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I have never claimed to be a victim. I am a survivor, and an overcomer through Jesus Christ.
Are you telling me that your babies and children have been killed and/or stolen from you for the sake of your testimony in Christ? Have you suffered rapes, tortures, or watched helplessly while your children were?? Have you resisted unto blood? Does your body bear scars obtained for the sake of Christ??
This is not unique to me, but every SRA/MK survivor who has turned to Christ and resisted satan and the cult has this same testimony.
You, and most professing Christians will not stand when real persecution comes, unless you get your eyes off man.
Taken
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You are not tasked to be the keeper of my already sav-ED soul….My Master does that FOR me.
No need to be a “gaslighter”…it makes you disingenuous and a conversation with you superfluous.
IF…yes IF…I “exalted” Trump….that would be MY PLACE to make that claim…not yours.
Glory to God,
Taken
Taken
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STOP…enough is enough…
Not your place to pretend you know or are qualified to speak FOR me…AS IF I require a lecture to esteem God above mankind!!
It is not YOUR place to order me to stop. Remember what I said when true persecution comes to your house.
So sharing my experiences, and my testimony is equivalent to me calling myself a victim according to some. I'm in great company then.
2 Corinthians 11:1-33
[1]Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.
[2]For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
[3]But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
[4]For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
[5]For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.
[6]But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.
[7]Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?
[8]I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service.
[9]And when I was present with you, and wanted, I was chargeable to no man: for that which was lacking to me the brethren which came from Macedonia supplied: and in all things I have kept myself from being burdensome unto you, and so will I keep myself.
[10]As the truth of Christ is in me, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia.
[11]Wherefore? because I love you not? God knoweth.
[12]But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
[13]For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
[14]And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
[15]Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
[16]I say again, Let no man think me a fool; if otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little.
[17]That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.
[18]Seeing that many glory after the flesh, I will glory also.
[19]For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise.
[20]For ye suffer, if a man bring you into bondage, if a man devour you, if a man take of you, if a man exalt himself, if a man smite you on the face.
[21]I speak as concerning reproach, as though we had been weak. Howbeit whereinsoever any is bold, (I speak foolishly,) I am bold also.
[22]Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are they Israelites? so am I. Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I.
[23]Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft.
[24]Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.
[25]Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep;
[26]In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
[27]In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.
[28]Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches.
[29]Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not?
[30]If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities.
[31]The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.
[32]In Damascus the governor under Aretas the king kept the city of the Damascenes with a garrison, desirous to apprehend me:
[33]And through a window in a basket was I let down by the wall, and escaped his hands.
Paul didn't shy away from talking about his trials and sufferings. I will not be ashamed, nor condemned, for doing the same.
2 Corinthians 11:1-33
[1]Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.
[2]For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
[3]But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
[4]For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
[5]For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.
[6]But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.
[7]Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?
[8]I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service.
[9]And when I was present with you, and wanted, I was chargeable to no man: for that which was lacking to me the brethren which came from Macedonia supplied: and in all things I have kept myself from being burdensome unto you, and so will I keep myself.
[10]As the truth of Christ is in me, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia.
[11]Wherefore? because I love you not? God knoweth.
[12]But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
[13]For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
[14]And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
[15]Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
[16]I say again, Let no man think me a fool; if otherwise, yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little.
[17]That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.
[18]Seeing that many glory after the flesh, I will glory also.
[19]For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise.
[20]For ye suffer, if a man bring you into bondage, if a man devour you, if a man take of you, if a man exalt himself, if a man smite you on the face.
[21]I speak as concerning reproach, as though we had been weak. Howbeit whereinsoever any is bold, (I speak foolishly,) I am bold also.
[22]Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are they Israelites? so am I. Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I.
[23]Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft.
[24]Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.
[25]Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep;
[26]In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
[27]In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.
[28]Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches.
[29]Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not?
[30]If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities.
[31]The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.
[32]In Damascus the governor under Aretas the king kept the city of the Damascenes with a garrison, desirous to apprehend me:
[33]And through a window in a basket was I let down by the wall, and escaped his hands.
Paul didn't shy away from talking about his trials and sufferings. I will not be ashamed, nor condemned, for doing the same.
How exactly do you know this? I don't think so myself. What percentage of Trump supporters have you seen worship Trump? You don't think I worship him, do you?
Much love!
Nor is it your place to announce that most Trump supporters will not stand under persecution.
Much love!
Marvelloustime
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Marvelloustime
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It was said in this thread that Donald Trump is a Freemason and others upvoted that .
Does anyone have proof of Donald Trump being a Freemason to offer?
Thank you for the answer .
I think I can speak for the rest of us here when I say go ahead and show us your proof . I would like to see it .
If we hold firm to the gospel steering wheel with our hands steady at 10 and 2 and DO NOT turn on Satan's turn signal , we will not merge . .
I've never even met the man. I don't know anything about him personally.
But I think he's a great choice for president.
Much love!
How many of Trumps supporters have you had opportunity to observe with your eyes as they have been persecuted? 100? 1,000? 1,000,000?
I've not had occassion to observe any myself, but that's just me.
Much love!
So how many Trump supporters have you seen that worship Trump? You didn't answer my question. I still think you are speaking out of turn.
I'm a Trump supporter and I don't worship the man. And whether or not I'm to be persecuted, and whether or not I'll stand or fall being persecuted, has nothing to do with the Trump.
And you have no place to speak otherwise, unless you've got some actual reason. But you and I, we've never even met, so, what would that reason be??
Much love!
I didn't say it has anything to do with Trump as to whether YOU are faced with persecution. I was mocked by "Taken" for sharing what things I have suffered for my stand in Christ.
Exactly. We have never met. I've not met any of you Trumpers on this thread. And you have never met me.
