But shun profane and vain babblings

[Stewardofthemystery]

Since when is interpreting scripture a case of purposely adding to it or taking away from it, which is what that passage is about?

You are handling the words of God deceitfully to push the false doctrines of carnally minded men.

2 Corinthians 4:2
But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

 

[Zao is life]

Do you deny the first resurrection of Christ? If so that makes you a heretic.

How many resurrections does Christ have?

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Do you have any biblical corroboration to support your interpretation of Revelation 20 that physical resurrection is the event that gives us a victory over eternal punishment?

1 Corinthians 15:54
So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Then why don’t you believe them?

Those who say the first resurrection is past already are in error. They are of Mystery Babylon= vain babblings…

2 Timothy 2:15-18​

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King James Version​

15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.”

I do. I interpret them differently than you do. You are being foolish! And you are slandering Amils! 2 Timothy 2:18 does not apply to what Amils believe. You are lying about Amils by applying that passage to us when we do NOT believe that "the resurrection", which refers to the resurrection of the dead in Christ, "is past already".

You need to look in the mirror and ask yourself why you are falsely accusing others like this. Saying we are of Mystery Babylon and are in a cult? Are you kidding me? That is foolish nonsense. You are equating having the correct interpretation of Revelation 20 with salvation! You are making up your own requirements for salvation, which is foolish! We are saved by grace through faith, and not by works. You are saying we are saved by having the correct interpretation of Revelation 20. You don't even understand what salvation is and how people are saved! You need to get into the milk of God's word before you're ready for the solid food.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The word of God says a thousand years three times and the thousand years three times in 6 consecutive verses.

The number of times something is mentioned does not determine whether it's literal or not. The beast is mentioned over 30 times in the book. Does that make it a literal beast? These kinds of arguments are weak, at best.

Not long after I received the holy Ghost in 1998,I understood it is speaking of a thousand years.I understood this to be a day to the Lord and that day is the Sabbath day.The seventh from.Adam.
In reading 2 Peter I felt my thoughts were confirmed and then I ran across the general epistle of Barnabas which spells it out for a first grader to understand.

Is this the same way you came to believe that Paul didn't have the full revelation of Bible prophecy and why you think we can't trust his teachings on Bible prophecy?

 

[Zao is life]

Those who say the first resurrection is past already are in error. They are of Mystery Babylon= vain babblings…

2 Timothy 2:15-18​

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King James Version​

15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.”

Don't be anxious, @Stewardofthemystery

The Kingdom is coming because the King is coming.

"I am the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, says the Lord, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty. (Revelation 1:8 & 22:13)

John 18
36 My the kingdom is not of this the world [kosmos]: if my kingdom were of this the world [kosmos], then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now, of this present time [nun], is my the kingdom not from hence.

Revelation 11
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this the world [kosmos] are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Hebrews 2
8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him.

But now, of this present time [nun], we see not yet all things put under him.

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

John 14
22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world [kosmos]?

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

The Kingdom of the Messiah has been in this world since the Day of Pentecost, but it is not yet of this world.

His Kingdom is coming.

"Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is the one who watches and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.

--- And he gathered them into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. (Revelation 16:15-16)

THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST IS GIVEN TO THOSE WHO HAVE AN EAR TO HEAR (THE REST WILL NOT HEAR) WHAT JESUS SAYS TO THOSE WHO OVERCOME.

"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give him to eat of the Tree of Life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.". (Rev.2:7)

I will him give power over the nations. (Rev.2:26-29)

He will not be hurt by the second death. (Rev.2:11)

I will not blot out his name out of the Book of Life, but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.(Rev.3:5-6).

I will grant him to sit with Me in My throne, even as I also overcame and have sat down with My Father in His throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. (Rev.3:18-22)

But,​

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If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives a mark in his forehead or in his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the anger of God, having been mixed undiluted in the cup of His wrath.

And he will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. And they have no rest day or night, those who worship the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name. -– Revelation 14:9-11

All dwelling on the earth will worship it, those whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain, from the foundation of the world. -– Revelation 13:8​

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John saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the Word of God, who had not worshiped the beast nor his image, nor had received his mark on their foreheads, nor in their hands, seated on thrones, and judgment was given to them.

And they were alive in their bodies [záō] and reigned with Christ a thousand years. -– Revelation 20:4, but the rest of the dead did not live again [anazáō] until the thousand years were finished.

This is the first resurrection of the body [anástasis]. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. The second death has no authority over these, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him a thousand years. -– Revelation 20:5

Záō = (humans who are) "alive in the body" in the New Testament (when it's not speaking about the living God).

Anazáō = “alive in the body again”.

Anástasis = “the resurrection of the body” in the New Testament (without exception).

@Stewardofthemystery Only those who have ears to hear, will hear. The rest will change its meaning to make it say what they will hear (what they want to hear), and so have they already all done.
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@Stewardofthemystery But the truth was established before them and the things they choose to believe and disbelieve, and the truth is both Christ and is in Christ. The truth exists from everlasting. The opinions they hold of themselves, those who do not have an ear to hear, may be exulted in their own minds, but they are like grass. They are mere men.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

1 Corinthians 15:54
So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

That's talking about the body, of course. Does the second death have power over us all the way up until our bodies are resurrected? What about those who are alive and remain until Christ's second coming? They're out of luck?

What does scripture say about when it becomes true that the second death no longer has any power over someone?

Revelation 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. 5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

The second death has no power over those who are born of God NOW.

 

[Zao is life]

The second death has no power over those who are born of God NOW.

If that were true we would all be immortal NOW.

The only one whom scripture says is immortal NOW is Christ, the only one who has (eternal) life in Himself.

Our life is IN CHRIST, not in ourselves.

You're pushing a "once saved, always saved" doctrine.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You are handling the words of God deceitfully to push the false doctrines of carnally minded men.

2 Corinthians 4:2
But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

Stop your vain babblings already. You will be judged by the same measure you are judging me (Matthew 7:1-2) which is not good for you. If I'm mistaken in any of my beliefs, so be it. But, everyone can see that I back them up with scripture. I do NOT deceitfully handle the words of God. That is a lie.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

If that were true we would all be immortal NOW.

The only one whom scripture says is immortal NOW is Christ, the only one who has (eternal) life in Himself.

Our life is IN CHRIST, not in ourselves.

Are the dead in Christ still in danger of experiencing the second death? No, right? You are talking about BODILY immortality here. Surely, there is no chance that the dead in Christ will end up suffering the second death, right? A bodily resurrection is not what is necessary to avoid the second death. Instead, overcoming and being born of God is required to avoid the second death, as I showed using scripture (Revelation 2:9, 1 John 5:4-5).

You're pushing a "once saved, always saved" doctrine.

LOL. Where did I say I believe in "once saved, always saved"? I don't. You are not understanding what I'm saying. But, I don't want to get into detail about that here since no matter what I say, you probably won't get it, anyway.

But, even apart from those who are alive now, does the second death have any power over those who are physically dead and their souls are in heaven with Christ now? It doesn't, right? Is a bodily resurrection required in order for the second death to not have power over someone? No. The second death has no power over the dead in Christ who are in heaven now.

 

[WPM]

The word of God says a thousand years three times and the thousand years three times in 6 consecutive verses.
Not long after I received the holy Ghost in 1998,I understood it is speaking of a thousand years.I understood this to be a day to the Lord and that day is the Sabbath day.The seventh from.Adam.
In reading 2 Peter I felt my thoughts were confirmed and then I ran across the general epistle of Barnabas which spells it out for a first grader to understand.

Jesus spoke of that day in the gospel saying his work would be completed on that day.That being after 2000 years.

Luke 13:32
He replied, “Go tell that fox, ‘I will keep on driving out demons and healing people today and tomorrow, and on the third day I will reach my goal.’

This is all your extra-biblical invented reasoning. The Bible nowhere teaches your 7000 years theory. Premils keep shifting the fulfilment of the 6000 years to support their error. You are no different. You make it up as you go. Nowhere in Scripture does it teach

Hosea 6:2
After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

Hosea 6:1-3: “Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.”

There is no reason to interpret these 3 days as anything other than 3 literal days. This again shows that it is Premils that are constantly spiritualizing clear literal Scripture away in order to sustain Premil. Anyway, Jesus literally fulfilled Hosea 6:2. It has already happened. Jesus said he would fulfil this, and He did. Matt 12:40 reads: "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

There is no millennium mention or inferred in this passage. You have to force it into the text. It doesn't in any way say on the 3,000th day but the 3rd day, this is symbolism/spiritualization gone crazy. Such extremities are required to make Premil fit. The reality is it is referring to Christ's glorious resurrection.

Not so. He is describing the resurrection of Christ. There is no mention of thousands. You force that into the text to support your beliefs. What is more. We are already in the 3rd thousand now, demolishing your future millennium theory.

Jesus said in Luke 24:46-49: “Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things. And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.”

1 Cor 15:3-4: "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures."

Where? It is not mentioned anywhere else in Holy Writ, apart from the highly symbolic book of Revelation, and even then, only in the 3rd chapter before the end of the sacred text. I wish Premils quoted the full text of the Scripture that they mention to support their position. The text you mentioned make no mention of a future thousand years. No text seems safe with Premil eisegesis. Where is there any mention of an alleged future millennium in Hosea 6:2 or Luke 13:32?

After 2000 years would be the resurection.
It's not hard to understand once you learn a thousand years is as a day to the Lord.Peter attempts to educate his readers on this ,but many ignore Peters lesson and remain ignorant concerning the timing of the day of the Lord and the Lord's coming.

2 Peter 3
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Premils attempt to use this passage to argue that one eternal day with God literal equates to one thousand earthly years and that the commencement of that period starts at the time of the Second Advent. However, they do err in their assumption in that this text simply indicates the briefness of time with God. 2 Peter 3:8 does not in any way indicate a future earthly millennium kingdom anywhere in this reading. In fact, Peter is simply reminding the end-time scoffers that God is not bound by time. It is absolutely nothing to the king of glory; He ultimately sits outside of time in the realm of eternity. Time is but a I hear a Cinderella that up backyard behind the powers are offHello call LaurenContact to His infinite mind and to the eternal state. God is “from everlasting” (Habakkuk 1:12, Psalm 93:2). God is time-less.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

That's talking about the body, of course. Does the second death have power over us all the way up until our bodies are resurrected? What about those who are alive and remain until Christ's second coming? They're out of luck?

What does scripture say about when it becomes true that the second death no longer has any power over someone?

Revelation 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

1 John 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. 5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

The second death has no power over those who are born of God NOW.

You “Amils” are trying to redefine what “the first resurrection” of the dead in Christ and the thousand year reign of Christ on earth is talking about. That is why you say the thousand years started when Christ was resurrected. This is FALSE DOCTRINE

Here is your warning….

Revelation 22:18-19

King James Version​

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take awayhis part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”

You “Amils” have been warned!

 

[WPM]

1 Corinthians 15:54
So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

This is talking about it victory over the grave. What about the live in Christ? They are not resurrected when Jesus comes?

According to your beliefs, the only victory over the second death is a future physical resurrection of the elect.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Those who say the first resurrection is past already are in error. They are of Mystery Babylon= vain babblings…

2 Timothy 2:15-18

King James Version​

15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.”

 

[WPM]

You “Amils” are trying to redefine what “the first resurrection” of the dead in Christ and the thousand year reign of Christ on earth is talking about. That is why you say the thousand years started when Christ was resurrected. This is FALSE DOCTRINE

Here is your warning….

Revelation 22:18-19

King James Version​

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take awayhis part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”

You “Amils” have been warned!

Revelation 20:6 simply says, “Blessed and holy is he ‘that hath part’ (present active particle) in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power.”

The Greek word for "first" (as in first resurrection) is protos. It is a contracted superlative meaning foremost (in time, place, order and/or importance). So which is the "first" (or protos) resurrection - Christ's or the resurrection that occurs at the second coming? This is a pretty simply question.

Which is the foremost resurrection in time?
Which is the foremost resurrection in place?
Which is the foremost resurrection in order?
Which is the foremost resurrection in importance?

Christ's resurrection is the "first" or foremost resurrection in time.
Christ's resurrection is the "first" or foremost resurrection in place.
Christ's resurrection is the "first" or foremost resurrection in order.
Christ's resurrection is the "first" or foremost resurrection in importance.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

This is talking about it victory over the grave. What about the live in Christ? They are not resurrected when Jesus comes?

They are changed ….

1 Corinthians 15:51-55

King James Version

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51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Don't be anxious, @Stewardofthemystery

The Kingdom is coming because the King is coming.

"I am the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, says the Lord, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty. (Revelation 1:8 & 22:13)

John 18
36 My the kingdom is not of this the world [kosmos]: if my kingdom were of this the world [kosmos], then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now, of this present time [nun], is my the kingdom not from hence.

Revelation 11
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this the world [kosmos] are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Hebrews 2
8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him.

But now, of this present time [nun], we see not yet all things put under him.

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

John 14
22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world [kosmos]?

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

The Kingdom of the Messiah has been in this world since the Day of Pentecost, but it is not yet of this world.

His Kingdom is coming.

"Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is the one who watches and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.

--- And he gathered them into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. (Revelation 16:15-16)

THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST IS GIVEN TO THOSE WHO HAVE AN EAR TO HEAR (THE REST WILL NOT HEAR) WHAT JESUS SAYS TO THOSE WHO OVERCOME.

"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give him to eat of the Tree of Life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.". (Rev.2:7)

I will him give power over the nations. (Rev.2:26-29)

He will not be hurt by the second death. (Rev.2:11)

I will not blot out his name out of the Book of Life, but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.(Rev.3:5-6).

I will grant him to sit with Me in My throne, even as I also overcame and have sat down with My Father in His throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. (Rev.3:18-22)

But,​

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If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives a mark in his forehead or in his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the anger of God, having been mixed undiluted in the cup of His wrath.

And he will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. And they have no rest day or night, those who worship the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name. -– Revelation 14:9-11

All dwelling on the earth will worship it, those whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain, from the foundation of the world. -– Revelation 13:8​

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John saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the Word of God, who had not worshiped the beast nor his image, nor had received his mark on their foreheads, nor in their hands, seated on thrones, and judgment was given to them.

And they were alive in their bodies [záō] and reigned with Christ a thousand years. -– Revelation 20:4, but the rest of the dead did not live again [anazáō] until the thousand years were finished.

This is the first resurrection of the body [anástasis]. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. The second death has no authority over these, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him a thousand years. -– Revelation 20:5

Záō = (humans who are) "alive in the body" in the New Testament (when it's not speaking about the living God).

Anazáō = “alive in the body again”.

Anástasis = “the resurrection of the body” in the New Testament (without exception).

@Stewardofthemystery Only those who have ears to hear, will hear. The rest will change its meaning to make it say what they will hear (what they want to hear), and so have they already all done.
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@Stewardofthemystery But the truth was established before them and the things they choose to believe and disbelieve, and the truth is both Christ and is in Christ. The truth exists from everlasting. The opinions they hold of themselves, those who do not have an ear to hear, may be exulted in their own minds, but they are like grass. They are mere men.

Do you have ears to hear what Jesus taught or would you prefer to change it to say what you want it to say?

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Amils agree with Jesus that there is only one coming hour "in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth". Premils contradict Jesus by saying that there are TWO coming hours in which the dead will be bodily resurrected.

Amils agree with Jesus who taught that the saved and lost will be judged at the same time (Matthew 13:36-43;47-50, Matthew 25:31-46). Premils contradict Jesus by saying that the saved will be judged when He returns and the lost will be judged 1,000+ years later.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

They are changed ….

1 Corinthians 15:51-55​

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King James Version​

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51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

Yes, they will be changed. They won't die. Look at this verse carefully:

Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

This says that having part in the first resurrection is the way to avoid experiencing the second death, which is, of course, being cast into the lake of fire (Rev 20:14-15). Are those who are alive and remain out of luck then since they won't die and have part in the first resurrection, as you understand it?

Also, it talks about them being priests of God and of Christ which all believers are right now.

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

 

[Zao is life]

LOL. Where did I say I believe in "once saved, always saved"? I don't. You are not understanding what I'm saying. But, I don't want to get into detail about that here since no matter what I say, you probably won't get it, anyway.

But, even apart from those who are alive now, does the second death have any power over those who are physically dead and their souls are in heaven with Christ now? It doesn't, right? Is a bodily resurrection required in order for the second death to not have power over someone? No. The second death has no power over the dead in Christ who are in heaven now.

Is that why Adam died? Because death (the first death) had no power over him?

Who alone is immortal, according to scripture, if you know?

Who alone has eternal life in Himself, according to scripture, if you know?

In whom do we have life, according to scripture, if you know?

In whom did Adam have life, according to scripture, if you know?

Who created and who was created, according to scripture, if you know?

Will there be a second sacrifice for sins and a second resurrection from the second death, according to scripture, if you know?

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

Revelation 20:6 simply says, “Blessed and holy is he ‘that hath part’ (present active particle) in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power.”

Christ's resurrection is the "first" or foremost resurrection in time.
Christ's resurrection is the "first" or foremost resurrection in place.
Christ's resurrection is the "first" or foremost resurrection in order.
Christ's resurrection is the "first" or foremost resurrection in importance.

That is my point, you “Amils” think Rev. 20 is talking about Jesus Christ being resurrected, that is also why you think the thousand year reign began when Christ was resurrected.

What a strong delusion you guys are under.