The Worship Experience - Corporate and Individual - Loud and Quiet

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St. SteVen

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The corporate worship at my church is loud. (the way I like it) Other churches are much quieter.
The worship is also very physical. Raised hands and swaying to the music is common.
Clapping hands and shouts of hallelujah. Also quieter moments seeking to hear God's voice.

Individual worship (outside of church) was something I discovered on my own.
I used to play an instrument on the worship team, but felt like I was missing the worship time.
Due to so much energy spent on following the music and arrangement plan.

To compensate, I put on some worship music at home and had a time of worship. Just me and God.
This helped. Had some powerful times. And eventually I learned how to better enter into worship
while playing on the worship team.

What is your experience with worship?
- Loud or quiet?
- Corporate and personal?
- Liturgical or open-ended?

What works best for you?

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To worhip for me is a very personal thing with him I will sit in my chair listening to worship music and be singing to him with all might hands reaching up as if they cannot go up enough life fills my body his presence surrounds me like a fog my body cannot stop bouncing and dancing the joy is unbelievable I could worship him for all eternity his name cannot be praised enough my love for him cannot be expressed enough the energy that is flowing through my veins is like electricity
This is true worship worshiping in spirit and truth
 
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Another rabbit trail to go down by St. SteVen.

He does like advertising his intentions to mislead the readers.

I worshipped God over the past few months, and it cost me the better part of $20,000 AUD blessing others who are not as well off as myself.

I am not complaining as it was a joy to be able to worship in this manner.

I was in a position to scatter God's seeds of inspiration to enable these people to take root in God's fertile soil. This time was not about me, but about my ability to follow God's leading.
 

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Another rabbit trail to go down by St. SteVen.

He does like advertising his intentions to mislead the readers.

I worshipped God over the past few months, and it cost me the better part of $20,000 AUD blessing others who are not as well off as myself.

I am not complaining as it was a joy to be able to worship in this manner.

I was in a position to scatter God's seeds of inspiration to enable these people to take root in God's fertile soil. This time was not about me, but about my ability to follow God's leading.
what rabbit trail? who is st. steven?
 

Jay Ross

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what rabbit trail? who is St. steven?

You will learn. He is the creator of this thread. He is a universal salvationist promoter claiming that eventually everybody will be saved..
 
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You will learn. He is the creator of this thread. He is a universal salvation promoter claiming that eventually everybody will be saved..
Well I don't know the guy to make any kind of remark but sadly no not all will come to salvation
 

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You will learn. He is the creator of this thread. He is a universal salvationist promoter claiming that eventually everybody will be saved..
Technically, everyone is already saved due to the work of the Atonement on our behalf.
Are you claiming that the Atonement was an incomplete work?

1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

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Technically, everyone is already saved due to the work of the Atonement on our behalf.
Are you claiming that the Atonement was an incomplete work?

1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

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Technically, your statement puts all the burden on Christ and ignores the part each person has to play in their own salvation.

1 John 2:1-4: - Jesus Our Advocate
1 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you will not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate before the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He Himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.​
3 By this we can be sure that we have come to know Him: if we keep His commandments. 4 If anyone says, “I know Him,” but does not keep His commandments, he is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But if anyone keeps His word, the love of God has been truly perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him: 6 Whoever claims to abide in Him must walk as Jesus walked.

We also should consider what is also written in 1 John 4: 7-21: -

1 John 4: 7-21: - Love Comes from God
7 Beloved, let us love one another, because love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. 8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.
9 This is how God’s love was revealed among us: God sent His one and only Son into the world, so that we might live through Him. 10 And love consists in this: not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son as the atoning sacrificed for our sins.​
11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12 No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God remains in us, and His love is perfected in us. 13 By this we know that we remain in Him, and He in us: He has given us of His Spirit. 14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent His Son to be the Savior of the world.​
15 If anyone confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. 16 And we have come to know and believe the love that God has for us. God is love; whoever abides in love abides in God, and God in him. 17 In this way, love has been perfected among us, so that we may have confidence on the day of judgment; for in this world we are just like Him.
18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love drives out fear, because fear involves punishment. The one who fears has not been perfected in love. 19 We love because He first loved us.​
20 If anyone says, “I love God,” but hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. 21 And we have this commandment from Him: Whoever loves God must love his brother as well.

Genesis 122:3 tells us that only those people who inhabit God's fertile soil/field will be blessed by Abraham's descendants.

It seems to me that there is more to the requirements of gaining one's salvation than what you are claiming.

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It seems to me that there is more to the requirements of gaining one's salvation than what you are claiming.
It's not about us. It never was.
I could explain it to you, but you have already decided that I am wrong.
And I'm not interested in arguing.
Technically, your statement puts all the burden on Christ...
Right where it belongs.

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I just wanted to say that while yes we must choose to accept the salvation that is offered to us the burden is solely on Christ because we cannot do it ourselves it has to be in him and with him or else we will fall short and not be renewed in heart.
it is in Christ alone we are saved
 
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