How to Effectively Study and Interpret of the Bible

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AW Bowman

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Thank you for posting that fine article. Yet, I think it also supports my position, i.e. without checking the
Greek, no one would know the difference in the usage of the word " love" in this referenced context.
 
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(I know this isn't the topic, it is tangential.)

I think this was because Peter always boasted of his great love for God (in contrast to how John always had himself as being loved by God, not having the focal point be his love for God), and, now, after having denied the Lord those three times, Peter was realizing he ought to think differently about himself, so he lowered his claims of his ostensible "great" love for God down to "phileo".
 

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After the center of Beryl passed through here (just a few miles west), and our area declared a disaster), and a few medical issues, I think I am back. It will still take a couple of days before I can post anything. So far, this has been a rather rough month!
 
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After the center of Beryl passed through here (just a few miles west), and our area declared a disaster), and a few medical issues, I think I am back. It will still take a couple of days before I can post anything. So far, this has been a rather rough month!
Are you and family OK?
 

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- Your understanding of scripture will never be complete (Tamam, perfect), so be open to correction and instruction.
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If my understanding of scripture will never be complete then 'other people's' understanding will equally never be complete. Then how/why should I be open to "other people's" correction and instruction when their understanding is equally not complete as my understanding?

How does this point jibe with Christ saying 'ye shall KNOW the truth' and with Paul telling the Ephesians when ye read ye may UNDERSTAND? Why/how is one to search the scriptures to see if things are true if no one's understanding is complete? If one's understanding cannot be complete, how can one know with any certainty that he actually possesses 'the truth' of scripture?
 

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Questions:

If my understanding of scripture will never be complete then 'other people's' understanding will equally never be complete. Then how/why should I be open to "other people's" correction and instruction when their understanding is equally not complete as my understanding?

How does this point jibe with Christ saying 'ye shall KNOW the truth' and with Paul telling the Ephesians when ye read ye may UNDERSTAND? Why/how is one to search the scriptures to see if things are true if no one's understanding is complete? If one's understanding cannot be complete, how can one know with any certainty that he actually possesses 'the truth' of scripture?
A most excellent question! As everyone's understanding is, and will be "incomplete" it is imperative that you validate the information you receive against the written word. You, and other folks should share (1) what they believe and (2) why the believe it. Seek out sources that you trust, and compare and evaluate everything, including your own position against the evidence presented to you. Does your current understanding stand up? Should your understanding be modified? There is a lot of strange teachings going around out there, so take care.

The purpose of this thread is provide tools to assist you in that process, not to tell what to think, but rather to provide a system by which you can evaluate what and you think as you do. A wise pastor/teacher once said, "If you do change your view of God every 5 years, you are brain dead." That is, you have not grown spiritually. May your studies be fruitful.
 
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Thanks for asking! I do have a medical issue - leaving to see the doctor again shortly, an all day affair /sigh/.
I really hope to see you fit and well @AW Bowman as I have Bob Utley's commentaries and also have his permission to share with the whole world.
 

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I really hope to see you fit and well @AW Bowman as I have Bob Utley's commentaries and also have his permission to share with the whole world.
Most excellent. Feel free to jump in with your contributions. In this thread I am looking to share only the process, not his conclusions. Sharing the how to study, not telling the what others concluded, so as not to upset anyone by thinking I am trying to tell them what to believe.
 
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Most excellent. Feel free to jump in with your contributions. In this thread I am looking to share only the process, not his conclusions. Sharing the how to study, not telling the what others concluded, so as not to upset anyone by thinking I am trying to tell them what to believe.
Give me an example as to what you want.
 

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For clarity, are you implying no one can ever have an accurate, correct understanding of the Bible?
Yes. First it is a spiritual growth process. Second, except for the person of Jesus Christ, no human ever fully understood
God, not even Moses. Moses could/would not obey God in everything. and had to pay a stiff price for his failure. If he fully knew God, he would not have failed in his disobedience. Third, we are to strive to become Christ like - who fully achieved that goal? No one. Forth, One day we shall all know who and what God really is - 1Cor 13:7-12.

Because the goal may not be fully obtained while on earth, we are to study, understand, and practice what we know to the fullest! In the process we gain further knowledge of God, gain in wisdom, and become more Christ like. Spiritual growth.

I pray this helps.
 
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Yes. First it is a spiritual growth process. Second, except for the person of Jesus Christ, no human ever fully understood
God, not even Moses. Moses could/would not obey God in everything. and had to pay a stiff price for his failure. If he fully knew God, he would not have failed in his disobedience. Third, we are to strive to become Christ like - who fully achieved that goal? No one. Forth, One day we shall all know who and what God really is - 1Cor 13:7-12.

Because the goal may not be fully obtained while on earth, we are to study, understand, and practice what we know to the fullest! In the process we gain further knowledge of God, gain in wisdom, and become more Christ like. Spiritual growth.

I pray this helps.
Correct.

Isaiah 55:8-9:

Text: "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts."
Hebrew Words:
Thoughts (מַחְשְׁבוֹת, machshavot): Plans, purposes, or intentions. The word suggests the deliberate and intricate plans of God that surpass human schemes.
Ways (דְּרָכַי, derakai): Paths, journeys, or manner of life. It emphasizes the moral and purposeful directions of God's actions.
Deuteronomy 29:29:

Text: "The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law."
Hebrew Words:
Secret (נִסְתָּרוֹת, nistarot): Hidden, concealed, or mysterious. This refers to the aspects of God's will and knowledge that remain beyond human understanding.
Revealed (נִגְלוֹת, niglot): Disclosed, uncovered, or made known. This pertains to the truths God has chosen to make known through Scripture and revelation.
Job 11:7:

Text: "Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty?"
Hebrew Words:
Fathom (חָקַר, chaqar): To search out, investigate, or explore. It signifies the human attempt to understand the depths of God's nature.
Mysteries (תַּעֲלֻמוֹת, ta'alumot): Secrets or hidden things. This underscores the hidden aspects of God's wisdom and plans.
Romans 11:33-34:

Text: "Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?"
Greek Words:
Unsearchable (ἀνεξιχνίαστος, anexichniastos): Impossible to track or trace out. It conveys the idea that God's judgments and ways are beyond human investigation.
Mind (νοῦς, nous): Intellect, understanding, or thought. Refers to the divine mind of God, which is beyond human comprehension.
1 Corinthians 2:9-10:

Text: "But, as it is written, 'What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love him'—these things God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God."
Greek Words:
Depths (βάθη, bathē): Depths or profound things. Refers to the deep and hidden things of God that the Holy Spirit reveals to believers.
Revealed (ἀποκαλύπτω, apokalypto): To uncover, disclose, or make known. This indicates the action of the Holy Spirit in making divine truths known to believers.
1 Timothy 6:15-16:

Text: "which he will display at the proper time—he who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no one has ever seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal dominion. Amen."
Greek Words:
Unapproachable (ἀπρόσιτος, aprositos): Inaccessible or unapproachable. It emphasizes the transcendence and holiness of God, who is beyond human reach.
Immortality (ἀθανασία, athanasia): Deathlessness or immortality. It highlights God's eternal nature, which is fundamentally different from human existence.
Conclusion
These passages and word studies illustrate the profound and often mysterious nature of God, whose thoughts, ways, and judgments are beyond human comprehension. The Hebrew and Greek terms further enrich our understanding of these concepts, emphasizing God's transcendence and the depth of His wisdom. They remind us of the importance of humility and reverence in our approach to theology and the study of Scripture.
 
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Yes. First it is a spiritual growth process. Second, except for the person of Jesus Christ, no human ever fully understood
God, not even Moses. Moses could/would not obey God in everything. and had to pay a stiff price for his failure. If he fully knew God, he would not have failed in his disobedience. Third, we are to strive to become Christ like - who fully achieved that goal? No one. Forth, One day we shall all know who and what God really is - 1Cor 13:7-12.

Because the goal may not be fully obtained while on earth, we are to study, understand, and practice what we know to the fullest! In the process we gain further knowledge of God, gain in wisdom, and become more Christ like. Spiritual growth.

I pray this helps.
I agree that no one can fully understand God, cannot fully understand His power, His Providence, His all knowing abilities.

But I am specifically speaking about the word of God. Are you claiming God's written word can never be understood correctly by man?
 
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I agree that no one can fully understand God, cannot fully understand His power, His Providence, His all knowing abilities.

But I am specifically speaking about the word of God. Are you claiming God's written word can never be understood correctly by man?
Do you see unity in doctrine on this Forum? What is Epignosis?