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Walking in the Spirit is not comparable to anything earthly. It has to be experienced to understand how that can be.

I agree with this statement. I want to share that my first time I experienced walking in the Spirit, was for about a month. It happened close to a year after being Born Again. It came to an end, when I willingly let my flesh win over a small matter, and found myself in a miserable state. I have experienced small bouts of walking in the Spirit, temporarily since then.

I also want to thank Epi/John for talking about this subject here on the forum. He has given information through his posts, that have helped to go to God, to understand more about my original experience, and that it is God that brings us into the Spirit walk. I believe the way God lead me into my first walk in the Spirit, was giving me a desire to be like Jesus. In heart, mind, words, actions and love.
 

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I agree with this statement. I want to share that my first time I experienced walking in the Spirit, was for about a month. It happened close to a year after being Born Again. It came to an end, when I willingly let my flesh win over a small matter, and found myself in a miserable state. I have experienced small bouts of walking in the Spirit, temporarily since then.

I also want to thank Epi/John for talking about this subject here on the forum. He has given information through his posts, that have helped to go to God, to understand more about my original experience, and that it is God that brings us into the Spirit walk. I believe the way God lead me into my first walk in the Spirit, was giving me a desire to be like Jesus. In heart, mind, words, actions and love.
Good to hear. :) We need to encourage one another into the upward calling of Christ.

Peace and blessings to you <><
 

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I understand "the Spirit came upon . . ." such and such person, that this is different from being baptized into Christ and rebirth.

The Spirit came upon Sampson and he did mighty works of strength. The Spirit came upon others at times for various purposes. But then the Holy Spirit left Saul, and I don't believe the born again will ever be absent the Holy Spirit, for He has promised, I will never leave you nor forsake you.

Here again . . . the Holy Spirit on them, but not "in them".

marks, it says “The Spirit of the Lord will come powerfully upon you, and you will prophesy with them; and you will be changed into a different person. . . . God is with you” 1 Sam 10: 6–7, note, a different person. This is nothing but the new creation in Christ when we are changed like this. Also it says God is with you, not God is visiting you.

The Holy Spirit indeed, never leaves us or forsakes us, but we are free to leave Him, whenever we choose. The early church without exception, taught free will and the P from TULIP only came along with Augustine.
I personally see our state of regeneration as different from Adam's original state, mainly that he was an innocent man in an uncorrupted body. We are corrupted in corrupted bodies, then being reborn we are righteous and holy in corrupted bodies, then in our resurrection our righteous and holy recreated spirit will live in glorious bodies like Jesus' body, and we will be spiritaully stabilized, if you will, by our inner unity with Christ, unable to sin, it will be beyond our nature, unlike Adam, who had that opportunity. As I see it.

I agree with Adams' innocence. God's plan for him was that he would gain the spiritual state through obedience, in denying the physical or fleshy but Adam failed as we know, and mankind thereby followed his example, Satan having earned ownership somewhat of every man till he is saved from that bondage.

The early church taught that glorification happens in this life, as is found in scripture, that we are united with Christ, in actuality not just positionally. I don't believe in original sin, and the early church didn't either, and there is little evidence in the Bible for it, but that all men do fall, sometime in childhood and every man needs to be saved from Satan's clutches.
Amen, and examples they are!! If they could do what they did without regeneration, I'd better look to myself, and live according to the light I'm given. Where more is given more is required.

Amen!
Much love!
It's a bit shocking to see how far Protestantism has fallen from the teachings of the early church, and I believe that it is because from it's outset, it was not led by men who were walking in the Spirit, like the early church, and so the belief in entire sanctification was never mainstream as it was then. It would later become popular for a time during revivals, but always resisted by the powers that be.

Instead people followed the teachings of men, like Luther, Calvin, Augustine who were not holy men as of old and therefore not taught directly by the Spirit in interpreting scripture.
 
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Consider the difference between us and them, that they required ongoing sacrifice, and we are under the once for all sacrifice of Christ. We don't need continued sacrifices because we have been baptized into Christ, His death saves us to the uttermost.

Much love!
The sacrifice was, I believe only for those Jews who were not trusting in God alone for their righteousness as was Job, who sacrificed for his sons and not himself.
 
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God is in our spirit, we have been Born Again of His seed, that seed is the Holy Spirit, comes by mighty divine revelation, a Born Again has a Living relationship with God via His Spirit, ...the Spirit is the one who is working in our hearts/ spirit all day every day...

When we became Born Of The Spirit, we received a new heart and spirit within....we are not our own, it’s because of the death of Jesus that we can become Born Again, the cross and death of Jesus does not make our spirit Born Again, only God can birth our spirit into his....which comes by heart/ spirit revelation ,testifying with our spirit that we are Gods children....it’s good to study and be led through the penned word, it can only be understood in our spirit as a child of God...
We were grafted into the true vine by Gods mercy and grace , for his purpose and plan, to Glorify His Name!!.....a Witness for Him.....the closer we become with God in spirit as His Spirit works in our hearts/ spirit to bear Jesus fruit and to be made into his image, we become more and more like Jesus....
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

Also a Born Again will never fail in any task that the Father sets before them, they have been anointed for such a task, the power of the Spirit leads them to understand and do the will of the Father, they keep growing in spiritual understanding/ matters....all in God’s timing....you know in your spirit when you are being led by the Spirit Of God.....again this all takes time to understand, taken 33 years for me to understand the leading of the Spirit.....and still I’m learning by Gods Living Witness, His Living Holy Spirit who is Alive and Active in my heart/ spirit...we never stop learning as a spirit child of God.....I have followed men’s teachings to be shown by the Spirit that I only follow His teachings which are Spirit and truth.....therefore I follow no man anymore....that was a good learning lesson....without the right foundation to build on....it’s none other than confusion...which is not of God.

“And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts (some translations have: “with its passions and desires”). If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.” (Galatians 5:24-25 KJV)



“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the Kingdom of God.” (Galatians 5:19-21 KJV)


Berean Standard Bible
And as for you, the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But just as His true and genuine anointing teaches you about all things, so remain in Him as you have been taught

2 Corinthians 3:18
Audio Crossref Comment Greek
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

New Living Translation
So all of us who have had that veil removed can see and reflect the glory of the Lord. And the Lord—who is the Spirit—makes us more and more like him as we are changed into his glorious image.

English Standard Version
And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.

Berean Standard Bible
And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into His image with intensifying glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.


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Never underestimate the Power Of God.....it’s beyond our human comprehension...His ways and thoughts are so much higher than ours!!!

Jesus came to do the will of his Father, his will was in harmony/ line with the Fathers.

A Born Again learns to come into the will of the Father, we are spirit children therefore our helper and teacher is the Holy Spirit......we learnt from our natural parents.....a spirit child learns from God as God is a Spirit....hence we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.

It’s a narrow path that we walk, has many twists and turns, far from easy, yet it’s the only way...along that narrow path we encounter the good the bad and the downright ugly.

In all situations look to God....
 
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How are you justified?

Why will God let you into heaven.

My reading comprehension is fine my friend.
We should read on Job .
Job tried rather to justify Himself .
Anyone who would try and deny the fact one must believe on JESUS the CHRIST
and thinks rather they can do this without belief on HIM . WELL they justify themselves NOT GOD .
And boy do i see this increase specially in these latter years .
So lets answer those three questions .
BY FAITH IN JESUS THE CHRIST , IN HE ALONE is one justified .
Again there will be no entrance into the Kingdom of heaven without Faith IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
As far as what did i earn , the wrath of GOD
NOW THANK GOD for HIS MERCY in JESUS THE CHRIST that no longer i get what i earned
but rather eternal life provided BY JESUS THE CHRIST .
Let any who boasts , boasts simply in the GOOD LORD and HIS grace . Boast in the LORD .
For in the heart of man lies much wickedness
and though men can do good at times , even seem so caring
THERE IS NONE who IS GOOD in the sight of GOD . THE ONLY man , or should i say THE WORD became flesh ,
WHO WAS AND IS GOOD , IS the one WE NEED , that be JESUS the CHRIST .
Just a very needful reminder . Too many think they can pick up their own cross
and by their own righteousness can attain . IT JUST aint gonna happen .
IN fact to DENY GOD is total bad news . IF one denies THE CHRIST they have denied the Father .
The jews sought to attain , but did so without faith , DIDNT WORK OUT TOO GOOD either .
My advice , is that we continually point and point continually , to remind continually
OF the absolute dire necessity for one to repent and beleive on JESUS the CHRIST and to teach all things HE did teach
and later the apostels did so by the Spirit .
 

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God is in our spirit, we have been Born Again of His seed, that seed is the Holy Spirit, comes by mighty divine revelation, a Born Again has a Living relationship with God via His Spirit, ...the Spirit is the one who is working in our hearts/ spirit all day every day...

When we became Born Of The Spirit, we received a new heart and spirit within....we are not our own, it’s because of the death of Jesus that we can become Born Again, the cross and death of Jesus does not make our spirit Born Again, only God can birth our spirit into his....which comes by heart/ spirit revelation ,testifying with our spirit that we are Gods children....it’s good to study and be led through the penned word, it can only be understood in our spirit as a child of God...
We were grafted into the true vine by Gods mercy and grace , for his purpose and plan, to Glorify His Name!!.....a Witness for Him.....the closer we become with God in spirit as His Spirit works in our hearts/ spirit to bear Jesus fruit and to be made into his image, we become more and more like Jesus....
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

Also a Born Again will never fail in any task that the Father sets before them, they have been anointed for such a task, the power of the Spirit leads them to understand and do the will of the Father, they keep growing in spiritual understanding/ matters....all in God’s timing....you know in your spirit when you are being led by the Spirit Of God.....again this all takes time to understand, taken 33 years for me to understand the leading of the Spirit.....and still I’m learning by Gods Living Witness, His Living Holy Spirit who is Alive and Active in my heart/ spirit...we never stop learning as a spirit child of God.....I have followed men’s teachings to be shown by the Spirit that I only follow His teachings which are Spirit and truth.....therefore I follow no man anymore....that was a good learning lesson....without the right foundation to build on....it’s none other than confusion...which is not of God.

“And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts (some translations have: “with its passions and desires”). If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.” (Galatians 5:24-25 KJV)



“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the Kingdom of God.” (Galatians 5:19-21 KJV)


Berean Standard Bible
And as for you, the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But just as His true and genuine anointing teaches you about all things, so remain in Him as you have been taught

2 Corinthians 3:18
Audio Crossref Comment Greek
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

New Living Translation
So all of us who have had that veil removed can see and reflect the glory of the Lord. And the Lord—who is the Spirit—makes us more and more like him as we are changed into his glorious image.

English Standard Version
And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.

Berean Standard Bible
And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into His image with intensifying glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.


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Never underestimate the Power Of God.....it’s beyond our human comprehension...His ways and thoughts are so much higher than ours!!!

Jesus came to do the will of his Father, his will was in harmony/ line with the Fathers.

A Born Again learns to come into the will of the Father, we are spirit children therefore our helper and teacher is the Holy Spirit......we learnt from our natural parents.....a spirit child learns from God as God is a Spirit....hence we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.

It’s a narrow path that we walk, has many twists and turns, far from easy, yet it’s the only way...along that narrow path we encounter the good the bad and the downright ugly.

In all situations look to God....
In all situtations look to GOD . and yet many look not to His Christ .
if a man looks not unto THE CHRIST and yet claims he is born again , that man has decieved himself .
For a man saying or believing there is no need to have Believed on JESUS the CHRIST
calleth JESUS accursed . AND BY the HOLY SPIRIT no man calls HIM accursed , THEY CALL HIM LORD .
too many are trying to bring the idea that we dont need to BELIEVE . JESUS said we DID
and thus the SPIRIT would confirm that . The SPIRIT of the HOLY GOD
would not draw one into a false religoin and then present ideas about how it can pick up its own cross .
THE HOLY SPIRIT testifies OF JESUS THE CHRIST . a fact most better learn real quickly as we have us
many decievers in these last days who have come in to draw away desciples after a lie that will not save but only grave .
 
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A novice looks for evil in anything unfamiliar. You want to fight against evil...look within

In all situtations look to GOD . and yet many look not to His Christ .
if a man looks not unto THE CHRIST and yet claims he is born again , that man has decieved himself .
For a man saying or believing there is no need to have Believed on JESUS the CHRIST
calleth JESUS accursed . AND BY the HOLY SPIRIT no man calls HIM accursed , THEY CALL HIM LORD .
too many are trying to bring the idea that we dont need to BELIEVE . JESUS said we DID
and thus the SPIRIT would confirm that . The SPIRIT of the HOLY GOD
would not draw one into a false religoin and then present ideas about how it can pick up its own cross .
THE HOLY SPIRIT testifies OF JESUS THE CHRIST . a fact most better learn real quickly as we have us
many decievers in these last days who have come in to draw away desciples after a lie that will not save but only grave .
Walk the talk and don't talk the walk.
Hi brother.
 
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In all situtations look to GOD . and yet many look not to His Christ .
if a man looks not unto THE CHRIST and yet claims he is born again , that man has decieved himself .
For a man saying or believing there is no need to have Believed on JESUS the CHRIST
calleth JESUS accursed . AND BY the HOLY SPIRIT no man calls HIM accursed , THEY CALL HIM LORD .
too many are trying to bring the idea that we dont need to BELIEVE . JESUS said we DID
and thus the SPIRIT would confirm that . The SPIRIT of the HOLY GOD
would not draw one into a false religoin and then present ideas about how it can pick up its own cross .
THE HOLY SPIRIT testifies OF JESUS THE CHRIST . a fact most better learn real quickly as we have us
many decievers in these last days who have come in to draw away desciples after a lie that will not save but only grave .
No man can call Jesus Lord except by the Holy Spirit.

Amen!!!...The Holy Spirit testifies Of JESUS CHRIST....

I don’t believe a Born Again can be taken from Christ as the Father has already testified that truth to my heart/ spirit.....we can most definitely be deceived though....Gods in control so I have no worry of that anymore.

I only go to him for all that I don’t understand.....even then, he doesn’t reveal everything to me, neither does he have to.....he revealed his truth to my spirit via His Spirit.....that’s what my foundation is being built on...knowing in my heart/ spirit I’m a child of the most high, Jesus died so that my sins can be forgiven and they were, when I became a spirit child...my testimony and belief.

No one can come to the Father except through the Son....Jesus is his name.....and we are being made into his image!!
 
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The sacrifice was, I believe only for those Jews who were not trusting in God alone for their righteousness as was Job, who sacrificed for his sons and not himself.
Think that might be a little hint of Jesus not needing to sacrifice for Himself.

I know it's easy to sometimes forget other scriptures in tracking with another train of thought......just as a reminder, we must not forget the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world....before the Law was given to the Jews. And this self-same gospel is to the Jew first then the Gentile. Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. No man can come to the Father, but by Me, Jesus said. He was only revealed in the fullness of time in the first Century, but His sacrifice avails and reaches back in time to the beginning of the world just as it reaches into the time future. Those saints who had genuine faith in God in times before Jesus still needed the gospel preached and revealed to them...which Jesus went and did in the time between His crucifixion and resurrection....".they without us would not be made perfect" (complete). And Romans 4..."this blessedness" for both the circumcision and uncircumcision is through faith in His blood.
 
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Think that might be a little hint of Jesus not needing to sacrifice for Himself.

I know it's easy to sometimes forget other scriptures in tracking with another train of thought......just as a reminder, we must not forget the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world....before the Law was given to the Jews. And this self-same gospel is to the Jew first then the Gentile. Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. No man can come to the Father, but by Me, Jesus said. He was only revealed in the fullness of time in the first Century, but His sacrifice avails and reaches back in time to the beginning of the world just as it reaches into the time future. Those saints who had genuine faith in God in times before Jesus still needed the gospel preached and revealed to them...which Jesus went and did in the time between His crucifixion and resurrection....".they without us would not be made perfect" (complete). And Romans 4..."this blessedness" for both the circumcision and uncircumcision is through faith in His blood.
I agree with you. Sorry I must have been unclear. I meant that those Jews who had genuine faith were under the sacrifice of Christ, the others depended on the sacrifice of animals.
 
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Walk the talk and don't talk the walk.
Hi brother.
Jesus did both . the apostels did both . we must do both .
Walk the talk and talk the walk .
Hear the parable of the four men and an agenda .
Once a man walked on a long journey .
Upon his travels he met a man who sold an agenda .
A man was standing amongst the crowds
and showing them three men at work .
All three were busy hugging folks and talking non stop about doing good to others
about loving their neighbor as their self .
The crowd was mesmorized at this
and many within the crowd began to say , well it sure dont seem to matter
what these three men believe , they seem to be doing the same things . Like feeding the poor
talking a lot about loving their neighbor as their selves .
GEE said the crowd , the UNSUSPECTING crowd , maybe they do worship the same GOD .
I mean after all they do seem to love one another and do seem to do good works
as even JESUS CHRIST had said to do .
But then a fourth voice was heard amongst the crowd .
And it said , this is a guise , its a delusoin meant to make us think all these religoins worship the same God .
But its impossible that they do .
And the crowd jeered at the fourth voice . And say YOU fundmenatal piece of trash who hates .
You need to silence your lips and just Walk the walk .
To which the fourth voice then replied , do you not know
that satan has entrapped these souls , as he has all religoins . He has them simply finding common ground
doing A version of what JESUS himself said , BUT DENYING THAT VERY CHRIST himself .
To which the angry crowd said , YOU wicked pig , you demon who knows not love .
GOD is love they cried and we can see his love in all these people . IT dont matter what version , what religoin ,
what they beleived , it matters what they are doing .
TO which again the fourth voice cried . Satan has always convinced man
that through his own beliefs and his own merits he can attain to GOD .

to which the angry crowd yelled , you bible believing piece of trash , you worship a book ,
you are a hater .
To which the fourth man said , I be not the hater , its the devil who is the hater
and has thus preached a message based on his own version of what it means to love GOD and your neighbor .
And yet his message DENIES the DIRE NEED to actually first BELEIVE GOD .
To which the angry crowd yelled , YOU anti christ , you devil , you son of peridtion
THEY DO believe GOD , look at them they hug one another , they all get along
they all do a form of good works and feed the poor .
TO which the fourth voice said , HAD THEY BELIEVED GOD they would have BELIEVED HIS CHRIST .
HAD they loved GOD they would have LOVED HIS CHRIST
and if they loved HIS CHRIST they would have loved HIS COMMANDMENTS .
to which the angry crowd screamed THEY DO LOVE HIS COMMANDEMNTS you demon of a man , anti christ piece of trash .
TO which the man then said , And what DID JESUS COMMAND .
and they said TO LOVE YOUR NIEGHBOR as yourself
to which the man then replied , YA FORGOT SOMETHING .
Here let me show you in this book you call hate speech , which is the actual bible .
AND HERE IS HIS commandments , THAT WE BELIEVE , BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST and WE LOVE ONE ANOTHER .
AMEN and THE END . something is wrong johann . BIG TIME and i have come to expose it .
 

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Oh I see....sorry for misunderstanding!
If a man hears not you , then he hears not me and if he hears not me he hears not HE WHO SENT ME .
Folks are forgetting fast , if ever they truly knew
that Abraham BELIEVED GOD . take note that says BELIEVED GOD
and yet if anyone dares to make mention of the word BELIEVE , its seen as
religious dribble .
Now if a man beleives NOT in JESUS THE CHRIST , WHO ya think they are not believing , IN HE WHO SENT HIM .
there is a massive attack now to convince folks to even try and dare remind folks
about BELEIVING is some how a ego , self professed message .
WHEN IN TRUTH . IT IS WRITTEN . Abraham BELIEVED GOD and it was accounted unto him for righteousness
Yet many seem to try and omit the part of YE must BELIEVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
and more and more do not actually BELIEVE JESUS THE CHRIST .
But this did not do abraham . and this did not do the sheep of his pasture either .
 

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Oh I see....sorry for misunderstanding!
seems to me this higher walk some speak of is not at all a higher walk .
Many can appear enlightened , and yet we gots to ask ourselves
exactly what LIGHT has illuminated their eyes , heart and mind .
ANY walk that tries to omit the idea
that its not necessary to have believed ON JESUS the CHRIST
well lets just ITS NO WALK I WANT ANY PART OF
that walk dont lead to paradise and many are on that walk right now even as we speak .
Believing they hear , when in truth what they hear aint coming FROM THE ALLMIGHTY .
Seems to me many have become enamored with something . WITH THEY OWN SELF
own wisdom , own ability , and i gotta say , DUE TO THE FACT there is no man who is righteous
WELL , SELF CANNOT SAVE them .
And i know of only one who works through the flesh of men
through the carnal enlightement of men and wisdom of men .
In fact HE SITS SUPREME over it .
This is he in who inquity was first found . I SHALL BE AS
and now hollers not stop , IT matters not what ye believe , YE CAN BE AS TOO .
 

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Oh I see....sorry for misunderstanding!
Marvel not dear sister . if the light that be in one be darkness then how GREAT that darkness is .
many put light for darkness and darkness for light .
professing to know the LIGHT and yet DENYING THE VERY LIGHT OF GOD which is the lamb , the GLORY OF GOD .
What one believes and who one believes in , MATTERS .
the sheep hear one voice , all others will hear another .
JUST as i once did , i heard and followed another voice
but that voice , while it did speak truths , its truths were twisted to suit my own desires
and not the DESIRE OF GOD ALL MIGHTY .
The scary part was i could cliam to beleive IN JESUS The CHRIST
but boy i sure didnt seem to beleive the things HE said .
MANY now are as once was I . Lost and have no idea they are
and just as i , they too can do some good , feed some poor
speak some truths and yet KNOW NOT THE TRUTH .
 

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Marvel not dear sister . if the light that be in one be darkness then how GREAT that darkness is .
many put light for darkness and darkness for light .
professing to know the LIGHT and yet DENYING THE VERY LIGHT OF GOD which is the lamb , the GLORY OF GOD .
What one believes and who one believes in , MATTERS .
the sheep hear one voice , all others will hear another .
JUST as i once did , i heard and followed another voice
but that voice , while it did speak truths , its truths were twisted to suit my own desires
and not the DESIRE OF GOD ALL MIGHTY .
The scary part was i could cliam to beleive IN JESUS The CHRIST
but boy i sure didnt seem to beleive the things HE said .
MANY now are as once was I . Lost and have no idea they are
and just as i , they too can do some good , feed some poor
speak some truths and yet KNOW NOT THE TRUTH .
Amen. Jesus said HE is the Way and the Truth and the Life!
 
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Walk the talk and don't talk the walk.
Hi brother.
Who we hear matters .
what we hear matters .
And i sure didnt seem to see JESUS just walking around
and talking ONLY of doing good works and implying to all IT DIDNT MATTER if they believe in him or not .
THAT JESUS DONT EXIST johann .
Now lambs would love all THINGS HE SAID , as GOD has planted the love of the truth upon our hearts .
and believe you me , EVERY WORD of JESUS IS OF GOD . EVERY WORD . not just some , not just most
but ALL WORDS HE SPOKE .
INCLUDING THE DIRE NEED TO BELEIVE ON HIM .
what are the the commandments OF GOD , OF CHRIST .
lets allow JOHN who knew him to sum that one up .
TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST , aka that is to LOVE GOD with all thine heart
and to love your neighbor as yourself .
I sure also didnt seem to see paul , peter , james , john , jude , or any
walking around trying to FIND COMMON GROUND with all religoins
Rather they preached , and boy did they preach , THE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
heck they even did as JESUS said to do unto those who rejected CHRIST
shook the dust off their feet as a testimony agaisnt them .
SOMETHING AINT Right johann . THE DEVIL has come in and brought another version
of what HE CLAIMS is love , HE claims is of GOD .
BUt allow me some parting words .
WHAT DO CHARITY REJOICE IN . what does charity , aka LOVE , rejoice in
TRUTH pardener . and EVERY WORD OF JESUS , by golly I KNOW ITS TRUTH . and thus
NOT a word HE taught gonna get omitted and twisted on my watch . nor the teachings of the apostels
HECK even the old testament is GOOD for us to read and to know and to learn .
 
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Amen. Jesus said HE is the Way and the Truth and the Life!
but is it possible for satan and his minstirs to come along
and preach another jesus , another gospel .
IS it possible for a man to be lip only but not heart .
YOU better beleive it is . but the sheep sure as heck WONT be heeding
what cometh of their fingers in type or the lips of hype . THAT YA CAN BANK ON .
JESUS GOT THE SHEEP sister and HIS WORDS we gonna BELIEVE .
 
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Lost and have no idea they are
and just as i , they too can do some good , feed some poor
speak some truths and yet KNOW NOT THE TRUTH .
Don't agree here--

Faith Without Works is Dead
The primary scripture that addresses the concept of faith without works being dead is found in the Book of James:

James 2:14-26 (KJV):

14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Greek Words:

Faith (πίστις, pistis): Refers to trust or belief, often in the context of trust in God.
Works (ἔργα, erga): Refers to deeds or actions, especially those that demonstrate one's faith.
Dead (νεκρός, nekros): Meaning lifeless, without vitality, used metaphorically to describe faith that does not result in actions.
Matthew 25:31-46 (KJV)
This passage is the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats, which illustrates the final judgment and emphasizes the importance of actions in the life of faith.

Matthew 25:31-46 (KJV):

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Greek Words:

Sheep (πρόβατα, probata): Symbolically representing the righteous or those who follow Christ.
Goats (ἐρίφια, eriphia): Symbolically representing those who do not follow Christ.
Righteous (δίκαιοι, dikaioi): Those who are just or right, especially in a moral sense.
Eternal (αἰώνιος, aionios): Referring to something everlasting or without end.
Punishment (κόλασις, kolasis): Refers to correction or penalty.
Kingdom (βασιλεία, basileia): Refers to the realm or dominion of a king, in this context, the Kingdom of God.

These passages and Greek terms shows the importance of living out one's faith through actions, illustrating that true faith is manifested in deeds of love and compassion towards others.

Hence my words--walk the talk not talk the walk and these are Scripture references avoided by most-right @amigo de christo.

Sitting in comfort in our homes, not being persecuted for our faith but we want to expose others when WE ourselves must work out OUR salvation with fear and trembling.

J.
 
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