Spiritual Warfare

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like others here who also hate God's mercy and the truth.

Who is that? Just another rock to throw. Try to see this! This is what is disengenuous.

Much love!

 

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Are you ready to be honest and desist from your vain religiosity? I know that you won't.

More rocks. More childishness.

Much love!

 

[Episkopos]

Who is that? Just another rock to throw. Try to see this! This is what is disengenuous.

Much love!

It would be if I wasn't telling the truth. You can avoid truth for a lifetime...but then you will have to face it. Why not be exposed now while there is still time to do something about it?

Some here like using religious language to puff up their ideas. But I'm speaking straight.

 

[Behold]

You have to read the bible. Jesus does not engage people personally at the Great White throne judgment.

Jesus does not "engage people" at all at Rev 20:11, as that Grt White Throne Judgement is for these, alone.

John 3:36.

If you own a bible, read that verse.

These are judged out of a book, whether their name is written in it or not.

The "Lamb's book of life", .....reveals who is not in it.
If you are not in it, then you are not born again, when you died., and that's why you're not in it.

Therefore when Jesus says to many who say, Lord Lord...we did this and that in You Name...only to be rejected by Him..

Noone is rejected at the Bema Seat., as only the born again are at the Bema Seat., and God has already redeemed them by the Blood of the Lamb..
The GWTJudgement, that you are confusing with the Judgement seat of Christ, is where they "depart".

.that is at the Bema seat judgment for God's people.

It is indeed for God's people, = only the Born again.
These are currently, "seated in heavenly places", and wont be going anywhere., as that is why they are there already.
See, all the born again, are born again as "one with God", and that will last for as long as God lives.

So, Only the John 3:36 Christ Rejectors, will find the GWTHrone-Judgement... because they were never the Born again.

See, all the born again have "passed from DEATH to LIFE".. .already, having received the '"Gift of Eternal Life", and that is why all the born again are become "The Temple of the Holy Spirit".

Hell" is the beginning of the 2nd Death, so, noone with God's "Gift of Eternal Life", will be found in Hell, and noone without God's eternal life, will remain in Heaven, as they will be Judged for one sin only.....

See, a lot of Heretics believe that "if i do enough good, then God will keep me".... etc etc..

When in Fact, there was only ONE Who Was Perfect, and the born again are "in Christ"..... (Him).

So, the reason that someone meets God as Eternal Judge, instead of as "Heavenly Father", is because they died as a Christ Rejector, never born again.

These... = John 3:36

 

[Behold]

You can avoid truth for a lifetime..

You're the man, himself.

 

[Episkopos]

You're the man, himself.

...who is able to help people out of their delusions. :) Together we just presented some truth here..

 

[Hepzibah]

False again. Your pride is far too great to learn anything.

All I said was that even Billy Graham came to understand God's mercy after MANY years in His service. I have seen religious ideologues condemn him as being reprobate because of that. Much like my own treatment by the religious ideologues here.

It just takes one ounce of honesty to realize that the false hubris displayed here falls like a house of cards if one allows love and mercy for others in. So judge away! :)

Billy Graham, if he were alive today would stand in front of you and deny what you are saying about the higher walk. You however, are insulting those who are in agreement with him, whilst supporting him. Logical?

Yet I support the doctrine you espouse and you put me down too, just because I call you out on your disgraceful behaviour that discredits any genuine holy man.

 

[Behold]

Much like my own treatment by the religious ideologues here.

Martyr Complex , is that you calling again?

Your the very one who stated that "The Cross is not about Forgiveness" and that "God does not give His righteousness to anyone".

Did you want to try to sell those lies again, @Episkopos ?

 

[Behold]

...who is able to help people out of their delusions.

Not so far.

You dont even know the difference between the Judgement seat of Christ and the Great White Throne Judgement.
You will literally have to "Google that" or "wiki it", or you'll have some pre-fab'd cut and paste ready, and it'll be wrong also.
(Take your pick).

You have no idea why 2 Corinthians 5:19, and John 3:17, and Romans 4:8, are in the NT.

"clueless".

So, How is your Zionic OuterManhood doing today?

Dont worry, im sure your still working on it @Episkopos

 

[Episkopos]

Billy Graham, if he were alive today would stand in front of you and deny what you are saying about the higher walk.

Show me the video...

You however, are insulting those who are in agreement with him, whilst supporting him. Logical?

You insulted me. I think you have the finger pointing the wrong way. You jumped on me to score points with others here...not realizing you are out in your own religious field trying to pull out the wheat to preserve the weeds.

Yet I support the doctrine you espouse and you put me down too,

The opposite is true. You have turned on me personally for whatever reason... because I don't justify you for having taken a further step than some others here???

just because I call you out on your disgraceful behaviour that discredits any genuine holy man.

Look at your dishonesty here. I ask all to witness how you have become part of the mob...why? Are you not getting enough satisfaction, recognition?

I think I know why.

It's because you are just as religious as those who oppose my simple words of truth...but you place yourself above them because of some spiritual experience or other. You want an elitist position? I don't recognize anything but Christ.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I think you misunderstood the difference between times in the heavenly walk (2) and levels of heaven. No harm no foul.

Actually I think you misunderstand justification. And make this so called heavely walk somethign that is not

Your trying to justify yourself. then claim God justified you. When in fact. He only deems you justified in how you walk is what you are saying

see how you twist things. make them sound good. and then act as if it is from God?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Because the ruler of this world is the devil and he preys on the truth and any who would turn to it. He invented the modern gospel to turn aside ALL who do not love the truth..but have pleasure in unrighteousness. A brilliant plan.

And you walk right into his hands. And he uses you to keep people from the truth. with your self righteous gospel of works.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[Episkopos]

Not so far.

Well, you have to give me more time. Rome wasn't demolished in a day. ;)

You dont even know the difference between the Judgement seat of Christ and the Great White Throne Judgement.

Are you reading these terms for the first time today?

You will literally have to "Google that" or "wiki it", or you'll have some pre-fab'd cut and paste ready, and it'll be wrong also.
(Take your pick).

You have no idea why 2 Corinthians 5:19, and John 3:17, and Romans 4:8, are in the NT.

"clueless".

So, How is your Zionic OuterManhood doing today?

Dont worry, im sure your still working on it @Episkopos

I don't think your googling these things is going to help you..as you say. The truth is deeper than google. So you have no real chance to understand what I'm saying UNLESS you go before God. You can thank me later if you like. But I will just point to Christ.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Well, you have to give me more time. Rome wasn't demolished in a day. ;)


Are you reading these terms for the first time today?

I don't think your googling these things is going to help you..as you say. The truth is deeper than google. So you have no real chance to understand what I'm saying UNLESS you go before God. You can thank me later if you like. But I will just point to Christ.

SO what is the difference between the great white throne judgment (sarx) and the judgment seat of Christ (bema)

since two totally different words are used for these words.. what is the difference?

Can you answer? or will you continue to deflect?

 

[Episkopos]

And you walk right into his hands. And he uses you to keep people from the truth. with your self righteous gospel of works.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

LOL I'm reminded of a scene in Lord of the Rings where the man playing Wormtongue insults the prince of Rohan calling him the "warmonger".

Keep playing your role. It's amusing.

 

[Episkopos]

Thanks to all for playing a very life-like role in displaying what spiritual warfare might look like. Special notice goes to those playing the part of the Pharisees. :)

 

[Lizbeth]

I hope those who 'like' John/epi took note of this between us:

John: Even Billy Graham taught that. (ref to the unsaved being accepted by God)

Me: "An unsaved sinner’s destiny is separation from God, a place that Jesus has called hell." Billy Graham. Billy Graham: The Hope of Eternal Life - The Billy Graham Evangelistic Association of Canada

John: Maybe you are looking for men to follow. I follow Christ.

I hope you have not missed this. I proved him wrong and see his response.

I would like to agree with those who are thinking that there must be something wrong with John and pray for him. I no longer think that way and feel that he has an agenda here. He is certainly causing confusion.

Exactly, yes, many of us here have been seeing that this is how Epi operates all the time. To the point where I have literally wondered if he has had formal training in it.......gas-lighting, twisting one's words back against them, deflecting, distracting, accusing, evading, faking, ducking and dodging, and throwing punches - real fancy footwork you could say, lol. Times when I've questioned his sincerity too, other times I give him the benefit of the doubt. Well - God knows.

The bible says "let the lame be healed, LEST THEY BE TURNED OUT OF THE WAY." Whatever area(s) of the heart that has been wounded and lamed and needs healing. God is certainly able, not by might, not by power but by His Spirit - but it takes willingness on part of the recipient.....and usually at least some general awareness of the need or lack must be gained in order to begin seeking the Lord for what one has need of.

 

[Hepzibah]

Show me the video...


You insulted me. I think you have the finger pointing the wrong way. You jumped on me to score points with others here...not realizing you are out in your own religious field trying to pull out the wheat to preserve the weeds.


The opposite is true. You have turned on me personally for whatever reason... because I don't justify you for having taken a further step than some others here???

Look at your dishonesty here. I ask all to witness how you have become part of the mob...why? Are you not getting enough satisfaction, recognition?

I think I know why.

It's because you are just as religious as those who oppose my simple words of truth...but you place yourself above them because of some spiritual experience or other. You want an elitist position? I don't recognize anything but Christ.

I do not need to find a video of Billy Graham saying he denounced the doctrine of entire sanctification. If he had been a holiness teacher, which he was not, he would have produced endless books and sermons about it. That's what holiness teachers do. They certainly do not go on and on about something that most evangelicals agree on, that the unsaved go to hell.

You try to use him to back you up but he doesn't so you try to discredit me further.

But I am not playing your little predetermined game on here. Man, have you no fear of God in you?

 

[Episkopos]

I do not need to find a video of Billy Graham saying he denounced the doctrine of entire sanctification.

Actually you do have to. Your judgment is very off..as you have been shown. ALL people who know the Lord will agree with me. Bar none. If not, then, as Paul says, God will show you even this....as He has shown me.

If he had been a holiness teacher, which he was not, he would have produced endless books and sermons about it.

True. Mr. Graham was a simple man...but a godly man. His service to God was to spread the gospel WIDE....not necessarily deep. The devil is ONLY against the depth of the truth. He knows how to manipulate the truth to make it come out saying the very opposite.

That's what holiness teachers do. They certainly do not go on and on about something that most evangelicals agree on, that the unsaved go to hell.

You try to use him to back you up but he doesn't so you try to discredit me further.

This isn't personal. You are making it so. I discuss ideas...but you make it about people. Mr. Graham would not insult me or attack me because he was a godly man. :) I don't think he would take holiness doctrine as a personal attack against himself. Unlike some characters here.

But I am not playing your little predetermined game on here. Man, have you no fear of God in you?

I fear God but not men. I think you have your wires crossed. People here have little to no fear of God at all. They attack his servants...as if that was something good. Just because it's not part of the indoctrination...doesn't mean it's not true.

Seek the Lord and live.

 

[Behold]

Well, you have to give me more time. Rome wasn't demolished in a day. ;)

Ive watched you wallow in your ultra self righteous Theology, for about 4 yrs.
Ive watched you try to sell it, for the same amount of time.
I dont predict any change is coming your way, regarding those two facts.

Are you reading these terms for the first time today?

Its interesting to note that what i teach, comes from Paul, and what i write, is written just before you read it.

The truth is deeper than google.

Listening to you teach.. whatever it is that you blow out...... as its not related to Paul's Theology, even if you use the name "Paul", 20 x, in a Post.
And when i hear it.... when i hear your hyper-religious self centered vain jangling... its like..... when a Plane has its landing gear down, and it keep flying around and around the Airport air space... and yet, can't ever land.

Your theology, is very much like hot air.. its up there, and yet, it's nowhere.

You know, sometimes i deal with 3 Hyper Calvinists on this Forum, and they get angry, and they then become more Calvinistic, more insulting.. .however, all 3 of them, understand "The Gift of Salvation" as "The Cross of Christ".
They know what that is...
They all understand that "God Righteousness" as the Imputed righteousness of Christ, is what is made available by "The Gift of Righteousness".. that God freely gives to anyone who gives God their Faith in Christ.
See, Jesus died for the sinner, so that their sin, now resolved, now forgiven... allows God to impart unto them His Righteousness.
As you can't be "righteous", as a sinner, unless your sin is resolved, and then Righteousness is given to you, as "the Gift of Righteousness".
So, at least these 3 Hyper Calvinists... were originally correct regarding understanding why God will give the New Birth... and then Calvin deceived them , all 3, into a misunderstanding, regarding what they originally understood.
But they were there first., before they were twisted into John Calvinism.

You on the other hand, according to your posts and Threads, have not arrived to that place of understanding.

This is why you are all about "self justifying" and "the person's righteousness", vs, God's Righteousness that is Christ on the Cross, who a True Believer receives as their Savior, which is to receive the "Gift of Salvation" that is to become this..

A.) "THE Righteousness of GOD.. .In Christ".