Ultimately, it's not a matter of who is right and who is wrong... (?)

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Keiw

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Oh you believe in Hell now? lol

You conveniently omitted a very interesting part of Is 44:6.
Isaiah 44:6
6 "Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God.

ONLY God / Jesus is "the First and the Last"!

Revelation 2:8

8 'These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life:

And That is Jesus!


Gee, I wonder why you deceitfully omitted that part. Typical JW Bible TWISTING!

I think you just SHATTERED the irony meter!

What's gonna happen to us Christians?
You twist what is said, as do your religions. YHVH(Jehovah) name is at 44:6--not LORD in Gods real translation. Why do you outright refuse to use Gods real translation with his name back in in over 7000 places? Your religions refuse because it exposes them as false.
Destruction will occur to the wicked-Rev 20: 9---Just as Jesus taught--The broad and spacious path that leads to destruction.
 

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You twist what is said, as do your religions. YHVH(Jehovah) name is at 44:6--not LORD in Gods real translation. Why do you outright refuse to use Gods real translation with his name back in in over 7000 places? Your religions refuse because it exposes them as false.
Destruction will occur to the wicked-Rev 20: 9---Just as Jesus taught--The broad and spacious path that leads to destruction.
YOU omitted the part that says Jesus is God! Very Satanic!
 
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Yes it is sad indeed that gays and JW's lead each other to Hell forever and ever.
 

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YOU omitted the part that says Jesus is God! Very Satanic!
No part says Jesus is God in Gods real translation, only in the translations that are altered to mislead by satans will. Ones who love darkness throw bible truth away to believe error.
Before earth=Psalm 45:7--Jesus has a God--- On Earth=John 20:17--Jesus has a God--- Sitting at Gods right hand=Rev 3:12--Jesus has a God.
Thus the darkness has to teach--God has a God, but the bible is clear there is only 1 God.
 

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No part says Jesus is God in Gods real translation, only in the translations that are altered to mislead by satans will. Ones who love darkness throw bible truth away to believe error.
Before earth=Psalm 45:7--Jesus has a God--- On Earth=John 20:17--Jesus has a God--- Sitting at Gods right hand=Rev 3:12--Jesus has a God.
Thus the darkness has to teach--God has a God, but the bible is clear there is only 1 God.
The JW's NWT is altered by Satan? lol

You don't even know what the JW's NWT says! It says Jehovah / Jesus is the First and the Last! They are the same! You should read it some time.
 

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The JW's NWT is altered by Satan? lol

You don't even know what the JW's NWT says! It says Jehovah / Jesus is the First and the Last! They are the same! You should read it some time.
You will have weeping and gnashing of teeth When Jehovah shows the world-- They will have to know i am Jehovah.
 

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You will have weeping and gnashing of teeth When Jehovah shows the world-- They will have to know i am Jehovah.
Notice how Keiw runs from the JW bible like Satan! He doesn't even know what his JW bible says!
 

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Notice how Keiw runs from the JW bible like Satan! He doesn't even know what his JW bible says!
You know i know exactly what it says--Thus you told an untruth. We know who the Father of untruths are. Repent Jack.
 

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You know i know exactly what it says--Thus you told an untruth. We know who the Father of untruths are. Repent Jack.
Then you know your JW bible says Jehovah / Jesus are "the First and the Last"! The SAME!
 

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Then you know your JW bible says Jehovah / Jesus are "the First and the Last"! The SAME!
Only in your twisted analogy. I showed you Psalm 110:1, quoted at Matt 22:44-The utterance of YHVH(Jehovah) to my Lord( Jesus) sit at my right hand until i make your enemies as a footstool for your feet. simple English Jack-there are 2 beings there 1 is Jehovah, 1 is Jesus-they are not the same. One cannot sit at their own right hand.
So how foolish it is to keep throwing bible truth away just because a JW shows you. All who do will lose Jack.
 

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Only in your twisted analogy.
Have you ever read the JW bible? ONLY Jehovah / Jesus is "the first and the last"!

From the JW bible:

NWT Isaiah 44:6 This is what Jehovah says,The King of Israel and his Repurchaser,j Jehovah of armies: ‘I am the first and I am the last. There is no God but me.l

NWT Rev 2:8 These are the things that he says, ‘the First and the Last,who became dead and came to life again:

Yeah, that's Jesus! The JW bible says so several times that Jesus is God!
 

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Have you ever read the JW bible? ONLY Jehovah / Jesus is "the first and the last"!

From the JW bible:

NWT Isaiah 44:6 This is what Jehovah says,The King of Israel and his Repurchaser,j Jehovah of armies: ‘I am the first and I am the last. There is no God but me.l

NWT Rev 2:8 These are the things that he says, ‘the First and the Last,who became dead and came to life again:

Yeah, that's Jesus! The JW bible says so several times that Jesus is God!
Jesus was first and last in a few things, but he is not Jehovah. Yes Isaiah told you-Jehovah is God. You know the one who sent Jesus=he did not come himself( John 17:3) oh sorry, it takes believing Jesus over twisted errors i already know every trinitarian on earth outright refuses to believe Jesus over the errors. I have been kicked out of trinity sights for posting what Jesus teaches, and those teachings are in every translation on earth. There will be no excuse.
 

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Jesus was first and last in a few things, but he is not Jehovah. Yes Isaiah told you-Jehovah is God. You know the one who sent Jesus=he did not come himself( John 17:3) oh sorry, it takes believing Jesus over twisted errors i already know every trinitarian on earth outright refuses to believe Jesus over the errors. I have been kicked out of trinity sights for posting what Jesus teaches, and those teachings are in every translation on earth. There will be no excuse.
You're twisting the JW Bible as usual! You conveniently left out THE!
NWT Rev 2:8 These are the things that he says, ‘the First and the Last,who became dead and came to life again:

And in the same context Jesus called Himself "the Almighty"! Fits perfectly!
 
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I have been kicked out of trinity sights for posting what Jesus teaches,
For calling our Bible Satanic errors like you do here maybe?
 
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You're twisting the JW Bible as usual! You conveniently left out THE!
NWT Rev 2:8 These are the things that he says, ‘the First and the Last,who became dead and came to life again:

And in the same context Jesus called Himself "the Almighty"! Fits perfectly!
Yes he became THE first and last sent to earth from heaven, killed, resurrected and returned to heaven. That is what the scripture is showing.
Jesus is NEVER called Almighty.
 

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For calling our Bible Satanic errors like you do here maybe?
No, i started a thread 8 teachings from Jesus-- they said-Jesus never taught that, yet all 8 teachings are in every translation on earth. Those teachings expose the false religions thus they won't believe Jesus.
 

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Jesus is NEVER called Almighty.
Rev 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ!
Rev 1:8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End," says the Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."
Rev 1:18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore.
Rev 2:8 things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life:
Isaiah 44:6
"Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God.
 

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No, i started a thread 8 teachings from Jesus-- they said-Jesus never taught that, yet all 8 teachings are in every translation on earth. Those teachings expose the false religions thus they won't believe Jesus.
I've read nearly 40 English translations and they all say Jesus is God and Hell is FOREVER! Glad you didn't 'teach' me!
 
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Jesus is NEVER called Almighty.
Incorrect.

. Revelation 1:8
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End," says the Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."

This passage from Revelation is often seen as describing Jesus, especially considering that in Revelation 22:13, Jesus uses the same phrase, “I am the Alpha and the Omega” to refer to Himself. The parallel between these verses supports the interpretation that Jesus is identified as the Almighty.

2. Revelation 19:15-16
"Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS."

In this passage, Jesus is clearly the one being described as ruling the nations and executing judgment. His title, “King of Kings and Lord of Lords,” is one of supreme authority, and He executes the wrath of Almighty God, which suggests His unity with the Almighty.

3. Isaiah 9:6 (NKJV)
“For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”

The title “Mighty God” given to the coming Messiah (Jesus) is highly significant. The Hebrew word here is El Gibbor, meaning "Mighty God" or "God the Warrior." While this is not the exact term Almighty (El Shaddai in Hebrew), it does point to Jesus’ divine omnipotence and authority.

4. Colossians 2:9-10
"For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power."

This passage indicates that Jesus possesses the fullness of deity, including God's power and authority. While the term "Almighty" is not used directly, the description implies that Jesus holds total power and authority over all creation.

5. John 10:30
“I and My Father are one.”
This verse points to the unity between Jesus and the Father, meaning that whatever attributes are true of the Father (including His omnipotence or almighty nature) also apply to the Son.

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Rev 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ!
Rev 1:8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End," says the Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."
Rev 1:18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore.
Rev 2:8 things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life:
Isaiah 44:6
"Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God.
Rev 1:8= Jehovah-- There are 4 who speak in revelation--Jehovah, Jesus, John, an angel.