Jesus was not a Jew?

[Johann]

Jesus is still a Jew.

Yes, I prefer Dr. Michael Brown's debate against him and I have my own Bible to study-the Triune Godhead is biblical. And I don't deny Jesus is Jewish.

GOD’S SON IN TARGUM NEOFITI REVISITED

This is a follow up post to my article where I discuss the Trinity in Targum Neofiti (TN for short): THE TRINITY IN TARGUM NEOFITI. TN contains a remarkable paraphrase of Genesis 1:1, where it…

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THE TRINITY IN TARGUM NEOFITI

GOD’S SON IN TARGUM NEOFITI REVISITED

JEWISH SOURCES ON THE WORD AS A DIVINE PERSON

JUDAISMS’ VIEWS ON THE MESSIAH’S PREHUMAN EXISTENCE

Here are more quotes from the Targumim:

And the Lord said, This is the sign of the covenant which I appoint (give) between My Word, and between you, and between every living soul that is with you unto perpetual generations. I have set My bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a sign of the covenant between My Word and between the earth. And it shall be that when clouding I becloud the earth, the bow shall be seen in the cloud, and I will remember the covenant which is between My Word, and between You, and between every living soul of all flesh; and there shall not be again the waters of a deluge to destroy all flesh. And the bow shall be in the cloud, and I will look upon it, to remember the everlasting covenant between the Memra of the Lord and between every living soul of all flesh that is upon the earth. And the Lord said, This is the sign of the covenant which I have established between My Word and between all flesh which is upon the earth. (Targum Onkelos, Genesis 9)

After these things the word (pithgama) of the Lord came to Abram in prophecy, saying, Fear not, Abram: My Word shall be thy strength, and thy exceeding great reward … And he believed in the Memra of the Lord (Memra da Yeya), and He reckoned it to him unto justification. (Targum Onkelos, Genesis 15)

And the Word came from the presence of the Lord to Abimelek in a dream of the night, and said to him, … (Targum Onkelos, Genesis 20)

And Israel saw the power of the mighty hand by which the Lord had wrought the miracles in Mizraim; and the people feared before the Lord, and believed in the Name of the Memra of the Lord, and in the prophecies of Mosheh His servant. (Targum Pseudo-Jonathan, Exodus 14)

And the Memra of the Lord spake all the excellency of these words saying: … (Fragmentary Targum, Exodus 20)

And I will appoint My Word with thee there, and will speak with thee from above the mercyseat, between the two kerubaia that are over the ark of the testament, concerning all that I may command thee for the sons of Israel. (Targum Pseudo Jonathan, Exodus 25:22)

It was when the ark went forward. Mosheh stood, with hands (outstretched) in prayer, and said, Arise now, O Memra of the Lord, in the power of Thy might, and let the adversaries of Thy people be scattered, and make Thine enemies flee before Thee. But when the ark rested, Mosheh lifted his hands in prayer, and said, O Memra of the Lord, turn from the strength of Thy anger, and return unto us in the goodness of Thy mercy, and bless the myriads and multiply the thousands of the children of Israel. (Fragmentary Targum, Numbers 10:35)

Be strong and of good courage, fear not, nor be broken before them; for the Memra of the Lord thy God will be the leader before thee, He will not forsake thee, nor be far off from thee. And Mosheh called Jehoshua, and said to him before the eyes of all Israel, Be strong and of good courage; for thou art to go in with this people to the land which the Lord hath sworn to their fathers to give it to them, and thou shalt cause them to inherit. But the Lord, He is the leader before thee; His Word shall be thy helper, for He will not forsake thee, nor be far from thee; fear not, nor be dismayed. (Targum Onqelos, Deuteronomy 31)

And the Memra of the Lord will deliver them up before you, and you shall do to them according to all the commandment that I have commanded you. Be strong, then, and of good courage, fear not, nor be dismayed before them; for the Shekinah of the Lord your God will be the Leader of you, He will not forsake nor be far from you. And Mosheh called Jehoshua from among the people, and said to him: Be thou strong, and of good courage; for thou art appointed to go with this people to the land which the Memra of the Lord sware to your fathers to give them, and thou art to divide it among them. And the Shekinah of the Memra of the Lord will go before thee, and His Word will be thy helper; He will not forsake nor be far from thee; fear not, nor be dismayed. (Targum Pseudo-Jonathan, Deuteronomy 31)

Who hath directed the Holy Spirit in the mouth of all the prophets? Is it not the Lord? He maketh known the words of His will to the righteous, the servants of His Word. (Targum Jonathan on the Prophets, Isaiah 40)

… thou shalt rejoice in the Memra of the Lord, thou shalt glory in the Holy One of Israel. (Targum Jonathan on the Prophets, Isaiah 41)

PHILO OF ALEXANDRIA

Philo was an Alexandrian Jew who wrote treatises on the Jewish faith in Greek. He too speaks of the Word, whom he calls the Logos in Greek, the same term employed by John’s Gospel.

ON THE WORD CREATING MANKIND:

… the great Moses has not named the species of the rational soul by a title resembling that of any created being, but has pronounced it an image of the divine and invisible being, making it a coin as it were of sterling metal, stamped and impressed with the seal of God, the impression of which is the eternal Word. For, says Moses, “God breathed into man’s face the breath of Life,” so that it follows of necessity, that he that received the breath must be fashioned after the model of him who sent it forth. On which account it is said too, that “Man was made after the image of God,” and not after the image of any created being. It follows, therefore, since the soul of man has been fashioned in accordance with the archetypal Word of the great cause of all things…. (Concerning Noah’s Work as a Planter, V. 18-20)

And it is the nature of unity not to be capable of either addition or subtraction, inasmuch as it is the image of the only complete God; for all other things are intrinsically and by their own nature loose; and if there is any where any thing consolidated, that has been bound by the Word of God, for this Word is glue and a chain, filling all things with its essence. And the Word, which connects together and fastens every thing, is peculiarly full itself of itself, having no need whatever of any thing beyond. (Who is the Heir of Divine Things?, 187-188)

ON THE WORD AS THE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND THE WORLD:

And the Father who created the universe has given to his archangelic and most ancient Word a pre-eminent gift, to stand on the confines of both, and separated that which had been created from the Creator. And this same Word is continually a suppliant to the immortal God on behalf of the mortal race, which is exposed to affliction and misery; and is also the ambassador, sent by the Ruler of all, to the subject race. And the Word rejoices in the gift, and, exulting in it, announces it and boasts of it, saying, “And I stood in the midst, between the Lord and You;” neither being uncreated as God, nor yet created as you, but being in the midst between these two extremities, like a hostage, as it were, to both parties: a hostage to the Creator, as a pledge and security that the whole race would never fly off and revolt entirely, choosing disorder rather than order; and to the creature, to lead it to entertain a confident hope that the merciful God would not overlook his own work. For I will proclaim peaceful intelligence to the creation from him who has determined to destroy wars, namely God, who is ever the guardian of peace. (Who Is the Heir of Divine Things, 205-206)

ON THE WORD BEING THE ONE WHO DESTROYED SODOM:

… and with respect to which [i.e. the Logos/Word] it is said, “The sun went forth upon the earth, and Lot entered into Segor, and the Lord rained upon Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire.” For the Word of God, when it reaches to our earthly constitution, assists and protects those who are akin to virtue, or whose inclinations lead them to virtue; so that it provides them with a complete refuge and salvation, but upon their enemies it sends irremediable overthrow and destruction. (On Dreams, I. 85-86)

J.

 

[Matthias]

Yes, I prefer Dr. Michael Brown's debate against him and I have my own Bible to study-the Triune Godhead is biblical. And I don't deny Jesus is Jewish.

GOD’S SON IN TARGUM NEOFITI REVISITED

This is a follow up post to my article where I discuss the Trinity in Targum Neofiti (TN for short): THE TRINITY IN TARGUM NEOFITI. TN contains a remarkable paraphrase of Genesis 1:1, where it…

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THE TRINITY IN TARGUM NEOFITI

GOD’S SON IN TARGUM NEOFITI REVISITED

JEWISH SOURCES ON THE WORD AS A DIVINE PERSON

JUDAISMS’ VIEWS ON THE MESSIAH’S PREHUMAN EXISTENCE

Here are more quotes from the Targumim:

And the Lord said, This is the sign of the covenant which I appoint (give) between My Word, and between you, and between every living soul that is with you unto perpetual generations. I have set My bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a sign of the covenant between My Word and between the earth. And it shall be that when clouding I becloud the earth, the bow shall be seen in the cloud, and I will remember the covenant which is between My Word, and between You, and between every living soul of all flesh; and there shall not be again the waters of a deluge to destroy all flesh. And the bow shall be in the cloud, and I will look upon it, to remember the everlasting covenant between the Memra of the Lord and between every living soul of all flesh that is upon the earth. And the Lord said, This is the sign of the covenant which I have established between My Word and between all flesh which is upon the earth. (Targum Onkelos, Genesis 9)

After these things the word (pithgama) of the Lord came to Abram in prophecy, saying, Fear not, Abram: My Word shall be thy strength, and thy exceeding great reward … And he believed in the Memra of the Lord (Memra da Yeya), and He reckoned it to him unto justification. (Targum Onkelos, Genesis 15)

And the Word came from the presence of the Lord to Abimelek in a dream of the night, and said to him, … (Targum Onkelos, Genesis 20)

And Israel saw the power of the mighty hand by which the Lord had wrought the miracles in Mizraim; and the people feared before the Lord, and believed in the Name of the Memra of the Lord, and in the prophecies of Mosheh His servant. (Targum Pseudo-Jonathan, Exodus 14)

And the Memra of the Lord spake all the excellency of these words saying: … (Fragmentary Targum, Exodus 20)

And I will appoint My Word with thee there, and will speak with thee from above the mercyseat, between the two kerubaia that are over the ark of the testament, concerning all that I may command thee for the sons of Israel. (Targum Pseudo Jonathan, Exodus 25:22)

It was when the ark went forward. Mosheh stood, with hands (outstretched) in prayer, and said, Arise now, O Memra of the Lord, in the power of Thy might, and let the adversaries of Thy people be scattered, and make Thine enemies flee before Thee. But when the ark rested, Mosheh lifted his hands in prayer, and said, O Memra of the Lord, turn from the strength of Thy anger, and return unto us in the goodness of Thy mercy, and bless the myriads and multiply the thousands of the children of Israel. (Fragmentary Targum, Numbers 10:35)

Be strong and of good courage, fear not, nor be broken before them; for the Memra of the Lord thy God will be the leader before thee, He will not forsake thee, nor be far off from thee. And Mosheh called Jehoshua, and said to him before the eyes of all Israel, Be strong and of good courage; for thou art to go in with this people to the land which the Lord hath sworn to their fathers to give it to them, and thou shalt cause them to inherit. But the Lord, He is the leader before thee; His Word shall be thy helper, for He will not forsake thee, nor be far from thee; fear not, nor be dismayed. (Targum Onqelos, Deuteronomy 31)

And the Memra of the Lord will deliver them up before you, and you shall do to them according to all the commandment that I have commanded you. Be strong, then, and of good courage, fear not, nor be dismayed before them; for the Shekinah of the Lord your God will be the Leader of you, He will not forsake nor be far from you. And Mosheh called Jehoshua from among the people, and said to him: Be thou strong, and of good courage; for thou art appointed to go with this people to the land which the Memra of the Lord sware to your fathers to give them, and thou art to divide it among them. And the Shekinah of the Memra of the Lord will go before thee, and His Word will be thy helper; He will not forsake nor be far from thee; fear not, nor be dismayed. (Targum Pseudo-Jonathan, Deuteronomy 31)

Who hath directed the Holy Spirit in the mouth of all the prophets? Is it not the Lord? He maketh known the words of His will to the righteous, the servants of His Word. (Targum Jonathan on the Prophets, Isaiah 40)

… thou shalt rejoice in the Memra of the Lord, thou shalt glory in the Holy One of Israel. (Targum Jonathan on the Prophets, Isaiah 41)

PHILO OF ALEXANDRIA

Philo was an Alexandrian Jew who wrote treatises on the Jewish faith in Greek. He too speaks of the Word, whom he calls the Logos in Greek, the same term employed by John’s Gospel.

ON THE WORD CREATING MANKIND:

… the great Moses has not named the species of the rational soul by a title resembling that of any created being, but has pronounced it an image of the divine and invisible being, making it a coin as it were of sterling metal, stamped and impressed with the seal of God, the impression of which is the eternal Word. For, says Moses, “God breathed into man’s face the breath of Life,” so that it follows of necessity, that he that received the breath must be fashioned after the model of him who sent it forth. On which account it is said too, that “Man was made after the image of God,” and not after the image of any created being. It follows, therefore, since the soul of man has been fashioned in accordance with the archetypal Word of the great cause of all things…. (Concerning Noah’s Work as a Planter, V. 18-20)

And it is the nature of unity not to be capable of either addition or subtraction, inasmuch as it is the image of the only complete God; for all other things are intrinsically and by their own nature loose; and if there is any where any thing consolidated, that has been bound by the Word of God, for this Word is glue and a chain, filling all things with its essence. And the Word, which connects together and fastens every thing, is peculiarly full itself of itself, having no need whatever of any thing beyond. (Who is the Heir of Divine Things?, 187-188)

ON THE WORD AS THE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND THE WORLD:

And the Father who created the universe has given to his archangelic and most ancient Word a pre-eminent gift, to stand on the confines of both, and separated that which had been created from the Creator. And this same Word is continually a suppliant to the immortal God on behalf of the mortal race, which is exposed to affliction and misery; and is also the ambassador, sent by the Ruler of all, to the subject race. And the Word rejoices in the gift, and, exulting in it, announces it and boasts of it, saying, “And I stood in the midst, between the Lord and You;” neither being uncreated as God, nor yet created as you, but being in the midst between these two extremities, like a hostage, as it were, to both parties: a hostage to the Creator, as a pledge and security that the whole race would never fly off and revolt entirely, choosing disorder rather than order; and to the creature, to lead it to entertain a confident hope that the merciful God would not overlook his own work. For I will proclaim peaceful intelligence to the creation from him who has determined to destroy wars, namely God, who is ever the guardian of peace. (Who Is the Heir of Divine Things, 205-206)

ON THE WORD BEING THE ONE WHO DESTROYED SODOM:

… and with respect to which [i.e. the Logos/Word] it is said, “The sun went forth upon the earth, and Lot entered into Segor, and the Lord rained upon Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire.” For the Word of God, when it reaches to our earthly constitution, assists and protects those who are akin to virtue, or whose inclinations lead them to virtue; so that it provides them with a complete refuge and salvation, but upon their enemies it sends irremediable overthrow and destruction. (On Dreams, I. 85-86)

J.

You don’t sound like Jesus.

 

[Johann]

You don’t sound like Jesus.

Is it simply because I disagree with you and your sources?

Why should I accept the claims of a Jewish monotheist as defining the truth for me?

J.

 

[Matthias]

Is it simply because I disagree with you and your sources?

No.

Why should I accept the claims of a Jewish monotheist as defining the truth for me?

J.

Jesus is a Jewish monotheist. He is the one who defines truth for his disciples (John 6:63). You should accept his claims.

 

[Johann]

Jesus is a Jewish monotheist. He is the one who defines truth for his disciples (John 6:63). You should accept his claims.

I accept His claims, not what YOU want to feed me.

J.

 

[Matthias]

I accept His claims, not what YOU want to feed me.

J.

I feed you the words of Jesus, the prophets, and the apostles - who are all Jewish monotheists, not trinitarians - and, because you are a trinitarian, the words of trinitarian scholarship.

 

[Johann]

I feed you the words of Jesus, the prophets, and the apostles - who are all Jewish monotheists, not trinitarians - and, because you are a trinitarian, the words of trinitarian scholarship.

You have thus far not put up a persuasive rebuttal on anything I have posted and the Triune Godhead is biblical.

J.

 

[Matthias]

You have thus far not put up a persuasive rebuttal on anything I have posted and the Triune Godhead is biblical.

J.

The Messiah’s own God is Yahweh, not the Trinity. It’s Jewish monotheism that is biblical. I find that persuasive, whether you or anyone else does or not.

 

[Matthias]

From my X / Twitter “For you” feed.

“Jews and Christians do not worship the same God.”

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My reaction to that: That’s bold as brass. Be careful.

Jesus is a Jew. The apostles are Jews. The primitive Christians are Jews.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

From my X / Twitter “For you” feed.

“Jews and Christians do not worship the same God.”

x.com

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My reaction to that: That’s bold as brass. Be careful.

Jesus is a Jew. The apostles are Jews. The primitive Christians are Jews.

Their was only Jews who were the first Christians in fact ! the rest of the so called Jews were lead astray by the morons who only wanted to kill all of Gods Messengers, remember that ?

In the Vineyard story we can see who it was that killed all of Gods Prophets in fact and then it was this Ilk that wanted to kill Jesus.

Jesus was offering Salvation ! and the Dominant Jews were totaly against anything to do with Salvation ! why was that ? well they were on a mans works trip ! They thought it all had to do with their willpower ? and cunning ! so as to dominate over the whole world in fact ! and inslave all people ! they even dominated over the Jews in fact ! for They wanted a Leader who would destroy everyone that stood in their path ! and that is still the main objective of the Talmud so called Jews in fact, they have worked to such ends all throught Histrory !
Look at every Country that kicked out the Jews in History ! and ask what did them so called Jews do wrong ? well they invoked the Talmud workings on the Peoples in fact ! Morality was undermined ! Buisnesses were undermined ! Lending money was full of criminal intent to destroy the Nations that the god Talmud dominated over the People !

The Talmud is the Blueprint of the most evil workings ever all through History ! such out right full on racial prejudice, that even Hitler did not go that far as the Talmud whore ! tho Hitler was under the influence of the Talmud in fact because Hitler and his Nazis were on much the same path as the Talmud, they are like railway tracks, for they follow the same path regarding directions ?
The Talmud so called Jews are a curse ! that full on works so as to undermine God !

But The worthy Jews became Christians in fact ! but the idiot Goyim think it's all about the Jews that's being the problem ?
But the Talmud whore has workings within the Church for years ! playing away with Anti-Christ intent ! they have hidden within, they have been working in small groups within the Church like a Cancer ! they climb their way into top possitions so as to dominate and pull strings !

So nowadays we can clearly see that every Church denomination is not worthy of Christ Jesus as their Head in fact ! for they bow down to and grovel to the Governments like a mongral mutt !

So I have idiots who claim I am a Jew ! many so called Christians make that claim to me ! for they are un educated on the reality in fact, not to mention such clowns will make demands over me ! claiming I am anti Jewish because I call some things out ? Well well Jesus called such things out as well in fact ! because the Jews were on the wrong Path in fact ! in regards God in fact !
But some so called Christians Idolise the so called Jews in fact ! for they have been brainwashed by Satanist !
The fact is that the so called Jews are not worthy of God in fact ! nor are most Christians in fact as Jesus said of such ! for they do not Know him ! for they do not abide in him in fact but only make claimes of what they did !

Fact is that the only value is that Christ has done within you and that you abide in him, period ! it's called Grace !

Their is no Grace in the Talmud at all in fact !

 

[Matthias]

Their was only Jews who were the first Christians in fact ! the rest of the so called Jews were lead astray by the morons who only wanted to kill all of Gods Messengers, remember that ?

In the Vineyard story we can see who it was that killed all of Gods Prophets in fact and then it was this Ilk that wanted to kill Jesus.

Jesus was offering Salvation ! and the Dominant Jews were totaly against anything to do with Salvation ! why was that ? well they were on a mans works trip ! They thought it all had to do with their willpower ? and cunning ! so as to dominate over the whole world in fact ! and inslave all people ! they even dominated over the Jews in fact ! for They wanted a Leader who would destroy everyone that stood in their path ! and that is still the main objective of the Talmud so called Jews in fact, they have worked to such ends all throught Histrory !
Look at every Country that kicked out the Jews in History ! and ask what did them so called Jews do wrong ? well they invoked the Talmud workings on the Peoples in fact ! Morality was undermined ! Buisnesses were undermined ! Lending money was full of criminal intent to destroy the Nations that the god Talmud dominated over the People !

The Talmud is the Blueprint of the most evil workings ever all through History ! such out right full on racial prejudice, that even Hitler did not go that far as the Talmud whore ! tho Hitler was under the influence of the Talmud in fact because Hitler and his Nazis were on much the same path as the Talmud, they are like railway tracks, for they follow the same path regarding directions ?
The Talmud so called Jews are a curse ! that full on works so as to undermine God !

But The worthy Jews became Christians in fact ! but the idiot Goyim think it's all about the Jews that's being the problem ?
But the Talmud whore has workings within the Church for years ! playing away with Anti-Christ intent ! they have hidden within, they have been working in small groups within the Church like a Cancer ! they climb their way into top possitions so as to dominate and pull strings !

So nowadays we can clearly see that every Church denomination is not worthy of Christ Jesus as their Head in fact ! for they bow down to and grovel to the Governments like a mongral mutt !

So I have idiots who claim I am a Jew ! many so called Christians make that claim to me ! for they are un educated on the reality in fact, not to mention such clowns will make demands over me ! claiming I am anti Jewish because I call some things out ? Well well Jesus called such things out as well in fact ! because the Jews were on the wrong Path in fact ! in regards God in fact !
But some so called Christians Idolise the so called Jews in fact ! for they have been brainwashed by Satanist !
The fact is that the so called Jews are not worthy of God in fact ! nor are most Christians in fact as Jesus said of such ! for they do not Know him ! for they do not abide in him in fact but only make claimes of what they did !

Fact is that the only value is that Christ has done within you and that you abide in him, period ! it's called Grace !

Their is no Grace in the Talmud at all in fact !

A Christian on the forum was trying hard to sell me on the Talmud (and the Zohar) recently. No sale.

 

[Johann]

A Christian on the forum was trying hard to sell me on the Talmud (and the Zohar) recently. No sale.

Intellectual dishonesty-Michael Brown is doing the same, quoting the Talmuds and the Zohar in his debates and you don't have to "buy what is been selling"

I can help readers access to the Talmuds and the Zohar for free.

The reason why you are on ignore.

J.

 

[Matthias]

Intellectual dishonesty-Michael Brown is doing the same, quoting the Talmuds and the Zohar in his debates and you don't have to "buy what is been selling"

I can help readers access to the Talmuds and the Zohar for free.

The reason why you are on ignore.

J.

The devil doesn’t ignore me. He falsely accuses me.

 

[Lambano]

The reason why you are on ignore.

The devil doesn’t ignore me. He falsely accuses me.

It's a shame you two don't get along better. For a while, you were having civilized conversations with well-thought-out, well-researched contributions. The way a discussion board should be.

 

[Matthias]

It's a shame you two don't get along better. For a while, you were having civilized conversations with well-thought-out, well-researched contributions. The way a discussion board should be.

I haven’t changed. He did, and he can do it again. He knows where to find me and I always leave the porch light on.

 

[Johann]

It's a shame you two don't get along better. For a while, you were having civilized conversations with well-thought-out, well-researched contributions. The way a discussion board should be.

He struggles to accept the straightforward and explicit scriptural evidence that the Messiah is indeed Elohim, and I’m not here for ad hominem arguments.

Plain and simple, @Lambano.

J.

 

[Matthias]

He struggles to accept the straightforward and explicit scriptural evidence that the Messiah is indeed Elohim, and I’m not here for ad hominem arguments.

Plain and simple, @Lambano.

J.

The Messiah is identified as elohim in scripture. I easily acknowledge it, easily accept it, and write frequently about it.

 

[Matthias]

When a false teacher tells us that we are struggling to accept a “straightforward and explicit scriptural evidence“ about anything, it isn’t the “ straightforward and explicit scriptural evidence” that we‘re rejecting. It’s the false teacher with his or her false teaching about a “straightforward and explicit scriptural evidence” that we are struggling against.

To take it a step further, as Paul does and all disciples of the Messiah should, for -

“we are not fighting against human beings but against the wicked spiritual forces in the heavenly world, the rulers, authorities, and cosmic powers of this dark age“ (Ephesians 6:12, GNT).

“our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavens.”

(NET)

”our wresting is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world’s ruler’s of the darkness of this age, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.”

(WEB)

The fighting, the struggle, the wrestling is truly against Satan and the demons.

Don’t be surprised or caught off guard when those evil entities accuse you. The devil is a liar and the father of lies (John 8:44).

 

[PGS11]

What do you mean the blood line or the faith clearly he is a Israelite from the royal bloodline of David Adam to Jesus and they were celebrating Passover at the last supper pretty strange for a non Jew to do this.Israel is a bloodline first and then a faith.You can't be a true Israelite without the bloodline but you can practice the Jewish faith and be a Jew.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

There are members of the Board who believe that Jesus was not a Jew

Those peoples are totally ignorant of scripture... or they choose to reject scripture!

Lots of that going around in these last days where many come claiming to be of the Lord but teach false doctrine in order to deceive many as they are servants of the devil.

the Bible makes a really strong case that He was not

Actually satan's deception... claim Jesus was not a descendant of Abraham, God's chosen people

Jesus is a Jewish monotheist.

Does this mean Jesus doesn't accept the Father or the Holy Ghost???

the apostles - who are all Jewish monotheists, not trinitarians

The Apostles don't accept the Father or the Holy Ghost???

You have thus far not put up a persuasive rebuttal on anything I have posted and the Triune Godhead is biblical.

Just ask 'em this simple question and watch them flounder like... well, flounder:

Ever see all the scriptures about the Father?
Ever see all the scriptures about the Jesus?
Ever see all the scriptures about the Holy Spirit?

And then follow up with:

You can't explain away all the scriptures about the Father!
You can't explain away all the scriptures about the Jesus!
You can't explain away all the scriptures about the Holy Spirit!

Then, watch them come up with all these wild stores about how Jesus and the Holy Ghost are not real.

Michael Brown is quoting the Talmuds and the Zohar in his debates

That's why nobody should pay attention to this guy