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Mat 28
9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.

The deity of Jesus.
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Watchtower probably changed God's word in mat 28.
They did. Along with several other passages... especially in John's gospel, which, as John himself says, was "written so that (we) may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing (we) may have life in His name" [John 20:31].

They literally have a created being receiving worship in Matthew and Hebrews.
And John, and several other places in God's Word. It's quite inexplicable. But... there's nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes), and the Word of our God stands/endures forever (Isaiah, Peter).

As Paul says, "the time is coming..." (and now has been here for quite some time) "...when people will not..." (do not) "...endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate..." (have for quite some time have accumulated) "...for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn..." (have turned) "...away from listening to the truth and wander..." (wandered) "...off into myths. As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry." [2 Timothy 2:3-5]​

Notice how worship (or ‘obeisance’) is given to the Son “and the host of other good angels.” Again Justin Martyr calls the Son, the Word, an angel!
Never is there any worship given to angels like Gabriel or Michael, but only to ~ yes ~ the Angel of God, the true Messenger of God and promised Deliverer of the people of God, the Messiah, God's Christ.

Grace and peace to all.
 
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Thank you, Rebuilder454.


They did. Along with several other passages... especially in John's gospel, which, as John himself says, was "written so that (we) may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing (we) may have life in His name" [John 20:31].


And John, and several other places in God's Word. It's quite inexplicable. But... there's nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes), and the Word of our God stands/endures forever (Isaiah, Peter).

As Paul says, "the time is coming..." (and now has been here for quite some time) "...when people will not..." (do not) "...endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate..." (have for quite some time have accumulated) "...for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn..." (have turned) "...away from listening to the truth and wander..." (wandered) "...off into myths. As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry." [2 Timothy 2:3-5]​


Never is there any worship given to angels like Gabriel or Michael, but only to ~ yes ~ the Angel of God, the true Messenger of God and promised Deliverer of the people of God, the Messiah, God's Christ.

Grace and peace to all.
I just happened to be reading in Matthew and saw that verse.
I went "huh?"..reread it.
Thank You Jesus !!!!!!! !! !
 

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The NWT translation of Matt. 28:9 is "And look! Jesus met them and said: “Good day!” They approached and took hold of his feet and did obeisance to him."
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Worship/Obeisance

The Greek word proskuneo (or proskyneo) is defined in the 1971 trinitarian United Bible Societies' A Concise Greek-English Dictionary of the New Testament, p. 154: "[Proskuneo] worship; fall down and worship, kneel, bow low, fall at another's feet."

Even the extremely trinitarian W. E. Vine writes in his An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, p. 1247:

"PROSKUNEO ... to make obeisance, do reverence to (from pros, towards, and kuneo, to kiss), is the most frequent word rendered 'to worship'. It is used for an act of homage or reverence (a) to God ...; (b) to Christ ...; (c) to a man, Matt. 18:26." ("Obeisance," of course, shows "respect, submission, or reverence" - Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, 1961.)

Noted Bible scholar J. H. Thayer defines proskuneo:

"prop. to kiss the hand to (towards) one, in token of reverence ... hence in the N. T. by kneeling or prostration to do homage (to one) or make obeisance, whether in order to express respect or to make supplication. It is used a. of homage shown to men of superior rank [position] ... Rev. 3:9 .... b. of homage rendered to God and the ascended Christ, to heavenly beings [angels]" - p. 548, Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, Baker Book House Publ., 1977.

The Hebrew word most often translated "worship" is shachah, and it is usually rendered as proskuneo in the Greek Septuagint version of the Old Testament. Unger and White say of this word: "Shachah ... 'to worship, prostrate oneself, bow down.'" And, "The act of bowing down in homage done before a superior [in rank] or a ruler. Thus David 'bowed' himself [shachah] before Saul (1 Sam. 24:8). Sometimes it is a social or economic superior to whom one bows, as when Ruth 'bowed' [shachah] to the ground before Boaz (Ruth 2:10)." - Nelson's Expository Dictionary of the Old Testament, 1980, Thomas Nelson Publ., p. 482.

Perhaps the most famous Biblical Hebrew scholar of all, Gesenius, tells us in Gesenius' Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament, p. 813, (#7812), 'Shachah':

"(1) to prostrate oneself before anyone out of honor .... Those who used this mode of salutation fell on their knees and touched the ground with the forehead ..., and this honor was not only shown to superiors, such as kings and princes, 2 Sam. 9:8; but also to equals; Gen. 23:7."

At Rev. 3:9 Jesus shows the position of authority he will give to some of his human followers when he says he will make people "worship before thy feet." - KJV. The word used there is proskuneo! The ASV adds this footnote: "The Greek word [proskuneo] denotes an act of reverence whether paid to a creature, or the Creator."[1]

We can see the same thing at Is. 45:14. Here God, speaking to his faithful human followers of the last days, says: "and they [the rest of surviving mankind] ... shall fall down [shachah - 'worship'] unto thee, they shall make supplication [palal - 'pray': see The Jerusalem Bible and AT] unto thee, saying, Surely God is in thee [see IN/WITH study]; and there is none else." - KJV, ASV. - cf. Is. 49:23.

Even the ancient Greek translation, the Septuagint, says at Is. 45:14 - “and they ... shall [proskuneo - ‘worship’] thee and make supplication [proseuchomai - ‘pray’] to thee: because God is in thee; and there is no God beside thee, O Lord.” (Notice all the trinitarian-type “evidence” here that could “prove” these men are “equally God”!) - The Septuagint Version of the Old Testament, Greek and English, Zondervan Ed., 1970.

So we see that the king of Israel, for example, could receive proskuneo or shachah in his role as a representative of a higher authority (Jehovah), or he could receive it in recognition of his own earthly position of authority that God allowed him to have. For example, at 2 Sam. 14:22 Joab "worships" 'my Lord' (King David). The Hebrew word shachah translated in most places in the Bible as "worship" is here translated "did obeisance" in the RSV. In the Greek Septuagint the word used is proskuneo. So, in spite of their both sharing the same fleshly human nature, one gave the other proskuneo or shachah!

We see the same thing at 1 Kings 1:16, 31 when Bathsheba gives shachah to her husband and king, David. Not only does the Septuagint use proskuneo for these verses (3 Kings 1:16, 31 in Sept.), but at verses 21 and 31 she calls David, "The Lord of me" ("My Lord").
 
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