So Anne Frank and all other dead Jews are burning in Hell forever, right?

[PGS11]

The bible also says the Jews will be saved when they recognizes Jesus in the end as the savior rejecting the Antichrist.The Antichrist wants Gods holy land and Israel to bow before him as the ultimate insult to God it not about you there is much higher things going on Its personal with Satan his anger and hatred for God.You are not part of that unless you want to join him and many will.That's the part that people don't want to see there is a much bigger picture going on here.The Jews will be saved the bible says so read it.

 

[PGS11]

The old testament says that the people the Israelite's do not eliminate at Gods command would become a thorn in the side of Israel until the last day.Which would be Palestine today. Read it its right there in the bible google it and it has come back to haunt them.It a punishment from God for not doing it.

 

[NotTheRock]

You can play Jewish all you want, and you can play Buddhist because it doesn't matter. The Gospel has been preached to the world. Missionaries have traveled the world for 300 yrs. The Jews received the Gospel first and the majority refused it then and even today. Go to a synagogue and tell them about Jesus and see what happens.

Huh? I'm just trying to understand. So Hitler gassed the Jews and then Jesus did the rest by hideously burning them alive forever. Ok thanks. I just wanted to be sure.

 

[NotTheRock]

The bible also says the Jews will be saved when they recognizes Jesus in the end as the savior rejecting the Antichrist.

Verse?

 

[NotTheRock]

The old testament says that the people the Israelite's do not eliminate at Gods command would become a thorn in the side of Israel until the last day.

Verse?

 

[Rockerduck]

Huh? I'm just trying to understand. So Hitler gassed the Jews and then Jesus did the rest by hideously burning them alive forever. Ok thanks. I just wanted to be sure.

Jesus didn't do a thing. Satan is the God of this world, and this world does all the evil in it. Its unseen by our eyes. Look what Jesus said.
Luke 13:1-5 - There were present at that season some who told Him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. 2 And Jesus answered and said to them, “Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things? 3 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. 4 Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”

You have to accept Jesus to be His own people. All those who reject Jesus perish.

John 10:27-30 - My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”

 

[Bruce-Leiter]

I'm just wanting to confirm my understanding of mainstream Christian beliefs. All Jews who die a Jew are sent to Hell to burn forever, correct?

I don't know. The reason is that I don't know whether or not they accepted Jesus before they died. I leave it in God's hands; I'm not their judge; God is.

 

[NotTheRock]

Jesus didn't do a thing. Satan is the God of this world, and this world does all the evil in it. Its unseen by our eyes. Look what Jesus said.
Luke 13:1-5 - There were present at that season some who told Him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. 2 And Jesus answered and said to them, “Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things? 3 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. 4 Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”

You have to accept Jesus to be His own people. All those who reject Jesus perish.

John 10:27-30 - My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”

Well, Jesus allowed it to happen and thereafter, at least according to mainstream Christianity, Jesus threw all the Jews into a fire where they're being burned alive right now and will be FOREVER, right?

 

[NotTheRock]

I don't know. The reason is that I don't know whether or not they accepted Jesus before they died. I leave it in God's hands; I'm not their judge; God is.

If they died without believing that Jesus is Lord then they are burned forever in Hell, right?

 

[NotTheRock]

You have to accept Jesus to be His own people. All those who reject Jesus perish.

Aren't they thrown into a lake of fire and burned alive forever?

 

[Rockerduck]

Well, Jesus allowed it to happen and thereafter, at least according to mainstream Christianity, Jesus threw all the Jews into a fire where they're being burned alive right now and will be FOREVER, right?

They all, plus the millions killed by Mussolini, and the Titanic, had a choice the accept Jesus and live eternally or die to eternal hell.

 

[NotTheRock]

They all, plus the millions killed by Mussolini, and the Titanic, had a choice the accept Jesus and live eternally or die to eternal hell.

Ok. Thanks for confirming!

 

[Scott Downey]

Verse?

Last couple chapters in Zechariah.

 

[PGS11]

The Apostle Paul explains in Romans 4 that Jews in the Old Testament were saved in the same way we're saved now—they just were saved by looking forward to the Messiah, and we're saved by looking back at the Messiah.

 

[Wick Stick]

lol x100

You can ask the chabad rabbis that i am friends with about that.

Or my Jewish wife and children.........

Or my Jewish friend Mike who i go fishing with almost every week.......

Need more???

Then why do you keep giving conflicting and incorrect information about Judaism? In particular, why are your comments framed as accusations against Jews?

 

[David in NJ]

Then why do you keep giving conflicting and incorrect information about Judaism? In particular, why are your comments framed as accusations against Jews?

accusations against Jews???

When was the last time you read Bible?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

So poor Anne Frank suffocated from gassing and then Jesus threw her into a lake of fire where she's literally been on fire for about 80 years now and it will never end. Right?

No... if Anne Frank decided to not accept Jesus as he Lord and Savior then it is SHE who caused herself to go to hell.

Mainstream Judaism doesn't believe in a hell. Judaism is all about THIS life.

That's why Judaism is false doctrine.... they departed from the Lord and do not teach what God's Word teaches.

there are none that do good.

Under the New Covenant.... that's not true.

Ephesians 2:10
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Being led by the Lord is a good work... and only those that are led of the Lord are God's children

Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Jesus told the unbelieving Jews this word,

John 8:24
Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”

John 8:46
Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me?

Good job!.... Let the Word of the Lord speak for Himself!

 

[Wick Stick]

accusations against Jews???

Yes. You said, "Mainstream Judaism is that all Gentiles burn in hell." That's both incorrect and defamatory.

When called on your BS, you switched up to, "Mainstream Judaism is about Jews being the only chosen ones and Gentiles are to be used for their benefit." That's also false and defamatory.

When was the last time you read Bible?

Today. Go look at my post history. I read the Sermon on the Mount and scanned the entire book of Leviticus today. How'd you do?

 

[David in NJ]

Yes. You said, "Mainstream Judaism is that all Gentiles burn in hell." That's both incorrect and defamatory.

When called on your BS, you switched up to, "Mainstream Judaism is about Jews being the only chosen ones and Gentiles are to be used for their benefit." That's also false and defamatory.

Today. Go look at my post history. I read the Sermon on the Mount and scanned the entire book of Leviticus today. How'd you do?

You're ignorance concerning the Jewish people and what they believe and are involved in, the Gentiles and the Gospel is quite profound.

Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. 4For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments. 6They love the lest places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues, 7greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’ 8But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren. 9Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. 11But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.

13“But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. 14Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation.

15“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.

16“Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘Whoever swears by the temple, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gold of the temple, he is obliged to perform it.’ 17Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that sanctifies the gold? 18And, ‘Whoever swears by the altar, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gift that is on it, he is obliged to perform it.’ 19Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that sanctifies the gift? Therefore he who swears by the altar, swears by it and by all things on it. 21He who swears by the temple, swears by it and by Him who dwells in it. 22And he who swears by heaven, swears by the throne of God and by Him who sits on it.

23“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. 24Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!

25“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and [l]self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also.

27“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

29“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and [m]adorn the monuments of the righteous, 30and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.’

31“Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. 33Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? 34Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, 35that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

37“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! 38See! Your house is left to you desolate;
39for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ”

​

 

[Wick Stick]

You're ignorance concerning the Jewish people and what they believe and are involved in, the Gentiles and the Gospel is quite profound.

Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. 4For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments. 6They love the lest places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues, 7greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’ 8But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren. 9Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. 11But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.

13“But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. 14Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation.

15“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.

16“Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘Whoever swears by the temple, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gold of the temple, he is obliged to perform it.’ 17Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that sanctifies the gold? 18And, ‘Whoever swears by the altar, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gift that is on it, he is obliged to perform it.’ 19Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that sanctifies the gift? Therefore he who swears by the altar, swears by it and by all things on it. 21He who swears by the temple, swears by it and by Him who dwells in it. 22And he who swears by heaven, swears by the throne of God and by Him who sits on it.

23“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. 24Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!

25“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and [l]self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also.

27“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

29“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and [m]adorn the monuments of the righteous, 30and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.’

31“Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. 33Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? 34Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, 35that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

37“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! 38See! Your house is left to you desolate;
39for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ”

I'm not a fan of Pharisee doctrine, either. But if you're going to criticize, your statements have to be TRUE.

Nothing in these verses substantiates your earlier lies.