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Inanutshell…

Love is doing what is RIGHT for an other regardless of the Consequences.

Sin is Unbelief IN the Lord God Almighty.

Trespasses are negative behaviors of man against man, which will result in negative consequences if not corrected.

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thank you bro. But I was asking @amigo de christo to explain to me what he meant in context of what he said..
 

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explain love and accepts sin to me please
i said FALSE LOVE . not love . FALSE LOVE .
false love accepts sins , overlooks sins and errors , agrees with sins and error .
FALSE LOVE . you know like the love they now try and cliam is OF GOD , BUT AINT .
the love that says muslims and other religoins serve the same God we do ,CRAP .
JESUS IS BEING TROD UNDER FOOT . WONT BE ALLOWED ON MY WATCH .
NO LOVE that is of GOD would omit THE DIRE NEED , THE ABSOLUTE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
GUESS what . ALL other religoins , including muslim , ALL DENY HIM AS THE CHRIST , AS THE MESSIAH , AS THE SON OF GOD .
IT AINT LOVE to try and make folks think we all serve the same GOD . ITS HATE , ITS MURDER and its DESTRUCTION
and guess what else , IT ENDS ON MY WATCH . I WONT ALLOW it to be beleived . you all can call me a monster
a hater cause i wont allow sin to remain uncorrected and cause i wont give unbelief in JESUS THE CHRIST a pass .
BUT BY GOD and HIS GRACE , I EXPOSE IT ALL . so go on now , call me the hater many others do .
BUT remember this . ON THE DAY OF JESUS THE CHRIST , many gonna wish they had heeded my simple reminder
and not have bought into another fake butt love phoney gospel crap .
 
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Parable of the Talents comes to mind and Jesus life and actions were replete with good works.
But lets remember something JESUS said , and said , and said more than once .
YE MUST BELEIVE IN HIM . You see all the good works wont be saving squat who denied JESUS as the CHRIST .
I dont care if the scholars and popes and anyone else tries to make this so . THEY LIE , I DONT HEED liars .
Now i know that if one just LIPS the name of JESUS yet loves sin , yet uses His name but walks in darkness of sin
and their works fall far short . THEY DO NOT KNOW HIM , its lip service .
But guess what else i know . NO one , NOT ONE SOUL , who has been born of GOD
would DENY THAT JESUS IS THE CHRIST . IF you like i willl bring JESUS own words to prove this fact .
SO allow me some parting , but dire and grave words
IF ANY one tries to sell us on the fact that muslims and others KNOW GOD just cause they so call love they neighbor .
ITS A Crock of crap . sorry for the words but i am so darn wore out with this big all incluisve lie stuff .
Fact is , if anyone tries to sell us an image of CHRIST and of GOD
that is fine with sins , ITS A LIE from the dark one .
GOD is not the minstir of sin . HE NEVER WILL BE . HE warns against sin , SO Did his prophets
SO DID HIS SON . SO how come THIS GEN dont . but rather seems to overlook
all the sins and errors within THE CHURCH and just hug and say GOD is love .
OH I KNOW GOD IS LOVE . WHY YA THINK HE WARNS US SO MUCH and SO OFTEN to REPENT
and WHY do we think HE EVEN SENT CHRIST .
HE DID not send CHRIST so we could continue IN SIN and HOLLER all is well , we have liberty to serve the flesh .
NO SIR . WHERE IS THE CHANGE . I DONT SEE the CHANGE OF GOD within many .
I aint saying you , that was a general statement . WHERE IS IT . cause i too used to lip the name of JESUS
but i too loved my sin and was a servant OF SATAN . TIME we BIBLE this people UP .
 
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Love is not a feeling but an act of the will.
depends on whose act and whose will . cause ANY LOVE that DENIES GOD , HIS WILL . oh it aint TRUE LOVE .
Love is not cushy feelings , yes sir you are correct dear sir .
But we have what is known as the two loves . one is of the world and the world will love its own
even sinners can love sinners , SAID JESUS .
BUT the other LOVE that cometh of GOD , BY THE HOLY GHOST ,
well that LOVE would rejoice in ......................drum roll please ......................
THE TRUTH . NOT LIES , NOT SINS ,
THE TRUTH . but watch out cause the love that cometh of the world can preach and say love GOD and love your neighbor
ONLY , ITS NOT GONNA BE THE VERSION OFTHE LOVE OF GOD . OH IT WILL hold to lies , it will hold to sins
and it will holler all day to those who do correct sins , JUDGE NOT , jUDGE NOT , JUDGE NOT .
 
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Inanutshell…

Love is doing what is RIGHT for an other regardless of the Consequences.

Sin is Unbelief IN the Lord God Almighty.

Trespasses are negative behaviors of man against man, which will result in negative consequences if not corrected.

Glory to God,
Taken
RIGHT . love is doing what IS RIGHT , what is GOOD for another regardless of the consequences .
Allowing folks to remain in sin and unbelief , THAT AINT RIGHT and that AINT GOOD for them . NOW IS IT .
CORRECTION and correcting them IS what is GOOD for them .
SO WHY is THAT OVERLOOKED TODAY .
in fact about the only thing i see most every church do is
CORRECT those who Would correct sin and error in that church .
SOUNDS LIKE A DELUSION TO ME . SOUNDS like the devil really can quoate scrips
and twist them to create another image of love and of GOD . SOUNDS TO ME
like a lot of folks dont seem to LOVE to read THEY BIBLE EITHER . rather they seem to LOVE to heed men that TWIST STUFF .
NOT LOOKING GOOD at all for this generation . NOT AT ALL . so allow me my usual reminder .
BIBLE TIME FOLKS .
 
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By the time my course on earth is done , i would not marvel a bit if most all of humanity , christendom
and the false religoins hate this man . OH it builds every day and every hour of said day .
But , guess all i can do is keep saying , BIBLE TIME FOLKS
learn that JESUS , them words , that doctrine FOR YOU .
 
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Parable of the Talents comes to mind and Jesus life and actions were replete with good works.
Jesus life and actions were replete with good works and LOTS OF GOOD WORDS TOO .
For by they words ALSO thou shall be condemend or justified . as well as by works .
the works gotta match the mouth and all of it must match and agree WITH WHAT GOD , WHAT JESUS THE CHRIST
and that lovely doctrine SAID . IF our lips and our actions contradict them lovely beautfiul words
THEN ITS US WHO HAS THE PROBLEM . NOT GOD . NOT HIS CHRIST , NOT THE BIBLE . ITS US who be in error .
Too many love twisted doctrine and a false love . THEY wont make it on that path . . NO SIR . i should know
i once was on that same path . heading RIGHT TO PERDITOIN , TILL THE REAL GRACE OF GOD SHOWED UP
and CHANGED ME and put a love for TRUTH upon my heart and into SAID BIBLE DID I GO . we bess bible this people UP .
 
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i said FALSE LOVE . not love . FALSE LOVE .
false love accepts sins , overlooks sins and errors , agrees with sins and error .
FALSE LOVE . you know like the love they now try and cliam is OF GOD , BUT AINT .
the love that says muslims and other religoins serve the same God we do ,CRAP .
JESUS IS BEING TROD UNDER FOOT . WONT BE ALLOWED ON MY WATCH .
NO LOVE that is of GOD would omit THE DIRE NEED , THE ABSOLUTE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
GUESS what . ALL other religoins , including muslim , ALL DENY HIM AS THE CHRIST , AS THE MESSIAH , AS THE SON OF GOD .
IT AINT LOVE to try and make folks think we all serve the same GOD . ITS HATE , ITS MURDER and its DESTRUCTION
and guess what else , IT ENDS ON MY WATCH . I WONT ALLOW it to be beleived . you all can call me a monster
a hater cause i wont allow sin to remain uncorrected and cause i wont give unbelief in JESUS THE CHRIST a pass .
BUT BY GOD and HIS GRACE , I EXPOSE IT ALL . so go on now , call me the hater many others do .
BUT remember this . ON THE DAY OF JESUS THE CHRIST , many gonna wish they had heeded my simple reminder
and not have bought into another fake butt love phoney gospel crap .
well these are false teachers.

The problem is I see people attack true believers and say they love sins. This is a prety big problem (I have been accused of this myself
 
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Leaders That Don't Support Good Works or Overcoming Sin

Very discouraging…and matters not be they entitled with a clerics title presuming they are a Servant of the Lord or entitled with a title of Servant of the People …

“THEY” are dependent upon the IGNORANT void of the TRUTH…(of which there ARE Many)….to keep their coffers filled….and they in power positions….
AND EASY TO SPOT, by they who know the Truth…

Trying times…and more than ever necessary to KEEP communication with the Lord God without ceasing.

Gods Blessing to all the saints…

Glory to God,
Taken
 
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Leaders That Don't Support Good Works or Overcoming Sin

Very discouraging…and matters not be they entitled with a clerics title presuming they are a Servant of the Lord or entitled with a title of Servant of the People …

“THEY” are dependent upon the IGNORANT void of the TRUTH…(of which there ARE Many)….to keep their coffers filled….and they in power positions….
AND EASY TO SPOT, by they who know the Truth…

Trying times…and more than ever necessary to KEEP communication with the Lord God without ceasing.

Gods Blessing to all the saints…

Glory to God,
Taken
Take a look at the Pentecostals and Charismatics—it's surprising, especially when you consider how people criticize the Roman Catholic Church (RCC). These are challenging times, and it’s crucial to test the spirits (dokimazete ta pneumata) to discern what’s truly from God.

Mat 25:1 "Then the kingdom of heaven will be like ten bridesmaids who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.
Mat 25:2 Now five of them were thoughtless and five were thoughtful,
Mat 25:3 for the thoughtless ones took their lamps but took no oil with them.
Mat 25:4 But the thoughtful ones not only took their lamps but also extra oil in their oil cans.
Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom was delaying, they all got drowsy and dropped off to sleep.
Mat 25:6 But at midnight there was a shout, 'Here comes the bridegroom! Go out to meet him!'
Mat 25:7 Then all those bridesmaids awoke and trimmed their lamp-wicks.
Mat 25:8 And the thoughtless ones said to the thoughtful ones, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.'
Mat 25:9 But the thoughtful ones answered, 'No, no, there may not be enough for you and us. Go to the store and buy your own oil.'
Mat 25:10 And while they were going to buy it, the bridegroom came, and the bridesmaids that were ready went in with him to the wedding reception; and the door was closed.
Mat 25:11 At last the rest of the bridesmaids came, and kept begging, 'Master, master, open the door for us!'
Mat 25:12 But he answered, 'I positively say to you, I do not know you.'
Mat 25:13 So you must keep on watching, for you do not know either the day or the hour.
Williams Bible.
 

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@Johann ~

Will agree “catholics” do get a lot of criticism….mainly IMO, regarding their inference of “THE” Church being exclusively “THE CATHOLIC CHURCH”, rather than what “CHRIST JESUS claimed as “HIS” Church.

As far as ANY Church claiming to be “a Christian Organization”, by whatever title that graces their building….I highly DOUBT every single member, AGREES with every single Cleric in an in charge position….Less they believe that Cleric to be ALL knowing.
:rolleyes:

Nor do I believe, ONE individual member of ANY Church speaks for the entire Organization …. So yes, it can spur disagreements between denominations.

I have my ‘membership’ in Christ’s Church…
Sort of “skipping” the man-made denominational thing.

BTW, hope your weather is pleasant, and political governance is tolerable…CRAZY here…weather unusual and the political “climate” off the charts weird.

God bless you.

Glory to God,
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@Johann ~

Will agree “catholics” do get a lot of criticism….mainly IMO, regarding their inference of “THE” Church being exclusively “THE CATHOLIC CHURCH”, rather than what “CHRIST JESUS claimed as “HIS” Church.

As far as ANY Church claiming to be “a Christian Organization”, by whatever title that graces their building….I highly DOUBT every single member, AGREES with every single Cleric in an in charge position….Less they believe that Cleric to be ALL knowing.
:rolleyes:

Nor do I believe, ONE individual member of ANY Church speaks for the entire Organization …. So yes, it can spur disagreements between denominations.

I have my ‘membership’ in Christ’s Church…
Sort of “skipping” the man-made denominational thing.

BTW, hope your weather is pleasant, and political governance is tolerable…CRAZY here…weather unusual and the political “climate” off the charts weird.

God bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken
I can send you Video clips as to what is going on here-this is "darkness descending" with poverty, murder, rape and sickness-but it is well with my soul.
You think you have it crazy there, multiply it a 1000x as to what is going on here.
We are in the end times as I'm sure you are well aware of @Taken

God bless.
J.
 

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I can send you Video clips as to what is going on here-this is "darkness descending" with poverty, murder, rape and sickness-but it is well with my soul.
You think you have it crazy there, multiply it a 1000x as to what is going on here.
We are in the end times as I'm sure you are well aware of @Taken

God bless.
J.

Gotcha and Agree…rumors and prophecy coming into fruition, unfolding before our eyes…
Day by day….Trying, troubling, scary and wonderful and rolled together…

God bless you,

Glory to God,
Taken
 
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RIGHT . love is doing what IS RIGHT , what is GOOD for another regardless of the consequences .
Allowing folks to remain in sin and unbelief , THAT AINT RIGHT and that AINT GOOD for them . NOW IS IT .
CORRECTION and correcting them IS what is GOOD for them .
SO WHY is THAT OVERLOOKED TODAY .
in fact about the only thing i see most every church do is
CORRECT those who Would correct sin and error in that church .
SOUNDS LIKE A DELUSION TO ME . SOUNDS like the devil really can quoate scrips
and twist them to create another image of love and of GOD . SOUNDS TO ME
like a lot of folks dont seem to LOVE to read THEY BIBLE EITHER . rather they seem to LOVE to heed men that TWIST STUFF .
NOT LOOKING GOOD at all for this generation . NOT AT ALL . so allow me my usual reminder .
BIBLE TIME FOLKS .
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RIGHT . love is doing what IS RIGHT , what is GOOD for another regardless of the consequences .
Allowing folks to remain in sin and unbelief , THAT AINT RIGHT and that AINT GOOD for them . NOW IS IT .
CORRECTION and correcting them IS what is GOOD for them .
SO WHY is THAT OVERLOOKED TODAY .
in fact about the only thing i see most every church do is
CORRECT those who Would correct sin and error in that church .
SOUNDS LIKE A DELUSION TO ME . SOUNDS like the devil really can quoate scrips
and twist them to create another image of love and of GOD . SOUNDS TO ME
like a lot of folks dont seem to LOVE to read THEY BIBLE EITHER . rather they seem to LOVE to heed men that TWIST STUFF .
NOT LOOKING GOOD at all for this generation . NOT AT ALL . so allow me my usual reminder .
BIBLE TIME FOLKS .
Brother is spotted.
 
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well these are false teachers.

The problem is I see people attack true believers and say they love sins. This is a prety big problem (I have been accused of this myself
Sadly i have seen this much too often myself .
I have seen peoples within the church calling those who expose and correct sin within the church
as being in hate , haters . Now murder , hate , is sin . So often the few who do correct the church
get accused of being in sin .
One who loves sin is in darkness . While evil is present , aka in the flesh ,
While all can be tempted by the flesh .
The true believer hates even in the evil in its flesh . Whereas he or she who loveth sin
will by all and any means find a way to justify their sin . Even recreating another image of CHRIST . Deadly that is my near
and my dear friend . VERY DEADLY is that to do .
This is why many will sit in places who preach a jesus that wont correct sin , and even accepts sin .
A lamb sits under JESUS the Christ but many love to sit under another jesus and have ever itching ears
to hear twisted doctrines that makes them feel safe and accepted in their sin . That is very deadly and a delusion .
So now i leave us with a real simple one .
HOW does one truly KNOW its the LOVE of GOD that has been shed upon their hearts
and not rather a love of the world , though it comes under the guise its of GOD .
The answer is far more simple than man has made it .
While both true love and false love will speak of doing good works and etc ,
ONLY THE CHARITY OF GOD will rejoice IN TRUTH . not in lies , not in inquity .
YE shall know them by the love they embrace . For many embrace a love thats fruit is to accept and overlook sin .
That wont bode well . DO you realize HOW easy it is to be saved .
BELIEVE YE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
Yet many beleive in words contrary to HIS WORDS , they love and embrace and obey another jesus .
That one aint captilized because it AINT JESUS THE CHRIST and thus , IT CANNOT SAVE but only Enslave .
This is why i often beg and plead , BIBLE TIME my near and my dear friends .
CAUSE we have us one who has come in His own name and that one sets not the captives free
but rather keeps them in bondage by preaching another jesus . My desire IS GOOD for all peoples . BIBLE TIME .
 
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Sadly i have seen this much too often myself .
I have seen peoples within the church calling those who expose and correct sin within the church
as being in hate , haters . Now murder , hate , is sin . So often the few who do correct the church
get accused of being in sin .
One who loves sin is in darkness . While evil is present , aka in the flesh ,
While all can be tempted by the flesh .
The true believer hates even in the evil in its flesh . Whereas he or she who loveth sin
will by all and any means find a way to justify their sin . Even recreating another image of CHRIST . Deadly that is my near
and my dear friend . VERY DEADLY is that to do .
This is why many will sit in places who preach a jesus that wont correct sin , and even accepts sin .
A lamb sits under JESUS the Christ but many love to sit under another jesus and have ever itching ears
to hear twisted doctrines that makes them feel safe and accepted in their sin . That is very deadly and a delusion .
So now i leave us with a real simple one .
HOW does one truly KNOW its the LOVE of GOD that has been shed upon their hearts
and not rather a love of the world , though it comes under the guise its of GOD .
The answer is far more simple than man has made it .
While both true love and false love will speak of doing good works and etc ,
ONLY THE CHARITY OF GOD will rejoice IN TRUTH . not in lies , not in inquity .
YE shall know them by the love they embrace . For many embrace a love thats fruit is to accept and overlook sin .
That wont bode well . DO you realize HOW easy it is to be saved .
BELIEVE YE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
Yet many beleive in words contrary to HIS WORDS , they love and embrace and obey another jesus .
That one aint captilized because it AINT JESUS THE CHRIST and thus , IT CANNOT SAVE but only Enslave .
This is why i often beg and plead , BIBLE TIME my near and my dear friends .
CAUSE we have us one who has come in His own name and that one sets not the captives free
but rather keeps them in bondage by preaching another jesus . My desire IS GOOD for all peoples . BIBLE TIME .
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I can send you Video clips as to what is going on here-this is "darkness descending" with poverty, murder, rape and sickness-but it is well with my soul.
You think you have it crazy there, multiply it a 1000x as to what is going on here.
We are in the end times as I'm sure you are well aware of @Taken

God bless.
J.
Anything that keeps the people in bondage is of darkness .
SIN IS BONDAGE .
The dark one has come in his own name to keep the captives captive to a lie and in sin
by preaching another version of love , of Christ , of GOD . ALL to merge this people to be as one mind and one heart
under it . Who , by the lusts of the flesh , GETS THE WORSHIP . satan is slick my friend .
HOW did we once have our conversation with him , THROUGH THE LUSTS OF THE FLESH .
IS it any wonder then , that he and his minstirs will preach another jesus in order to keep souls trapped in darkness and bondage
and all the while these poor captives holler , WE are free , we have our liberty and yet its sin they embrace and live in .
THAT AINT FREE or LIBERTY . use not LIBERTY as an occasion to serve THE FLESH .
HE who is made free FROM SIN , not TO SIN , FROM SIN . WHO we serve is WHOSE we are .
When eve believed the serpent she fell .
 
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Works has nothing to do with being saved I think the question a person has to ask themselves when it comes to works is why are you doing it?If you doing it to be saved you got it all wrong and need to look at the sacrifice Jesus made because you don't understand.If your doing it out of faith and love for God then your on the right track with the hope of a possible greater reward which will be eternal that Jesus himself promises .I have never done anything thinking it saves me I have always understood it is the sacrifice Jesus made that saves me but I have done thing out of love for God and in faith and who knows maybe I will be rewarded or maybe not..At the Christian Judgement some will be rewarded other will not be rewarded and some will be turned away.
 
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