Satan Demons Angels and Spiritual Warfare

[Christian Soldier]

Again I'm needing to teach you.

11:14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 11:15 Therefore it is not surprising his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will correspond to their actions 2 Co 11:14–15.

What is the Context?
Who is Paul referring to?
Provide evidence from Corinthians!

Show from Scripture your understanding and don't force your false doctrines upon the Word

If you don't understand the text - ask!

F2F

There's nothing to interpret, those verses are straight forward. They apply to those who preach a false gospel, you know those guys in the pulpit, who just add a word here and remove a word there from Gods Word.

Gods elect are not fooled by them, but everyone else is.

Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

As you can see Gods Word confirms that's it's impossible to deceive His elect, so Satan can disguise Himself as an Angel of light al He likes but He will never deceive us.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Where does it say that in scripture?

That's the point, it doesn't say it because it was never given and it wasn't given because there was no need to give someone special powers because there would never be any need for the powers to be used.

You don't waste time equipping people to be able to do something that will never be required of them. Christ defeated the powers of darkness once and for all, they are on a very short chain and that makes them powerless against Gods people.

 

[face2face]

The serpent was shrewder than all other "beasts of the field." This attribute of subtility, shrewdness, or wisdom is commended by the Lord Jesus, who advised his disciples to be "as wise as serpents" (Matt. 10:16).

The word nachash (serpent) has been used to describe various animals: the crooked serpent (Job 26:13), the crocodile (Isa. 27:1; Amos 9:3, etc.). However, the reference to the serpent in Isaiah 65:25, "Dust shall be the serpent's meat," shows that the animal referred to in Genesis 3 was the serpent of the snake family.

F2F

@Christian Soldier stick around...you might learn a few things

 

[face2face]

God can do anything He pleases, but it's foolish to suggest that God gave a snake a voice and intelligence to destroy the people He created in His image.
To suggest that God would posses a snake for the purpose of destroying His people is ludicrous and foolish in the extreme.

So he didn't test them? you?
Maybe this again is showing a deficiency in your knowledge of Him.
More to learn C.
F2F

 

[face2face]

@Christian Soldier does it both you that the Serpent is placed along side the other creatures the Lord God had made? Does it concern you the shrewdness was intended by God to test their allegiance?

Why did God place two trees in the Garden, if He was not intending to test their faith?

I can see you haven't thought this through, again!

F2F

Note: the more we talk about this the more you will realise your being doesn't exist and isn't anywhere spoken of in all the OT - that must hurt!

 

[face2face]

There you go again, trying to make verses say what they are not saying so you can push your false religion.

There is no mention of Angel in Matt 11:10 it only mentions a man who was sent to proclaim a message.

Every time you keep digging a hole deeper and deeper!

Matthew 11:10

‘Look, I am sending my messenger (angel) ahead of you, who will prepare your way before you Mt 11:10.




same word for angel!

Human messengers and Divine messengers

F2F

 

[face2face]

There's nothing to interpret, those verses are straight forward.

There is your problem C. Out of your own mouth you condemn yourself to ignorance.
Lazy and slothful servants dont even try to find truth - they like the Macca's fast food approach.
F2F

 

[Christian Soldier]

The serpent was shrewder than all other "beasts of the field." This attribute of subtility, shrewdness, or wisdom is commended by the Lord Jesus, who advised his disciples to be "as wise as serpents" (Matt. 10:16).

The word nachash (serpent) has been used to describe various animals: the crooked serpent (Job 26:13), the crocodile (Isa. 27:1; Amos 9:3, etc.). However, the reference to the serpent in Isaiah 65:25, "Dust shall be the serpent's meat," shows that the animal referred to in Genesis 3 was the serpent of the snake family.

F2F

@Christian Soldier stick around...you might learn a few things

Your confusing figurative language with literal language, and that invariably leads to confusion and wrong assumptions just as you have perfectly demonstrated here.

Every Bible Scholar, Theologian and Church Father has arrived at the same conclusion regarding the identity of the Serpent in the book of Genesis. They all agree that it was Satan Himself, but you have somehow arrived at some strange unheard of conclusion.

You must be the only person holding to this strange unbiblical view, I staring to wonder if you belong to some strange cult because your theology in extremely unorthodox

 

[face2face]

There's nothing to interpret, those verses are straight forward.

This is a tell tale sign a person has error. It's like they are saying, NO! I wont look for fear of what I might find - and what of the consequences to my foundation and beliefs?

This is a true test for you and a public one at that.

F2F

 

[face2face]

Your confusing figurative language with literal language, and that invariably leads to confusion and wrong assumptions just as you have perfectly demonstrated here.

Every Bible Scholar, Theologian and Church Father has arrived at the same conclusion regarding the identity of the Serpent in the book of Genesis. They all agree that it was Satan Himself, but you have somehow arrived at some strange unheard of conclusion.

You must be the only person holding to this strange unbiblical view, I staring to wonder if you belong to some strange cult because your theology in extremely unorthodox

You're drowning - let me know when you come up for air!

 

[Christian Soldier]

So he didn't test them? you?
Maybe this again is showing a deficiency in your knowledge of Him.
More to learn C.
F2F

No, God didn't test them. Satan is the one who deceived them to drink the kool aid, not God

 

[face2face]

Every Bible Scholar, Theologian and Church Father has arrived at the same conclusion regarding the identity of the Serpent in the book of Genesis. They all agree that it was Satan Himself, but you have somehow arrived at some strange unheard of conclusion.

Exaggeration is another sign a person is losing ground.

They force an inferred argument back into the text because they have nothing, zip, zero, not a hint of evidence in the OT to support.

Really sad.

F2F

 

[Christian Soldier]

@Christian Soldier does it both you that the Serpent is placed along side the other creatures the Lord God had made? Does it concern you the shrewdness was intended by God to test their allegiance?

Why did God place two trees in the Garden, if He was not intending to test their faith?

I can see you haven't thought this through, again!

F2F

Note: the more we talk about this the more you will realise your being doesn't exist and isn't anywhere spoken of in all the OT - that must hurt!

But He does exist and He is spoken of in the bible from Genesis to Revelation. You have to be blind to miss it

 

[face2face]

No, God didn't test them. Satan is the one who deceived them to drink the kool aid, not God

Ah good that's what I needed from you!

So in affect, you are saying God didn't make the Serpent, or place the second tree in the Garden as the text reads.

you are on the run now C.

F2F

 

[face2face]

But He does exist and He is spoken of in the bible from Genesis to Revelation. You have to be blind to miss it

No it doesnt - that the point - its an imagination placed there by your blind leaders.

You know what? I think you thought this was an easy subject to proved but every time you have tried you have shown error.

When the error mounts up over and over you know what happens?

F2F

 

[Christian Soldier]

Every time you keep digging a hole deeper and deeper!

Matthew 11:10

‘Look, I am sending my messenger (angel) ahead of you, who will prepare your way before you Mt 11:10.


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same word for angel!

Human messengers and Divine messengers

F2F

Stop adding your words over Gods Word, it is an abomination in His sight. A messenger is not an Angel, it never meant that and it never will. You can't make this stuff up, and expect to get away with it.

 

[Fred J]

He doesn't need to deceive unbelievers as they are already blind.

He deceives them day to day, so they deceive themselves and many restraining them where he wants them (John 10:10/2Cor.4:4). But not as much as how he does to GOD's people, even ones who are more aware of him. The scripture depict, he does even more than that, with the inhabitants of the earth and sea.

Revelation 12:
12. Therefore rejoice, ye Heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Brethren, how the scripture is truth, are we not witnessing the situation under the sky, the earth and sea until to date? Aren't things within these realm are just spiraling from worse to worse and in disorder? Isn't it far from what good and in order GOD created in the beginning for the inhabitants?

Now, about demons;

Mark 5:
8. For He said unto him, "Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit."
9. And He asked him, "What is thy name?" And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.
12. And all the devils besought Him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.
13. And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: .................

i perceive by the wisdom given me, legion is a division of 3,000 - 6,000 unclean spirits in unity to be know as, demon. And even in the realm of darkness there's unity, even the worldly people who love their own (John 15:19).

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ

 

[face2face]

Stop adding your words over Gods Word, it is an abomination in His sight. A messenger is not an Angel, it never meant that and it never will. You can't make this stuff up, and expect to get away with it.

You don't how the word is being used.
All good some people cannot be taught.
You appear to be one of those.
F2F

 

[Christian Soldier]

This is a tell tale sign a person has error. It's like they are saying, NO! I wont look for fear of what I might find - and what of the consequences to my foundation and beliefs?

This is a true test for you and a public one at that.

F2F

No, I approached the verses saying. NO I won't try to change what Gods Word is clearly saying here. I don't have your approach, which is to twist every single verse to make them say the opposite

 

[Christian Soldier]

Exaggeration is another sign a person is losing ground.

They force an inferred argument back into the text because they have nothing, zip, zero, not a hint of evidence in the OT to support.

Really sad.

F2F

2000 years of teaching by the Church Fathers, is not a hint of evidence in your estimation. Wow