IS THE REFORMED FAITH BIBLICAL?

[Johann]

I responded to you...
I looked at the link.
It was to Leighton Flowers.
I agree with everything LF teaches.
Don't know what else to say.

Glad to know.

J.

 

[amigo de christo]

Where are you @Christian Soldier ?

TIME to solider up my friends .
Always remember when a man values the opions of men rather than THE TRUTH , that man will surely fall .
Opinons of men do not matter and we are not entitled to them either .
Let our opinoin be IN AGREEMENT with TRUTH and from that we can truly help the other .
I watched a wicked circle jerk get done years ago within the church .
this circle jerk began with a man teaching a concept , he quoated a scrip .
THEN he asked everyone , ONE by one what do they believe that srip meant .
What i saw would terrify anyone who had been of the faith way back in those days .
I SEEN this .
First lady answered and she gave an answer . TO which the leader of said group said very good .
The second man answered and he gave an answer to which the leader of said group said , vERY Good i never seen it that way .
Now this went around the group . and every time one answered not one time did the leader say , HEY wait
that is not correct . RATHER it was very good etc .
GUESS what . DID YOU KNOW that not even did most of them answer it wrong
but even their own answers contradicted each others answer .
THAT RIGHT THERE was the beginning of the great down fall as new age concepts had entered into the church .
OH i am sure it had entered in before that .
BUT today most folks now seem to beleive , well its okay if one has this opinion or that opinoin .
THEY GOT DUPED FRIEND . we aint GOD . and the ONLY RIGHT answer IS THE ONE THAT IS TRUTH .
but that was over twenty five years ago . Man has seeker friendly and other tatics TOTALLY
led to the entire reconstruction of antoher christendom that now has no idea what it has lost
yet alone that it is LOST . its bible time again is what i say and i say that to ALL .

 

[GodsGrace]

TIME to solider up my friends .
Always remember when a man values the opions of men rather than THE TRUTH , that man will surely fall .
Opinons of men do not matter and we are not entitled to them either .
Let our opinoin be IN AGREEMENT with TRUTH and from that we can truly help the other .
I watched a wicked circle jerk get done years ago within the church .
this circle jerk began with a man teaching a concept , he quoated a scrip .
THEN he asked everyone , ONE by one what do they believe that srip meant .
What i saw would terrify anyone who had been of the faith way back in those days .
I SEEN this .
First lady answered and she gave an answer . TO which the leader of said group said very good .
The second man answered and he gave an answer to which the leader of said group said , vERY Good i never seen it that way .
Now this went around the group . and every time one answered not one time did the leader say , HEY wait
that is not correct . RATHER it was very good etc .
GUESS what . DID YOU KNOW that not even did most of them answer it wrong
but even their own answers contradicted each others answer .
THAT RIGHT THERE was the beginning of the great down fall as new age concepts had entered into the church .
OH i am sure it had entered in before that .
BUT today most folks now seem to beleive , well its okay if one has this opinion or that opinoin .
THEY GOT DUPED FRIEND . we aint GOD . and the ONLY RIGHT answer IS THE ONE THAT IS TRUTH .
but that was over twenty five years ago . Man has seeker friendly and other tatics TOTALLY
led to the entire reconstruction of antoher christendom that now has no idea what it has lost
yet alone that it is LOST . its bible time again is what i say and i say that to ALL .

I couldn't agree with you more Amigo.
We have a member on here that believes anything is biblical because a couple of verses are taken out of the scriptures.
It's a scary thing to behold.
Does Christianity have no rules or regulations?
We can each decide what Christianity is for our own selves with no regard to what Jesus or Paul or the others wanted to teach?
What can the future bring if we're not cohesive in our belief system and cannot even agree amongst ourselves?
In another post I said that Jews all believe the same; Muslims all believe the same; do Christians all believe the same?
Why not?
What does that say about Christianity?

 

[St. SteVen]

You won't be making my head spin SS.
If you believe the SDA are correct and their teaching is biblical,
I do hope that you worship on Saturday.

Do you have reading comprehension issues?

St. SteVen said:
Do you agree with Seventh Day Adventism?
Their beliefs are VERY biblical.
Few have gone as far as they have to provide a biblical religion.
It's not for me. In fact I argue against it.
But their position is as biblical as mine.

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[BarneyFife]

Do you have reading comprehension issues?

St. SteVen said:
Do you agree with Seventh Day Adventism?
Their beliefs are VERY biblical.
Few have gone as far as they have to provide a biblical religion.
It's not for me. In fact I argue against it.
But their position is as biblical as mine.

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Lol - why would you say that you argued against something you believed was correct? To be fair, you're a slightly odd duck, my Friend. Most folks can't wrap their brain around a view that isn't considered both 'biblical' and correct. ;)

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[St. SteVen]

Lol - why would you say that you argued against something you believed was correct? To be fair, you're a slightly odd duck, my Friend. Most folks can't wrap their brain around a view that isn't both considered 'biblical' and correct. ;)

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I've given this a lot of thought.

Embracing Doctrinal Diversity - Unity in diversity​

In the same way we have learned to understand and respect cultural diversity, we should learn to understand and respect doctrinal diversity. Can Catholics and Protestants respect one another despite our doctrinal differences? (yes) What about Baptists and Pentecostals? (yes) You name it. How...

The potential conceit of doctrinal individuality​

Exploring the many facets of the issues of doctrinal unity and individuality. Issues range from the dictates of religious institutional tyranny on one extreme end of the spectrum, to freewheeling excesses of biblical interpretation on the other extreme end. Seeking balance somewhere in the...

"My doctrinal opinion is true; you're doctrinal opinion is false." - Got it?​

"My doctrinal opinion is true; you're doctrinal opinion is false." - Got it? Say what? Or worse... "Who should I believe, you, or the Word of God?" (in reference to a man-made doctrinal opinion) Basically, playing the "God card" to win a doctrinal argument. "How will you top that?" Why do...

The tyranny of doctrinal unity - "Join or die."​

A follow-up to the two previous topics: https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/would-you-surrender-your-own-beliefs-in-the-cause-of-doctrinal-unity.56191/ Unity of the faith - at what cost? - Do you have the right to allow the Holy Spirit to...

Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of doctrinal unity?​

This is a follow-up to the previous topic: Unity of the faith - at what cost? Link below. Probably the biggest roadblock to Christian doctrinal unity is holding on to the freedom we have to determine our own beliefs. Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of Christian doctrinal...

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[St. SteVen]

I've given this a lot of thought.

The Unity and Division threads - Unified to one topic - Divided by links

Doctrinolatry - tribalism and division in the Body of Christ A follow-up to my Bibliolatry topic. Doctrine becomes an idol when it is used to support tribalism and cause division in the Body of Christ. Since doctrinal unity is impossible, allowing others to hold their own doctrinal opinions may...

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[BarneyFife]

I've given this a lot of thought.

Embracing Doctrinal Diversity - Unity in diversity​

In the same way we have learned to understand and respect cultural diversity, we should learn to understand and respect doctrinal diversity. Can Catholics and Protestants respect one another despite our doctrinal differences? (yes) What about Baptists and Pentecostals? (yes) You name it. How...

The potential conceit of doctrinal individuality​

Exploring the many facets of the issues of doctrinal unity and individuality. Issues range from the dictates of religious institutional tyranny on one extreme end of the spectrum, to freewheeling excesses of biblical interpretation on the other extreme end. Seeking balance somewhere in the...

"My doctrinal opinion is true; you're doctrinal opinion is false." - Got it?​

"My doctrinal opinion is true; you're doctrinal opinion is false." - Got it? Say what? Or worse... "Who should I believe, you, or the Word of God?" (in reference to a man-made doctrinal opinion) Basically, playing the "God card" to win a doctrinal argument. "How will you top that?" Why do...

The tyranny of doctrinal unity - "Join or die."​

A follow-up to the two previous topics: https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/would-you-surrender-your-own-beliefs-in-the-cause-of-doctrinal-unity.56191/ Unity of the faith - at what cost? - Do you have the right to allow the Holy Spirit to...

Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of doctrinal unity?​

This is a follow-up to the previous topic: Unity of the faith - at what cost? Link below. Probably the biggest roadblock to Christian doctrinal unity is holding on to the freedom we have to determine our own beliefs. Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of Christian doctrinal...

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You're just showing off.

:)

 

[Johann]

You're just showing off.

:)

Talk about--

Spaghetti Bolognese

J.​

 

[St. SteVen]

You're just showing off.

Credit where credit's due. - LOL

I'm not just shooting my mouth off. (should we vote?)

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[Christian Soldier]

This is interesting, this paragraph .

What does “ saved by their faith mean”...?.I only understand “ saved” as in, saved from eternal damnation...which can’t happen until our spirit has been Born Again.....I can honestly say I’ve never understood this saved business that many quote, for me in its proper context is...Born Again then we are saved from eternal damnation, the two go hand in hand.....why do so many skip that we must be Born Again in our spirit by the Spirit of God.?

There is no verse in the bible which suggests that anyone is saved by faith. But there is a verse that was spoken to born again believers, which says "for you were saved by grace", but there is no verse that says you were saved by faith. I had to correct you there, before we run with something that is not true.

Gods purpose for saving some for Himself, is not so we can be saved from eternal damnation, (although tat is one of the benefits of being saved).

God elected some for salvation before time began, He knew mankind would fall and become subject to Satan's rule over their lives. He knew that mankind had no hope of being liberated from slavery to Satan, so He elected to save a remnant for Himself.
The reason He chose to save some, is so the elect would glorify Him and enjoy Him forever. So He didn't save me because He saw something in me that He liked.
He saved me to transform me into the image of His Son, so I had to die and receive a new spirit which does the work of transformation in and thorough me. The only thing I bought to the table was a totally depraved wicked heart, in a filthy stinking corpse.

I can assure you that a stinking corpse cannot manufacture faith within itself, then quicken itself to life, then repent to cash in on Gods promise. The false Arminian gospel teaches that corpses come to life all by themselves with no help from God, and that is pure Demonic doctrine.

The reason so many skip the "born again" part is because Jesus confirmed that it's impossible for man to be born again. when Nicodemus asked Jesus "what must I do to be saved" Jesus answered "you must be born again" then Nicodemus replied by stating the obvious and said "that's impossible" and Jesus confirmed that it is impossible for man to be born again, but He went on to say that all things are possible with God.

So salvation is impossible, unless God saves you and that decision was made before time began. God wrote the names of every single person He elected to save and nobody can add their name to His book because it has remained closed since the the time He wrote it.

God elect are saved "by grace" through faith" and that not of themselves lest anyone boast, it is the gift of God. So both grace and faith are received as gifts, they're not something one earns or conjures up within themselves.

 

[Johann]

There is no verse in the bible which suggests that anyone is saved by faith. But there is a verse that was spoken to born again believers, which says "for you were saved by grace", but there is no verse that says you were saved by faith. I had to correct you there, before we run with something that is not true.

Gods purpose for saving some for Himself, is not so we can be saved from eternal damnation, (although tat is one of the benefits of being saved).

God elected some for salvation before time began, He knew mankind would fall and become subject to Satan's rule over their lives. He knew that mankind had no hope of being liberated from slavery to Satan, so He elected to save a remnant for Himself.
The reason He chose to save some, is so the elect would glorify Him and enjoy Him forever. So He didn't save me because He saw something in me that He liked. He saved me to transform me into the image of His Son, so I had to die and receive a new spirit which does the work of transformation in and thorough me. The only thing I bought to the table was a totally depraved wicked heart, in a filthy stinking corpse.

I can assure you that a stinking corpse cannot manufacture faith within itself, then quicken itself to life, then repent to cash in on Gods promise. The false Arminian gospel teaches that corpses come to life all by themselves with no help from God, and that is pure Demonic doctrine.

The reason so many skip the "born again" part is because Jesus confirmed that it's impossible for man to be born again. when Nicodemus asked Jesus "what must I do to be saved" Jesus answered "you must be born again" then Nicodemus replied by stating the obvious and said "that's impossible" and Jesus confirmed that it is impossible for man to be born again, but He went on to say that all things are possible with God.

So salvation is impossible, unless God saves you and that decision was made before time began. God wrote the names of every single person He elected to save and nobody can add their name to His book because it has remained closed since the the time He wrote it.

God elect are saved "by grace" through faith" and that not of themselves lest anyone boast, it is the gift of God. So both grace and faith are received as gifts, they're not something one earns or conjures up within themselves.

Show me TULIP is biblical since I know Calvinists and Hyper-Calvinists are taking a verse here and there neglecting context..

J.

 

[Christian Soldier]

A dead person has freewill, what is a dead person?

Are you saying that no one can search for God in their own hearts/ spirit....even though they may not even know they are doing this, I certainly did,...I was searching for God and I never knew it, not until I became Born Again.

People are searching for God through reading the Bible, Of course they are, whose to say that God isn’t drawing them to Christ by that means?...I’m not saying the Bible gives birth to their spirit, but, the Bible is definitely also a means by which the Lord draws them.

For myself he draw me to Jesus by the searching of my heart, not by ever reading a Bible, never read a Bible in my life, not until the Holy Spirit gave birth to my spirit,” Spirit gives birth to spirit “ and flesh can only give birth to flesh...I believe I was searching my heart for God for many years, he could see my agony throughout my life, those dreadful experiences were drawing me closer to God..by His Living Spirit.....looking back in retrospect.....and may I also say of course she/ he worships the same God as us....just because she doesn’t agree with what we post...doesn’t make her/ he worshipping a different God.....

The one thing that God has taught me these last few months...is not to poo,poo, other people’s beliefs/ testimonies because they weren’t fitting in with my tunnel vision...everyone has their own testimony..and everyone has had their own experience of God...wether by the means of reading the written word .....or like me, and many others like me ........by searching my heart trying to find God.....

I'm not sure what you mean by "a dead person has free will" and then followed by "what is a dead person".

I don't have any opinions about anything in the bible, since God Word was not given for me or anyone else to impose their opinion over what God has said.

A dead person can only do what his nature allows him to, and that is to serve sin and Satan and nothing else, because all dead people are enslaved to sin and Satan.

God told Adam that he would die on the day he ate of that tree which is in the midst of the garden. But most Christians don't believe what God says, they reject Gods Word and impose their word over God, because Gods Word doesn't make any sense to them. They don't believe that Adam died on the day he ate the fruit, so they think Gods tells lies and His Word needs their correction, and they do this throughout the entire bible.

When you impose mans philosophy over Gods Word, you end up with Demonic Doctrine. Gods Word changes His people, His people don't change His Word.

I believe Adam died on the day he ate the forbidden fruit, but I also believe that he went on to live in his spiritual dead state for a further 900 years. This sounds contradictory, but that's because I'm looking at it with a puny little finite mind. But Gods ways are infinitely higher than ours, He is a mystery and we will never get our minds around His ways.
Gods Word told me to simply trust and obey everything He said, and not to ask foolish questions of Him.

Many tried to ask God questions, and His answer is always the same. He said to Job "where were you when I put the stars in the heavens" and He said "I do as I will and who shall give Me council".

I can't have fellowship with those who deny Gods Word, so I'm not rubbishing them, I'm exposing their false doctrine and praying they receive correction. I don't believe in the new age philosophy, where we strive to get along for the sake of peace and unity. Jesus said "I did not come to bring peace to the world, but a sword". The Lord would be angry with me if I spiritually fornicated with those who hold to false doctrine.

 

[BarneyFife]

I'm not just shooting my mouth off.

Why not? I am.

:)

 

[St. SteVen]

Show me TULIP is biblical since I know Calvinists and Hyper-Calvinists are taking a verse here and there neglecting context..

How can using Bible verses to support a doctrine make it unbiblical?

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[Christian Soldier]

I don't see any scripture above.
When a person can't defend their position, they resort to personal insults.

The person that has been indoctrinated by men is you dear sir.
MEN have made up the doctrines of the reformed.

They do NOT go back to the time of Jesus who taught that we can be saved by believing in Him....
Believe means to trust, to follow, to learn.

This is my last reply to you.

Thank you for sparing me from any more of your false Arminian doctrine. And I hope you find a way to escape that terrible Arminian camp, which has you blinded to the truth of the gospel.

I don't see any scriptures to support your opinion, so yeah.....

I know you can't defend your position, so the only thing left to do is run along

 

[St. SteVen]

Why not? I am.

Who's showing off now? - LOL

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[Christian Soldier]

Show me TULIP is biblical since I know Calvinists and Hyper-Calvinists are taking a verse here and there neglecting context..

J.

I can't show you that TULIP is biblical, because it's obvious to me you don't know what the bible says about it to begin with. So it's silly to ask me to show you something which you're not even equipped to examine, you don't even know what TULIP stands for.

You're like a blind man, asking me to show you the Grand Canyon. Can you see how ridiculous your request is

 

[BarneyFife]

Who's showing off now? - LOL

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I got nothin'.

:)

 

[Ritajanice]

God told Adam that he would die on the day he ate of that tree which is in the midst of the garden

What did he mean by die?

As he certainly didn’t die physically did he?

Didn’t they go on to have more children?