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I can't even begin to get my head around this. If you know how your church handled this let me know. I didnt even hear about it from my church at the time because it was all donated. We take care of our own.- My daughter's church delivered several boxes to elderly church members and donated the rest to the needy. Some churches advertised via social media to the needy to come pick up- other churches delivered directly to those in need in their area. Others directed all of it to sister churches in poor areas, to their local food pantries,- wherever there was a need.

"Under the Trump administration due to covid in May of 2020 and ended in May of 2021- The USDA Farmers to Families Food Program began in May of 2020 and ended in May of 2021 having distributed more than 173 million food boxes of fresh produce, milk, dairy, cooked meats and seafood worth over $5 billion to Americans across the country. The program was designed and implemented as a temporary, emergency relief effort to respond to severe market disruption caused by a global pandemic. Distributors then packaged these products into family-sized boxes and transported them to;
food banks, community and faith-based organizations, and other non-profits serving Americans in need."


Inside each box was a letter from President Trump-
Not only did the JW Watchtower Society REMOVE the letters from President Trump from inside the food boxes for the needy- and REPLACE it with their OWN letter taking credit for this "free food"- they also donated nothing to the needy. They gave out these boxes only to JW members regardless of any need.
To top all lof that off, they actually took donations from members- (it was suggested by many elders to just give what you would have spent on groceries!) That money went to the Watchtower Society.
Let that sink in. --
My own siblings all received these boxes from 3 different kingdung halls- all of them were fully convinced that this food was a gift from their leaders at the Watchtower.
Do I have proof? I always do, so, Of course I do.

See WTBS letter below, then Trump's letter, then video and link to Food program.

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Robert Hendriks, U.S. spokesman for the Jehovah’s Witnesses, confirmed that branches had circulated the letter with some boxes during the program’s early weeks.. “The wording here does not exactly represent necessarily what we have directed to our disaster relief committees,” Hendriks said.
When asked if the organization was distributing to Jehovah’s Witnesses only, Hendriks said that the organization also delivers food boxes to non-believers.

OK-Let's unravel what Mr Hendricks said-
The wording doesnt exactly represent what we wanted to be found out. OR are the brothers and member branches liars?
Remember, the WTBS has a long history of blaming members when they are caught with their pants down. 1975 end of the world PROPHECY is just one example. He didnt deny the letter.
Next- "distributed also to non- believers . LIE.-- Remember that they were told to keep this confidential- -- It was a secret! My brother admitted that much.
A JW who had another person in their house who was not a Jw is considered an unbeliever. So yeah.. like that counts
Would be Hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
As if that wasn't bad enough- The Watchtower made a profit off of food for the POOR from their own members..
It's kind of like a pyramid scheme.
 

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I can't even begin to get my head around this. If you know how your church handled this let me know. I didnt even hear about it from my church at the time because it was all donated. We take care of our own.- My daughter's church delivered several boxes to elderly church members and donated the rest to the needy. Some churches advertised via social media to the needy to come pick up- other churches delivered directly to those in need in their area. Others directed all of it to sister churches in poor areas, to their local food pantries,- wherever there was a need.

"Under the Trump administration due to covid in May of 2020 and ended in May of 2021- The USDA Farmers to Families Food Program began in May of 2020 and ended in May of 2021 having distributed more than 173 million food boxes of fresh produce, milk, dairy, cooked meats and seafood worth over $5 billion to Americans across the country. The program was designed and implemented as a temporary, emergency relief effort to respond to severe market disruption caused by a global pandemic. Distributors then packaged these products into family-sized boxes and transported them to;
food banks, community and faith-based organizations, and other non-profits serving Americans in need."

Inside each box was a letter from President Trump-
Not only did the JW Watchtower Society REMOVE the letters from President Trump from inside the food boxes for the needy- and REPLACE it with their OWN letter taking credit for this "free food"- they also donated nothing to the needy. They gave out these boxes only to JW members regardless of any need.
To top all lof that off, they actually took donations from members- (it was suggested by many elders to just give what you would have spent on groceries!) That money went to the Watchtower Society.
Let that sink in. --
My own siblings all received these boxes from 3 different kingdung halls- all of them were fully convinced that this food was a gift from their leaders at the Watchtower.
Do I have proof? I always do, so, Of course I do.

See WTBS letter below, then Trump's letter, then video and link to Food program.

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Robert Hendriks, U.S. spokesman for the Jehovah’s Witnesses, confirmed that branches had circulated the letter with some boxes during the program’s early weeks.. “The wording here does not exactly represent necessarily what we have directed to our disaster relief committees,” Hendriks said.
When asked if the organization was distributing to Jehovah’s Witnesses only, Hendriks said that the organization also delivers food boxes to non-believers.

OK-Let's unravel what Mr Hendricks said-
The wording doesnt exactly represent what we wanted to be found out. OR are the brothers and member branches liars?
Remember, the WTBS has a long history of blaming members when they are caught with their pants down. 1975 end of the world PROPHECY is just one example. He didnt deny the letter.
Next- "distributed also to non- believers . LIE.-- Remember that they were told to keep this confidential- -- It was a secret! My brother admitted that much.
A JW who had another person in their house who was not a Jw is considered an unbeliever. So yeah.. like that counts
Would be Hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
As if that wasn't bad enough- The Watchtower made a profit off of food for the POOR from their own members..
It's kind of like a pyramid scheme.
JWs deny the deity of The Christ meaning, they are not Christ following, Spirit filled Christians... go figure.
 

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JWs deny the deity of The Christ meaning, they are not Christ following, Spirit filled Christians... go figure.
Yes, I know. I was raised in that religion. It is virtually void of Christ.
They dont teach that His death paid for our sins.
But it's so difficult to show them anything since they think already know it all- and look at anyone who isnt a JW as Satan. I do mean that.
Very sad thing to see happen to people.
 

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The JW letter quoted Isaiah 32:2- CONTEXT is something the watchtower doesnt ever pay attention to. So lets have a look--
Isaiah 32:1-8

See, a king will reign in righteousness
and rulers will rule with justice.
2 Each one will be like a shelter from the wind
and a refuge from the storm,
like streams of water in the desert
and the shadow of a great rock in a thirsty land.

3 Then the eyes of those who see will no longer be closed,
and the ears of those who hear will listen.
4 The fearful heart will know and understand,
and the stammering tongue will be fluent and clear.
5 No longer will the fool be called noble
nor the scoundrel be highly respected.
6 For fools speak folly,
their hearts are bent on evil:
They practice ungodliness
and spread error concerning the Lord;

the hungry they leave empty
and from the thirsty they withhold water.
7 Scoundrels use wicked methods,
they make up evil schemes
to destroy the poor with lies,
even when the plea of the needy is just.

8 But the noble make noble plans,
and by noble deeds they stand.


I think Isaiah says it all.
What do our JWs think?
 
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The JW letter quoted Isaiah 32:2- CONTEXT is something the watchtower doesnt ever pay attention to. So lets have a look--
Isaiah 32:1-8

See, a king will reign in righteousness
and rulers will rule with justice.
2 Each one will be like a shelter from the wind
and a refuge from the storm,
like streams of water in the desert
and the shadow of a great rock in a thirsty land.

3 Then the eyes of those who see will no longer be closed,
and the ears of those who hear will listen.
4 The fearful heart will know and understand,
and the stammering tongue will be fluent and clear.
5 No longer will the fool be called noble
nor the scoundrel be highly respected.
6 For fools speak folly,
their hearts are bent on evil:
They practice ungodliness
and spread error concerning the Lord;

the hungry they leave empty
and from the thirsty they withhold water.
7 Scoundrels use wicked methods,
they make up evil schemes
to destroy the poor with lies,
even when the plea of the needy is just.

8 But the noble make noble plans,
and by noble deeds they stand.


I think Isaiah says it all.
What do our JWs think?
Yes its truth, the house divided(hundreds of trinity religions with hundreds of different truths) will not stand because they teach a fake Jesus. God only has 1 truth, 1 religion( 1 Cor 1:10)
 

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The JW letter quoted Isaiah 32:2- CONTEXT is something the watchtower doesnt ever pay attention to. So lets have a look--
Isaiah 32:1-8

See, a king will reign in righteousness
and rulers will rule with justice.
2 Each one will be like a shelter from the wind
and a refuge from the storm,
like streams of water in the desert
and the shadow of a great rock in a thirsty land.

3 Then the eyes of those who see will no longer be closed,
and the ears of those who hear will listen.
4 The fearful heart will know and understand,
and the stammering tongue will be fluent and clear.
5 No longer will the fool be called noble
nor the scoundrel be highly respected.
6 For fools speak folly,
their hearts are bent on evil:
They practice ungodliness
and spread error concerning the Lord;

the hungry they leave empty
and from the thirsty they withhold water.
7 Scoundrels use wicked methods,
they make up evil schemes
to destroy the poor with lies,
even when the plea of the needy is just.

8 But the noble make noble plans,
and by noble deeds they stand.


I think Isaiah says it all.
What do our JWs think?
They think the Christian Bible is Satanic!
 

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Yes its truth, the house divided(hundreds of trinity religions with hundreds of different truths) will not stand because they teach a fake Jesus. God only has 1 truth, 1 religion( 1 Cor 1:10)
So, you are saying that the true Jesus lies and and steals food from the needy and then profits?
 
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They think the Christian Bible is Satanic!
They NEVER read context. They memorize verses and string them together in a mangled way.
The context of Is 32:2 really bit them here :Ohz What does Keiw do? yell about the trinity. lol

See, a king will reign in righteousness
and rulers will rule with justice.
2 Each one will be like a shelter from the wind
and a refuge from the storm,
like streams of water in the desert
and the shadow of a great rock in a thirsty land.

3 Then the eyes of those who see will no longer be closed,
and the ears of those who hear will listen.
4 The fearful heart will know and understand,
and the stammering tongue will be fluent and clear.
5 No longer will the fool be called noble
nor the scoundrel be highly respected.
6 For fools speak folly,
their hearts are bent on evil:
They practice ungodliness
and spread error concerning the Lord;
the hungry they leave empty
and from the thirsty they withhold water.
7 Scoundrels use wicked methods,
they make up evil schemes
to destroy the poor with lies,
even when the plea of the needy is just.

8 But the noble make noble plans,
and by noble deeds they stand.
 

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I can't even begin to get my head around this. If you know how your church handled this let me know. I didnt even hear about it from my church at the time because it was all donated. We take care of our own.- My daughter's church delivered several boxes to elderly church members and donated the rest to the needy. Some churches advertised via social media to the needy to come pick up- other churches delivered directly to those in need in their area. Others directed all of it to sister churches in poor areas, to their local food pantries,- wherever there was a need.

"Under the Trump administration due to covid in May of 2020 and ended in May of 2021- The USDA Farmers to Families Food Program began in May of 2020 and ended in May of 2021 having distributed more than 173 million food boxes of fresh produce, milk, dairy, cooked meats and seafood worth over $5 billion to Americans across the country. The program was designed and implemented as a temporary, emergency relief effort to respond to severe market disruption caused by a global pandemic. Distributors then packaged these products into family-sized boxes and transported them to;
food banks, community and faith-based organizations, and other non-profits serving Americans in need."

Inside each box was a letter from President Trump-
Not only did the JW Watchtower Society REMOVE the letters from President Trump from inside the food boxes for the needy- and REPLACE it with their OWN letter taking credit for this "free food"- they also donated nothing to the needy. They gave out these boxes only to JW members regardless of any need.
To top all lof that off, they actually took donations from members- (it was suggested by many elders to just give what you would have spent on groceries!) That money went to the Watchtower Society.
Let that sink in. --
My own siblings all received these boxes from 3 different kingdung halls- all of them were fully convinced that this food was a gift from their leaders at the Watchtower.
Do I have proof? I always do, so, Of course I do.

See WTBS letter below, then Trump's letter, then video and link to Food program.

View attachment 49029

Robert Hendriks, U.S. spokesman for the Jehovah’s Witnesses, confirmed that branches had circulated the letter with some boxes during the program’s early weeks.. “The wording here does not exactly represent necessarily what we have directed to our disaster relief committees,” Hendriks said.
When asked if the organization was distributing to Jehovah’s Witnesses only, Hendriks said that the organization also delivers food boxes to non-believers.

OK-Let's unravel what Mr Hendricks said-
The wording doesnt exactly represent what we wanted to be found out. OR are the brothers and member branches liars?
Remember, the WTBS has a long history of blaming members when they are caught with their pants down. 1975 end of the world PROPHECY is just one example. He didnt deny the letter.
Next- "distributed also to non- believers . LIE.-- Remember that they were told to keep this confidential- -- It was a secret! My brother admitted that much.
A JW who had another person in their house who was not a Jw is considered an unbeliever. So yeah.. like that counts
Would be Hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
As if that wasn't bad enough- The Watchtower made a profit off of food for the POOR from their own members..
It's kind of like a pyramid scheme.
Cult.

Any questions?

If the Watchtower is a 501c3 tax exempt religious organization, activists armed with this evidence should move to have the IRS rescind that designation.

As a start. Then,look into the potential for federal fraud charges next.
 
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So, you are saying that the true Jesus lies and and steals food from the needy and then profits?
So, you are saying that the true Jesus lies and and steals food from the needy and then profits?
Do you understand English? I never said anything that even resembled your false accusation.
 

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Do you understand English? I never said anything that even resembled your false accusation.
DO YOU READ ENGLISH? Read the thread! Your post certainly insuinated that!!!
 
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Cult.

Any questions?

If the Watchtower is a 501c3 tax exempt religious organization, activists armed with this evidence should move to have the IRS rescind that designation.

As a start. Then,look into the potential for federal fraud charges next.
Of course they are tax exempt.
They never contribute anything to anyone outside of themselves. I imagine there is plenty more illegal activity like that. And take note of the JWs here- they have NO PROBLEM with this.
It would mean that those who speak for God and feed them "spiritual food" of death are liars.
Cant have that. Those men are their mediators, not Jesus. and they will defend them nomatter what. You want to know what they most likely say after reading this?
" THOSE APOSTATES MADE THAT ALL UP TO PERSECUTE US! -- That proves that we are the truth!"
 

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They NEVER read context. They memorize verses and string them together in a mangled way.
The context of Is 32:2 really bit them here :Ohz What does Keiw do? yell about the trinity. lol

See, a king will reign in righteousness
and rulers will rule with justice.
2 Each one will be like a shelter from the wind
and a refuge from the storm,
like streams of water in the desert
and the shadow of a great rock in a thirsty land.

3 Then the eyes of those who see will no longer be closed,
and the ears of those who hear will listen.
4 The fearful heart will know and understand,
and the stammering tongue will be fluent and clear.
5 No longer will the fool be called noble
nor the scoundrel be highly respected.
6 For fools speak folly,
their hearts are bent on evil:
They practice ungodliness
and spread error concerning the Lord;
the hungry they leave empty
and from the thirsty they withhold water.
7 Scoundrels use wicked methods,
they make up evil schemes
to destroy the poor with lies,
even when the plea of the needy is just.

8 But the noble make noble plans,
and by noble deeds they stand.
You do this by quoting a Bible that seriously errs!
 
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