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Not hard to see how people are being led by their emotions....aka the flesh. Just for the record, I'm only too aware of the mess my country is in and have never voted for Trudeau and his liberal government. Voted against him and intend to do so again. Even though I know that things are not going to get better here apart from the church waking up to the mess IT is in and repenting.
Oops, am I misunderstanding.......or are you missing the point of Israel being an ensample to the church.....the church is supposed to take WARNING from all those things which "happened unto to her for our admonition and example", that we not make the same mistakes. But instead, the church IS making the same mistakes and reaping the same judgments.
ChristinaL
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If there is one thing you clearly need to learn its this- Never trust the MSM. If there is only one thing they can be trusted to do, its lie their asses off. And they keep on doing it because they know that there are plenty of dumb stupid gullible morons out there who will complacently accept any sort of swill without question.
And btw its Democrat supporters who cause violence not Trump supporters
Rockerduck
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The Mosaic law is gone and the Jewish teaching is gone. Mark 11:14. Jesus condemned it. Israel was natural and now the church age is spiritual. We learn and teach what Jesus said and did, now, as the body of Christ. The world repeats mistakes. Christians aren't sinless, we just sin less. Jesus said in this world we will sin. Matthew 18:7 NLT. I haven't found a Christian church with believers that makes the same mistakes Israel made. There are plenty of buildings that claim to be a church that has non believers in it making the world mistakes.
amigo de christo
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Here comes a list of words to mind .
HOME . PARADISE , VACATION , RETIREMENT HOME wherein is naught but total joy ,
The day i look foreward too . The Kingdom we are of and one day shall SEE .
I suppose the best way to sum it up is to say these FIVE words .
And when my dear sister sees the word five and words SHE GONNA KNOW exactly what i am talking about
CAUSE WE TALK ABOUT IT A LOT . EVEN SO COME LORD JESUS .
Even So Come Lord Jesus!
amigo de christo
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Amen friend .
But tell me HOW does a love that negates the fact that one must believe in JESUS
and rather it pumps out a false hope that it dont matter if one believes in him , that other religoins
have no need to repent to BELEIVE JESUS is THE CHRIST
HOW do that GIVE GOD THE GLORY . WHEN GOD Himself , his very self testified OF the SON .
And how can anyone give GOD the GLORY if they DENY , DENY the GLORY OF GOD HIMSELF .
WHO is the GLORY of GOD . JESUS CHRIST IS THE GLORY OF GOD . for more info read revelation
IF i were to call GOD a liar , tell me DO I GIVE HIM GLORY .
Now think about this my friend . IF i were to stand and say GOD IS A LIAR . DO THAT give HIM the GLORY .
NO sir .
and now a word .
HE who BELIEVES NOT , take heed that said believes not , THE TESTIMONY that GOD gave OF THE SON
IS , IS calling GOD , GOD HIMSELF a LIAR . they knew amadeus . THE TRUE MEN KNEW THE TRUTH
JOHN had SEEN THE TRUTH . i mean JOHN actually had SEEN the TRUTH .
JESUS IS THE TRUTH , THE FATHER IS THE TRUTH , THE WORD IS THE TRUTH , THE SPIRIT is the TRUTH .
All other religoins no matter how much good works they do , THEY STILL CALL GOD A LIAR
for they believe NOT JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
Now what do you truly THINK GOD would say . WOULD GOD contradict HIS OWN SELF .
Would GOD say , OH it dont matter if you believe or not , MY TRUTH is no better than your truth ,
DID JESUS ON EARTH tell anyone who failed to believe on him
OH its okay , MY TRUTH IS NO better than your truth
DID ANY apostel go around trying to find common ground and ever once give the impression
to anyone , jew or gentile , OH it dont matter if you BELIEVE us or not , OUR TRUTH IS NO BETTER THAN YOUR TRUTH .
NO sir my dear friend . THEY PREACHED THE DIRE DIRE DIRE necessity to beleive JESUS IS CHRIST .
And when men opposed their message , not only did i never once see it recorded , that they said
OH it dont matter , our truth is no better than your truth . IN fact i seen something
that would shock this church age to the very core .
I SEEN JESUS HIMSELF say , WOE UNTO THEE it will be worse for you than ever it was for sodom
I SEEN paul have a man blinded who tried to turn the deputy from the hearing of the faith .
I SEEN JESUS say to his own desciples , IF ONE hears you not , SHAKE the dust off your feet
as a TESTIMONY , not for them , BUT AGAINST THEM .
we better all watch out friend . as for me , folks will call me monster , hater , anti christ and scores of other four letter
words or words to equal the meaning to four letter words , AND ALL FOR WHAT .
WHY do they see me as the enemy , as an anti christ , as hater , as a literal monster
WELL allow me to tell you why . CAUSE I WONT BUDGE a millimeter , a word FROM THE ONE TRUE GOSPEL
FROM THE DIRE reminder THAT ALL MUST BELIEVE and that all other religoins lead only to the second death
BUT THAT for those who BELIEVE in CHRIST , ITS ETERNAL LIFE . that is why i am seen as the monster . and
by grace I WONT BUDGE no matter how hated i am . JESUS saves , no man can save himself .
| Jer 10:23 | O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps. |
| Ro 8:14 | For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. |
amigo de christo
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And now a simple response .
VERY TRUE it is that the way of man is not in himself , it is not in man that walks TO DIRECT HIS STEPS .
AND for as many as are led BY THE SPIRIT , THE SPIRIT , THE SPIRIT of GOD , they are the sons of GOD .
NOW for a simple reminder .
WHO does the FATHER TESTIFY OF , JESUS THE CHRIST
WHO does the FATHER draw one TOO , JESUS THE CHRIST
WHO does the SPIRIT testify of , JESUS the CHRIST .
SO all other religoins are false , DO not have the SPIRIT and are not led of GOD .
THEY are led of a lie , of the flesh and of darkness .
And again... Give God the glory!
amigo de christo
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Allow me a short explanation about me .
You cannot see me but know this and know it well .
There is nothing good in me CEPT THE SPIRIT OF GOD .
you looking at the words of a man who GOD has humbled with HIS LOVELY TRUTH .
Feel free to ask me any question you like to examine me and even correct me if you see error .
Cause the ONLY GOODNESS i have IN ME , came NOT FROM ME , IT CAME TO ME .
Ya looking at one of the worst men ever born to woman
but THANK the LORD and TO THE LORD be all THANKS for HIS MERCY , HIS GRACE
which both led me to CHRIST and changed my heart .
FEEL free to ask me anything .
it wont offend me . FEEL free to point out a fault , it wont offend me .
You looking at a man who has NO HOPE IN ME , MY ONLY HOPE is IN MY GOD and IN HIS CHRIST
who took mercy on this wicked thing and one day long ago HE in mercy drew me to CHRIST
and changed my heart . HE DID that . Not me . No sir , NOT ME . i was worst of worst
and now By HIS grace can see more clearly than ever , EVEN THE EVIL in my own flesh
and BY HIS GRACE , HOW I HATE IT SO . WE dont have to be slaves to sin
AND no lamb loveth a lie . AGAIN THANKS TO GOD .
HAD GOD never drew me , OR IF GOD were to leave me , WELL i would be naught but worst of worst .
BUT THANKS TO GOD i have the both the ability and even the very desire to walk pleasing to HIM
BY FAITH not in me , not in a false religon or mindset , BUT FAITH IN JESUS THE CHRIST . for more info , ask any question you desire .
Indeed, my friend, None Good but God as in Christ in us:
| Mt 19:17 | And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. |
| Col 1:27 | To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: |
Yes, I agree Israel was a kind of natural type/figure for the church. The point is that Israel fell away from the Lord and reaped judgment for it. And now the church is also falling away. Just as prophesied. Will the church escape judgment? ( and the society that once at least professed Christianity but no longer even does that?) What does spiritual judgment look like? It looks like deception/delusion to start with, and whatever comes as a result of it.......the glory of God ultimately departed Israel.....ichabod. We are supposed to take warning from what happened to Israel...bible says these things happened unto them for our admonition.
2Th 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
I find it really interesting that the falling away is LINKED in the above scripture to the son of perdition being revealed.
amigo de christo
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just always remember CHRIST is not in those WHO BELEIVE NOT HE IS THE CHRIST .
But oh yes , oh yes my friend , the only GOODNESS , RIGHTEOUSNESS we have IS OF GOD in CHRIST JESUS .
Brakelite
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I agree with you. For now. However, we are living in the last days. What does prophecy predict for the earth in these last days? Disasters, both natural and man made, pestilence and disease of which COVID was a mild precursor, war, famine, civil disorder and violence such as in the days of Noah. Now what happens when a nation is attacked and its spiritual and physical welfare threatened as in 9/11? What took place in the months that followed 9/11? Many ministers declared such as God's judgment. The result? Churches were packed and laws changed targeting liberty and free speech and freedom of movement. After COVID? Same on steroids right? When they could get to church. What of the future? When disasters are nation wide and are catastrophic in dimension and frequency? Judgements poured out despite so many actions taken by government on behalf of the church to establish righteousness. So then what? People are suffering. And as you say, any change to the constitution would require a grass roots change of major proportions. And that's exactly what the Bible says will take place.
“13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. ”
Revelation 13:13-15 KJV
Unfeigned Bible
Who is the "they" in the above text? Her is a government who is recommending to who, that they should make an image to the medieval union of church and state? Obviously this is a constitutional republican government asking the people... the voters... to approve of a constitutional change to allow for legislation in the context of the prophecy above, enforcing worship. How many constitutional republics do we know of in the world today?
Brakelite
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It's the same everywhere in the west. The US, Canada, Australia, NZ, and most of Europe. Politics isn't the answer. Jesus is. And He's coming to destroy the lot. In the meantime our response isn't to convince our enemies to be nice and obey new laws, but to hear the gospel. And if we don't preach the gospel but wage war in parliament and in congress, using carnal weapons in a warfare that is spiritual, our nations are left without hope.
My Church recently held a mission in Papua New Guinea. Hundreds of doctors, dentists, counsellors spent a fortnight offering free medical care throughout the nation. That was followed up by an evangelistic series involving dozens of preachers across the country. 250,000 people were baptised over the following weeks. (And 100,000 not long ago in Rwanda). Now the church is sending in thousands of Bibles and care packages. That's what all churches ought to be doing. Everywhere. Preaching the gospel. Helping those in need. Not involving itself with the kings and queens and presidents and rulers of this world in order to gain political power. Political power does not make up for a lack of spiritual power.
It's good to know there are some places still serious about evangelistic outreach and making it a priority. It looks to me as though the cares of life in this world has choked the fruit in many church groups and politicizing has become the new evangelizing. We need to resist the temptation to look to the left or the right and keep our eyes on the ball and marching and taking ground like the spiritual army that we are supposed to be. Seeking FIRST the kingdom of God and His righteousness.....and trusting God to take care of circumstances as He sees fit.
amigo de christo
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True evangelism does not do as the bad evangelism i see within many places today .
In truth they do not evangelize they do rather the instruction of a socially engineered version of what THEY think is evangelizing .
BOTH the true evangelism and this socially engineered evanglism will speak of doing good works
But the socially engineered one , PREACHES NOT the dIRE NEED to BELIEVE JESUS is the CHRIST
and now it has even led christains to merge with false religoins TO DO THESE So called good works to the poor and etc .
I SEEN a massive snare . But yes sister it is good to see some still do evangelize , though they be few .
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