How can anyone fall for the errors of Calvinism ?

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i have an idea . ask ritanjanice whether she be a calvnist or not . lets see what she says about that .
Don't matter Amigo.
If it walks like a duck.....
etc.

We are called to have an answer for our hope.... 1 Peter 3:15....

How could we have an answer if we can't even admit what we believe?
And after 30 years?!!

If a person believes CALVINIST doctrine...
HE IS A CALVINIST.

End of story.
 

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Your modus operandi RJ.

Nice long verses that MEAN NOTHING to the reader.

You NEVER stop to explain what verses mean.
So your long posts of continuous verses are MEANINGLESS.

It's a wonder to me how anyone can post to you.
You are either totally confused as to what the NT teaches...
or you pretend to be in order to gain attention.

Either one of the above is very unfortunate and, I think, after 30 plus years of being
a Christian....you should be arriving at the point of being sure of what you believe.
Ask me the questions of said scripture, I pray the Holy Spirit will answer through me.?

Plus my dear friend, I’m still waiting for my questions to be answered, that I asked of you?
 

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i have an idea . ask ritanjanice whether she be a calvnist or not . lets see what she says about that .
I am led by the Spirit, and post what I believe the Spirit to be placing on my heart to say and understand.

If it agrees with Calvin, which I did explain to you further up ,Brother, then so be it, the word of God most definitely agrees with some of Calvin’s teachings, no question about it.
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Let the Spirit lead Brother and not all this flesh talk we see/ read.
 
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Dear @GodsGrace ...I am a Born Again, you have yet to understand the difference.
Yes, dear little girl.
Only YOU know what it means to be born again.
NO other Christian on the Board knows the meaning....
Only a select few can know what it means to be born again....
How lucky that YOU are one of them.
Praise God, I’m growing in the Spirit, and not the flesh.
Still on milk?
When are you going to stop growing and act like a fully mature Christian?
Which you should be by now..
I thought you were a new Christian....
You have no excuse for posting Calvinist doctrine and then declaring you're not Calvinist.
That is not very honest of you.
I will continue as the Spirit leads me to post ,in Jesus Name, Amen!

Praise God for the gift of discernment.

Praise God, that my teacher is the Holy Spirit.
Funny....the Holy Spirit teaches EVERY OTHER DENOMINATION totally different doctrine than what He teaches
the reformed.

Yes. Very odd indeed.
I'd question this were it me...
but I'm a mature person and can think reasonably...
Guess you're not there yet.
Maybe in time...another 30 years maybe?
Praise God I’m in the Spirit and 100% recognise the flesh.

Have a lovely blessed day, @GodsGrace .
Paul said to beware a DIFFERENT GOSPEL.
YOU, RJ,,,,are following a DIFFERENT GOSPEL.

My days are blessed because I respect God and honor Him.

Calvinists DO NOT respect or honor God.
They change His nature and His character.

A VERY SERIOUS situation,
I would tend not to do this to the creator of the universe,,,,
God Almighty.
 

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Ask me the questions of said scripture, I pray the Holy Spirit will answer through me.?

Plus my dear friend, I’m still waiting for my questions to be answered, that I asked of you?
You have a long wait, little one.
You do NOT WANT to know the truth but prefer to stay in this languishing situation you're in.
GET OUT OF IT!
Stop following a man and begin to follow the Holy Spirit.
Right now you're following a DIFFERENT GOSPEL....
It is not the gospel of the NT....
The gospel that teaches that God would like EVERY PERSON to be saved.
 

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Born Again through and through, known from day one..a child of God in spirit, just as his word says.

Born of the Spirit, not Born Again by my will, Born Again by the will of God.

Born Again of imperishable seed, a Living seed, that birthed my spirit into Christ.

Hallelujah.Praise God, that Spirit gives birth to spirit..in Jesus Name..Amen!
 

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I am led by the Spirit, and post what I believe the Spirit to be placing on my heart to say and understand.

If it agrees with Calvin, which I did explain to you further up ,Brother, then so be it, the word of God most definitely agrees with some of Calvin’s teachings, no question about it.
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Let the Spirit lead Brother and not all this flesh talk we see/ read.
IF it agrees with Calvin....
you're in a bad state and should do your best to get out of it.

GOD DOES NOT AGREE WITH ANY OF JOHN CALVIN'S TEACHINGS.

You're being explained why very well by @Behold.
But you refuse to listen to him, or me, or others that are explaining the NT to you.

YOU THINK you're listening to the Holy Spirit....but you're listening to a delusion...
to a man that was HERETICAL and is not accepted by even the CC!!
That's how bad his doctrine was.
 

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Yes, dear little girl.
Only YOU know what it means to be born again.
NO other Christian on the Board knows the meaning....
Only a select few can know what it means to be born again....
How lucky that YOU are one of them.

Still on milk?
When are you going to stop growing and act like a fully mature Christian?
Which you should be by now..
I thought you were a new Christian....
You have no excuse for posting Calvinist doctrine and then declaring you're not Calvinist.
That is not very honest of you.

Funny....the Holy Spirit teaches EVERY OTHER DENOMINATION totally different doctrine than what He teaches
the reformed.

Yes. Very odd indeed.
I'd question this were it me...
but I'm a mature person and can think reasonably...
Guess you're not there yet.
Maybe in time...another 30 years maybe?

Paul said to beware a DIFFERENT GOSPEL.
YOU, RJ,,,,are following a DIFFERENT GOSPEL.

My days are blessed because I respect God and honor Him.

Calvinists DO NOT respect or honor God.
They change His nature and His character.

A VERY SERIOUS situation,
I would tend not to do this to the creator of the universe,,,,
God Almighty.
Thank you for your long thought out opinion.x
 

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Amigo,,,,you're another one that needs to make up his mind as to what he beleives.
You give Ritajanice likes and you seem to agree with her posts.
Then you post that you DO NOT agree with Calvinism.
Well,,,Ritajanice is a Calvinist and it's not of any use to her to speak by both parts of your mouth.
She needs to understand that she's a Calvinist and that you DO NOT agree with her.
And, if you DO agree with her, then that makes YOU a Calvinist too and it's time you also came to accept it.

Both systems CANNOT be correct because they OPPOSE each other 100%.
So, we all need to make up our minds here and then stick to it.

I DO NOT believe Calvinism is correct because
1. It is not biblical since its doctrines cannot be found in the NT.
2. It DOES NOT have any good news in it and Gospel means good news.
3. NO Early Christians taught what Calvinism teaches....it is a gnostic and heretical belief system.

So, IF someone wants to believe what John Calvin taught....fine.
But please let's stop beating around the bush and admit what we believe.
my advice is that i would not follow john calvin to even burger king let alone to truth .
but as with anyone they can still mouth certain truths .
You are wise to not heed calvin . But on that note let us not heed them popes either .
or mormonism , or jw
AND NO INTERFAITH LIE that merges them all EITHER . that lie has come of anti christ .
So make my heart have a bit of comfort and let me know you have no part or lott in that finding
common ground interfaith LIE . Man its of death leading only to the second death . DO be encouraged my friend .
Hit the trenches and point to CHRIST till the last breath .
 

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my advice is that i would not follow john calvin to even burger king let alone to truth .
but as with anyone they can still mouth certain truths .
You are wise to not heed calvin . But on that note let us not heed them popes either .
or mormonism , or jw
AND NO INTERFAITH LIE that merges them all EITHER . that lie has come of anti christ .
So make my heart have a bit of comfort and let me know you have no part or lott in that finding
common ground interfaith LIE . Man its of death leading only to the second death . DO be encouraged my friend .
Hit the trenches and point to CHRIST till the last breath .
I don't agree with Calvin.
I don't agree with many teachings of the CC.
I don't agree with interfaith merges since not all faiths believe in the Almighty Creator God.

I know what I believe,,,,I state it plainly....and I stick to it.
I don't claim to not believe what I do believe.
I don't blame the Holy Spirit for believing doctrine that IS NOT biblical.
I've studied under 3 mainline Christian churches and:
I DO NOT BELIEVE IN ANYTHING CALVIN TAUGHT THAT IS IN HIS BOOKS: CALVIN'S INSTITUTINS OF THE CHRSITIAN RELIGION (4 volumes)
I DO NOT BELIEVE A PERSON CAN BE SAVED BY BELIEVING IN BUDDHA, OR ANY OTHER MAN-MADE GOD SINCE THEY DID NOT CREATE THE UNIVERSE.
I DO NOT BELIEVE A PERSON CAN BE SAVED AFTER THEY HAVE DIED.
I DO NOT BELIEVE GOD WILL EVENTUALLY SAVE EVERYONE.

There's plenty more but I think that'll do.
I've been a Christian many years and am SURE of what I believe...
unlike some that have been Christian for many years and cannot even ADMIT to what they believe and blame the Holy Spirit if they have come to some incorrect solution.

The bible tells us to study to make ourselves approved.
And study we must....and stop blaming the Holy Spirit if we have incorrect doctrine floating in our spirit.
 
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Dear @GodsGrace ..May you know the Love Of God, deep within your heart/ spirit...in Jesus Name..Amen!.

Ephesians 3
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The Mystery of the Gospel
1For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for the sake of you Gentiles...a
2Surely you have heard about the stewardship of God’s grace that was given to me for you, 3that is, the mystery made known to me by revelation, as I have already written briefly. 4In reading this, then, you will be able to understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5which was not made known to men in other generations as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to God’s holy apostles and prophets. 6This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are fellow heirs, fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus.
7I became a servant of this gospel by the gift of God’s grace, given me through the working of His power. 8Though I am less than the least of all the saints, this grace was given me: to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ,9and to illuminate for everyone the stewardshipb of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things. 10His purpose was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms, 11according to the eternal purpose that He accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord.
12In Him and through faith in Himc we may enter God’s presence with boldness and confidence. 13So I ask you not to be discouraged because of my sufferings for you, which are your glory.


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The enemy has come to merge
and soon to scourge .
For more info on that rhyme feel free to ask a few questions . The true church in even the western socities
will soon bleed for the faith because it would not conform to the lie of he who merges all under anti christ .
 
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A few of Calvin points of tulip are 100% spot on, and the word of God agrees with them...as per scripture that I posted.

Gods grace and saving power, when he births us in the Spirit, is 100% irresistible, why, because a Born Again was chosen and predestined to become Born of The Spirit.before the foundation of the world, we are disciples of Christ, in the will of the Father, Praise His Holy Name.

Jesus was no robot, he came to do the will of the Father.

We the children of God, we too are not robots, we are in the will of the Father, doing his will all day every day, we are Spirit led.

Submit to the Spirit..he will make your path straight, as his word says, the narrow path is what leads to life, not many find it.


For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Come before him with a pure / sincere heart..he loves that..
 
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The enemy has come to merge
and soon to scourge .
For more info on that rhyme feel free to ask a few questions . The true church in even the western socities
will soon bleed for the faith because it would not conform to the lie of he who merges all under anti christ .
Feel free to ask me questions also.
 
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You have a long wait, little one.
You do NOT WANT to know the truth but prefer to stay in this languishing situation you're in.
GET OUT OF IT!
Stop following a man and begin to follow the Holy Spirit.
Right now you're following a DIFFERENT GOSPEL....
It is not the gospel of the NT....
The gospel that teaches that God would like EVERY PERSON to be saved.
God says that in other places too . WHY will ye die
I DESIRE NOT the death of the WICKED but rather he repent .
GOD actaully does love the world and its why HE DID SEND the SON
so that all who do BELIEVE
so that all who do BELEIVE
So that all who do Beleive
okay its not a skip in the record . allow me to finish it . SO THAT ALL WHO DO BELIEVE IN HIM
would not perish . GOD predetermined HOW to save the world . BY THE VERY CHRIST HE would send
so that all who do BELIEVE would be saved and not perish .
Cause That is HOW GOD chose to save the world . BY the preaching of the gospel , which to many seem as foolishness
but to us who are saved , IT IS THE POWER OF GOD which do save .
I shun intefaith to hades and all its doctrine . Many will soon beleive the lie and from whence they shall all be damned .
HE who rejected the love of the truth whereby they could be saved , THAT BE THE GOSPEL OF JESUS THE CHRIST ,
Will God send strong delusion to believe a lie and to be damned .
AND THOUGH HE DESIRES not the death of any , DAMNED they all will be who rejected JESUS AS THE CHRIST .
 

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A warning to all.

Romans 9​

King James Version​

9 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.
3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.
10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.
27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.
30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
 
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A warning to all.

Romans 9​

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9 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.
3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.
10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.
27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.
30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
read that very last verse . who so ever BELIEVETH on HIM .
now go to and behold what interfaith is doing through its finding common ground . ITS REMOVED THE BELIEVE part .
WOE unto them , they had ran in the ways of darkness and have loved a lie and shall lead all who follow them to the second death .
 

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read that very last verse . who so ever BELIEVETH on HIM .
now go to and behold what interfaith is doing through its finding common ground . ITS REMOVED THE BELIEVE part .
WOE unto them , they had ran in the ways of darkness and have loved a lie and shall lead all who follow them to the second death .
To believe in our spirit, we must be Born of the Spirit.

Faith is a supernatural precious gift from God..the minute it penetrates our heart, it’s Alive and Active in our heart / spirit.
No one can say that Jesus is who he says he is, without his Living Witness, witnessing that truth to our heart/ spirit ,all day every day.

How do we know that Jesus was crucified on the cross, then rose from the dead...?

By the power within us, who has witnessed that truth to our heart /spirit ,the Living Holy Spirit Of course, the moment, Spirit gives birth to spirit.

You can’t know or believe in God, without his crucial witness, the Living Holy Spirit...who should have taken up permanent residence in our spirit, bringing our heart to Gods knowledge./ truth..without the Spirit, I am but an empty vessel, void of God, I know nothing without the Spirit and am nothing...

We fellowship with God in our spirit my friend, not our flesh...some have to understand the two differences.

This isn’t a popularity contest Brother, on who gets the most likes.

This is about standing on the word of God...which I believe I have been doing and continue to do so.

Also remember those who speak in Spirit and truth, their under his protection, no matter how many arrows the enemy sends our way..not one can penetrate ...continue to stand on his word.
 
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to a man that was HERETICAL and is not accepted by even the CC!!
That's how bad his doctrine was.

John Calvinism has deceived Billions.

The demonic power that empowers his "Doctrine of Devils", is found in the world and not just in Christianity.

His theology infects, UNBELIEVERS, also.

Unbelievers will say...'""".well, it was all meant to be"..... "my mother died of cancer, and my kids died in a car wreck... it was all meant to be".
See that?
That is JOHN CALVINISM, as HYPER-Calvinism in their HEAD = "its all pre-destined"...

His crazy lies are in Hollywood Movies.....>>"

Doris Day sang, " Hyper Calvinism"..

Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be, (its all pre-destined) the futures not ours to see...)​



This cunning Devil has mind blinded Billions of people.......in the last 500 yrs obo.
 
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YOU THINK you're listening to the Holy Spirit....but you're listening to a delusion...
to a man that was HERETICAL and is not accepted by even the CC!!
That's how bad his doctrine was.
Just to clarify members, I have never read a book of Calvin in my life.

I have recently been looking his teachings up online.

Quite a few of his tulip points..are in line with the word of God.

I..is one that lines up well with the word.

I also agree, that everything I went through in my life, was of God..100%.

He’s in control 100%
 
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