How to get God to use you.

[Karl Peters]

It amazes me over and over again how Christians say things like they want God to use them, and yet they don't actually seek Him by faith and listen to Him!

So they go around telling you to do "Good Works" according to your own understanding, as if that is what God wants, but they never actually listen to Him who is omni-present and always standing at the door knocking with Him voice.

And they write telling you that you are into pride because you say He told you to do things and you did them. They obviously didn't believe you and thought that you were like them, just doing what you thought was best and never actually heard Him, like them. Of course that is what they would do, because they don't believe in Him so they do listen to Him so they can't believe anyone saying they heard from Him. It has always been that way, and was why their fathers hung Jesus Christ on some wood standing up, as they do also. To them the Word of God is the Bible which is processed wood with ink on it. They hang Jesus Christ their, though the ink explains that He is the Word of God and their to speak to them. They just can't believe in Him. And is shows, because they don't seek Him nor believe that anyone can hear from Him Today, because they don't. And they are vocal about their foolishness of not listening to Him!

Still, a few get vocal about hearing Him - but too often they are in back rooms or small buildings. And if someone was to do a huge meeting, they would scoff at them. So they write " knowledge about him", instead of knowledge of Him. They say they keep the commands of God but show that they don't believe in hearing Him at the same time. So they have gone back to living by the Law, and fail to realize what is written about that.

Gal 3: 1,2 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

So they don't preach Jesus Christ but the Law, and fail to understand the difference! If they really knew Him they would have understanding, but He is understanding!!

He once told me, "Karl, understanding is understanding that I AM Understanding; understand?"

So I can help them understand but pointing the to Understanding and tell them to listen to Him, but they would get understanding because they won't get words from Him personally!! Instead they continually go back to leaning on their own understanding.

Prov 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And don't lean on your own understanding.

So they claim to have read the Bible and go by it, but they don't believe what they read and turn back to themselves, always! They don't trust the Lord with all their hearts. It is a hard thing to do, to trust the Lord with all your heart. But maybe they could a little? Perhaps at least Today, at some point, they could actually seek the Lord and listen to Him?

No - they have to go back to making it "knowledge about Him: instead of about Him. And they make it about following His commands, but not about man living by every word that comes out of the mouth of God who goes by the name I AM. So they fall into the temptation of the devil who wanted men to live by the stones Moses brought down in the desert instead of about walking and talking with our Lord Jesus Christ Today!

They are a stubborn group, but the Lord ask me, like Eziekiel, to talk to them who should listen to Him but don't. And the Lord made my head like their heads. And He gives me the command to write to them Today, though I have other things I would like to do.

Ezek 3:4 Then He said to me, “Son of man, go to the house of Israel and speak with My words to them.
Ezek 3:7,8 yet the house of Israel will not be willing to listen to you, since they are not willing to listen to Me. Surely the whole house of Israel is stubborn and obstinate.
“Behold, I have made your face as hard as their faces and your forehead as hard as their foreheads.

Mal 2:2 “If you do not listen, and if you do not take it to heart to give honor to My name,” says the LORD of hosts, “then I will send the curse upon you and I will curse your blessings; and indeed, I have cursed them already, because you are not taking it to heart.

People - Just go "Jesus Christ, what do you want me to do?" And listen!!! And the Lord will then indeed be your Lord and He will use you, teach you, and best yet is that you will get to know Him, personally!! You message will then change to telling people to get to know Him, like mine is. And don't worry if you are hung up on the Bible, because He will be using it to teach you from. Yet not only it, because He made all things, didn't He.

He will tell you things like :

HOW MANY BIRDS SING IN THE FOREST? ANSWER: ALL OF THEM WHEN THEY’RE IN THE RIGHT MOOD.

The Word of God is a person, even the Son of whom the Father said, "Listen to Him". And He is really neat to know, as a person, a friend, a Teacher, and your Lord who helps you by giving you personal commands.

They are like written:

2 Tim 3:7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

They will never know Him, the Truth - because they are always trying to "find knowledge about him" instead of trying to find Him. They are trying to live by the commands written down, instead of hearing Him by faith.

 

[Behold]

It amazes me over and over again how Christians say things like they want God to use them,

If you want to "listen to Him" then open a NT and "study to show yourself approved"..
Why?
Because God and Christ are on every page, in every verse.

 

[Karl Peters]

If you want to "listen to Him" then open a NT and "study to show yourself approved"..
Why?
Because God and Christ are on every page, in every verse.

Reading is not listening - of course!!

And concerning the study of the Bible - how do you not know this???

Jn 5:39,40 “You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

If reading the Scriptures was you listening to Him, then the above makes no sense. But sense the above verse is in the Bible, you make no sense!!

And again:

Jn 5:46,47 “For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. “But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”

If reading the writings is hearing from the Lord, then Jesus could not have said as recorded in the NT that His words are not the writings of Moses.

Gal 3: 22 But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

And if reading the Scriptures were hearing the Lord by then the Scripture would be the promise by faith in Jesus Christ, but the above verse explains that is not the case!!

So then are you not like the Jesus spoke to, as recorded in John, and that you are still shut up under sin and not yet found the promise of faith in Jesus Christ?

Saul was on the road to Damascus, have studied the Scriptures extensively, yet went the Lord spoke to Him Saul wound up asking: Who are you Lord. So reading and studying the Scriptures does not mean you know or hear from our Lord Jesus Christ!!! The Scriptures explain this over, and over, and over, and over - so how did you miss all this? Isn't that explained too?

Jn 8:43 “Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot hear My word.

If indeed you were actually hearing from Jesus Christ via His Holy Spirit you would understand what I have been writing you, but as it is you don't understand because you cannot hear His words!!!

That can change, and it could have changed for them to, but it only can change if you repent of your ways and actually seek Him, believing that He is there to speak you via His Holy Spirit!! His words to you are not ink on paper but the Word of God we preach is found in your mouth and in your heart - so you are looking in the wrong place!!! You are looking to ink on paper and not to His Holy Spirit speaking to your spirit - and that is all in the Bible, even the NT because Jesus had to explain it to those religious Pharisees back then too.


Jn 6:63 “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.

Rom 10:8 But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

Or how do you think those who heard form the Lord were able to hear from Him before the sacred writings were written????

So it is useful to read and study the Bible, but if you don't actually believe what you read, how is the reading of them going to help you? You will remain un sin, just like is explain in the Scriptures - which you say you study - so what happened to you? Did you not believe the writings of Moses, like those Jesus spoke to?

 

[Karl Peters]

Now back to the topic of the thread:

If anyone wants to know what the Lord wants them to do, let them seek the Lord by faith and listen to what comes to them!!

Yet if anyone leans on their own understanding instead of seek Jesus Christ and listening to Him, then their salvation will be on them, will it not?

Now He is telling me it is time to wrap this up and head to bed. Good night:)

 

[friend of]

Reader, Soul Winning is the Fruit of the Cross of Christ.
Nothing else you can do, even comes close to comparing.
Thats a fact.

True. I don't know why people insist on arguing in this thread. This is spot on.

 

[Behold]

True. I don't know why people insist on arguing in this thread. This is spot on.

Thank you for reading it.

 

[Karl Peters]

Thank you for reading it.

Is it soul winning if they don't know Jesus Christ after you talked to them?

Or are you looking for disciples for yourself?

 

[Behold]

Is it soul winning if they don't know Jesus Christ after you talked to them?

Soul winning starts in the Heart of the person who wants to lead unbelievers to Christ.

I teach my students this..

"One day, sooner then you expect, you are going to Meet JESUS... .maybe you will be Raptured... or perhaps Hebrews 9:27 will find you.

So, be prepared and always remember this..

Life is short
Soon will pass
Only what's done for Christ, will last.

Or are you looking for disciples for yourself?

If you read my many Threads and posts. i always lead people to Paul's Doctrine.

Philippians 3:17

 

[Karl Peters]

Soul winning starts in the Heart of the person who wants to lead unbelievers to Christ.

I teach my students this..

"One day, sooner then you expect, you are going to Meet JESUS... .maybe you will be Raptured... or perhaps Hebrews 9:27 will find you.

So, be prepared and always remember this..

Life is short
Soon will pass
Only what's done for Christ, will last.



If you read my many Threads and posts. i always lead people to Paul's Doctrine.

Philippians 3:17

It would be nice if you led people to Christ - but since you think that hearing Jesus Christ is reading the New Testament you are not leading them to Jesus Christ but to religion, and that so you can sound l the person who has understanding.

If you yourself knew Jesus Christ and talked back and forth with Him via His Holy Spirit talking to your spirit, then you would hear His words and know that He is a person, even the Son of His Father in heaven who is recorded in the New Testament as saying " “This is My beloved Son, listen to Him!”

So you say to people "One day, sooner then you expect, you are going to Meet JESUS", not knowing the day for all to hear from Him is Today!

So you deceive people into looking for Him at some point in the future and call that "Soul Winning". Do you not know that 'soul winning' is not in the Bible? Your soul is something you have, so you don't have to win it!!!

What a person does have to do is open up to Jesus Christ, and that is done by simply deciding to listen to Him and start having conversations with "Him" - the person we call Jesus Christ! And that is to be done TODAY!! And He is not the scriptures, and you reading the Scriptures is not your listening to Him!! It was people in the pass listening to Him, not you!!!!!

But you don't know Him, or you would know this very obvious fact!!! You are like the Jews whom Jesus Christ spoke to and said:

Jn 5:39,40 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

And so I write you according to the instructions from Him, who told me "Karl, I want you to preach the Word but not as it is so often preached today. I want you to preach I AM the Word of God"

So, I am not trying to win a person's soul, I am trying to keep them and their soul from being thrown into the pits of hell. They already have their soul, what they need is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ by opening up to Him who is just constantly standing there Today, and trying to get them to listen to Him personally!!!

It is written:

Rev 3:19,20 ‘Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent. ‘Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.

Now you reading that verse or any other, is not your hearing from Him!!! It was, at one point in the past, John hearing from Him and then writing down what John heard - but it is not you hearing from Him!!!

If indeed you start hearing from Him, you will know. He tends to call us by name, and He loves us. So I often personally hear Him tell me, "Karl, I love you." I have already heard those words from Him this morning, and I heard those words from Him yesterday, and most other days also. And the first time I heard Him tell me, "Karl, I love you", it caused me to weep as I was driving toward a stop sign, because that was what I was doing when I first heard those words. Those were not the first words I heard from Him. The first words I heard from Him were, "Read your Bible", so I am not against someone saying those words, because He says them. But I am fully against anyone and anytime telling others that reading their Bible is hearing from Him - because it is not!!! That is why Jesus had to tell people that they were searching the Scriptures thinking that was going to give them eternal life, but they were unwilling to actually come to Him!

So I write to those on this Christian forum, which is a place where you find people telling others that reading the Scriptures is hearing from Him, so that I might help them save themselves with their own soul from hell!!!

I am not "soul winning", that is some religious Christianism! I am actually point people to Jesus Christ and trying to get them to actually listen to Him!! That is to say I am preaching the Word of God and that to mean Him, who we all need to be hearing from personally TODAY --- not some time of a rapture in the future!!

Have you never read:

Romans 10:6-8 But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: “DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, ‘WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?’ (that is, to bring Christ down), or ‘WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?’ (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).”
But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

We are not winning souls, because people already have a soul. But we are preaching "“THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”, because He has His Holy Spirit trying to get through to your spirit, NOW - TODAY! But you tell people that the word of God is in their Bible! That is a lie!! And the Bible explains that is a lie!! The Word of God we preach is near us always - and is found in our mouth and in your hearts - so not in the NT, as you wrote and were misleading people to believe!! Try actually believing what you read in the Bible and perhaps then you will indeed seek out Jesus Christ for yourself!!

You will hear Him talk to you personally, so you will have a person testimony about Him!! So you will write to others about how He calls you by name and tells you that He loves you - and so much more - like little of wisdom and other teachings. Have you never heard Him talk to you via His Holy Spirit, and tell you things like this teaching He once gave me:

I was driving down the road one day when sudden the Word of God came to me saying: “KARL, I’M A HOLY GOD.”

That seemed out of character to Him, because I have never heard Him brag.

“I DIDN’T SAY I WAS A HOLY GOD, I SAID I WAS A HOLIE GOD. I HAVE HOLES IN MY HANDS.”

Ha, Ha, Ha – I laughed, I had never thought of Him exactly that way. Then I started to realize I too was one that He went to the cross for, and tears came to my eyes.

“KARL, I HOLD EVERYTHING TOGETHER WITH MY HANDS, SO THE HOLES MY HANDS ARE THE THINGS THAT SHOULDN’T BE THERE; THE MIRACLES, SIGNS, AND WONDERS.”

“IF MAN WASN’T REBELIOUS, I WOULDN’T HAVE THE HOLES IN MY HANDS, BUT IT WAS NECCESARY TO GET HOLES IN MY HANDS TO DRAW MEN BACK TO ME.”

“IF PEOPLE DON’T BELIEVE I WENT TO THE CROSS, WHAT GOOD ARE THE HOLES IN MY HANDS TO THEM?”

“KARL I TELL YOU TRUELY, IF ANYONE DOESN’T BELIEVE IN MIRACLES, SIGNS, AND WONDERS, THEY DON’T BELIEVE IN THE HOLES IN MY HANDS. THEY DON’T BELIEVE I WENT TO THE CROSS. THEY DON’T BELIEVE I AM A HOLIE GOD AND THEY ARE NOT OF ME.”

So I told Him, “Wow, I guess we really tear you up.”

HA, HA, HA – I HEARD HIM LAUGH

 

[Karl Peters]

If you are "leading people to Paul's Doctrine", then you are not leading them to Jesus Christ!!

But a person leaning on their own understanding of Scriptures, instead of actually listening to Jesus Christ, might not understand what Paul was trying to tell them>

Philippians 3:17 Brethren, join in following my example, and observe those who walk according to the pattern you have in us.

What does the above verse mean. Does it mean that we Christians are to go and make disciples for ourselves??????

Some read it and think that is what it means. But the 'us' Paul is referring to are those who hear the voice of their Lord Jesus Christ and do what He tells them personally to do!! For us, real Christians, that is obvious because we actually hear His voice (that small voice of his) speaking to 'us'. Or have we not also read:

Jn 10:4 “When he puts forth all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice.

So there is a "voice", even "his voice", and we know His voice and we follow him!! So we are not even following Paul's doctrine but Him a person, Jesus Christ!!!

So who writes they are "leading people to Paul's Doctrine"????

It is not someone who knows Him, Jesus Christ. Though those who do hearing the Lord's voice, know that Paul's Doctrine is that we need to listen to Jesus Christ personally!!

Gal 3: 1,2 You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified?
This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?

So even Paul had to go back and reprove those who got away from hearing with faith!! And that faith is in Jesus Christ - that He is the Great I AM - even the KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, whom we must listen to and obey!! Yet even the Christians in the past, like the Galatians, turned from hearing the Lord by faith via His Holy Spirit and back to leaning on their own understanding of doctrine!! They because foolish!!!!

 

[friend of]

@Karl Peters it would appear that talking directly back and forth with Jesus Christ has made you a bit proud. That's the way you come off anyway. Puffed up.

 

[friend of]

Like your post #29 for example. I don't believe God Himself said any of that stuff to you about the holes in His hands. You're delusional. @Karl Peters

 

[Karl Peters]

@Karl Peters it would appear that talking directly back and forth with Jesus Christ has made you a bit proud. That's the way you come off anyway. Puffed up.

NO - that is your wrong thinking!!!!!!!!!!

He will take to anyone, but will you talk to Him??? And the answer is No at this point or you would have some understanding!!!!!~!

The person who if full of pride is the person not willing to talk back and forth with Him!!!

That is so because they are choosing to lean on their own understanding instead of listening to God - and Jesus Christ is God and the Word of God who talks to us via the Holy Spirit of God.

So you think I am full of pride, and think you are not - but it is you who lean on your own understanding instead of talking back and forth with the LORD OF LORDS - to get understanding from Him!!!

Have you not read:

Is 1:18 “Come now, and let us reason together,”
Says the LORD,
“Though your sins are as scarlet,
They will be as white as snow;
Though they are red like crimson,
They will be like wool.

Talking back and forth with Him is you reasoning with Him - and let me tell you - you will find out the He is always right and you are not!!!!

That does not lead to pride in yourself, but a zeal for Him!!

And you confuse my zeal for Him as pride, because it is written that as your judge so shall you be judged - and so He knew even from the beginning that you have pride because you don't listen to Him, so He knew you would judge those who being humble actually speak to Him and listen (talk back and forth with Him) So you need to repent or your ways - which is just leaning on your own understanding, so that you might open up to Him speaking to you!!!!

And here is the Good News - He has been standing at the door your entire life just trying to get you to listen to Him!!! And that is applies to ANYONE!!

Rev 3: 19,20 ‘Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.
‘Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.

So get our of your pride which leads you to your own understanding, and get zealous for Him and repent!! Then you too will open up to hearing from Him who has been standing there all along speaking to you and trying to get you to listen to Him. And you should know that He is going to reprove you!!! And He is going to be right and you are going to find out that you are wrong!! But that will lead to giving you better understanding and even more zeal for Him!! That you will tell people to listen to Him!!

And you will also find out that you are extremely poor at seeking Him for advice. You will find that to be true even when you start talking back and forth with Him a dozen different times a day - because that is not taking all thoughts captive to Him!! So I talk to you as someone who has found that out - that my dozen or so different times a day talking back and forth with Him is very very poor!!!

Yet amazingly you think I am boasting about that - HA HA HA - You are actually humorist to me, because I know how poor walking and talking with Him a dozen different times a day is in reality!! Jesus does and says only what the what Father tells Him to this day! And you could be walking and talking with Him, so I advise you to do so! That is not said from my pride (though I know I even have pride because I only hear from Him a dozen times a day), but it is said from my zeal for Him because I know that walking and talking with Him helps people and even all people are helped if you do walk and talk with Him!! Indeed, I am helping people consider seeking Him and His words for them!!

But some/many will not accept that great advice I have for them!! And that shows by their responses!!

They should have sought the Lord before they responded, but I will point them back to Him!! He is where your help comes from - so start talking back and forth with Him!!! Then you too will understand how poor you actually are at seeking Him and listening to Him, because you walk and talk with Him!! And that will just make you more zealous for Him, and get more reproof from Him, and make you more determined to help other people by pointing them to Him!! But will they take your advice of listen to the accuser of the saints?

 

[Karl Peters]

Like your post #29 for example. I don't believe God Himself said any of that stuff to you about the holes in His hands. You're delusional. @Karl Peters

So what bits of wisdom and what teachings did you actually hear from Him???

Do you not think that He went to the cross, like is written in the Bible? Did you not read that He holds everything together with His hands? What about miracles, do you believe He is still around Today to not only hear from but to do miracles? And so what part of what I claim He told me to you actually have a problem with? Or perhaps you are just a scoffer, and someone who refuses to believe in the Great I Am?

It seems so, by what you wrote. Because if someone said something that didn't seem like was from the Lord I would question it by pointing out particulars that don't seem to match up with what we read in the Bible! But of course the Bible also talks about scoffers! They are those who just scoffing at the testimonies about Him, and by such about Him period!!

Prov 14:6 A scoffer seeks wisdom and finds none,
But knowledge is easy to one who has understanding.

 

[CC7799]

Gospel of Matthew, Many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew chapter 13.
Why did Jesus always teach people in parables ??

Truth is.

Too busy in ways of the world
Hostile to the truth

Only few respond, they are the ones truly hearing. Jesus said, he who has ears, let him hear.
Matthew 11:15.

Not everyone is invited to kingdom of God, John chapter 6:44

John chapter 6
All that the Father gives me will come to me I will never drive away. Skip verse. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day.

Holy Spirit is the ticket. Some people have Spirit of slumber.


Those who have Holy Spirit are drawn to Jesus, to do will of God.

Romans chapter 8 . God's election have Holy Spirit.

Phillipines chapter 2:12
If we listen with our spiritual ears, and respond to the invitation.



Matthew chapter 13.
Jesus spoke in parables to people. They're carnal minded, and have Spirit of slumber. They can't understand the deep truth of Gods word.

The apostles and prophets are the election.

Today, those who are shepherds of body of Christ, are of the election.

1 Corinthians chapter 2.

Some have Holy Spirit.
Some have Spirit of error.

If anyone has difficulty understanding.

I suggest studying with shepherds chapel on YouTube.
Videos on
Election
Spirit of slumber
Three world ages
Peace

 

[Karl Peters]

Gospel of Matthew, Many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew chapter 13.
Why did Jesus always teach people in parables ??

Truth is.

Too busy in ways of the world
Hostile to the truth

Only few respond, they are the ones truly hearing. Jesus said, he who has ears, let him hear.
Matthew 11:15.

Not everyone is invited to kingdom of God, John chapter 6:44

John chapter 6
All that the Father gives me will come to me I will never drive away. Skip verse. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day.

Holy Spirit is the ticket. Some people have Spirit of slumber.


Those who have Holy Spirit are drawn to Jesus, to do will of God.

Romans chapter 8 . God's election have Holy Spirit.

Phillipines chapter 2:12
If we listen with our spiritual ears, and respond to the invitation.



Matthew chapter 13.
Jesus spoke in parables to people. They're carnal minded, and have Spirit of slumber. They can't understand the deep truth of Gods word.

The apostles and prophets are the election.

Today, those who are shepherds of body of Christ, are of the election.

1 Corinthians chapter 2.

Some have Holy Spirit.
Some have Spirit of error.

If anyone has difficulty understanding.

I suggest studying with shepherds chapel on YouTube.
Videos on
Election
Spirit of slumber
Three world ages
Peace

I suggest you actually listen to Jesus Christ!

Why did you not suggest that to me?

Did you not even read the verses you quoted?

You asked: "Why did Jesus always teach people in parables ??"
And came to the conclusion:

Truth is.

Too busy in ways of the world
Hostile to the truth

But Jesus was asked this question and His answer was:

Mat 13:10,11 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?”
Jesus answered them, “To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted.

So it was not about them being "Too busy in ways of the world" nor even that they were "Hostile to the truth" - after all they had all come to hear from Him and were not seeking to kill Him when He told them the parable of the Sower or the seeds. The problem was that it hadn't been granted to them to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven! And that because "because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand."

Mat 13:13 “Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.

Do you not even know that while we are not of this world we are still in this world - and He is not raising lazy sons is He? So we can be busy in this world, like having a job in this world, and still be hearing from Him!!! Do you not even understand that Jesus himself, while in the flesh, worked hard in this world, doing the things like construction, which are the things we work at - and that for most of His time in the flesh? Do you not even know that the kingdom of heaven will help you with you with this?

Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

And yet you quoted:

Phillipines chapter 2:12
If we listen with our spiritual ears, and respond to the invitation.

How is it that you supposedly "listen with our spiritual ears" and don't know that we not only have the King, Jesus Christ, but also His Kingdom of heaven to help us in all we do - which includes the work we have here in this world, so that all the things we need in this world is also added to us?

Simply put - He uses parables so that those who do not listen to Him with their spiritual ears won't understand that He is 'THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OR LORDS, and all things belong to Him because He Father gave Him all things!! Which includes this world, but some are rebellious and don't listen to Him. The work of God is that all should come to know Him, and we are often included in it, but He also gave the command to work the land.

Gen 3:17 Then to Adam He said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat from it’;
Cursed is the ground because of you;
In toil you will eat of it
All the days of your life.

Believing in Him, makes it easier for sure, but the command "In toil you will eat of it All the days of your life" is still applicable!

So the parables were not about "Too busy in ways of the world " like you wrote! They are about seeking Him, and actually listening to Him and He has a kingdom for watch over us, minister to us, and help us - but who really seeks the King (Jesus Christ) and His Kingdom? If indeed you were chosen, then wouldn't you understand this?

 

[Karl Peters]

I know everyone knows in part, but it seems to me that too many are missing basic parts. Now that said I note that in this post I wrote "it seems to me, so that said I am saying to my understanding, which I have but like to seek the Lord for His view on things. And He was just asking me to talk a walk with Him, now. So I will, but I will be talking to Him again about why they (so many Christian posting here) don't seek to walk and talk to Him like me. Perhaps I need to listen to Him more to understand this, but sooooo many times I have already talked to Him about this. And the answer He gives me is that they just don't listen to Him much.

I get up in the morning and I usually hear from Him a little. Then I take a shower, get dressed and sit down with Him, and pray the Lord's prayer with includes, "Thy Kingdom come", and so I am not surprised that during the day I wind up hearing from angel also. Of course it starts with hearing from Him, and I usually hear form Him a dozen different times during the day, but He tends to also send angels to minister to me, and work with me during the day. Both He and them will give me advice and help with my business during a normal day.

Thus that seeking the Kingdom of God first has the benefit of giving me that things I need in this world, and I actually love being busy, especially with the Lord and His Kingdom in my life. And that is my Christian life, day to day. I walk and talk with Jesus Christ, the KING OF KINGS, so I also have access to the Kingdom of God, and we talk and work together.

Ps 91:1 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High
Will abide in the shadow of the Almighty......
... Ps 91:11For He will give His angels charge concerning you,
To guard you in all your ways.

That reads "His angels charge concerning you, To guard you in all your ways"!!!

That includes my business, which I spend a large majority of my time on. And yet I come to this Christian forum and run across "Christian" who don't seem to understand what I am experiencing at all!!!

Heb 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent out to render service for the sake of those who will inherit salvation?

It makes me wonder how is it they don't seem to know about the angels that serve the KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS? Are they not being ministered to by them? Then are they not going to be inheriting salvation? To me it seem flat our hard to even find a Christian who even knows about the Kingdom of God, but less is regularly know the angels who supposedly are watching over them and ministering to them. Most don't even understand about hearing from our Lord Jesus Christ Today like that should be.

Now again, this post is me and my comparing what I read from others here to my actually Christian life. It is not boasting, it is frustrating trying to talk to other Christians who are supposed to know Him and His kingdom but don't seem to. Anyway, I have a walk to take now with the Lord.

 

[CC7799]

I suggest you actually listen to Jesus Christ!

Why did you not suggest that to me?

Did you not even read the verses you quoted?

You asked: "Why did Jesus always teach people in parables ??"
And came to the conclusion:



But Jesus was asked this question and His answer was:

Mat 13:10,11 And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?”
Jesus answered them, “To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted.

So it was not about them being "Too busy in ways of the world" nor even that they were "Hostile to the truth" - after all they had all come to hear from Him and were not seeking to kill Him when He told them the parable of the Sower or the seeds. The problem was that it hadn't been granted to them to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven! And that because "because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand."

Mat 13:13 “Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.

Do you not even know that while we are not of this world we are still in this world - and He is not raising lazy sons is He? So we can be busy in this world, like having a job in this world, and still be hearing from Him!!! Do you not even understand that Jesus himself, while in the flesh, worked hard in this world, doing the things like construction, which are the things we work at - and that for most of His time in the flesh? Do you not even know that the kingdom of heaven will help you with you with this?

Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

And yet you quoted:

Phillipines chapter 2:12
If we listen with our spiritual ears, and respond to the invitation.

How is it that you supposedly "listen with our spiritual ears" and don't know that we not only have the King, Jesus Christ, but also His Kingdom of heaven to help us in all we do - which includes the work we have here in this world, so that all the things we need in this world is also added to us?

Simply put - He uses parables so that those who do not listen to Him with their spiritual ears won't understand that He is 'THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OR LORDS, and all things belong to Him because He Father gave Him all things!! Which includes this world, but some are rebellious and don't listen to Him. The work of God is that all should come to know Him, and we are often included in it, but He also gave the command to work the land.

Gen 3:17 Then to Adam He said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat from it’;
Cursed is the ground because of you;
In toil you will eat of it
All the days of your life.

Believing in Him, makes it easier for sure, but the command "In toil you will eat of it All the days of your life" is still applicable!

So the parables were not about "Too busy in ways of the world " like you wrote! They are about seeking Him, and actually listening to Him and He has a kingdom for watch over us, minister to us, and help us - but who really seeks the King (Jesus Christ) and His Kingdom? If indeed you were chosen, then wouldn't you understand this?

Another gain sayer whose ignorant, and is vessel of Satan.

Do you even know who the election are ??

Your arrogant and ignorant. You don't understand the Scripture.

I'm also calling you liar !!!

Im Matthew chapter 13

Parables of the sower

The farmer went to sow seeds . Some fell along path. Birds ate it up.
Some fell on rocky places. Not much soil.
Others fell among thorns, which grew up and choked out.

Some fell on good soil. Where it produced a crop. Who ever has ears, let him hear.

13.11
He replied, because the knowledge of the secrets of kingdom of heaven has been given you, but not to them.
Jesus quotes Isaiah chapter 6.

They have Spirit of slumber.

Some go back into ways of the world.
Some can't endure persecution when little comes

Romans chapter 1 . The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the ungodliness and wickedness of people, Who Suppress The Truth by their wickedness.

These are Reprobates. They distort God's word. Deny the truth. This group follows Satan. Your a reprobate !!. Hostile to the truth.

1 John 4:6

We are from God. Who ever knows God listens to Us, who ever is not from God does not listen to us, By this we know the Spirit of truth and Spirit of error.

You are false brethren. Your not of Jesus sheep fold. Your not called and chosen. You in fact have Unclean Spirit. Gain Sayers and heretic's serve Satan. I have no problem telling you to go to Hell. Your not of Body of Christ. And your liar.

Titus chapter 2. But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine. Ignorance is rampant.
Don't know who the election are
Don't know who kenites are
Don't know seals and trumps of revelation
Devoid of the truth about garden of Eden
You wouldn't know the truth if tractor trailer ran you over.

2 Timothy chapter 3
Just as jannes and jambres opposed Moses, so these Men also oppose the Truth, men corrupted in mind, and disqualified regarding the faith.

Heretic's and Reprobates. Always causing division and sowing discord. Causing subversion. These are snakes from Satan.

Have a extent of knowledge of God's word. But don't know deep truth of Gods word. Because they're not of God's sheep fold.

Ephesians chapter 1
In him also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promise of holy Spirit.
These are the election.
Reprobates have unclesn Spirit.

Christian people are the election. Have holy Spirit. Your not of the election !!
Your fraud and liar.

Peter ssys off the election.
You are distressed in various trials.
Lusts wage war against your soul
You have been called to suffer
They Revile your good behavior
Malign you for not running with them anymore
You are Reviled in the name of Christ

Those who follow Satan hate the election, children of light.

Election are the chosen.
Reprobates have unclesn Spirit.

John chapter 15. You did not choose me, but I chose you. The election. Chosen before foundation of the world age. Presdestined. The position for election can't be voluntary.

John chapter 6:39
God the Father chose certain individuals to form Body as gift to Jesus Christ. Your not of the election. You're reprobate.

Colossians chapter 1
As Gods chosen ones and beloved. I stop here.
Titus chapter 1
Paul, servant of God, and apostle of Jesus Christ, to further the Faith of Gods elect, and there knowledge of the truth that leads to godliness.
Paul is of the election. They're called and chosen, have Holy Spirit.

1 Timothy chapter 5
I charge you, in the sight of God, and. Christ Jesus, and the Elect angels, to keep the these instructions without partially, and to do nothing out of favoritism.

Romans chapter 8
Those who live according to the flesh have there minds set on what the flesh desires, but those who live in accordance with the Spirit, have there.minds set what the Spirit desires.

Those who have Holy Spirit will never go against God.
Reprobates will decieve, and distort God's word. They're of the devil.

8:9
And if anyone does not have Spirit of Christ, They do not belong to Christ. God's election have Holy Spirit.
Your not of the election. Your not one God's sheep. Period !!

8:14

For those who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God. The position for election can't be voluntary.
1 Peter chapter 1
Elect, according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obiedence, and sprinkling of the blood of Christ, .

Reprobates are rejected. Worhless. Don't have holy Spirit.
Subject is the election.

2 Corinthians chapter 2 :15

For we are to God the pleasing aroma of Christ, among those who being saved, and those who Perishing.

Reprobates go with Satan into lake fire.
Dead works
Liar's
Hate Jesus
Hate the righteous
Promote Satan's agenda.
The aroma of heretic's and Reprobates are Manure !!


2 Corinthians chapter 4

And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are Perishing. The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that They cannot see the light of the gospel that displayed the glory of Christ, who is image of God.

Do you understand cup cake. Reprobates and heretic's have date with lake of fire on judgement Day.
Messing with Body of Christ, attacking us. Your aroma of manure will follow you in hell fire. To perish.

False shepherd's have no future. There going with Satan into the lake of fire.

Titus chapter 3

But avoid foolish questions, and genealogy and contentions, and strivings about the law, for they are unprofitable and Vain.

A Man that is Heretick after the first, and second admonition Reject.

Knowing that such is Subverted, and sins, being self condemned.

I'm not going to get into the dirty mud with you.
To argue or debate.

I don't have to be nice to you. Your Heretick, and reprobate. Your not of Body of Christ. Your servant of Satan.

Essentially saying, reprobates are losers.
None of the election want the manure around.

I reject you. You know what'happens on judgement Day. Reprobates will Perish.

Jesus is the judge.

I'm not responding back.

 

[CC7799]

Its obvious Karl Peters likes to attack other members. And its not his thread..

It's one thing to correct somone.

He relishes attacking others.

I saw pattern with him.

I hate self righteous people. Especially Reprobates.

Arrogant and Deficient.

I studied under pastor Murray 20 years. This chump either went to seminary classes. Or picked up Bible, and is self proclaimed minister.

It's obvious Reprobates will attack those who have Holy Spirit.

Know it all.

 

[Karl Peters]

I reject you. You know what'happens on judgement Day. Reprobates will Perish.

I hate self righteous people. Especially Reprobates

When you tell people to seek Jesus Christ and listen to Him, and that is your message, then they don't reject you but they reject Jesus Christ, because He is actually there to speak to us - all of us - even the person who rejects the idea that He is actually the Great I AM who speaks to them but they don't listen to.

Rev 3:19,20 ‘Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.
‘Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.

And telling other to seek Jesus Christ and listen to Him, is not a 'self righteous' act, but is caring act. If they don't come to know Him then hell awaits them, because they don't believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God and God.

Jn 1:1,2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.

Jn 3:16,17 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
“For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

He is not trying to judge them, but to save them through Him. But when they don't listen to Him, even though He is there speaking to them, what then is He supposed to do except to send that message through someone else?

Eze 3: 4-7 Then He said to me, “Son of man, go to the house of Israel and speak with My words to them.
“For you are not being sent to a people of unintelligible speech or difficult language, but to the house of Israel,
nor to many peoples of unintelligible speech or difficult language, whose words you cannot understand. But I have sent you to them who should listen to you; yet the house of Israel will not be willing to listen to you, since they are not willing to listen to Me. Surely the whole house of Israel is stubborn and obstinate.

So the Lord has over the years sent people to address this issue of not listening to Him. And those people are probably not going to listen to someone telling them to seek Jesus Christ and listen to Him, since they already were not listening to Him. But there telling others they are self centered when they tell them to listen to Him is just being stubborn and obstinate. The can tell themselves different and choose not to believe God, even the child born to us who is called "Wonderful Counselor and Might God", but that is their mistake!

Is 9:6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us;
And the government will rest on His shoulders;
And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

Mat 17:5 While he was still speaking, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and behold, a voice out of the cloud said, “This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well-pleased; listen to Him!”

How did they miss or think what is written is wrong:

"He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish"

We have been given Jesus Christ, the Son, and don't tell me you believe in Him while not actually listening to Him personally!!

Heb 13:5 Make sure that your character is free from the love of money, being content with what you have; for He Himself has said, “I WILL NEVER DESERT YOU, NOR WILL I EVER FORSAKE YOU,”

They don't really believe the above, so they don't believe in Him and seek Him and what He has to say to them. If they did, they would rejoice in the good news - the message that He is there to talk to us so we can listen to Him, and they would be used by Him to get people to listen to Him also!

They would have things that He was telling them:

WE DON’T HAVE UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE WE DON’T READ THE BIBLE WITH UNDERSTANDING, BUT OUR UNDERSTANDING…. UNDERSTAND???

THE SCRIPTURES ARE RIGHT, BUT THEY ARE NOT RIGHTEOUS. THEY HAVE NO ABILITY TO ACT. THEY ARE NOT ALIVE, BUT THE WORD OF GOD IS ALIVE AND ACTIVE.

WE DON’T USE THE LORD TO PREACH THE SCRIPTURES; WE USE THE SCRIPTURES TO PREACH THE LORD!!