavah. Jesus also was divine by his second nature of having the fullness of God within himself as he was the Word of God born of spirit and born and made flesh.

Many people like to argue over “Jesus is God” without partaking in the natural state of him. You would think if the flesh was God, it would have never died. However the Man Jesus was the one whom died on the cross. God himself never died, and God himself was never tempted by sin.

The mass culture following is the natural sentiments of “Jesus is God.” And do so in order to follow a group of people who do so and they encourage one another to believe so… as though believing in the death, burial, and resurrection has no relevance to salvation when arbitrary to what they suggest is founded to be untruthful.

It’s never said to “believe Jesus is God” for salvation… no one can find it in scripture.

Though I do believe Jesus became God in the transfiguration as moving to his Fathers throne and being moved to his former glory, when Jesus was the Word of God in the beginning…

It’s fascinating the dividing, and the infighting.



If this true by all means let it be, just the same as Jesus going into his former glory.

Jesus was a man whom was tempted.

You just can’t get around

Jesus was a man who walked on water.

Can you walk on the waves of the sea during a storm?

If Jesus was God he could not have died?

I think it is Jehovah Witnesses that think Jesus was a man given special powers by God. They don't think Jesus was God. Which is the JWs then calling Jesus a liar.

Jesus didn't die.

"Into thy hands I commend my Spirit."

God,Holy and Spirit, left the body so to appear to witnesses that He had died. As would be expected of ones crucified.

Except He left that body long before was usual for those fully mortal to succumb.

And three days later Jesus arose from death.

Do you personally know any humans who have done that? No.

And Jesus walked out of the tomb. Then Jesus continued to minister His Good News Gospel for another 40 days.

Therein proving to His faithful His Gospel revokes Satan's power in the 2nd death.

Emmanuel/Immanuel, "God with us".

Readers. Study,seek. Search this question and study the results that affirm the fact with Scripture in proper context.

Search: why did Jesus have to be God

Jesus was God.

If you follow false doctrine that claims that is not true,or worse,that it is irrelevant,you will never know nor appreciate the Spirit of Salvation and its Good News.

You will also,once you learn the truth,ever convince followers of the false teaching that insists Jesus was not God. Only the Holy Spirit can reach the natural mind with His Spirit of Truth.

 

[MatthewG]

You can share whatever you like to pepper.

I just read the Bible for myself and see what’s there.

It’s just obvious how the common or mass culture of Christianity goes.

 

[MatthewG]

People should be encouraged to read there bible for themselves. But the likes of that is a rarity. It’s easy to look online for answers. It’s much harder to read the Bible to oneself.

 

[Verily]

Externally, Not internally-let me clarify.

Jesus experienced external temptations (e.g., in the wilderness with Satan, Matthew 4:1-11) and internal struggles, like hunger, thirst, and physical weariness (e.g., Matthew 4:2), but He did not succumb to sin. The text suggests He faced real temptation, but His sinless nature meant He did not give in to those temptations.

While Jesus did undergo intense trials and suffering, including the inward struggle, He did not experience temptation in the same fallen, sinful way we do, since He was fully divine and sinless.

His experience of temptation was a test of His obedience and faithfulness to God, but without sinning.

So, while He experienced real internal struggle (e.g., hunger in the wilderness), the nature of His temptation was distinct from ours, as He was sinless and untainted by the fallen human nature we inherit.
The Greek Text (Textus Receptus):
Hebrews 4:15
οὐ γὰρ ἔχομεν ἀρχιερέα μὴ δυνάμενον συμπαθῆσαι ταῖς ἀσθενείαις ἡμῶν, πεπειραμένον δὲ κατὰ πάντα καθ’ ὁμοιότητα χωρὶς ἁμαρτίας.

Key Clauses and Tenses:
οὐ γὰρ ἔχομεν ἀρχιερέα (ou gar echomen archierea)

Tense/Voice/Mood: Present Active Indicative
Translation: "For we do not have a high priest"
This introduces the subject: Jesus as the High Priest, with the negation setting up His superiority over ordinary priests.
μὴ δυνάμενον συμπαθῆσαι (mē dunamenon sympathēsai)

Tense/Voice/Mood: Present Middle/Passive Participle + Aorist Active Infinitive

Translation: "who cannot sympathize"

The participle "dunamenon" emphasizes His continuous ability to sympathize, and "sympathēsai" (infinitive) describes the action of His sympathy.

ταῖς ἀσθενείαις ἡμῶν (tais astheneiais hēmōn)

Case/Function: Dative plural, indirect object

Translation: "with our weaknesses"

This identifies the human condition Jesus understands.

πεπειραμένον δὲ κατὰ πάντα (pepeiraménon de kata panta)

Tense/Voice/Mood: Perfect Passive Participle

Translation: "but [one] who has been tempted in all things"

The perfect tense indicates a completed action with ongoing results: Jesus was tempted at a specific time and remains fully aware of the human experience of temptation.

Passive voice shows He experienced this temptation externally.

καθ’ ὁμοιότητα (kath’ homoiotēta)

Case/Function: Accusative singular, adverbial phrase

Translation: "according to likeness"

This phrase emphasizes that His temptation was like ours but not identical in origin (e.g., no sinful nature).

χωρὶς ἁμαρτίας (chōris hamartias)

Case/Function: Genitive singular, adverbial phrase

Translation: "without sin"

This clarifies that while Jesus was tempted, He never sinned, maintaining His perfect holiness.

Summary of the Syntax:

"Has been tempted" (πεπειραμένον) – Perfect tense indicates past events (His earthly life) with ongoing relevance (He sympathizes with our temptations today).

"In all things" (κατὰ πάντα) – Adverbial prepositional phrase emphasizing the comprehensiveness of His temptation.

"According to likeness" (καθ’ ὁμοιότητα) – Points to His experience being truly human yet distinct from sinful nature.

"Without sin" (χωρὶς ἁμαρτίας) – A crucial qualifier that separates Jesus from fallen humanity.

Without sin (chōris hamartias). This is the outstanding difference that must never be overlooked in considering the actual humanity of Jesus.

He did not yield to sin. But more than this is true. There was no latent sin in Jesus to be stirred by temptation and no habits of sin to be overcome.

But he did have “weaknesses” (astheneiai) common to our human nature (hunger, thirst, weariness, etc.). Satan used his strongest weapons against Jesus, did it repeatedly, and failed.

Jesus remained “undefiled” (amiantos) in a world of sin (Jhn_8:46). This is our ground of hope, the sinlessness of Jesus and his real sympathy.

I don’t spend much time on American television preachers or YouTube preachers.

J.

I am with you as far as there was no sin in him, all the devil could attempt to do was tempt him and he was tempted by Satan as God was of the Israelites, that didnt mean God was tempted to sin (God is not tempted of evil) its the wording people get hung up on.

If you were the only begotten Son and the Spirit led you to my house to be tempted by me (lets say). It could read that, "Johann, the only Begotten Son was tempted at every point we all are" yet without sin. Me, being the tempter tried to tempt you with real estate (showing you all the kingdoms of the world) to appeal to a man's lust of his eyes, or his flesh (command these marbles to become a bag of fritos). Surely I jest, but you could be said to have been "tempted" BY ME but it does not mean you were truly tempted (in yourself) to sin in that temptation (I am responsible for).

Because one can be tempted, for example, lets say "cake" after this manner, (person sees cake) inwardly says, mmm yummy, this looks delicious, sets their eyes upon it, thinks about what it will taste like, they start to salivate and lust conceives and thats followed by "let me take a a bite" (and does!) = sin

Or one can just be bombarded by the devil "to sin", such as the devil tempting Christ to tempt the LORD his God.

Deut 6:16 Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.

Mat 4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

So was Jesus wrestling really hard against tempting the LORD? No, he was being tempted to "tempt the LORD" by the tempter, and it was unsucessful because Jesus was not really tempted by the devils temptation.

 

[pepper]

Oh,and let's address the fixation that insists, Jesus was tempted.

This is to imply Jesus could not have been God.

Pay attention to the fact that while Jesus was God in flesh, the temptation that came to Jesus was by the acts of Satan.

Satan tempted God!Jesus!

While Jesus,who was not born with a Sin nature and was therefore not susceptible to sin by falling into temptation, defied the Temptor. He did not Sin.

Jesus was wet,if He walked in the rain. Jesus was sad and cried when learning of the death of Lazarus and even John the Baptist.

Satan came to Jesus,Immanuel,while Jesus was in the desert during His 40 day fast. Satan tempted Jesus.
Jesus was tempted by Satan.

That's Satan's fault! Not Jesus.
If Jesus were just a man imbued with divine powers His ego could very well been led to prove to Satan that He was the Son of God.

Would God,who some claim only im used a mortal man named Jesus with His power let Jesus answer Satan temptations to show Jesus' power as the Son of God?

Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Jesus was tempted.
So what?

Jesus never succumbed to Sin!

That is actually the point.

You are suppose to think because Jesus was tempted by Satan that somehow divests Jesus of His divine attributes.

Satan is at fault for trying to tempt Jesus.
Jesus was not at fault for being his target.

Emmanuel was God with us! Jesus was God!

Rather than being distracted from that fact by the statement, Jesus was tempted, remember this.

That wasn't Jesus' fault.

That was Satan's.

Can God Sin? No! Neither did Jesus!Immanuel/Emmanuel.

Jesus was hungry. Jesus was wet. Jesus cried. Jesus was thirsty.

Jesus was tempted.
Satan was highly disappointed.

 

[amigo de christo]

People are unhinged @Verily.

Give this a listen, a short clip.

i will shortly watch the video my friend . but beware TODD white doeth the work of his father , NOT THE FATHER .

 

[Johann]

So was Jesus wrestling really hard against tempting the LORD? No, he was being tempted to "tempt the LORD" by the tempter, and it was unsucessful because Jesus was not really tempted by the devils temptation.

I agree with the Scriptures @Verily however-I kindly ask for your patience.

Key Points to Clarify:
Jesus was genuinely tempted:

Matthew 4:1-11 and Luke 4:1-13 detail how Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. The Greek word πειράζω (peirazō) means "to test" or "to tempt," indicating a real experience of being tested.

GREEK TERMS FOR TESTING AND THEIR CONNOTATIONS

I was confused by the relationship between Matt. 6:13 and James 1:13. They seem to contradict each other. The answer came in the connotation of two Greek terms.

There are two Greek terms in all their forms that have the connotation of testing, trying, or tempting someone for a purpose.

Dokimazō, Dokimion, Dokimasia
 This term is a metalurgist term for testing the genuineness of something (i.e., metaphorically someone) by fire (see SPECIAL TOPIC: FIRE). The fire reveals the true metal and burns off (i.e., impurities) the dross. This physical process became a powerful idiom for God and/or Satan and/or humans testing others. This term is only used in a positive sense of testing with a view towards acceptance (see SPECIAL TOPIC: GOD TESTS HIS PEOPLE [OT]).
 It is used in the NT of testing
oxen ‒ Luke 14:19
one's life ‒ 1 Cor. 3:13
ourselves ‒ 1 Cor. 11:28
believers approved by God ‒ 2 Cor. 10:18; 1 Thess. 2:4
even God ‒ Heb. 3:9; 1 Pet. 1:7
our faith ‒ James. 1:3
spiritual messengers or prophets ‒ 1 John 4:1
 The outcomes of these tests were assumed to be positive (cf. Rom. 2:18; 16:10; 2 Cor. 10:18; 13:3,7), therefore, the term conveys the idea of someone examined and approved
to be worthwhile
to be good
to be genuine
to be valuable
to be honored

Peirazō, Ekpeirizō, Peirasmos, Peirasmo

This term often has the connotation of examination for the purpose of fault finding or rejection. It is used in connection to Satan's tempting Jesus in the wilderness (cf. Matthew 4; Luke 4).
It conveys the attempt to trap Jesus (cf. Matt. 4:1; 16:1; 19:3; 22:18, 35; Mark 1:13; Luke 4:2; Heb. 2:18).
This term (peirazōn) is used as a title for Satan in Matt. 4:3; 1 Thess. 3:5 (i.e., "the tempter"; see SPECIAL TOPIC: SATAN).
Usage
It was used by Jesus warning humans not to test God (cf. Matt. 4:7; Luke 4:12, [or Christ cf. 1 Cor 10:9]).
It also denotes the attempt to do something that has failed (cf. Heb.11:29).
It is used in connection with the temptation and trials of believers (cf. 1 Cor. 7:5; 10:9, 13; Gal. 6:1; 1 Thess. 3:5; Heb. 2:18; James. 1:2, 13, 14; 1 Pet. 4:12; 2 Pet 2:9).

SPECIAL TOPIC: GREEK TERMS FOR TESTING AND THEIR CONNOTATIONS

Greek Terms for Testing -- Special Topic by Dr. Bob Utley, professor of hermeneutics (retired).

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Hebrews 4:15 confirms this: "πειρασθέντα κατὰ πάντα καθ’ ὁμοιότητα, χωρὶς ἁμαρτίας" ("tempted in all points as we are, yet without sin"). This shows Jesus experienced real temptation but did not succumb.

Jesus' divine and human natures:

Jesus’ sinless nature (being fully God and fully man) means He could not be enticed by sin in the same way fallen humans are.

James 1:13: "Ὁ Θεὸς πειρασθῆναι οὐ δύναται κακῶν" ("God cannot be tempted by evil")-while referring to God’s divine nature, this does not negate Jesus’ ability to be tested in His humanity.

Temptation to "tempt the Lord":

One of the devil's temptations was for Jesus to throw Himself down from the pinnacle of the temple (Matthew 4:5-7, Luke 4:9-12).

Jesus responded by quoting Deuteronomy 6:16: "Οὐκ ἐκπειράσεις Κύριον τὸν Θεόν σου" ("You shall not tempt the Lord your God").

This indicates the devil’s attempt to provoke Jesus into an act of presumption or testing God’s power, which Jesus resisted.

Was Jesus "not really tempted"?

It is actually incorrect to say Jesus was "not really tempted" by the devil’s temptations. His resistance demonstrates His perfect obedience and sinlessness, not an absence of genuine testing.

Hebrews 5:8: "καίπερ ὢν υἱός, ἔμαθεν ἀφ’ ὧν ἔπαθεν τὴν ὑπακοήν" ("Though He was a Son, He learned obedience by the things which He suffered").

The devil’s attempts to tempt Jesus were real, but they were unsuccessful because of Jesus’ sinless and divine nature. His experience was genuine, and His victory demonstrates His role as the perfect Savior who overcame sin and temptation. However, to claim He was "not really tempted" misrepresents the fullness of the biblical teaching on His humanity and obedience.

You and I both know what Messiah used against Satan's tempting of Jesus.

Johann.

 

[MatthewG]

Picking and pulling at members is not my forte. Choose what you are willing to take, and test all things and hold on to what is good.

 

[pepper]

He was tempted by human means as well. Hatred, anger, etc…

You don't believe Jesus was God.
He was just a man. We get it.

God in the Old Testament was angry too. All those emotions ascribed to Him are there.
You're slandering the Divine by claiming God has faults.

 

[amigo de christo]

Picking and pulling at members is not my forte. Choose what you are willing to take, and test all things and hold on to what is good.

well dont heed Todd white , that man does the work of darkness my friend . OH darkness but he sure can
appear to be nice , kind and even loving . beware that man and its doctrine . Bible time .

 

[Verily]

I agree with the Scriptures @Verily however-I kindly ask for your patience.

Key Points to Clarify:
Jesus was genuinely tempted:

Matthew 4:1-11 and Luke 4:1-13 detail how Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. The Greek word πειράζω (peirazō) means "to test" or "to tempt," indicating a real experience of being tested.

GREEK TERMS FOR TESTING AND THEIR CONNOTATIONS

I was confused by the relationship between Matt. 6:13 and James 1:13. They seem to contradict each other. The answer came in the connotation of two Greek terms.

There are two Greek terms in all their forms that have the connotation of testing, trying, or tempting someone for a purpose.

Dokimazō, Dokimion, Dokimasia
 This term is a metalurgist term for testing the genuineness of something (i.e., metaphorically someone) by fire (see SPECIAL TOPIC: FIRE). The fire reveals the true metal and burns off (i.e., impurities) the dross. This physical process became a powerful idiom for God and/or Satan and/or humans testing others. This term is only used in a positive sense of testing with a view towards acceptance (see SPECIAL TOPIC: GOD TESTS HIS PEOPLE [OT]).
 It is used in the NT of testing
oxen ‒ Luke 14:19
one's life ‒ 1 Cor. 3:13
ourselves ‒ 1 Cor. 11:28
believers approved by God ‒ 2 Cor. 10:18; 1 Thess. 2:4
even God ‒ Heb. 3:9; 1 Pet. 1:7
our faith ‒ James. 1:3
spiritual messengers or prophets ‒ 1 John 4:1
 The outcomes of these tests were assumed to be positive (cf. Rom. 2:18; 16:10; 2 Cor. 10:18; 13:3,7), therefore, the term conveys the idea of someone examined and approved
to be worthwhile
to be good
to be genuine
to be valuable
to be honored

Peirazō, Ekpeirizō, Peirasmos, Peirasmo

This term often has the connotation of examination for the purpose of fault finding or rejection. It is used in connection to Satan's tempting Jesus in the wilderness (cf. Matthew 4; Luke 4).
It conveys the attempt to trap Jesus (cf. Matt. 4:1; 16:1; 19:3; 22:18, 35; Mark 1:13; Luke 4:2; Heb. 2:18).
This term (peirazōn) is used as a title for Satan in Matt. 4:3; 1 Thess. 3:5 (i.e., "the tempter"; see SPECIAL TOPIC: SATAN).
Usage
It was used by Jesus warning humans not to test God (cf. Matt. 4:7; Luke 4:12, [or Christ cf. 1 Cor 10:9]).
It also denotes the attempt to do something that has failed (cf. Heb.11:29).
It is used in connection with the temptation and trials of believers (cf. 1 Cor. 7:5; 10:9, 13; Gal. 6:1; 1 Thess. 3:5; Heb. 2:18; James. 1:2, 13, 14; 1 Pet. 4:12; 2 Pet 2:9).

SPECIAL TOPIC: GREEK TERMS FOR TESTING AND THEIR CONNOTATIONS

Greek Terms for Testing -- Special Topic by Dr. Bob Utley, professor of hermeneutics (retired).

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Hebrews 4:15 confirms this: "πειρασθέντα κατὰ πάντα καθ’ ὁμοιότητα, χωρὶς ἁμαρτίας" ("tempted in all points as we are, yet without sin"). This shows Jesus experienced real temptation but did not succumb.

Jesus' divine and human natures:

Jesus’ sinless nature (being fully God and fully man) means He could not be enticed by sin in the same way fallen humans are.

James 1:13: "Ὁ Θεὸς πειρασθῆναι οὐ δύναται κακῶν" ("God cannot be tempted by evil")-while referring to God’s divine nature, this does not negate Jesus’ ability to be tested in His humanity.

Temptation to "tempt the Lord":

One of the devil's temptations was for Jesus to throw Himself down from the pinnacle of the temple (Matthew 4:5-7, Luke 4:9-12).

Jesus responded by quoting Deuteronomy 6:16: "Οὐκ ἐκπειράσεις Κύριον τὸν Θεόν σου" ("You shall not tempt the Lord your God").

This indicates the devil’s attempt to provoke Jesus into an act of presumption or testing God’s power, which Jesus resisted.

Was Jesus "not really tempted"?

It is actually incorrect to say Jesus was "not really tempted" by the devil’s temptations. His resistance demonstrates His perfect obedience and sinlessness, not an absence of genuine testing.

Hebrews 5:8: "καίπερ ὢν υἱός, ἔμαθεν ἀφ’ ὧν ἔπαθεν τὴν ὑπακοήν" ("Though He was a Son, He learned obedience by the things which He suffered").

The devil’s attempts to tempt Jesus were real, but they were unsuccessful because of Jesus’ sinless and divine nature. His experience was genuine, and His victory demonstrates His role as the perfect Savior who overcame sin and temptation. However, to claim He was "not really tempted" misrepresents the fullness of the biblical teaching on His humanity and obedience.

You and I both know what Messiah used against Satan's tempting of Jesus.

Johann.

I dont see where I have expressed any disagreement with you on " He could not be enticed by sin in the same way fallen humans are"

 

[Verily]

Picking and pulling at members is not my forte. Choose what you are willing to take, and test all things and hold on to what is good.

I think most are, and are letting go of anything you say, which is good.