Entering by the Narrow Gate
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amigo de christo
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Sister, I agree with Amigo's answer, which I received as God's wisdom in spirit. Our aim should be nothing less than Jesus Christ. And in line with what he also said, I wonder if men placing on shoulders what might be an unrealistic burden or expectation for most is from the Tree of Knowledge not from the Tree of Life (Spirit of Christ). When people take biblical concepts and handle them in the flesh rather than in spirit, they become a horse of a different colour.
To my understanding there will be greater and lesser in the kingdom of God, as earthly life is a mirror or reflection of the heavenly in some ways ("what may be known of God can be seen in creation")....we each should run the race in sincerity that is set before each, counting the cost. And in my observation, which as far as I can tell is in line with scripture, different people have different battles and different races to run and different callings.......and God doesn't measure things the way man measures/judges. In God's economy, the last will often be first, and the first will be last, so that is something to think about too. If even the apostle John was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, implying he wasn't always in the spirit at all times, it makes me wonder. But I still have a lot to learn, keeping my eyes on the Lord, and am not carving everything in stone. I think we each should be concerned about what is on our plate today, now, seeking to overcome whatever hurdle we may be up against now, and seek to follow the Lord one day at a time.....if we do that, then I believe He is IS leading us to where HE wants us.
amigo de christo
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To the trenches dear sister for the hour grows late and now is our salvation FAR nearer than when we first believed .
The hour comes and now is when a viral strong delusion has come to merge and then to scourge .
to merge the lost as one and to come as one to scourge any and all who resisted the lie and sold not the TRUTH
and conformed not to her ways .
It is GOD who justifies. That there are those who justify themselves I don't doubt. But not everyone who believes by faith that GOD has justified us through faith in the blood of Christ (as scripture does teach) are justifying themselves. Some of us do understand or are learning the difference between what has been so graciously imputed to us and what our just deserts are. We still need to be working out our salvation and be about perfecting holiness in the fear of the Lord. Having entered by the narrow gate, we still need to walk this out on the narrow way. These are not mutually exclusive concepts. It is by revelation that the church understands these things in the first place.
Amen. The elect are justified (have eternal life).
Romans 8:28-33 (KJV)
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose. 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate [to be] conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. 31 What shall we then say to these things? If God [be] for us, who [can be] against us? 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? [It is] God that justifieth.
Rockerduck
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Born again from above Christians know the voice of Jesus and they go to the narrow gate to meet Him. If you are trying to figure it out, you will not find it, because Jesus is the way, the truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John14:6
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Matthew 7
King James Version
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
Strive could possibly mean a Test
I am thinking Antichrist
How only the elect
Pass the test
That would narrow the gate size
That video was nice to listen too
but a fantasy interpretation
I am thinking Antichrist
How only the elect
Pass the test
That would narrow the gate size
That video was nice to listen too
but a fantasy interpretation
For the born again believer our spirit IS in heavenly places through the spirit of Christ that we have received. We have been reconciled/reconnected to God (who is spirit and dwells in heavenly places, ie, in the heavenly spiritual realm) through faith in Christ. Jesus long ago "went away" to prepare a place for us, that where He is (heavenly places) we may be also. In Him, our spirit is where He is, in heavenly places seated at the right hand of God, ruling & reigning with Him according to our faith, whether it be little or great or anything in between, at any time. Through Christ we have the ability to walk by faith which I consider to be pretty well synonymous with walking in the Spirit, but we need to exercise our faith and grow in it. And maybe there is a fuller/deeper surrender to be gained along the way, I'm not discounting that possibility, and seem to be seeing indications of that in some scriptures but for myself am not sure how to approach it yet, whether I'm thinking too "linearly" with those passages or not, etc, so I'm still waiting for illumination and/or correction from the Lord.
First of all, the parable of the ten virgins was to the Jew first....we need to understand what it was saying to Israel under the Law first, and then what it may be saying to the church on another level. And notice the wise virgins brought oil in their vessels with them, while the unwise did not bring any extra oil. But these things are not to be taken too literally.........I believe if we are following/obeying Jesus on the narrow path, counting/paying the cost to follow Him, that is how we are "buying" that oil as we go along...paying a price for it. Those lamps needed to be constantly maintained to be kept burning. Wicks needed trimming periodically, and more oil paid for and added to the lamp. Housewives used to have to get up during the night and tend to their lamp to keep it burning, because that little flame was needed to start a big cooking as well as heating fire for the household in the morning. (They didn't have matches in those days, and winters could get miserably cold so a fire was essential for heat and not just cooking.)
Well, in my observation your way of looking at these things is unspiritual. Whatever the truth is, I'm very sure of this, that it needs to be spiritually discerned, which is not the same thing as the literal, carnal thinking and way of looking at things of the natural man.
amigo de christo
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I have a serious and good reminder for us all dear sister .
And i do pray it stirs us up .
I have often heard people tell me JUDGE NOT
when i say that all must repent to Believe JESUS is the CHRIST .
And the first response by some is HEY you are not GOD who are you to judge other religions .
HERE is the REMINDER SISTER , To which i say
I am not GOD but nor are you and who are YOU TO JUDGE GOD . JESUS SAID they would be damned
if they believed not on HIM . SO my question to us all is this , WHO is gonna now dare to call GOD A LIAR .
SO let us let the words of john remind us .
HE who believes NOT the testimony that GOD gave of HIS SON is calling GOD a LIAR .
SO whose judging . IT AINT ME , i just repeat GODS own testimony , HIS OWN words .
MANY JUDGE GOD sister and they do it through a false love of the world which is REJECTING HIS gospel
his own words .
For those who are actually born from the Spirit (a LOT fewer than those who claim to be), these can be said to be FROM heaven...not in heaven (unless the person returns to Zion after diligently seeking it from the Lord). So you are espousing a theoretical religious status that has no power over sin, the devil and the world.
You are jumping over an entire category of believer. We are reconciled to God through faith in Him...but to be dwelling where He is is at a whole other level...in holiness. The reason why there are no more saints in the church is because of the confusion sowed by the principalities in decoying a religious version of the truth that has no truth...in power.
You would have to let go your own limited understanding and beliefs to have a chance to embark on the journey of faith. The Christ that is fully outside of you is attained through the faith of Christ that is in you. Like a beacon that sends a sailor to a safe port.
LOL. Unspiritualized you mean. Non-imaginative. Non-indoctrinated. My experience is real and spiritual. Those who deny the truth that I speak are both unlearned and unspiritual.
You rely on an imagination that you glean from reading the bible and placing yourself in the text. You call that kind of imagination "being spiritual" And if I call you out on the lack of reality...that makes it seem like I'm the carnal one who refuses to spiritualize and trivialize something from the biblical narrative.
So you have it backwards and upside down. The walk in Zion is real and powerful, but very difficult to attain to as it requires being allowed entry by God Himself. That's REAL spiritual reality at work. But this is so far beyond your imaginative interpretation that it seems like anyone who claims a real connection to God (not requiring religious imagination) must be taking things "too literally". Do you think that Jesus was only figuratively raised from the dead? Or literally? Are people figuratively healed by God, or literally healed?
What about being seated in heavenly places? How far does your figurative evaluation go? A person who is seated in Zion SEES Zion...as well as this world...in juxtaposition. ...as Jesus did. But you will say that is being too "literal" and "unspiritual". Well has Paul said that people will have a "form" (figurative) of godliness, but deny the "power" (literal) thereof. You are so hardened in your dogmatic ideology, you can't hear the gospel, let alone pursue its promises.
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Marvelloustime
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So who is the antichrist, according to 1 John 2:22?
Behold
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Our Faith Elects.
God the Justifies each believer...... based on The Cross of Christ.
Every believer born again has Eternal Life.
Behold
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Absolutely.
Jesus told us.. told everyone........"if you believe in Me,.. i give unto you Eternal life and you shall never go to Hell (perish)".
The antichrist is Satan. The great tribulation has not happened yet. This happens when the Antichrist comes to the earth after being kicked out of heaven.
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 and 4 is still in the future. The “man of sin” is none other than Satan. He will come as the Antichrist and will set himself up in Jerusalem claiming to be God. Many will be deceived and will worship him. The word for “falling away” in the Greek is apostasy.
Revelation 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
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