Israel

[quietthinker]

Now you are talking rubbish and unbiblically.

If you think I'm talking rubbish and am unbiblical Jay, you either don't understand the role of priests or you haven't thought through the implications of your own statements in post #70

 

[Carl Emerson]

How about we come back to the topic...

Those who would support building a third temple - would you support building a Hindu temple in Jerusalem. If not what is the difference?

 

[quietthinker]

How about we come back to the topic...

Those who would support building a third temple - would you support building a Hindu temple in Jerusalem. If not what is the difference?

So the choice is between benny hin do ...or is it ju do. I s'pose in time it'll be sheep do or pigeon poo.

 

[Jay Ross]

If you think I'm talking rubbish and am unbiblical Jay, you either don't understand the role of priests or you haven't thought through the implications of your own statements in post #70

I did not pen post #70, you did.

 

[quietthinker]

I did not pen post #70, you did.

Apologies Jay, it was post #57. As you said, post #70 was my reply to your post #57

 

[Jay Ross]

Jesus in Luke 14:28-30, speaks of a tower/temple being built during this present time which goes like this: -

Luke 14:28-30: - 28 For which of you, intending to build a tower/temple, does not sit down first and count the cost, whether he has enough to finish it— 29 lest, after he has laid the foundation, and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, 30 saying, ‘This man began to build and was not able to finish’?​

This action on the part of Israel in the land of Canaan will trigger the kings of the earth descending upon the Nation of Israel to stall the rebuilding of the temple, by assembling at Armageddon in a last ditched effort to destroy Israel. But their arrival will be outside of the allocated 2,300 years of the prophecy in Daniel 8 and instead of being able to trample God's earth hosts, Israel, God will instead judge the kings of the earth on the earth and the heavenly hosts in heaven and will gather those judged and imprison then in a pit for many days to await the time of their punishment. (Isaiah 24:21-22)

What follows this judgement is Pauls prophetic words in Romans 11:25b-26a which basically translates as: -

Until the fullness with respect to the allocated time of the Gentiles trampling God's sanctuary and His earthly host is completed, then after that, all of Israel will be saved.​

Then there will be a period of 1,000 years of peace upon the earth because the five beasts of Daniel 7:1-12 and Satan will be imprisoned in the Bottomless pit during this time.

Then there will be a period after the Bottomless pit is unlocked for a little while period that there will be great tribulation upon the earth.

Where are we at this present time? We are around 20 years out from when the end of this present age ends and the Judgement of the heavenly hosts and the kings of the earth at Armageddon will occur.

After Armageddon God will hear from heaven and will begin gathering Israel to Himself.

The return of Israel to the Land of Canaan in 1948, without any help from God, in other words they returned to the Land of Canaan in their own strength without God's help. The year 1948 heralds the budding of the fig tree and gives us the timespan between 1948 and the beginning of the 7th age, with all the required information encapsulated within the single verse of Matthew 24:32.

What happens in around 20 years around the start of the seventh age from now: -

1. The judgement of the kings of the earth at Armageddon and their subsequent imprisonment in the Bottomless pit.
2. The judgement of the heavenly hosts in heaven, at the same time as the judgement of the kings of the earth, and the imprisonment of Satan, the four beasts and the Litle Horn/false Prophet in the Bottomless pit.
3. The gathering of the Israelite to God after the Armageddon event where God has said that He will plant them in his fertile soil and teach them about the religion of Israel.
4. The foundation stone, untouched by human hands comes down from heaven to then become the largest mountain in all of the earth.
5. The Son of Man being given dominion over all of the peoples of the earth such that they should worship Him
6. God establishing His everlasting Kingdom and Giving that Kingdom to the Son of Man to have dominion over.

Shalom

 

[Jay Ross]

Apologies Jay, it was post #57. As you said, post #70 was my reply to your post #57

It seems to me that you did not understand what I had penned in #57 and turned to your usual replacement theology.

 

[quietthinker]

It seems to me that you did not understand what I had penned in #57 and turned to your usual replacement theology.

I see you are side stepping and do not want to tackle my claims in post #81.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Whopper alert!

Fake news alert.

come on man, anyone who has been to Israel knows they are still deep into Judaism. they are praying to a wall that belongs to the old fort antonia for Christ's sake. Stop being ignorant of this fact to try to keep your belief system in tack.

Quote my "lie"!

where do i start. Maybe by saying Israel is not still in sin today. thgat they still have not cried blessed is he who came in the name of the lord. You claim I did not know they were again made a state in 1948.. Where do I stop??

You should read your own posts!

Or maybe you should read them

I think you should repent for attacking Israel.

I am not attacking Israel. I am stating the facts about Israel. I am exposiong a person who does not know much about Israel or prophecy however. and he does nto like it. so he is attacking me

No Scripture? Of course you don't!

Good God. I spoke of romans 11. i spoke of Ez 37. just 2 in fact that say when Christ will return. how israel had repented. and will not continue in her sins anymore.

They are still in sin my friend.

Won't do the Israel identity thieves and good!

You're attacking Israel and playing the victim! Just like Satan's Dems!

No. I am attacking you. (I said something else. But I am going to delete it. because it may be taken wrong.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

How about we come back to the topic...

Those who would support building a third temple - would you support building a Hindu temple in Jerusalem. If not what is the difference?

Once again

IT WILL BE BUILT

does it matter of we support it or not?

When God says something will happen. do we question God. or do we do as sadly many do. and say it will never come true. or it is spiritual?

 

[Jay Ross]

Post #57

Sorry QT, but you are trying to put words in my mouth as if I have dismissed the authority of Jesus, Paul and John as well as other NT authors and insisted that the OT writers had a flawless paradigm.

What Amos was pointing to, was a time in our near future, when Israel will become a Kingdom of priests, a Holy Nation and God's possession among the nations such that the Israelites in our near future until the end of the seventh age will be a blessing to all of the peoples of the earth as they demonstrate and show that God wants all people to inhabit His fertile fields/soil.

The OT passage from Amos 9 which I paraphrased above is consistent with what is presented in the NT.

You need better arguments to support your apology rebuttal.

Post #81

If you think I'm talking rubbish and am unbiblical Jay, you either don't understand the role of priests or you haven't thought through the implications of your own statements in post #70

QT, I have fully thought through the implications of my post #57 fully and understand the significance of what I had posted.

Perhaps you are not as well versed.

 

[Truth7t7]

Revelation 11-18 is a written prophetic Testament to Roman Catholic apostasy, perfidy, and intolerance over that period.

Revelation chapter 11 has to do with (Two Prophets) representing God on earth, they will bring literal plagues just a Moses/Aaron against pharaoh of Egypt

These (Two Prophets) will have literal physical bodies that die, they will lay dead in a literal street in Jerusalem where Jesus was crucified, as a literal world watches in celebration of their death exchanging literal gifts

The 3rd woe in the 7th angel sounding is the end of this world that sees the final judgment taking place in verse 18 below

Revelation 11:3-18KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

 

[Jack]

Fake news alert.

come on man, anyone who has been to Israel knows they are still deep into Judaism. they are praying to a wall that belongs to the old fort antonia for Christ's sake. Stop being ignorant of this fact to try to keep your belief system in tack.

where do i start. Maybe by saying Israel is not still in sin today. thgat they still have not cried blessed is he who came in the name of the lord. You claim I did not know they were again made a state in 1948.. Where do I stop??

Or maybe you should read them

I am not attacking Israel. I am stating the facts about Israel. I am exposiong a person who does not know much about Israel or prophecy however. and he does nto like it. so he is attacking me

Good God. I spoke of romans 11. i spoke of Ez 37. just 2 in fact that say when Christ will return. how israel had repented. and will not continue in her sins anymore.

They are still in sin my friend.

No. I am attacking you. (I said something else. But I am going to delete it. because it may be taken wrong.

I hope God will forgive you for attacking Israel!

Luke 1:68
68 "Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people,

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Post #57


Post #81


QT, I have fully thought through the implications of my post #57 fully and understand the significance of what I had posted.

Perhaps you are not as well versed.

He does not agree with you. so he will never understand what you are saying

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I hope God will forgive you for attacking Israel!

Luke 1:68
68 "Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people,

I hope God will forgive you for attacking me with your lies.

Dude, get over yourself.

 

[Jack]

He does not agree with you. so he will never understand what you are saying

I understand quite clearly about Israel haters. They're ETERNAL LOSERS!

 

[Jack]

I hope God will forgive you for attacking me with your lies.

Dude, get over yourself.

Quote my LIES! Israel is Home to stay!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I understand quite clearly about Israel haters. They're ETERNAL LOSERS!

well I love Israel, As God said through the apostle paul

Romans 11:
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:

“The Deliverer will come out of Zion,
And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
27 For this is My covenant with them,
When I take away their sins.”

28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30 For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience, 31 even so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God has [h]committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.

1. The fullness of the gentile has not yet been completed.
2. They are still blind in part
3. They are your an my enemy concerning the gospel (they are still looking for their messiah, they have not yet repented and recieved Christ (as a nation)
4. But because of the election. they are to be loved.

one way to love a person or a nation is to speak the truth about them.

One day I pray you find this out.

So call me a loser one more time my friend. Your arrogance is out of hand.. and your a slanderer and a liar!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Quote my LIES! Israel is Home to stay!

I never said they be taken out of Israel now have I? (No)

I just said they have not been fully restored yet (they have not)

so you do not even know what I believe, and are just blabbering

what Lie?

you call me a Israel Hater - Lie
You say Israel has repented or we can not know. which is nonsense and a lie
you have lied multiple times I already posted on some of them, yet you deny them,, do I need to keep posting them until you confess and apologize?

Lower your pride dude. Your making yourself look like an utter fool

 

[Hillsage]

The physical TEMPLE system fulfilled its use of the blood of animals and their temporal dealing with sin for a year.

JOH 2:20 The Jews then said, "It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days?"
21 But he spoke of the temple of his body.

1CO 3:16 Know ye not that YE are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple YE are.

1TI 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

EPH 2:22 In whom YE also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Living under THE CURSE OF THE LAW covenant was ended with the death of Jesus on the cross. The job of the Jewish religion was DONE. God gave physical Israel 70 years to accept the new covenant and the abandonment of the Old covenant. But the stiffnecked never did. God then used Titus to destroy the temple system which was no longer valid. At the death of Jesus, even the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD blew that curtain in two upon leaving the Holy of Holies.

GAL 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us:

IN MY OPINION: I don't believe God will ever allow the Jews of today' to again practice the fulfilled purpose of that religion. I believe that to do so, would defame the promise of God. A promise which was fulfilled in "Jesus THE CHRIST". But if He does allow it, they will truly be practicing "ANTI CHRIST". And the word ANTI has two definitions;

Blue letter bible; Antichrist is translated from the combination of two ancient Greek words ἀντί + Χριστός (anti + Christos). In Greek, Χριστός means "anointed one" and the word Christ derives from it. "Ἀντί" means not only 'anti' in the sense of "against" and "opposite of", but it can also mean" in place of".

The Jews practicing forgiveness of sins from "the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a red heifer" would be guilty of both definitions of ANTICHRIST.