RESCUING THE BIBLE ONLY PEOPLE!!!

[Grailhunter]

What do you even think we are discussing?

Do you want me to copy and paste your posts.
Post 15
Read your post.

 

[Skovand]

Do you want me to copy and paste your posts.
Post 15
Read your post.

Listen. If you want to be taken serious then you have to act like a mature, educated adult. Coming up with wild accusations , then not answering questions other than snarky vague answers is not the way for me to take you serious. I’ve read your long irrelevant posts. I’m not even going to read your next musings if you can’t be specific, show a few lines, tell me how it’s negative or part of a conspiracy theory. I don’t waste time with people who don’t want to be taken seriously. I don’t think you even read my entire post, I think you don’t even know what I’m talking about, I think you’re so confused you don’t even see how me and the other person was disagreeing. I think you got triggered and confused, acted like a kid and are angry that you’re now being asked to be mature. If you can’t, then do whatever you want but know on my end, I’ll simply ignore you. If you want to learn how to be taken seriously, I suggest checking out a place like biblical academia on Reddit and seeing how tough it can be to have to drop cited sources line by line.

 

[Grailhunter]

Listen. If you want to be taken serious then you have to act like a mature, educated adult. Coming up with wild accusations , then not answering questions other than snarky vague answers is not the way for me to take you serious. I’ve read your long irrelevant posts. I’m not even going to read your next musings if you can’t be specific, show a few lines, tell me how it’s negative or part of a conspiracy theory. I don’t waste time with people who don’t want to be taken seriously. I don’t think you even read my entire post, I think you don’t even know what I’m talking about, I think you’re so confused you don’t even see how me and the other person was disagreeing. I think you got triggered and confused, acted like a kid and are angry that you’re now being asked to be mature. If you can’t, then do whatever you want but know on my end, I’ll simply ignore you. If you want to learn how to be taken seriously, I suggest checking out a place like biblical academia on Reddit and seeing how tough it can be to have to drop cited sources line by line.

First off you are way to rude for me to converse with. I am not going to go down that road with you.
Just not worth it.

 

[Skovand]

First off you are way to rude for me to converse with. I am not going to go down that road with you.
Just not worth it.

Good. We are in agreement. We don’t find each other worthwhile. Thanks. A breakup is always better when it’s mutual.

 

[Bob Estey]

But do they want to be rescued?
Do they want a religion of fantasy?

Ya know people like fantasies…..Santa Clause is a popular and comforting fantasy. But deep down they know it is a fantasy.

But what I am talking about is more about false beliefs than fantasies. But still, do Christians want to know deep down that their religion is riddled with false beliefs. Christian beliefs should not be full of false beliefs.

I have spoken a lot about false Christian theological phrases. They are not just incorrect, they are harmful to Christianity and to Christians and have caused a great deal of sin. They have an intent to be harmful because you do not see any that improve Christianity. And they harm both physically and emotionally.

I have also explained that I worship with several different denominations at several churches and whether it is the preacher that preaches Bible Only or some or most of the congregation that are Bible Only, I love them all! I gladly stand and worship with them.

So I am not being insultive, but I believe Christians deserve to know the truth. The truth will reduce sin, as such is the character of truth.

It would seem to me the purpose of the Bible is to introduce us to the Lord. Some don't seem to be interested in getting to know the Lord. I would remind them of this:

[39] You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness to me;
[40] yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. John 5:39-40 RSV

 

[Zachariah.]

Well the issue with your statement is that there was numerous councils overtime that developed numerous bibles. At one time, almost everyone in the known world outside of far East Asian countries were considered Romans. Much like dozens and dozens of American indigenous tribes, descendants of slaves, immigrants from around the world are Americans. Much of the known world were Romans and Greeks as their nationalities, even if their ethnicities were different.

But outside of that well before Romans got their hands on the tanakh it was well established by numerous sects of Jews. That’s the Christian Old Testament. Now concerning the New Testament even there we have different Christian sects that all landed on the same Bible. The coptic Bible, which may predate the Catholic Bible was not influenced by very much Hellenic culture outside the bits we see from Paul in his epistles. Now Paul was a Roman and he wrote many of the epistles. Though some are most likely just written by others and dedicated to the name of Paul.

Even with the various Jewish sects things like source text debates come into play. JPKE type stuff.

I guess I’m not sure why you would presume I am not very aware of the history of the Bible, of many different bibles and councils, and redactions including in the development of most forms of Christianity like Manicheists, some forms of Mithraic pagan Christianities and as it spread into far east Asia , where things like the Mani Sage xians developed we say scriptures such as possibly in the Bhavisya Purana or in things like the Neptic collections and commentaries of the Philokalia.

Secondly I’m honestly not sure what part of my statement you were countering. Your comment read as a counter argument, but tone can be misjudged and I’m not sure what the rebuttal would have been towards?

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Iether way, it was done through the Roman church which we all know

You do a bit of research. It is a common misconception that the Ecumenical Councils picked the biblical canon. They simply adopted a popular list.

On the other hand, as time went on the Catholic Church actively destroyed Gnostic and heretical texts.

But just because a text did not make it into the canon, that did not mean that the Catholic Church considered them heretical. A good example is the Shepherd of Hermas, which was a very popular text.

No knowlage or text is heretical or evil in nature. Only those who wish to control what you know and think lable certain texts heretical. And those within the Christian community that reject this knowlage also have been brainwashed and propergate the dogma of evil.

 

[Grailhunter]

Iether way, it was done through the Roman church which we all know

No knowlage or text is heretical or evil in nature. Only those who wish to control what you know and think lable certain texts heretical. And those within the Christian community that reject this knowlage also have been brainwashed and propergate the dogma of evil.

Free to look at all information is a good thing.

Early on the Catholics were afraid people would read things and believe different than what the Catholic Church taught. The words heretic and heresy are Catholic words.

The Roman Catholic Church wanted to be the only faith….So world domination is what the Catholics and the Romans had in common. So they believed that all must believe what the Catholic Church told them…..keeping in mine that Catholic Church did not allow there congregations to have a Bibles. They were to believe what they were told, and they were not allowed to read it themselves.

The Christian religion was a shock to the Romans. The Greco-Romans were highly educated over a variety of things…..which included architecture and science and philosophy…..And they develops some of the most advanced system of laws in that time period. They thought themselves so intelligent that it elevated them to a higher species of human.

Christianity was not technically advanced and it is not a religion of laws….it is a way of thinking …..THE WAY…..A way of thinking is a philosophy. Except the Christian philosophy is highly moral.

But the Romans had not considered morality. The most highly advanced empire ….civilization on earth had not considered moralality a significant thing. That is why their languages did not contain words about morality and of course they did not consider Yahweh and Yeshua and the Holy Spirit. So when the Apostles wrote the New Testament they had to develop Christian Greek….which was the practice of taking Greek words and adding moral definitions to them. I usually use the example of the roman word for sin, which means you missed your target…..arrow or spear…..no moral implication. The Christians took the word and added the definition of transgression against God.

Which brings me back around to my original point, which is, we should have the freedom to look at all writings and evidence at a academic level, but do not let that information talk you into being immoral or into idolatry. Morality saves your life and morality stabilizes society and at the root of that is Christ who saves your soul.

 

[Skovand]

Iether way, it was done through the Roman church which we all know

No knowlage or text is heretical or evil in nature. Only those who wish to control what you know and think lable certain texts heretical. And those within the Christian community that reject this knowlage also have been brainwashed and propergate the dogma of evil.

Except I just shown where not all of it was.

 

[Zachariah.]

Free to look at all information is a good thing.

Early on the Catholics were afraid people would read things and believe different than what the Catholic Church taught. The words heretic and heresy are Catholic words.

The Roman Catholic Church wanted to be the only faith….So world domination is what the Catholics and the Romans had in common. So they believed that all must believe what the Catholic Church told them…..keeping in mine that Catholic Church did not allow there congregations to have a Bibles. They were to believe what they were told, and they were not allowed to read it themselves.

The Christian religion was a shock to the Romans. The Greco-Romans were highly educated over a variety of things…..which included architecture and science and philosophy…..And they develops some of the most advanced system of laws in that time period. They thought themselves so intelligent that it elevated them to a higher species of human.

Christianity was not technically advanced and it is not a religion of laws….it is a way of thinking …..THE WAY…..A way of thinking is a philosophy. Except the Christian philosophy is highly moral.

But the Romans had not considered morality. The most highly advanced empire ….civilization on earth had not considered moralality a significant thing. That is why their languages did not contain words about morality and of course they did not consider Yahweh and Yeshua and the Holy Spirit. So when the Apostles wrote the New Testament they had to develop Christian Greek….which was the practice of taking Greek words and adding moral definitions to them. I usually use the example of the roman word for sin, which means you missed your target…..arrow or spear…..no moral implication. The Christians took the word and added the definition of transgression against God.

Which brings me back around to my original point, which is, we should have the freedom to look at all writings and evidence at a academic level, but do not let that information talk you into being immoral or into idolatry. Morality saves your life and morality stabilizes society and at the root of that is Christ who saves your soul.

Modern day Christianity is basically catholicism. I know there are varying differences but the most of the dogmas and ridiculous beliefs are the same. That's because the romans infiltrated the faith of true Christianity and obfuscated it. What we have today is a romanised Christianity.

 

[Grailhunter]

Modern day Christianity is basically catholicism. I know there are varying differences but the most of the dogmas and ridiculous beliefs are the same. That's because the romans infiltrated the faith of true Christianity and obfuscated it. What we have today is a romanised Christianity.

The Roman thing is not true. Not that thing are perfect, but the Romans are dead and buried.