Trump ~ guilty

[Marvelloustime]

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Those who reject JESUS is the CHRIST shall not know or ever learn TRUTH but are simply always learning yet never able
to come to the TRUTH . Just a friendly reminder to all this morning .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

You are absolutely correct. It's something I've been considering since 2016. The church in America reminds me of Israel and Samuel, and God allowing them to have the desires of their heart. I wrote recently elsewhere on this forum reminding readers of the warnings God gave Israel as they rejected Him as their Lord and asked for a king.
That said, I do believe there are many sincere Christians who believe that voting for Trump is the best thing for their country, and maybe they are right. Personally, if I were a voter in the US, I'd likely vote for him as the better of 2 poor candidates. And certainly, the leftist attacks on marriage, women, free speech, and Christianity in general would have been powerful motivators. But like you, I see a grave danger in some of the proclamations coming from influential Christian ministers, calling Trump the trumpet of God, a prophetic answer to prayer, and vilifying democrats as demons. I see a bad trend in this relationship between the church and the Republican party that can only lead to eventual ruin for both the church and the country. History is written in the blood of victims of every innocent victim of every union of church and state.

You see a bad trend in this relationship between church and republican party that can only lead to eventual ruin for both church
and country .
Good .
CAN you see the relationship between TRUMP who has brought interfaith common ground unto the churches
and the POPE HIMSELF that LEADS IN THAT TOO . We got us a harlot friend .
And many do her work and when i say many i mean ON BOTH SIDES . IT is truly as though there is a HARLOT
who sits very high over the world and has sold her song of love she calleth interfaith finding common ground
to merge the denominations , and the other religoins to merge as one under her shade .
And what i find also so clearly seen about that Harlot is
that her message is anti christ for it has DENIED the dire need to beleive JESUS is the CHRIST
and has sold the mantra that HIS TRUTH is no better than any other religoins truth .
You know what else i find so clear , THE SEAT . what do that number add up too .
WELL then dont marvel at all that the message of interfaith anti christ came of her .
Even wickipedia did not deny that the number of that seat added up to a CERTAIN familar number
i have read about in revelation . IT just tried to down play it by saying no leader has ever claimed that title .
We have us a massive problem , now dont we . Many by troops and by groves are coming
to a harlots message of finding common ground interfaith , headed RIGHT TO THE LIE and under the shade of a HARLOT .
And most folks find it to be a message of love . NOT GOOD .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Those who reject JESUS is the CHRIST shall not know or ever learn TRUTH but are simply always learning yet never able
to come to the TRUTH . Just a friendly reminder to all this morning .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

You see a bad trend in this relationship between church and republican party that can only lead to eventual ruin for both church
and country .
Good .
CAN you see the relationship between TRUMP who has brought interfaith common ground unto the churches
and the POPE HIMSELF that LEADS IN THAT TOO . We got us a harlot friend .
And many do her work and when i say many i mean ON BOTH SIDES . IT is truly as though there is a HARLOT
who sits very high over the world and has sold her song of love she calleth interfaith finding common ground
to merge the denominations , and the other religoins to merge as one under her shade .
And what i find also so clearly seen about that Harlot is
that her message is anti christ for it has DENIED the dire need to beleive JESUS is the CHRIST
and has sold the mantra that HIS TRUTH is no better than any other religoins truth .
You know what else i find so clear , THE SEAT . what do that number add up too .
WELL then dont marvel at all that the message of interfaith anti christ came of her .
Even wickipedia did not deny that the number of that seat added up to a CERTAIN familar number
i have read about in revelation . IT just tried to down play it by saying no leader has ever claimed that title .
We have us a massive problem , now dont we . Many by troops and by groves are coming
to a harlots message of finding common ground interfaith , headed RIGHT TO THE LIE and under the shade of a HARLOT .
And most folks find it to be a message of love . NOT GOOD .

@amigo de christo

 

[Lizbeth]

You are absolutely correct. It's something I've been considering since 2016. The church in America reminds me of Israel and Samuel, and God allowing them to have the desires of their heart. I wrote recently elsewhere on this forum reminding readers of the warnings God gave Israel as they rejected Him as their Lord and asked for a king.
That said, I do believe there are many sincere Christians who believe that voting for Trump is the best thing for their country, and maybe they are right. Personally, if I were a voter in the US, I'd likely vote for him as the better of 2 poor candidates. And certainly, the leftist attacks on marriage, women, free speech, and Christianity in general would have been powerful motivators. But like you, I see a grave danger in some of the proclamations coming from influential Christian ministers, calling Trump the trumpet of God, a prophetic answer to prayer, and vilifying democrats as demons. I see a bad trend in this relationship between the church and the Republican party that can only lead to eventual ruin for both the church and the country. History is written in the blood of victims of every innocent victim of every union of church and state.

Amen. Believers are conflating/confusing/mixing mere politics and practical considerations of administrating political affairs with some kind of holy war. This is idolatry. MIXTURE is NOT of God. It is an ABOMINATION to Him. We are to discern and distinguish between the holy and the common and keep them SEPARATE!

It was the seemingly "good" part of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil that deceived Eve. She saw that it was "good for food" and desired to make one wise. (worldly wisdom is not God's wisdom...the way that seemeth right to man leads to death.)

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen. Believers are conflating/confusing/mixing mere politics and practical considerations of administrating political affairs with some kind of holy war. This is idolatry. MIXTURE is NOT of God. It is an ABOMINATION to Him. We are to discern and distinguish between the holy and the common and keep them SEPARATE!

It was the seemingly "good" part of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil that deceived Eve. She saw that it was "good for food" and desired to make one wise. (worldly wisdom is not God's wisdom...the way that seemeth right to man leads to death.)

This holy war will not and is not just seen in america but it is world wide now .
so few seem to notice the direction the republican party specially under trump is and has led them .
Many on the right can see the errors on the left but cannot see that the agenda has massively infiltrated their own camp .
SO lets all look again at a simple reminder to PROVE THIS .
WHO led the abraham peace accords , religious tolerance act interfaith unto the conservative churches
Trump did . Now he was not alone And the evangelical realm has long been infected with this too .
BUT now the question is , BUT FROM WHENCE DID THIS INTERFAITH FINDING COMMON GROUND mantra
FIRST EMERGE .
BINGO is you said the most liberal progressive ecumincal movement of the RCC .
IT never came FROM TRUMP , only TO TRUMP . we got a massive problem in the house .
HOW do you beleive TRUMP is gonna help USHER In this so called world peace , this so called peace in the middle east .
WELL , what does HE USHER IN , abraham peace accords interfaith common ground .
HIS GOAL IS THE SAME AS IS THE RCC , as is MANY rulers within even all religoins of this world .
ITS THE SAME AGENDA . only the right cannot see it . they know how to sneak things in sister .

 

[Marvelloustime]

This holy war will not and is not just seen in america but it is world wide now .
so few seem to notice the direction the republican party specially under trump is and has led them .
Many on the right can see the errors on the left but cannot see that the agenda has massively infiltrated their own camp .
SO lets all look again at a simple reminder to PROVE THIS .
WHO led the abraham peace accords , religious tolerance act interfaith unto the conservative churches
Trump did . Now he was not alone And the evangelical realm has long been infected with this too .
BUT now the question is , BUT FROM WHENCE DID THIS INTERFAITH FINDING COMMON GROUND mantra
FIRST EMERGE .
BINGO is you said the most liberal progressive ecumincal movement of the RCC .
IT never came FROM TRUMP , only TO TRUMP . we got a massive problem in the house .
HOW do you beleive TRUMP is gonna help USHER In this so called world peace , this so called peace in the middle east .
WELL , what does HE USHER IN , abraham peace accords interfaith common ground .
HIS GOAL IS THE SAME AS IS THE RCC , as is MANY rulers within even all religoins of this world .
ITS THE SAME AGENDA . only the right cannot see it . they know how to sneak things in sister .

@amigo de christo

 

[Lizbeth]

This holy war will not and is not just seen in america but it is world wide now .
so few seem to notice the direction the republican party specially under trump is and has led them .
Many on the right can see the errors on the left but cannot see that the agenda has massively infiltrated their own camp .
SO lets all look again at a simple reminder to PROVE THIS .
WHO led the abraham peace accords , religious tolerance act interfaith unto the conservative churches
Trump did . Now he was not alone And the evangelical realm has long been infected with this too .
BUT now the question is , BUT FROM WHENCE DID THIS INTERFAITH FINDING COMMON GROUND mantra
FIRST EMERGE .
BINGO is you said the most liberal progressive ecumincal movement of the RCC .
IT never came FROM TRUMP , only TO TRUMP . we got a massive problem in the house .
HOW do you beleive TRUMP is gonna help USHER In this so called world peace , this so called peace in the middle east .
WELL , what does HE USHER IN , abraham peace accords interfaith common ground .
HIS GOAL IS THE SAME AS IS THE RCC , as is MANY rulers within even all religoins of this world .
ITS THE SAME AGENDA . only the right cannot see it . they know how to sneak things in sister .

And to think this has been in the heart of fallen man since the beginning. We see it came to a head with Nimrod and the tower of Babel way back, as well. It's the difference between the righteousness of fallen man (self-righteousness and filthy rags to God) and the true righteousness of Christ. We expect it from the world because they don't know Christ, but when believers start to fall back under its spell, that is even worse and so sad to see. AKA falling away...apostasy.

The idea of world peace is a deception in itself.......Jesus said there would be wars until the end. That is like the ideal of ending poverty.....another deception, because Jesus also said the poor you shall always have with you. Our job as the church is to save and rescue souls OUT of this world.....the world itself is not going to be saved and fixed, but only judged.

 

[amigo de christo]

And to think this has been in the heart of fallen man since the beginning. We see it came to a head with Nimrod and the tower of Babel way back, as well. It's the difference between the righteousness of fallen man (self-righteousness and filthy rags to God) and the true righteousness of Christ. We expect it from the world because they don't know Christ, but when believers start to fall back under its spell, that is even worse and so sad to see. AKA falling away...apostasy.

The idea of world peace is a deception in itself.......Jesus said there would be wars until the end. That is like the ideal of ending poverty.....another deception, because Jesus also said the poor you shall always have with you. Our job as the church is to save and rescue souls OUT of this world.....the world itself is not going to be saved and fixed, but only judged.

and now the ulitimate betrayal of all . you wrote of nimrod .
now i shall speak of dimrod .
Dimrod has come to unify this world as one . And far worse than nimrod
who had not yet even heard the gosple
this DIM ROD uses the name of HE who came to save the world
and creates a SPRITUAL TOWER , a spiritual love language of the world
TO call all to build in his strange and diverse tower of many different strange and diverse stones
believing it shall reach to heaven and has omitted the ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN
JESUS THE CHRIST and many peoples religoins and much of christendom NOW BUILD in DIMRODS INTERFAITH TOWER .
believing all stones and their untempered morter shall attain salvation and peace in the world .
IF we think it could be harsh for those under the law who by two or three witnesses could be put to death ,
I GOTTA ASK us all , WHAT DO YOU THINK awaits those WHO TROD JESUS UNDER FOOT
a hint , FAR WORSE a punishemnt awaits those .

 

[amigo de christo]

And to think this has been in the heart of fallen man since the beginning. We see it came to a head with Nimrod and the tower of Babel way back, as well. It's the difference between the righteousness of fallen man (self-righteousness and filthy rags to God) and the true righteousness of Christ. We expect it from the world because they don't know Christ, but when believers start to fall back under its spell, that is even worse and so sad to see. AKA falling away...apostasy.

The idea of world peace is a deception in itself.......Jesus said there would be wars until the end. That is like the ideal of ending poverty.....another deception, because Jesus also said the poor you shall always have with you. Our job as the church is to save and rescue souls OUT of this world.....the world itself is not going to be saved and fixed, but only judged.

yes what nimrod did was evil
but what the jews did was far more evil
as their leaders followed the pattern of nimrod
but what i say to one i say now to all
CHRISTENDOM Exceeds them all . For much of it
now preaches and do as nimrod did , as even the jews did , HINT IT LED TO BOTH THEIR DESTRUCTION ,
and now builds its own interfaith merging tower and does so in the name OF HE WHO IT DENIES .
THIS IS GONNA END REAL BAD . cause bad as nimrod did , and worse did the jews still under the law did
WOE WAIL unto those who used the name of CHRIST , for a far worse punishment awaits them all .
WOW that sounded grave didnt it. Please it sounded like a soft song COMPARED TO WHAT JESUS WOULD have said
OR the apostels . WE GOTS US A PROBLEM in the house . a big one .

 

[amigo de christo]

And to think this has been in the heart of fallen man since the beginning. We see it came to a head with Nimrod and the tower of Babel way back, as well. It's the difference between the righteousness of fallen man (self-righteousness and filthy rags to God) and the true righteousness of Christ. We expect it from the world because they don't know Christ, but when believers start to fall back under its spell, that is even worse and so sad to see. AKA falling away...apostasy.

The idea of world peace is a deception in itself.......Jesus said there would be wars until the end. That is like the ideal of ending poverty.....another deception, because Jesus also said the poor you shall always have with you. Our job as the church is to save and rescue souls OUT of this world.....the world itself is not going to be saved and fixed, but only judged.

It shall be judged and everyone who denied JESUS is the CHRIST
shall be destroyed with the old world .
TIS WHY you have never seen me , and i pray to GOD shall never see me , OFFER UP FALSE HOPE to anyone .
Rather i expose false hope , false love of this world , false unity and all that is contrary to CHRIST and HIS ORGINAL GOSPEL .
WHY do i do this .
DO you believe its cause i hate folks
DO you believe i do as i do cause i want a huge following and love the worship of men . IF that were so
i would have LONG changed my stance, warnings and etc . cause peek around SISTER
and you see how many FOLLOWERS of so called me i have attained .
I DO NOT DO as i do for to be seen and praised of men .
I DO NOT DO as i do for my own recognition and glory .
BY Grace i do as i do FOR THEM . FOR THEM SISTER , though they hate me so , because like them i was the worst
i was lost , BUT GOD SENT GRACE to me the worst of many .
NOW by that grace I SPEAK the TRUTH and GIVE THE ONLY HOPE to man there is , JESUS THE CHRIST .
and boy has it caused a lot of seperation from folks as they put me on ignore
As some even call me hater , anti christ or etc .
YET STILL by grace i do as i do because I STILL DESIRE NOT the death of any but rather LIFE ETERNAL .
true men of GOD are gonna be hated by this world and sadly even much of christendom .
But true men DONT hate back , by grace we keep on doing all by HIS grace to help this people .

 

[MA2444]

You are looking at secular advantages of having Trump as President. I don't blame you. Those benefits 8 years ago were real and worth repeating hopefully. That's certainly worth anyone's vote. I don't think any sane person can deny that. Including Lisbeth. But she is looking at things spiritually. At the connection between Trump and the evangelical church in America. Comparing Trump with John the Baptist as expressed in another thread... leading ministers declaring Trump as a prophetic figure doing God's work. Israel in the OT rejected God in favour of an earthly king, wanting an earthly kingdom. Israel at the time of Christ rejected Christ in favour of Barabus, again, to secure an earthly kingdom. I sense the modern church in America is in danger of repeating history. Attempting to establish righteousness and an earthly kingdom through legislation and politics. Already it has been suggested that one poster here be blocked because she disagrees with your opinion. Is that the way this is going to go down?

It sort of has to on some level because we have to walk upon the earth. We are in the earth, but not of the earth. And I think it's like anything else, dont listen to what they say, watch what they do. I liked what Trump did last term.

I didnt vote for him in 2016. I thought since he was friends with Clintons and even went to Chelseas prom, that He was just helping his friends out in their election. SO I didnt vote.
But I sure did this year! New York said they are going to dismiss all charges against Trump.

 

[BarneyFife]

Oh dear...it dawned on me why the Israelites wanted a king (Saul).....they wanted to be protected by the king and his army from the heathen around them. Not trusting in God. I suspect many might be about ready to make Trump the legal head and defender of their church, like the pope or monarch of England. A state religion? Beware folks. Not accusing anyone here, and God always has a remnant, but many in general....and forewarned is forearmed because no-one is immune to temptation.

Don't sweat it, Sister.

Folks who like to throw terms like TDS around usually have a case of ODS—Opposition Derangement Syndrome.

Your concerns were expressed in an admirably kind and gentle way and yet we have folks hollering for your head.

Contrary to popular belief, there are right-wing counterparts to the extremists we see on MSNBC and TikTok and they're not necessarily always relegated to the fringe.

Case in point:

Alex Jones appeared via Zoom on PBD's Valuetainment election day streaming YouTube podcast (the undisputed champion—290k viewers), and why on the round earth would anyone give that lunatic a springboard for his bilge water?

Any truthful statement he might accidentally stumble over verbally could surely be sourced from someone who wouldn't feel safe and at home in a rubber room.

Barring any unforeseen circumstances (which certainly can't be guaranteed), Mr. Trump will likely do a fine, albeit predictably rude, crude, and socially unacceptable job as the eldest statesman of America for the next four years. The various news outlets suggest that those who have good reason to fear him most are already showing signs of taking notice, tidying up, and making nice.

But naively assuming that he's the saviour of the world—in the self-righteous, compartmentalized MAGA way that mainstream Christianity views that kind of thing—is nevertheless perilously akin to the RUUB "Release Unto Us Barabbas" movement.

YMMV

 

[Aunty Jane]

THIS IS GONNA END REAL BAD . cause bad as nimrod did , and worse did the jews still under the law did
WOE WAIL unto those who used the name of CHRIST , for a far worse punishment awaits them all .
WOW that sounded grave didnt it. Please it sounded like a soft song COMPARED TO WHAT JESUS WOULD have said
OR the apostels . WE GOTS US A PROBLEM in the house . a big one .

I am amazed at the number of “Christians” (particularly in the US) who are up to their necks in politics.….and who come out swinging at the mere mention of the opposition.
Who can stand at a neutral distance and not see that ”democracy” is an illusion? No form of human government tried by any human leaders or dictators down through our history, has ever worked for the good of the people?…only for the good of the leader and his cronies.

”Power corrupts” and this is seen in every nation, no matter what form of government is ruling.
When Israel demanded a human king, God said it was him that they were rejecting, and warned that having a human king would bring with it dire consequences. Israel produced many kings who were corrupted by the power they were given, and these took the people down with them. The whole nation suffered, including the few righteous ones whom God used as his prophets in warning of his anger over their failings and disobedience. They silenced the prophets and suffered as a result of God’s punishments. Humans would keep on doing it…right to “the end”.

So, did history teach them anything? The one thing it should have taught them is that NO form of human rulership can resist the corruption that must come with the power. It was the one thing that God never gave to humans….the power to rule one another…..rulership of the human race was originally God’s sole right. He designed humans to be ruled by himself, no others. And in ruling mankind himself (as he is incorruptible) he guaranteed that his rulership would always benefit them. In taking power for themselves, they have proven beyond a shadow of doubt that putting any faith or trust in human rulers will end in disappointment and ultimately God’s rejection. (Matt 7:21-23) You cannot marry church and state…it is an unholy alliance.

The world and its kingdoms were handed over to satan to prove what we are seeing today, (Luke 4:5-7) and what history should have taught us. “It does not belong to man even to direct his own steps” (Jer 10:23)

Unless we have our faith and trust in God and his Christ, who are “no part” of this world’s rulership (Luke 4:5-7; 1 John 5:19; John 18:36) we will be showing ourselves to be “friends of the world”…..which the Scriptures tell us, make us “enemies of God”. (James 4:4)

Enemies who masquerade as “Christians” will be doubly accountable. Satan is in charge of this world until God throws him into the abyss. Only then will Jesus take over the reigns and bring God’s Kingdom rulership to this earth.….isn’t that what Jesus taught us to pray for? So that God’s will can “be done on earth as it is in heaven”….

It will all end badly because God says it will…..those who put their faith in man will come to grief. Those who put those men in power will also share responsibility for what they do with the power given to them.
Only those who keep out of worldly politics can be acceptable to God, because they support God’s Kingdom, not any man’s. We must live in the world, but we can be no part of its governance. We cannot have a foot in both camps.

When Jesus told us to be “NO PART OF THE WORLD”…..i.e. to be no part of Satan’s rulership….which part did he leave out?

 

[Behold]

”democracy” is an illusion? No form of human government tried by any human leaders or dictators down through our history, has ever worked for the good of the people?…

A Democracy is the best option for a Country, as long at the elected representatives, do not become corrupted by this desire.

"the most important thing, is that i stay in POWER"..

So, this is the beauty of the American System.. .in that it does not allow a sitting President, the power to maintain power, without an end to it.

That is the issue with Russia... and similar, Marxist, Communists, Socialist, Dictatorships...
You get a Leader, and once He's in there, he can use the Media that is "'state controlled" to control what the people are told to think..and FEAR.

and He can continue to kill all the opposition, so that He never loses the position, until He is assassinated.

And that is why "Who Controls the Media", becomes so very imporant, in a country, as if evil people control it, then evil values become perpetrated by the Media as TRUTH..... and that trains the population to believe LIES.

Its a MIRACLE that American's, who are inundated with false media.. whose only purpose is to poison the culture and do the bidding of the STATE...... were able to break free and elect Trump.

That Elon now controls Twitter, (X) means that one huge Social Media site, is not going to do the bidding of the Democrats..

All others do.

FaceBook
Google.
Youtube
Instagram
Yahoo

Tic-Tok, seems to be Internationally controlled.

These others on the list... are Democratic Party : Puppet entities.

 

[Berean]

Oh dear...it dawned on me why the Israelites wanted a king (Saul).....they wanted to be protected by the king and his army from the heathen around them. Not trusting in God. I suspect many might be about ready to make Trump the legal head and defender of their church, like the pope or monarch of England. A state religion? Beware folks. Not accusing anyone here, and God always has a remnant, but many in general....and forewarned is forearmed because no-one is immune to temptation.

Well, you're right about "Not trusting in God" but it wasn't because of the "heathen around them," it was because they didn't want to be different anymore. They wanted to be like everybody else.

"The elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah, 5 and said to him, “You are old and your sons do not follow in your ways; appoint for us, then, a king to govern us, like other nations.” 6 But the thing displeased Samuel when they said, “Give us a king to govern us.” Samuel prayed to the Lord, 7 and the Lord said to Samuel, “Listen to the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected me from being king over them." - 1 Samuels 8-7​

 

[Aunty Jane]

A Democracy is the best option for a Country, as long at the elected representatives, do not become corrupted by this desire.

"the most important thing, is that i stay in POWER"..

No, the desire is for the power itself…that is what corrupts even the those who want to change the status quo for the better….they may have good intentions but at the end of the day, those good intentions are hamstrung by the system that controls it. The President is himself a puppet of the one who is pulling ALL the strings.
1 John 5:19…
“We know that we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.”
What part of “the whole world” is satan not controlling?

What is the assassination rate (or attempts) for Presidents in the US? 4 years is apparently too long for some…..

So, this is the beauty of the American System.. .in that it does not allow a sitting President, the power to maintain power, without an end to it.

The “beauty” of any system is the benefit it brings to the people….who can truthfully say that any system of human government that has been tried, has actually succeeded? There is no “beauty” in any system for the people…only for the rulers who are richly rewarded for their positions rather than their achievements. Under their watch, the rich get richer….but the poor are treated like drones.…slaves.

Democracy is the last attempt by man to appear to gain control by the fairer rule “of the people”……it is a fitting description of the world situation when the last remaining kingdom in power rules….before the coming of God’s Kingdom…..Daniel’s prophesy on the end times fits it perfectly….

Daniel 2:41-43….
“And just as you saw the feet and the toes to be partly of clay of a potter and partly of iron, the kingdom will be divided, but some of the hardness of iron will be in it, just as you saw the iron mixed with soft clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom will be partly strong and partly fragile. 43 Just as you saw iron mixed with soft clay, they will be mixed with the people; but they will not stick together, one to the other, just as iron does not mix with clay.”

This is what democracy really means….the strength of the rulers in power is undermined by the will of the people so that you never have a government that is for “all the people, all the time”…as the saying goes, “you can please some of the people some of the time”….a democracy only allows some of the people to support that governing power, only to have it overturned at the next election in the hope of better government by the other side…but it never comes! The never ending treadmill just perpetuates this ridiculous situation…..it is the same in my country and many others……is this the way God designed the human race to function? Did he plan to allow the devil world rulership so that there would be never ending conflict over who is fit to govern? Corruption is everywhere….it’s a by product.

That is the issue with Russia... and similar, Marxist, Communists, Socialist, Dictatorships...
You get a Leader, and once He's in there, he can use the Media that is "'state controlled" to control what the people are told to think..and FEAR.

and He can continue to kill all the opposition, so that He never loses the position, until He is assassinated.

The media is responsible for all that people believe about a lot of things these days….but it’s nothing new….propaganda has been used throughout human history as a tool for creating that fear you mentioned, but it works both ways….it is also used to lie about the good that these men in power promise, but can never seem to deliver….the power that controls the world is much higher than any worldly government.
Eph 6:11-13…
”Put on the complete suit of armor from God so that you may be able to stand firm against the crafty acts of the Devil; 12 because we have a struggle, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places. 13 For this reason take up the complete suit of armor from God, so that you may be able to resist in the wicked day and, after you have accomplished everything, to stand firm.”

There is the warning….
“we have a struggle, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places”…
Those are the devil’s minions, no matter what face or label they wear.

And that is why "Who Controls the Media", becomes so very imporant, in a country, as if evil people control it, then evil values become perpetrated by the Media as TRUTH..... and that trains the population to believe LIES.

Yes but political lies are almost an expectation….religious lies OTOH are easier to swallow when one pretends to be “an angel of light” hiding a cloak of darkness. That is the lie that leads to alienation from the true God by substituting a false one, so long ago that no one notices that the God of the Jews is no longer the God of the Bible…..he is the god of Christendom….a foreign god to anyone who really knows the God and Father of Jesus Christ…..because this is a salvation issue, our eternal life or death is in the balance. (John 17:3)

Its a MIRACLE that American's, who are inundated with false media.. whose only purpose is to poison the culture and do the bidding of the STATE...... were able to break free and elect Trump.

Or they have swallowed the lies and propaganda again and actually expect this man to do what only God’s Kingdom can accomplish. Perhaps he even sees himself in that role…..but God’s Kingdom is not saving mankind politically, it is no part of man’s rulership as Jesus said. (John 18:36)
It is completely separate.…just as the “wheat” are completely separated from the “weeds” in this “time of the end”.….the harvest is about to begin…..are we ready?

These others on the list... are Democratic Party : Puppet entities.

They are all puppets…..it’s an illusion that one side is better than the other…..all work for the same boss. Only one entity is pulling all the strings. He’s got the whole world in the palm of his hand….all except those who know the truth and are completely separated from any connection to it.

 

[Berean]

I am amazed at the number of “Christians” (particularly in the US) who are up to their necks in politics.….and who come out swinging at the mere mention of the opposition.

That's only the half of it Jane. Here in the states, we have the Liberals (Democrats) and the Conservatives (Republicans), there are others, but these are the big two. Dems, cry out for tolerance, BUT they are the most intolerant of people. This election, if you listen to all the rhetoric from the Dems is all about women's rights and abortion. That one issue constantly comes up. I listen to a gentleman coming out of the polls when asked who he voted for, he said Kamala Harris. He said "I voted for my daughter and my future grandchildren." In essence, he was voting against having future grandchildren since he wants his daughter to have an abortion any time she's like.

Then you have the MAGA Republicans, who put Trump on a pedestal, believing he was sent by God to save America, as if America was blessed by God. Saying "God Bless America" doesn't make it so.

Ironically both sides believe Trump is prophesied in Scripture. Republicans see him as a sort of Cyrus the Great, while the Democrats see him more as the antichrist. LOL

I love politics, I love seeing the hypocrisy and pointing it out to both sides. My interest in politics is only to see where we are in God's Divine Plan.

Now I believe you're in Australia. Are you familiar with Sky News Australia? The host is Rita Panahi. If you go to YouTube and search for Sky News Australia, look up the segments on "Lefties Losing It." They're hilarious.

 

[Brakelite]

Remember, first comes the natural and then the spiritual. The O.T. was symbolic for us. Saul was natural and David was spiritual. Esau was natural and Jacob was spiritual. Ourselves were natural sinners, then we became spiritual. First Cain then Able, etc. None of that is true in the church age of Grace. God controls it all. Let go and let God do His job and don't doubt.

Babylon the Great, is the church age of grace spiritual apostasy. A counterfeit Christian global movement aligned with the kings of the earth, all committing spiritual adultery. Consider carefully who may be a part of that, and if necessary, come out of her.