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Well, it comes down to do I believe the LORD and the things he presents within the contents of the Bible or face2face.

That’s the simple of it. I ain’t worried about what Jesus said, I’m just making sure not to fall prey to what man may say.

So you’re against Christian culture and I get that, I’m against the culture as well, but follow Yeshua. I have no intermediary between me and Yahavah.

All the best.
Take up the challenge - I think it will help you
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No thanks, I think it’s a waste of time and efforts. You have a good day. Peace.
You see Matthew...it's hard to learn if you don't ask the right questions or study to find the hidden things of God.
Maybe you will do it in your own time.
God bless your searching
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You see Matthew...it's hard to learn if you don't ask the right questions or study to find the hidden things of God.
Maybe you will do it in your own time.
God bless your searching
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This was my answer to my question earlier.

Thanks man. Blessing to you as well.
 

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This was my answer to my question earlier.

Thanks man. Blessing to you as well.
The Pharisees suffered from the save problem.
But the answer for one man was a blinding light and 3 years in the wilderness to study the true Gospel.
I don't expect you to do the same but you will need your own wilderness to grow in the knowledge of God and the Lord Jesus Christ
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The Pharisees suffered from the save problem.
But the answer for one man was a blinding light and 3 years in the wilderness to study the true Gospel.
I don't expect you to do the same but you will need your own wilderness to grow in the knowledge of God and the Lord Jesus Christ
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Right, at least you believe that the Holy Spirit of God rose Jesus from the dead, and may that Holy Spirit be with you and help all us be guided to truth. Let’s continue to worship Yahavah in spirit and in truth, thank you for just disregarding what’s been shared there.

Mentioning Pharisees that’s people who put the law on people… and love to be seen in the market places and woahed after, stoning people to death, and etc… Yeshua said their heart was far from the truth of Yahavah. And I’m not saying any person here is wrong or right? It’s just definitely need of study and not to just take your word or my word for it.

I have no personal vendetta I just share what I’ve been let known already for consideration, people can take it or throw it away. Satans defeat was at the cross! Praise Yahavah. We are truly blessed today, and should continue to look to him and be faithful.

I don’t even think about these topics much anymore cause “knowledge” just puffs a man up, and it’s not pleasing to God as a whole. “Faith” is what pleases God.
 

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Right, at least you believe that the Holy Spirit of God rose Jesus from the dead, and may that Holy Spirit be with you and help all us be guided to truth.
True.
Let’s continue to worship Yahavah in spirit and in truth, thank you for just disregarding what’s been shared there.
The Lord Jesus Christ has Yahwehs Deity dwelling in him though he sits at the right hand of the Father on High. Still subject to his Father in all things.
Mentioning Pharisees that’s people who put the law on people… and love to be seen in the market places and woahed after, stoning people to death, and etc…
What you will find when the Lord returns is the same situation. The Pharisees have their many books as do Christians all of which teach their own paradymn.

Yeshua said their heart was far from the truth of Yahavah.
True
And I’m not saying any person here is wrong or right? It’s just definitely need of study and not to just take your word or my word for it.
Correct, which is why I always state "look for yourself"
I have no personal vendetta I just share what I’ve been let known already for consideration, people can take it or throw it away
Fair enough
. Satans defeat was at the cross!
Actually Paul uses the word Devil Matthew. It has different meaning.

2:14 Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, he likewise shared in their humanity, so that through death he could destroy the one who holds the power of death (that is, the devil) Heb 2:14.

The Devil here is false accuser and that which has the power of death is sin Romans 6:23

Sin is what falsely accusers us against God - our bias to sin - terrible!

Praise Yahavah. We are truly blessed today, and should continue to look to him and be faithful.
Amen
I don’t even think about these topics much anymore cause “knowledge” just puffs a man up, and it’s not pleasing to God as a whole.
We are asked to increase in this knowledge

2:2 My goal is that their hearts, having been knit together in love, may be encouraged, and that they may have all the riches that assurance brings in their understanding of the knowledge of the mystery of God, namely, Christ, 2:3 in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge Col 2:2–3.

As I said - Paul the Pharisee who knew the Law perfectly spent 3 years studying the Word to discover the True Gospel

Don't underestimate this

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Knowledge still doesn't mean anything in the face of Yahavah no matter how much you quote that bible, Face2Face. That is my opinion.

They mystery of God, was that Jesus Christ came to be able to have salvation brought to all people.


Satan, there was a word for an person(age) used by God to allow them to do bad things. (SHOCKER to most!) must get rid of it!

Most people don't wanna worship a God like this.... so it doesn't bother me. That is just the truth.

Just consider Numbers 22-25.
Or The book of Sam. where the LORD sent an evil spirit on that one guy I cant remember his name.

None of these scare me or bother me anymore.


Peace bro. I love you regardless, of your knowledge.

See ya mate!
 
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Knowledge still doesn't mean anything in the face of Yahavah no matter how much you quote that bible, Face2Face. That is my opinion.
Yes it is.
They mystery of God, was that Jesus Christ came to be able to have salvation brought to all people.
A mystery revealed through a message
Satan, there was a word for an person(age) used by God to allow them to do bad things. (SHOCKER to most!) must get rid of it!

Most people don't wanna worship a God like this.... so it doesn't bother me. That is just the truth.

Just consider Numbers 22-25.
Or The book of Sam. where the LORD sent an evil spirit on that one guy I cant remember his name.
If you went away and looked you would
None of these scare me or bother me anymore.


Peace bro. I love you regardless, of your knowledge.

See ya mate!
It's not just about love Matthew

Truth is important to God...you should know this much

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No, to many its an unknown lament to the King of Tyre

28:11 The word of the Lord came to me: 28:12 “Son of man, sing a lament for the king of Tyre, and say to him, ‘This is what the sovereign Lord says: Eze 28:11–12.

If you ever want it explained in context - the lessons are rather amazing! It's some of the most beautifully written work in the OT. Hidden wisdom which natural Israel understood perfectly.

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Can’t be the king of Tyre, he wasn’t in the garden of Eden but the serpent was.
 

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Can’t be the king of Tyre, he wasn’t in the garden of Eden but the serpent was.
Like I said, once you understand the symbol and their intent the lament is unlocked and the understanding gained. If you read it and study it for yourself, I'm confident you will see. This is more about understanding how God communicates to His People Israel - great lessons were learnt from this lament.

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But I am afraid that just as the serpent deceived Eve by his treachery, your minds may be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 2 Co 11:3.

Now this was the perfect opportunity to explain your fallen angel theology however Paul draws your attention to the literal animal serpent with voice.

That carnal voice which deceived Eve into grasping what was forbidden.

Paul knew the story and understood it perfectly

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From my perspective Eve decided to partake in eating the fruit because it would make her wise.

Then the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, so she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.

Because of desire. People choose what they desire to eat from the knowledge of the tree of good and evil, and or the tree of life.
 

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From my perspective Eve decided to partake in eating the fruit because it would make her wise.
The serpent was only able to make observations from what it could see naturally. It was clear the Angels were higher beings and it would only make sense for it to say the things it said. How else in the serpents mind could Eve become like the angels?
Then the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, so she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.

Agree. What some believers don't understand is the Serpent wasn't created and the carnal voice introduced A&E would be forever naive and while very good they could never attained the perfection of divine nature without knowing both good and evil.

What we learn from Christ is its impossible for two earthy parents to produce a sinless man, impossible! Which is why the JW's doctrine of A&E being unsavable unthinkable - how could two dust beings ever live a sinless life? Thousands of years of history proves it was impossible!

Because of desire. People choose what they desire to eat from the knowledge of the tree of good and evil, and or the tree of life.
Yes.
 

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Another teaching of the Lords which cuts across the traditional teaching of a fallen angel being behind the Serpent in Genesis 3 which is nowhere mentioned in all the Word is found here

“I am sending you out like sheep surrounded by wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves. Mt 10:16.

The serpent is a rare combination of wisdom and innocence. Serpents noted for its subtilty as per Gen 3:1

Where in the Word do we see this demonstrated by Christ?

After this Jesus traveled throughout Galilee. He stayed out of Judea because the Jewish leaders (serpents!) wanted to kill him. Jn 7:1.

Then they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out from the temple area. Jn 8:59.

So from that day they planned together to kill him. 11:54 Thus Jesus no longer went around publicly among the Judeans, but went away from there to the region near the wilderness, to a town called Ephraim, and stayed there with his disciples. Jn 11:52–54.

So while the cunninginess of the animal was presented in a negative context in Genesis 3 we find the Lord drawing on this example in a positive sense.

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