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Brother, it's not my intention to get people upset, but I think it would be best for each one to ask God what does He mean by worship. As believers who know the bible and know the Lord, is God is going to withhold judgment from a nation and church that hasn't acknowledged its sins and repented? He is the one we are essentially trying to fight against. Except the Lord keep the city the watchmen waken in vain. This isn't about politics, it's very much a spiritual matter.....and the politics is distracting the church from its mission.....our weapons are not supposed to be carnal. I find it comforting to remember that this world is not our home, we are just ambassadors from another kingdom passing through. We are just here to serve the Lord for HIS purposes. DT is not just about the USA, it's about much more than that....Israel/Jerusalem and the temple....and things prophesied about that. And God is sovereign over all this...He is watching over His word to perform it.

It is heartbreaking and tragic seeing how things are going with society now.....I don't like it any more than you do and we are so vexed like Lot, but we need to keep our trust and faith in the Lord no matter how bad things get. Like Lot, God will keep His own who remain faithful to Him. These days were prophesied, foreseen by God, and He has woven everything into HIS plans. Had a dream recently where I was like a mountain climber putting on all this equipment, harness, ropes and pulleys, boots etc, preparing and gearing UP to descend DOWN a mountainside. It seemed like a long and painful time of preparing and waiting and anticipating to begin the descent. Girding up and preparing for things to go downhill in the world, that we not be unprepared for it and lose our trust in God. We have enjoyed relative peace and comfort as Christians in the west for the past while in history, and if we are beginning not to feel at home in this corrupt and depraved world any more, that is a good thing, because the Lord is also in this way getting us ready for the return of our Saviour and to go to our real home. We need in our hearts to let go of this world.
Lizbeth, I'm sorry but this does not address my point. I do not worship trump. And I will challenge anyone who accuses me of such. I don't even see the man as a christian, but I do support his policies. AND if those policies are moral and godly then that is enough for me- because I do NOT see that from the left.
it is not being a part of the world or loving the world-- to vote. that's hilarious.
Believers who do not vote at all- only make it easier for those with evil policies to win.
Voting for evil POLICIES is being part of the world & loving sin.
YET what do we see? Shockingly there are people who profess to be Christians who will vote for the party that pushes all sorts of sexual immoralities and even onto our children.

Why? because they dont like trump- I still say LOOK at HIS POLICIES--- not at him!
I would not want to stand before the Lord to try and justify voting for evil policies out of my blind hatred for a man.

Because I anxiously await the return of my lord does not mean that I should lay down & hide and allow evil to flood over our children.
 

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Friendship with the world (aka compromise the gospel)....to fight a common 'enemy'. Except that is enmity with God.
Yet that is how they will be snared . you can see and see easily the love one has and who one loves above all
by who they obey . for many will easily disobey GOD in order to get their own man into office .
Now this will be their downfall , because there was a reason why GOD had said do not be unequally yoked
They will learn their ways and will beleive in time we serve the same God .
This was the plan o the elites all along .
THEIR visoin is far bigger than this political joke scape we see going on .
THE poltiical landscape is but a means to an end . they planted this into it .
see in large the left has long bought the idea
the evangelicals were kinda the last ones standing .
Kinda , cause a lot of them were tanked . but what i mean is
it was the evangelicals who did once stand upon and taught the preaching of the one true gospel
IT was they , whom they had to convince to cease it and rather just go along with the flow .
THESE people think these elites are really INTO who gets into office . NO THEY AINT
they are into another agenda and will use politics to get the end game of a world political system .
and how to do so , YOU NEED a world unified , including the relgioins
to have a common purpose , common ground goal , to work as one together for a common cause .
THEY DID IT sister . having , of course no idea satan was the one leading them into this mindset
so they could actually dupe the people into building a system for the dragon and the beast .
THE DEVIL USES the GREEDS adn lusts of men too . He has the elites duped as well .
As he do the much of the small , and the great , the poor and the rich , the churches and etc .
Satan dont care what you call him , if its budda , or allah , muhammed or whatever
SO LONG as you follow him , you worship him . HE even uses the name of JESUS . suprise suprise
but HE DO but its another jesus he gonna be a selling one .
 
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Lizbeth, I'm sorry but this does not address my point. I do not worship trump. And I will challenge anyone who accuses me of such. I don't even see the man as a christian, but I do support his policies. AND if those policies are moral and godly then that is enough for me- because I do NOT see that from the left.
it is not being a part of the world or loving the world-- to vote. that's hilarious.
Believers who do not vote at all- only make it easier for those with evil policies to win.
Voting for evil POLICIES is being part of the world & loving sin.
YET what do we see? Shockingly there are people who profess to be Christians who will vote for the party that pushes all sorts of sexual immoralities and even onto our children.

Why? because they dont like trump- I still say LOOK at HIS POLICIES--- not at him!
I would not want to stand before the Lord to try and justify voting for evil policies out of my blind hatred for a man.

Because I anxiously await the return of my lord does not mean that I should lay down & hide and allow evil to flood over our children.
Rest my friend . the point here is to get us back on what and WHO we should be focused on .
TIME to put GOD , CHRIST first again and get the real gospel out .
These leaders , suprise suprise , THEY DUPED my friend .
Trump didnt pull the abraham accords or the religoius tolerance act out of his baseball cap .
THE LIBERAL ELITES are the ones behind this . AND YET trump SUPPORTS and sells it .
WE BETTER watch out . there are things people do not know about trump .
I watched him the first time around . I actually listened to what he said
AND that was why i didnt vote for him . OH I know he has better ideals about the economy than ol liberal lefty biden and others
BUT man is that man slick . When he was running against all them other republicans the first time
I watched what he said on stage . AND SOME of his answers were bad news . YET CHRISTAINS EVEN CHEERED at some of them .
THEN i went into high investigation mode .
YOU See i heard him say what HE did about norman vincent peal so i went to research ol norman .
BAD NEWS DUDE that man was univiersal new age postive etc .
Then i watched as he was president
and i think it was about twenty nineteen . A man was speaking
i believe it was a jewish man , other relgions were present
The man said we all serve the same GOD , a LIE of course
but donald j trump was shaking his head UP AND DOWN IN AGREEMENT .
I knew then what i had suspsected about trump .
But something i also learned about a month ago .
Remember when i said the abraham peace accords , the religious tolerance act
comes right from the pope and vatican . IT DO .
But guess what POPE francis is a jesuit
GUESS who went to a jesuit school for two years . TRUMP DID . BOYS and GIRLS WE ARE GETTING and have been DECIEVED .
THEY IN THE SAME GAME , they are deceving the lott of us my friend .
 

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Lizbeth, I'm sorry but this does not address my point. I do not worship trump. And I will challenge anyone who accuses me of such. I don't even see the man as a christian, but I do support his policies. AND if those policies are moral and godly then that is enough for me- because I do NOT see that from the left.
it is not being a part of the world or loving the world-- to vote. that's hilarious.
Believers who do not vote at all- only make it easier for those with evil policies to win.
Voting for evil POLICIES is being part of the world & loving sin.
YET what do we see? Shockingly there are people who profess to be Christians who will vote for the party that pushes all sorts of sexual immoralities and even onto our children.

Why? because they dont like trump- I still say LOOK at HIS POLICIES--- not at him!
I would not want to stand before the Lord to try and justify voting for evil policies out of my blind hatred for a man.

Because I anxiously await the return of my lord does not mean that I should lay down & hide and allow evil to flood over our children.
And whatever you also do , Dont vote for harris either . never vote for or support a progressive inclusive common ground liberal .
Wait did i say common ground , yeah i did , cause that is who brought this common ground crap
into the evangelical realm . we better watch out
the liberals have offered up soup
and every soup kitchen has been opened up to the conservative churches .
SO the next time one visits one o them and sits under your rick warrne seeker friendly
finding common ground bridge builders and tearing down walls that divide speeches ,
YOU EATING LIBERAL SOUP baby and just cause it has been wrapped up in a can that says conservative or evangelical
YEAH ITS LIBERAL SOUP ya eating . JUST a heads up . WE BEEN INFILTRATED FOR MANY YEARS . sorry if that upsets
or offends one , i mean it aint always easy learning one has been duped , BUT man its better to feel a bit of a sting now
and repent than to feel the heck of a bite one is gonna feel on the DAY OF THE LORD for having contunied eating that soup .
 

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Lizbeth, I'm sorry but this does not address my point. I do not worship trump. And I will challenge anyone who accuses me of such. I don't even see the man as a christian, but I do support his policies. AND if those policies are moral and godly then that is enough for me- because I do NOT see that from the left.
it is not being a part of the world or loving the world-- to vote. that's hilarious.
Believers who do not vote at all- only make it easier for those with evil policies to win.
Voting for evil POLICIES is being part of the world & loving sin.
YET what do we see? Shockingly there are people who profess to be Christians who will vote for the party that pushes all sorts of sexual immoralities and even onto our children.

Why? because they dont like trump- I still say LOOK at HIS POLICIES--- not at him!
I would not want to stand before the Lord to try and justify voting for evil policies out of my blind hatred for a man.

Because I anxiously await the return of my lord does not mean that I should lay down & hide and allow evil to flood over our children.
I do look at some of his policies . and i am telling us all
that the abraham peace accords and the religoius tolerance act is of anti christ , NOT GOD , NOT christ .
LOOK at it .
 

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Rest my friend . the point here is to get us back on what and WHO we should be focused on .
TIME to put GOD , CHRIST first again and get the real gospel out .
These leaders , suprise suprise , THEY DUPED my friend .
Trump didnt pull the abraham accords or the religoius tolerance act out of his baseball cap .
THE LIBERAL ELITES are the ones behind this . AND YET trump SUPPORTS and sells it .
WE BETTER watch out . there are things people do not know about trump .
I watched him the first time around . I actually listened to what he said
AND that was why i didnt vote for him . OH I know he has better ideals about the economy than ol liberal lefty biden and others
BUT man is that man slick . When he was running against all them other republicans the first time
I watched what he said on stage . AND SOME of his answers were bad news . YET CHRISTAINS EVEN CHEERED at some of them .
THEN i went into high investigation mode .
YOU See i heard him say what HE did about norman vincent peal so i went to research ol norman .
BAD NEWS DUDE that man was univiersal new age postive etc .
Then i watched as he was president
and i think it was about twenty nineteen . A man was speaking
i believe it was a jewish man , other relgions were present
The man said we all serve the same GOD , a LIE of course
but donald j trump was shaking his head UP AND DOWN IN AGREEMENT .
I knew then what i had suspsected about trump .
But something i also learned about a month ago .
Remember when i said the abraham peace accords , the religious tolerance act
comes right from the pope and vatican . IT DO .
But guess what POPE francis is a jesuit
GUESS who went to a jesuit school for two years . TRUMP DID . BOYS and GIRLS WE ARE GETTING and have been DECIEVED .
THEY IN THE SAME GAME , they are deceving the lott of us my friend .
Once again. I DO put God first.
I never said Trump is a christian. He goes to church- he thanks God in a speech, but he has never asked for forgiveness therefore, he does not know MY God. That could change. Pray for him.
If he ever tries to lead us to the UN's bahai faith or any other god I will not listen to him.
I know who MY GOD IS.
You dont like the abraham accords and I have no opinion on it yet. I dont want to make a false accusation.
I know what school he attended. Did he have a say? No. I dont read into things that do not have sound support. You have conjecture. A suspicion. I am utilizing only facts.
I have always had one eye on trump. I was never a tv fan of his or a fan at all. I thought he was a big mouth arrogant, money loving jerk. He may very well be all of those things to this day. I dont know him. NO ONE here KNOWS him. I dont want to invite him over for Thanksgiving dinner. I look only at what is best for my nation and our kids.
He is another fallen human who needs Jesus Christ like everyone else- but who happens to have some good policies for America and for our children.
IF anything he does fulfills prophecy then so be it. That isnt up to me or you, but is SOLELY up to GOD.
I will NOT forfeit the chance to vote OUT the blatant evil party. If you don't, then the lives of those little kids is on you.
 

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I do look at some of his policies . and i am telling us all
that the abraham peace accords and the religoius tolerance act is of anti christ , NOT GOD , NOT christ .
LOOK at it .
You will need to explain that to us.
What is antichrist is the UNITED NATIONS. and that = the left & the right rinos but--- not Trump. (so far)
 
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Because he is a trump supporter you will over look this .
Because hims supports trump .
Many will wail on the day of the LORD .
this church dont care what anyone believes , so long as they beleive in the one they voting for .
a false gospel has been presented and no one gives a crap , just hey LETS VOTE FOR TRUMP .
I must leave for a while . this is very hard to watch and see and it truly breaks my heart . I wished such good
for the people . i truly did .
You've no idea what you're talking about.

Liz seems to think harassing someone for an answer to their faith is a positive.
 

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It's in

Matthew 5:13-16
13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.../KJV
Yes, I knew that was the Scripture being used, but it's being misused. The light we reveal to the world isn't the sun reflecting off the blades of swords and spears and the muzzles of our M16s. It isn't the light of a preemptive strike against evil doers in anticipation of the second coming.

KJV 2 Timothy 1:6-12
6 Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands.
7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.
12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

KJV 2 Corinthians 4:1-10
1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;
2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.

KJV Luke 9:54-56
54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

It is no part of Christ's mission to compel men to receive Him. It is Satan, and men actuated by his spirit, that seek to compel the conscience... There can be no more conclusive evidence that we possess the spirit of Satan than the disposition to hurt and destroy those who do not appreciate our work, or who act contrary to our ideas.

KJV John 3:17-21
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

KJV John 15:18-21
18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep your's also.
21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.
 

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What does that mean Brakelite? That we must stop eating bacon and keep saturday sabbaths? that is how you define righteousness after all.
You are revealing your ignorance of not only Adventist thinking, but scriptural truth.
The righteousness of God is the character of Christ. Christ, Who came to reveal the Father to mankind, offers man the same life that He received from His Father. It is as we receive Christ, we receive His righteousness. Christ in us, the hope of glory.
KJV Romans 8:29
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
 

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You are revealing your ignorance of not only Adventist thinking, but scriptural truth.
The righteousness of God is the character of Christ. Christ, Who came to reveal the Father to mankind, offers man the same life that He received from His Father. It is as we receive Christ, we receive His righteousness. Christ in us, the hope of glory.
KJV Romans 8:29
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
thank you buddy, Im not ignorant. But your interest and vigilance in the discussion over who the USA votes for as president, is clearly is about your SDA beliefs this time around. It's not like it's a secret.
 
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Rest my friend . the point here is to get us back on what and WHO we should be focused on .
OMG! Why are you even posting on a thread whose topic is not worshipping God to the max?

This thread is about practical living, including the field of ideas, aka politics. If all you can say is WHO we should be focusing o totally aside from the topic at hand, well!
 
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Lizbeth, I'm sorry but this does not address my point. I do not worship trump. And I will challenge anyone who accuses me of such. I don't even see the man as a christian, but I do support his policies. AND if those policies are moral and godly then that is enough for me- because I do NOT see that from the left.
it is not being a part of the world or loving the world-- to vote. that's hilarious.
Believers who do not vote at all- only make it easier for those with evil policies to win.
Voting for evil POLICIES is being part of the world & loving sin.
YET what do we see? Shockingly there are people who profess to be Christians who will vote for the party that pushes all sorts of sexual immoralities and even onto our children.

Why? because they dont like trump- I still say LOOK at HIS POLICIES--- not at him!
I would not want to stand before the Lord to try and justify voting for evil policies out of my blind hatred for a man.

Because I anxiously await the return of my lord does not mean that I should lay down & hide and allow evil to flood over our children.
Believe it or not, I understand your position and your concern for your nation. I really do. My concern is no different. I also mourn the loss of all the freedoms (it's similar here in Australia and possibly worse in NZ where I'm from) that we had as parents to raise our children as we see fit in the light of the gospel of Christ. The enemy, Satan, has wrought major mischief in society through education, entertainment, and government mandates against religious liberty. It doesn't however stop us from teaching our children at home, praying with them and for them, and trusting God to honor our faith and faithfulness.
I am not against voting. But these are the last days. The very last. The enemy has his agents on all sides of the political milieu. Do we really know who we vote for? I don't think many do. They believe the lies of the politicians and vote according to public sentiment and popularity. Yet they are being played. And I believe America is being played. And Australia and NZ and GB. In fact, the whole world is being played.
I don't think there are many Bible scholars and students of history and society in the Christian right who do not appreciate that the world is being run by a small group of elite powerful individuals who for some time has been playing one side off against the other. Hence why we have in nearly all countries, a left and right... Liberal and conservative... Socialist and capitalist etc etc. We have, over the last 200 or more years, witnessed swings that with each successive change in government or political movement, have gone to greater and greater extremes. Today, the swing to the left appears to many impossible to curtail, let alone understand. Are those in the Democratic party so stupid and blind as to not see the damage they are causing? Who is really at the helm of all these crazy woke policies and practices?
But if both sides are controlled by the one single power with its own agenda, and following the old Hegelian dialectic by supporting both thesis and antithesis, and deliberately controlling events and circumstances to foment conflict and division, and if the extremes are stretched sufficiently, the populace will cry out for relief. They will cry out for a new leader who will promise "peace and safety". And those powers who have designed the chaos, step up and offer the solution... Synthesis.
The elites in control as I said, have an agenda for the world. This agenda however would never, under ordinary circumstances, be accepted by many. But in times of desperation and crisis, which is where the present global movements and trending, then the world will accept anything to bring relief. Even a tyrant.
One thing I will stress. Those who hold the real power and pulling the strings, they are not secularists. Not by any stretch of the imagination. They are religious to the core, and their agenda is religious in all its intentions. They will certainly take on the guise of secular humanists, or even Protestant evangelical spirit filled Pentecostals if it suits them. But the end game, at least as far as their intention is concerned, is as you read in revelation 13. It's all about worship. And ultimately, the worship of Satan. But it won't be obvious. It will ostensibly be Christian. But it comes with great deception. Nothing is as it seems. Look deeper.
Have you asked yourself why so many influential leading politicians and legislators on both sides of the house were educated at Jesuit institutions? Have you wondered how it came to be that after only 100 or so years when protestant America taught their children to steer well away from Papal teachings and influence, you now have a majority Catholic vote in the supreme Court of your land? How is that even possible? It's because through lies, misinformation, and a general ignorance of history, Protestants now view Catholics as no different to themselves. Even on the same side with the same policies and with the same worldview. American protestantism is deceived and has been set up to fall. And the American public has been set up to welcome with open arms the next tyrant who offers peace and safety. And Trump didn't know who was leading PROJECT 2025? SERIOUSLY??
 
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Hmmm. I did not see ‘the Left’ in the post I was responding to.


Perhaps you are relying on inference rather than being explicit?
i would just go with context- here ya go- a copy n paste.
The problem though is that if we support his policies and say why- some people here equate that with worship.
Of course that's utterly absurd, but it doesnt stop it from happening. The rage we see it quite irrational.
 

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And whatever you also do , Dont vote for harris either . never vote for or support a progressive inclusive common ground liberal .
Wait did i say common ground , yeah i did , cause that is who brought this common ground crap
into the evangelical realm . we better watch out
the liberals have offered up soup
and every soup kitchen has been opened up to the conservative churches .
SO the next time one visits one o them and sits under your rick warrne seeker friendly
finding common ground bridge builders and tearing down walls that divide speeches ,
YOU EATING LIBERAL SOUP baby and just cause it has been wrapped up in a can that says conservative or evangelical
YEAH ITS LIBERAL SOUP ya eating . JUST a heads up . WE BEEN INFILTRATED FOR MANY YEARS . sorry if that upsets
or offends one , i mean it aint always easy learning one has been duped , BUT man its better to feel a bit of a sting now
and repent than to feel the heck of a bite one is gonna feel on the DAY OF THE LORD for having contunied eating that soup .
WHAT IS THIS ABOUT? IDK who you think you are- why should I take your advice about how to use my vote?
If it was left up to you this country would be far worse off than it is now!
You want us all to sit home and let the crazed leftists vote for the name of fake re-defined LOVE which is dubbed as inclusion and diversity- which is teaching and grooming helpless little children into every evil sexual immorality--!
You are NUTS! Stand the heck up you, coward! lions are supposed to be courageous.
 

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thank you buddy, Im not ignorant. But your interest and vigilance in the discussion over who the USA votes for as president, is clearly is about your SDA beliefs this time around. It's not like it's a secret.
We are a light to the world in offering the only real and effective solution to the sin problem. The life changing power of the Son of God.
You guys can use government to enact laws and exact penalties for transgression if that's what you want to do. And I have no doubt that there are some genuine Christians among you who firmly believe that such a program is what is needed. I don't. People need Jesus. Only He can truly change hearts and lives. And He needs to change those lives in the church whose doors and being knocked on. Hence why I said earlier, judgement begins in the house of God. Self judgement. Self examination. Sanctification of individual Christians by the power of the holy Spirit, then they can go out into the world and present the same gospel they themselves have received and their lives changed thereby. America doesn't need a "theocracy" led by finite egotistical self-serving fake ministers who themselves need the gospel of Jesus and be saved. What America needs is the humble heartfelt repenting soul searching surrender of the American Christian. "If My people, who are called by My name, should humble themselves and pray, seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then from heaven will I hear, forgive them of their sin, and heal their land". Note. God isn't asking the church to first go out into the world and call people to repentance until they themselves have first consecrated themselves and dedicated themselves to live exemplary lives changed by the power of God and a living witness to His grace. Then He will heal their land. If that's Adventist teaching, which it is, I'm not ashamed of it. Because it's also biblical.
 
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most folks do not care what anyone believes at all sister . sadly i meant christains .
all they seem so fixated upon is HOW WE GONNA GET MY MAN INTO OFFICE crap .
and yet that man , as is the other lady , all working the same agenda in different ways into their own groups .
Ever wonder why it is written CURSED is he whose hope is in men
BUT BLESSED IS HE WHOSE HOPE BE IN GOD . sister this is very hard and sad to see .
But onwards by the grace of the LORD i must go . Some will hear sister . the LORD always has a remnant
whose eyes and whose ears HE has opened . some will repent , but MOST WILL NOT sister .
these be the last of days .
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Because he is a trump supporter you will over look this .
Because hims supports trump .
Many will wail on the day of the LORD .
this church dont care what anyone believes , so long as they beleive in the one they voting for .
a false gospel has been presented and no one gives a crap , just hey LETS VOTE FOR TRUMP .
I must leave for a while . this is very hard to watch and see and it truly breaks my heart . I wished such good
for the people . i truly did .
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