Trump ~ guilty

[Wrangler]

The church needs to get it's own house in order before trying to correct the world.

No way! Christians that become obstacles to making the world a better place disgust me.

 

[Wrangler]

Wow - just wow. I have been reading the posts here, and I fail to see these conversations as being part of a "Christian Forum."

I do think people can find a forum in other places where we won't have to be seen as poor examples of Christian love. I'm always concerned when I see "hate-filled" dialog.

It goes to show the challenge of living the Christian life.

I practice Christianity - except for MONEY.
I practice Christianity - except for SEX.
I practice Christianity - except for RELATIONSHIPS WITH MEMBERS OF OPPOSITE SEX.
I practice Christianity - except for HOW I WORK.
I practice Christianity - except for HOW I DISCIPLINE MY KIDS.
I practice Christianity - except for MY VIEWS ON POLITICS.

I practice Christianity - except for HOW I LIVE MY LIFE OUTSIDE OF 1 HOUR PER WEEK IN CHURCH ...

 

[Wrangler]

The rage we see it quite irrational.

As usual, we see things the EXACT OPPOSITE.

Brother, it's not my intention to get people upset

It is my intention to get people upset. "i'm as mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore" is a classic.

 

[Lizbeth]

I have a Gay mate, knowen him from 1984 he has been married twice but now has become Gay ?
I do not know why, i do not understand such as to why. but he is still the same person he always was. but i think he has been possessed some how. inflicted with an injury i would say.
I only see him once a year say because he lives 3 hr's away.
But he is not the stupid lefty type Gay idiot moronic fool type.
I did not abandon him, for being Gay.
He and his evil poofter mate of some years ago, had a outright go at me for being a Christian, they tryed to get me wound up but i am not carnal but i know what carnal truly is all about. so i know them better than they know themselves. his poofter mate was very smart boy but his nastyness is his greatest infliction. but he thinks such is his power ?
Someone has messed with my mates mind ! that's the issue ! and the Governments are empowering such nonsense, for they are Possessed in fact !

I have seen such possession as this with another mate, who is not gay but messed up because of his elder sister evil boy friend played with his mind from a young age and messing him up in a stupid way. done due to a very controling type of evil person ! this possessed him ? a good bloke tho but with a bag of a problem that has. he is a christian and we went to the same church as kids. he got into drugs in a real bad way, as a band-aid to mask the issue.
I have seen the possession come out of him, talking all nice and then Bam ! evil ranting ego driven trash !
The real issue i think is that they believe that their strength is their real power ? so they will not open up truly openly, as to what their truly real problem is, that they have a fundamental issue with that they can not kick.

If one is ok with undermining other people at will, then that person themselves will be possessed by such as that as well, so they can not truly see past that. they could ? but they are stuck in such a rut.
We all can get stuck in a rut ! work etc.

I was stuck in a rut, going to school was one ! if i could go back in time, would i do it again and repeat that all over again, hell no !
Same with my working life, would i go back in time and repeat that all again, hell no ! I was a fool and the biggest idiot i know is myself in that regard, i would not tolerate such as being treated like that again. i would call such people out on the spot for being the bastards that they where. They were trying to take advantage of you ! They are idiots and sadistic morons, and such as they need a smack in the mouth.

I remember one Builder boasting that he gave a woman doing a job, that is hard work grouting in, payed by the meter but he only gave her half the pay because she was too fast and he said to her that no woman is worth that money. that has nothing to do with him at all in fact, he wanted a job done and named the price. If people like him get a drive by shooting at his house, i would not wonder why !
That's why the most evil people live in gated community's with armed guards, because they are such criminals !
Them and people from India and most very wealthy Jews i gave up on working for. because they do not like to pay. so i have no time for working for such people. i found out the hard way and got bitten to many times.
Work for a wage under another and you have no such problems to deal with.

I am a racist ! and i am proud of it too ! but i am not racial prejudice. that's a huge diffrence ! To come to understand people is not a Sin ! and i will point out many things that are wrong in regards Australians, why because if it's true then it's True, my mum is Danish but i do not give a rats, i do not wave their flag and i know enought Danish idiots in my day ! but the Italians here are the worse for idolising Italy for they boast such 24/7 but i get on with them just fine. and the blacks are totaly racial prejudice beyond the bounds of sanity ! and the MSM and Governments pander to their nonsense. but such nonsense does not fix the real issues and problems that they face in fact. so in 2000 years from now the same moronic issues will still pervail.

Number one, you must fix yourself up first and foremost ! and only Christ Jesus can do that for you, period ! outside of that is dead works.

People are the same as in every country you have the same issue with idiots, but their are cultural diffrences etc, that's fine and i do not go about demanding they change such for me. I find that such works their way for they know best in their own society ! but i find that the New age Mob want to demand everything is done their way ! but they are totaly ignorant bastards in fact and know jack about reality and like the green's they are not Green's at all in fact but Red Communist who only undermine everything like a spoilt brat does.

Doesn't it seem as though the restrainer has been taken away and devils are having more free reign now? People who have not the Lord are filling up with demons these days. The end time battle is heating up.

 

[Wrangler]

Anyone who is a true Christian who lives in this nation and is truly paying attention NOT to the TV, but to their actual policies WILL never vote LEFT. Voting FOR the party of every sort of sexual immorality is EVIL.- and that is antichrist. ----

AMEN!

 

[Wrangler]

WE DONT pick political sides
we dont hope in worldy politics .

Where does this outsourcing of justice to secular atheists mentality come from? It does not come from Scripture. Pastor Steve Cioccolanti's sermon last week reminded me of these golden nuggets.

1 Corinthians 6:3-4
3 Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! 4 So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church?

YHWH loves justice.
Ps 37:28

 

[rebuilder 454]

I just saw the breaking news and have to say I believe it's the right verdict. I just pray for the safety of those jurors knowing what Trump's supporters are capable of.

I know there are Trump supporters on the site but I hope he gets a long sentence.

If it were Your side , instead of Trump, half of America would be burned by insane democrat rioters, and every democrat would applaud their own cities destroyed

 

[Lizbeth]

No way! Christians that become obstacles to making the world a better place disgust me.

Does the bible say this world is going to become a better place or does it say transgression is coming to the full? But hypothetically if it were going to become better, the only way to do that would be to go into all the world and make more disciples, baptizing them in the name of Christ. That is the only mandate Jesus gave to His church.

 

[Lizbeth]

As usual, we see things the EXACT OPPOSITE.


It is my intention to get people upset. "i'm as mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore" is a classic.

Jas 1:20
For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

 

[rebuilder 454]

I just saw the breaking news and have to say I believe it's the right verdict. I just pray for the safety of those jurors knowing what Trump's supporters are capable of.

I know there are Trump supporters on the site but I hope he gets a long sentence.

Hard to believe you are that deceived.
You are playing devils advocate , correct?

 

[Wrangler]

Does the bible say this world is going to become a better place

No. The Bible says WE ARE TO MAKE the world be a better place. This is the meaning of the command for us to be salt and light.

 

[Lizbeth]

Where does this outsourcing of justice to secular atheists mentality come from? It does not come from Scripture. Pastor Steve Cioccolanti's sermon last week reminded me of these golden nuggets.

1 Corinthians 6:3-4
3 Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! 4 So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church?

YHWH loves justice.
Ps 37:28

That is speaking of settling disputes within the church, amongst believers. Not the world.

 

[Wrangler]

That is the only mandate Jesus gave to His church.

Christ gave us many mandates but not collectively - but as individuals. Why does the Bible say to work as though you are working for Christ? Colossians 3:22-24 Working diligently makes the world a better place.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Does the bible say this world is going to become a better place or does it say transgression is coming to the full? But hypothetically if it were going to become better, the only way to do that would be to go into all the world and make more disciples, baptizing them in the name of Christ. That is the only mandate Jesus gave to His church.

If you get granted a communist US ofA, you will be jailed, and 99% of all God given rights will vanish.
You have no idea what you are hoping for.

Ahem, no more evangelism.

 

[Lizbeth]

No. The Bible says WE ARE TO MAKE the world be a better place. This is the meaning of the command for us to be salt and light.

No this world is appointed to wrath, not appointed for improvement, sorry. As it was in the days of Noah so shall it be at the coming of the Son of Man. Noah saved souls OUT OF THE WORLD before the world got judged. He didn't make the world a "better place". Those who are saved are in the world but NOT OF IT....correct?

 

[Wrangler]

Jas 1:20
For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.

You are confusing an emotional state that motivates justice with seeking revenge.

Christ was as mad as hell and did not take it any more when he whipped people at the market and turned over tables. I think he worked the righteousness of God.

 

[Lizbeth]

If you get granted a communist US ofA, you will be jailed, and 99% of all God given rights will vanish.
You have no idea what you are hoping for.

Ahem, no more evangelism.

You apparently have no idea what I'm hoping for either.....I'm not hoping for evil. But the bible says our hopes and affections are to be ABOVE in any case.....true?

 

[Wrangler]

That is speaking of settling disputes within the church, amongst believers. Not the world.

It's more than that! It's condemning believers going to the outside world looking for justice - even regarding disputes within the church.

Christians have abdicated being a source of justice in the world. It started in Biblical times and has accelerated since WWII.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Is this a dream land????
People hoping trump goes to jail and America falls??????

 

[Wrangler]

No this world is appointed to wrath, not appointed for improvement, sorry.

Your analysis stops short. IF what you say is true, there would be no new earth and new heaven in our future. This new Earth is most certainly an improvement. And our Lord commanded us to accept that the Kingdom of God is within us.

Do you suppose Ps 37:28 is not for us to emulate? That God loves justice but we should rely on the unsaved and demonic for justice?