No puppies and kittens in heaven? - Why not?

[Reggie Belafonte]

You cannot say that with any certainty.
Are animals in need of salvation? If so, under what circumstances?

All creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice,
but by the will of the one who subjected it. (Rom.8:20)

Animals are part of the whole creation that will be restored and brought
into the freedom and glory of the children of God. (Rom.8:21)

Romans 8:20-21 NIV
For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice,
but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope
21 that[a] the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay
and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

[ cc: @Deborah_

Has a cat etc got the Stain of original Sin ? No !
Does such need to be born again ? No !

Who is a cat etc in the immage of ?

You know that i had a good cats and dogs i would say ! but we also had one exceptional Dog and also one exceptional Cat in fact, they stood out from the rest of the average ones ! never had a stupid one, but many are as stupid or good for nothing as they come.

Horses of Cattle anyone ! a good old Bull ? You go walk throug their ! a Nasty bastard Horse that you sure as hell have to look out for or you could be bitten kicked and killed ! Cows that kick at you sideways, some are real nasty when milking them.
I said to a boy don't you dare go and walk behind that horse ever ! and i got abused for saying that by his fool mother, she demands that such are just like humans, if not holds them as better ? she Idolise such !

What about Ants ? Fire Ants ? Mossies ! they are going to be with you in your heaven ?

 

[Lambano]

Are they allowed on the golden streets?
Who cleans up after them?

I was thinking the same thing. When I saw the cartoon below, my first thought was, "Spot has been waiting 45 years to be with you again. Here's a package of 30-gallon Hefty bags; now go inside and pick up 45 years' worth of dog doots."

I think every coat and every jacket I own has a dog poop sack or two in one of the pockets.

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[Lambano]

C.S. Lewis speculated that Mosquito Heaven also exists, and it co-exists in the same space as Human Hell.

 

[MA2444]

I'm a writer. (with a very twisted wit)
Usually lyrical poetry. (song lyrics)

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Oh I didnt know that! So you're kinda kinda like weird Al Yankovich! Just in the literary world.

 

[MA2444]

I think I know the answer to the poop problem being discussed.

I've heard Testimony from I forget who it was but they were taken up to the 3rd Heaven and were being shown around and they saw a fruit tree with fruit on it and immediately wanted one to try it. I forget if it was an Angel or Jesus? Whoever was showing them around heaven but they obviously read their thoughts and said go ahead and try some. So they ate it and he was down to the core and was finished and it was delicious of course. He glanced around wondering what to do with the core, not wanting to be crass or litter in heaven and he was told, just drop it.

And when he dropped it, it disappeared like that. Gone. So you wont be the trash man in Heaven! Like another poster said, I always figured that elimination would be unnecessary in heaven because our bodies will be 100% efficient. Sure we will eat. Fruit trees all over! And a Marriage Supper of the Lamb? I bet there is more on the menu than fruit! And if you think about it....BBQ's arent for eating for survival, it's more about fellowship with friends & family. And hosting one! Why would that be different in Heaven?!

I've never heard a testimony where anyone had to pee or poop in Heaven. I remember one lady was taken up a bunch of times and she had to literally change clothes before they went to certain places and she said Jesus waited on her while she was in the changing room. She didnt mention any toilets being there!

 

[MA2444]

I've also never heard about the TP room in Heaven! Treasure room, Library, body parts room, Room of tears, and many room but no store house for toilet paper!

Scripture says Angels eat with men. Scripture never says, and the Angel went to the Privy!

 

[St. SteVen]

BBQ's arent for eating for survival, it's more about fellowship with friends & family. And hosting one! Why would that be different in Heaven?!

I had a dream that I went to heaven. (that's how I knew it was a dream)

They put me to work right away. I was flipping burgers on an outdoor grill.
To my amazement Jesus walked up to my grill with his plate.
I asked, "How do you like it, Lord?" He gave me a quizzical look and replied,
"Well done, my good and faithful servant. "

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[St. SteVen]

All of creation awaits to be set free. Not just mankind.

That seems to be the best argument for pets in heaven.
They are part of the complete restoration of all things.

Acts 3:21 NIV
Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything,
as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.

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[St. SteVen]

I'm a writer. (with a very twisted wit)
Usually lyrical poetry. (song lyrics)

Most recent work. Mostly collaborations now.

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[MA2444]

I had a dream that I went to heaven. (that's how I knew it was a dream)

They put me to work right away. I was flipping burgers on an outdoor grill.
To my amazement Jesus walked up to my grill with his plate.
I asked, "How do you like it, Lord?" He gave me a quizzical look and replied,
"Well done, my good and faithful servant. "

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Did you really dream that or are you joking?! That's funny! I like it and in a way, that sounds just like Jesus!

Have you ever seen the Movie, The Encounter...?
Bruce Marchiano just nails the Jesus role!

In the movie, 5 people wind up at the last chance diner on a lonely road together and Jesus runs the place. He feeds them all and for free. And serves them Himself, whatever they ask for. .../ I'll stop there so I dont dont give away any spoilers but the character of Jesus really comes out in the portrayal of Jesus by Bruce Marchiano! Great movie, it's free to watch on Tubi

Anyway at one point in the movie Jesus makes the statement, well I am here to serve...


And doesnt scripture say the same thing? Those who would be great in heaven shall serve the least?! So it wouldnt surprise me a bit if Jesus was a waiter at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. He dont have to serve me, I was born to serve Him, nevertheless, how would that make one feel to be served by Jesus Himself?! Wow. Just, Wow.

 

[St. SteVen]

I've also never heard about the TP room in Heaven! Treasure room, Library, body parts room, Room of tears, and many room but no store house for toilet paper!

Scripture says Angels eat with men. Scripture never says, and the Angel went to the Privy!

What do you make of this?

 

[MatthewG]

Hello Steven,

While I am happy for other people with animals and everything like that. I am not a huge fan of owning an animal anymore. They are great comforts for people, but the greatest comfort comes from Yahavah himself.

2 Corinthians 1:3-7 – Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. 5 For as we share abundantly in Christ’s sufferings, so through Christ we share abundantly in comfort too.[a] 6 If we are afflicted, it is for your comfort and salvation; and if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which you experience when you patiently endure the same sufferings that we suffer. 7 Our hope for you is unshaken, for we know that as you share in our sufferings, you will also share in our comfort.

 

[MA2444]

I'm a writer. (with a very twisted wit)
Usually lyrical poetry. (song lyrics)

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I'm sitting here thinking about this a little bit and this explains so much to me about you! Now I have all sorts of context on you and so I prolly owe you an apology I think and I do apologize brother because I have beat you up over your threads here and there and your titles and so forth. I didnt understand where you coming from before!

But if you're a writer, that's something I can wrap my head around because I've read quite a few books and see all of their different styles of writing! So I get you know, lol!

Hey everybody, Weird Al Yankovich got saved!!! and since Weird Al is his old man he wanted a new screen name! And many people have Pen Names and that's ok, I understand that too. I think I also understand that, You are still who you are and so you write the way you do, you just dont identify with Weird Al anymore but rather the Lord.

I'm sorry Brother, you should have said you was a writer sooner! I promise I wont start calling you weird Steve! Lol!

Much Love Brother, God Bless You.

 

[MA2444]

What do you make of this?
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Nothing beyond commercialism perhaps geared to a Christian market? Perhaps because it sounds good, the thought of sitting on a soft cloud?

Eh... What's on sale? That's my brand, lol.

 

[Lambano]

I knew one dude who smoke dope so he could work, said it was to deal with pain in his knees and back !

When I was in college, I had one summer job that involved measuring and counting dots on a piece of paper. No, really; it's true. It was a lab for a company that made photocopiers, and a black dot on white copy or a white dot on black copy was an indicator of a defect in the photoconductor in the copier. We counted the dots and gave the statistics to a better paid college kid who ran them in the computer to generate the quality reports. Boring as hell, but it paid 10% above minimum wage.

So, one day one of my fellow dot-counters called in sick, so the boss reassigned one of the electrical techies to fill in for him. The tech guy tried dot-counting for about half an hour and didn't get through very many test batches. He finally put down the reticle and said, "I can't stand this! I gotta take a break!" He ducked out into the parking lot for about 10 minutes, and when he came back, he was absolutely reeking of weed. But he was a helluva lot more efficient counting dots while stoned to the gills than us kids were straight sober. And he enjoyed it more too.

 

[Lambano]

Hey everybody, Weird Al Yankovich got saved!!!

I think I'll take time out from a lighthearted thread to praise and thank God.

 

[St. SteVen]

I'm sorry Brother, you should have said you was a writer sooner! I promise I wont start calling you weird Steve! Lol!

Apology accepted.

Some of the best things in life are appreciated with an acquired taste.
Do you prefer Beluga or Sturgeon?



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[Skovand]

Hello Steven,

While I am happy for other people with animals and everything like that. I am not a huge fan of owning an animal anymore. They are great comforts for people, but the greatest comfort comes from Yahavah himself.

2 Corinthians 1:3-7 – Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. 5 For as we share abundantly in Christ’s sufferings, so through Christ we share abundantly in comfort too.[a] 6 If we are afflicted, it is for your comfort and salvation; and if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which you experience when you patiently endure the same sufferings that we suffer. 7 Our hope for you is unshaken, for we know that as you share in our sufferings, you will also share in our comfort.

You can easily do both.

 

[MA2444]

When I was in college, I had one summer job that involved measuring and counting dots on a piece of paper. No, really; it's true. It was a lab for a company that made photocopiers, and a black dot on white copy or a white dot on black copy was an indicator of a defect in the photoconductor in the copier. We counted the dots and gave the statistics to a better paid college kid who ran them in the computer to generate the quality reports. Boring as hell, but it paid 10% above minimum wage.

So, one day one of my fellow dot-counters called in sick, so the boss reassigned one of the electrical techies to fill in for him. The tech guy tried dot-counting for about half an hour and didn't get through very many test batches. He finally put down the reticle and said, "I can't stand this! I gotta take a break!" He ducked out into the parking lot for about 10 minutes, and when he came back, he was absolutely reeking of weed. But he was a helluva lot more efficient counting dots while stoned to the gills than us kids were straight sober. And he had enjoyed it more too.

I could never stand to do the wake and bake thing. I seen lots of other guys who woke up to it right before work. I like being clear headed at work, that was making my money and was important to me. There's certain things you can get away with and certain things you shouldnt do. Especially if you are in a Public Service job like I was. Going to different people's homes all day and fixing things. Talking to Customers, are you kidding me?

I never saw any advantage in lying to get a job. When I was learning how to fix furnaces and was riding helper, the company said they needed to hire a new guy that knows how to fix roof top units. They interviewed a few people and one of them said roof top units? No Sweat I know how to fix them, So they hired him. WHat did the guy expect? They sent him out to fix a broken RTU. They put me as his helper and I went with him. I wanted to learn more and thought I was about to. The guy had no clue! I was just learning to fix residential units not RTU's and so I told them that. I cant do it. I've never beein in front of an RTU yet...But the RTU guy they sent me with opened the cover of the unit and just looked at it. He didnt even know where to start! He asked me what I think it is! Now I wasnt familiar with RTU's at all, but I'm not an idiot so I just looked at a few basic things that I knew to look for and boom, I accidently figured it out!

They let that guy go and they tried to make me the RTU guy! I said no! I got lucky. I dont want to want to be embarassed by not knowing what I am talking about.

Customer: SO what's wrong with the unit, it's been two hours?
Me? I dont know...?? No, you still need an RTU guy! So they did luckily as I know now I was right, RTU's can be tricky. I know now how to fix them. They fired that guy who lied and said No Sweat!

Some RTU's are 460 volts! It's not wise to be baked when trying to figure out what's wrong with the RTU? Cant you guys wait until you get home at least?
They called it wake and bake in the morning and they called it It's 4:20 at the end of the day. I've seen guys pack a bowl on a construction site at 4;20 instead of 4:30, or after they get home. I never did do that even once.

The worst thing I ever did I think was on one call I remember it was a key under the mat type of call, no one home, just go in and do the work. But when I walked in all his weed was sitiing out on the coffee table. I was out at the time and I pinched a bud for myself, but I did not take all of it! Just a smidge. Yes I now know it was sinful to do that and without honor. I feel bad about it now. But I was young and didnt walk with the Lord yet.

 

[Lambano]

Do you prefer Beluga or Sturgeon?

I Like a Sturgeon. (Let's see who catches the Weird Al reference.)