Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

[Jane_Doe22]

Jane.

Mormonism is not Christian. No matter if you exclusively share your own faith. There is no such thing as LDS Christians... That is all a facade...

I don't really mind you sharing your faith.

However you do not represent the whole of "the MORMON" Church, okay?

I really just wish this thread would get locked up because people are confused here... CHRISTIANITY is a Religion, Mormonism is a Religion. They aren't combined, they are both religions...

Jesus came to break people out of religious bondage. And free them in the spirit... Not showing up to a church... which deems itself "the true church."

Yeah okay.

You and I approach things very differently. A see people believing and worshipping together to be community, and (ideally) can support each other. To lean on, teach, cheer up, celebrate together. Obviously never worsphi a man or blindly follow, but a community can be very good. A church building is not a prison.

 

[MatthewG]

You and I approach things very differently. A see people believing and worshipping together to be community, and (ideally) can support each other. To lean on, teach, cheer up, celebrate together. Obviously never worsphi a man or blindly follow, but a community can be very good. A church building is not a prison.

Mormonism is a religion.
Christianity is a religion.

Neither one of them mix together...

People get forced into religion, and they become another number to a church... Sure everyone might have fun and everything but even a person who was showing up to church for 15 years and cheated on her husband and had the cheater kill her husband.

Church doesn't save people... no matter how fun you are having in there.

There have also been cases of Sexual abuse in both churches.



So you can defend that building I don't care one bit @Jane_Doe22. Those churches don't save no one.

 

[MatthewG]

Why do people continue to let this thread to exist, @Rita. (or any other staff member.)


They continue to fight and even defend the teachings of Mormonism which really are not Christian.

Yes I get they teach the death,burial,and resurrection and there may be some people who follow Jesus, instead of the man on the pulpit.

They got living apostles, when no apostles of Jesus Christ who were witness to his resurrection are no longer around...

It's just not true that Mormons - teach only Jesus - they teach open revelation as though more is to be revealed... etc...
They also deem themselves "the only true church."
They make people work on themselves, instead of the holy spirit doing the work on their heart.


Therefore you aren't part of that church you aren't getting to heaven. I thought it was Jesus! ...

and what just "one single person says" defending the religion, doesn't really hold up any water in my opinion...

Even the person named "TAKEN" shared their statement of faith on the website, but a statement on a website doesn't mean jack... when you walk into that building.

Maybe it's passion on my end but it's true..

 

[Rita]

As far as can see this is a debate - at this moment in time I personally see no reason to lock the thread.

 

[Rita]

I saw you post , you must have been deleting it as I was dealing with your request. I have locked you out for 7days- if you would like this changed send me a pm ( although it’s late here so I will be settling down soon )

 

[Marymog]

Exactly! I can be BOTH a tennis fan AND watch football. Likewise LDS can be Christian AND have teaching/doctrine not in Scripture.

Sooooo you can be a Christian if you add to Scripture doctrine that is not in Scripture? I can play tennis and use rules from football while playing tennis, but I would still be considered a tennis player?

You crack me up Wrangler.......

 

[Marymog]

Agh! Irrelevant. That's my answer!

It's "irrelevant" if a "Christian" denomination has teachings/doctrines that are not in Scripture??

Oh goodneess.....

 

[Marymog]

This thread is about whether LDS are Christian. They obviously are. In fact, I presented a link showing they are actually the 4th largest Christian denomination in America. The centricity of their doctrines to Scripture is irrelevant.

Your 'evidence' that they are 'obviously' Christian is because they are the 4th largest denomination in America?

But then say that it's irrelevant if their doctrine is based on CHRISTIAN Scripture or not? confused

How can any denomination be "Christian" if their doctrine is not based on Christian doctrine?

 

[Marymog]

Poor Mary. I am not accusing you of this. @Jane_Doe22 confessed this. I take her confession as sincere.

However, the point was not about her confession but the PRIDE in ya'll denying her confession. You and others seem to hold yourselves as a greater authority of what @Jane_Doe22 believes than @Jane_Doe22 is.

Oh goodness......I somehow thought your post to jane as being to me, so I replied to it. I guess because you had my name in it.

I'm EMBARRASED......

Mary

 

[Taken]

Sooooo you can be a Christian if you add to Scripture doctrine that is not in Scripture? I can play tennis and use rules from football while playing tennis, but I would still be considered a tennis player?

You crack me up Wrangler.......

Not at all what Wrangler said!
A tennis “PLAYER” is one thing.
A football “SPECTATOR” is another thing.

Each has rules, that applies to the “GAME” and to the TEAM MEMBERS that has nothing to do with the “non-Member” Spectators”.

 

[Marymog]

Paraphrased quote. (Maybe I heard it wrong) Thanks for finding it exactly. Did I get the sentiment of religious liberty right?

Yes, you got the "sentiment" right.

 

[Marymog]

Not at all what Wrangler said!
A tennis “PLAYER” is one thing.
A football “SPECTATOR” is another thing.

Each has rules, that applies to the “GAME” and to the TEAM MEMBERS that has nothing to do with the “non-Member” Spectators”.

You are right Taken. We agree that is what @Wrangler was saying.

I was trying to convey/point out a deeper analogy.

I can play tennis and use rules from football while playing tennis, but I would still be considered a tennis player = I can call myself a Christian because I use the Christian rule book (Scripture) but I can add to that rule book and still be a Christian.

You can't add to the tennis rule book that tackling of your opponent is allowed and still be considered a tennis player. You would be kicked out of your league.

 

[Marymog]

Not at all what Wrangler said!
A tennis “PLAYER” is one thing.
A football “SPECTATOR” is another thing.

Each has rules, that applies to the “GAME” and to the TEAM MEMBERS that has nothing to do with the “non-Member” Spectators”.

Do you think that LDS are non-Member spectators of Christianity?

 

[Marymog]

Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

They Speak for themselves:

“We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.”

If not to your liking, so what?
The door swings both ways.

Glory to God,
Taken

They do speak for themselves. They also believe that The Book of Mormon Is the Word of God and The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s!

Is that to YOUR liking Taken?

Mary

 

[Taken]

You are right Taken. We agree that is what @Wrangler was saying.

I was trying to convey/point out a deeper analogy.

I can play tennis and use rules from football while playing tennis, but I would still be considered a tennis player = I can call myself a Christian because I use the Christian rule book (Scripture) but I can add to that rule book and still be a Christian.

You can't add to the tennis rule book that tackling of your opponent is allowed and still be considered a tennis player. You would be kicked out of your league.

You are focusing on the “rule” book of each specific game…

Aside from the “GAME rule books”…
There are “rules” that apply to the “members” that have nothing to do with the “RULES” OF Game.

Members, have “rules” they agree to obey…
Examples;
Dress alike…
Meet at particular times…
Shake hands with opponents…
Do not intentionally injure an opponent…
Etc.

These “rules” are outside of the “game rules”.
These “rules” apply ONLY to team “members”.
These “rules” can BE “upstanding” or BE “corrupted”…

For Example…
* Changing the rules…
For Example…
* Sending team members into the game to INTENTIONALLY “hurt” an “opponent”….

*** WHO wields the POWER to DO THAT?
In a “game”….the Coach.
In a “household”….the Head of household.
In “schools”Principles, Teachers, Counselors
In “day care”…babysitter
In “politics”….Elected & appointed Officials.
In “religions”….Clerics
In “children”…peers, friends, popular, bullies

Point being…There is Always “someone” in a “higher position”….throughout an individuals LIFE-TIME…that the individual MUST decide… WILLINGLY TO YEILD TO…based on the others INTENT….or reject to YEILD TO when the others INTENT is corrupt.

AND that IS a Biblical teaching…which teaches TO TEST EVERYTHING…. that it BE upstanding, pleasing to God or corrupt and Not pleasing to God.

Many Parents Operate, encourage, OUTSIDE of the Limits of house rules.

Many Politicians Operate, encourage, OUTSIDE of the Limits of the Constitution.

Many Clerics Operate, encourage OUTSIDE of the Limits of Gods Word.

You may disagree with OTHER religions “rules” for their members.

And many others many Disagree with your religions “rules” for members of your religion.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

They do speak for themselves. They also believe that The Book of Mormon Is the Word of God and The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s!

Is that to YOUR liking Taken?

Mary

My LIKING? For their members to be members…sure.

My LIKING? Their members to freely adhere or avoid their own choices….sure.

Personally, I am not a member of any man-made religious church organization….to delve into the long list of member obligations of each man made religious church organization.

I am aware of some man-made church religious organizations …. Extra Biblical “rules”…and disagree with such “teachings”…

Even including disagreeing with your own “Catholic” Extra Biblical “rules and teachings”.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Wrangler]

Sooooo you can be a Christian if you add to Scripture doctrine that is not in Scripture?

There is no doctrine purity test to be a Christian. Thank God.

God's requirements for salvation are divinely simple. Man has to complicate the hell out of it. God's way of salvation is based on faith. Man's way of Original Sin, still very much at play, is based on the IDOL of knowledge.

 

[Taken]

Do you think that LDS are non-Member spectators of Christianity?

No. Their organization was established on the root topic of the Lord God.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Wrangler]

It's "irrelevant" if a "Christian" denomination has teachings/doctrines that are not in Scripture??

Oh goodneess.....

Yea, like the Catholics teach there is such an office as a Pope who acts as Christ in being a mediator between us and God, usurping the very role of Christ and his authority. Stuff like that, yet the Catholics can still be considered "Christian."

 

[Marymog]

You are focusing on the “rule” book of each specific game…

Aside from the “GAME rule books”…
There are “rules” that apply to the “members” that have nothing to do with the “RULES” OF Game.

Members, have “rules” they agree to obey…
Examples;
Dress alike…
Meet at particular times…
Shake hands with opponents…
Do not intentionally injure an opponent…
Etc.

These “rules” are outside of the “game rules”.
These “rules” apply ONLY to team “members”.
These “rules” can BE “upstanding” or BE “corrupted”…

For Example…
* Changing the rules…
For Example…
* Sending team members into the game to INTENTIONALLY “hurt” an “opponent”….

*** WHO wields the POWER to DO THAT?
In a “game”….the Coach.
In a “household”….the Head of household.
In “schools”Principles, Teachers, Counselors
In “day care”…babysitter
In “politics”….Elected & appointed Officials.
In “religions”….Clerics
In “children”…peers, friends, popular, bullies

Point being…There is Always “someone” in a “higher position”….throughout an individuals LIFE-TIME…that the individual MUST decide… WILLINGLY TO YEILD TO…based on the others INTENT….or reject to YEILD TO when the others INTENT is corrupt.

AND that IS a Biblical teaching…which teaches TO TEST EVERYTHING…. that it BE upstanding, pleasing to God or corrupt and Not pleasing to God.

Many Parents Operate, encourage, OUTSIDE of the Limits of house rules.

Many Politicians Operate, encourage, OUTSIDE of the Limits of the Constitution.

Many Clerics Operate, encourage OUTSIDE of the Limits of Gods Word.

You may disagree with OTHER religions “rules” for their members.

And many others many Disagree with your religions “rules” for members of your religion.

Glory to God,
Taken

Yup, you are right. I am breaking it down into a rule book for each specific game.

Christianity's rule book is the Bible.

Mormons rule book is the Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants Pearl of Great Price.

Mormons do not operate under the same rules as Christianity.

The rest of your post makes no sense.....