Spiritual Warfare

[Episkopos]

The man beleives in this inclusive social gospel stuff .
He sees the true gospel AS THE SOCIAL gospel and not the GOSPEL IN THE ACTUAL bible .
Its why he beleives as he do .

Since you don't seem to want to go away, I will TRY to address your concerns as real or imagined as they may be. ;)

OK...an inclusive social gospel??? Where do you get that?

The bible testifies that Jesus died for the sins of the WHOLE world. That's not me saying that...you have an issue with the bible and the truth...not ol' epi.

But since you maybe haven't read the bible through quite yet...I will post what you may call "inclusivism" (your term) from the bible.

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:2

I made some of the words bigger in case you might not notice them. :)

For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. 1 Tim. 4:10

I don't know if you can read what I posted. If you see some green...then you can read it.

He beleives in a self attainted gospel . a means by which man can attain and save himself , WITHOUT BELIEF ON JESUS THE CHRIST .

What planet do you live on? So maybe you don't understand spiritual things...but I am attacked so often because I believe in a higher walk in the Spirit....by translation into the kingdom walk IN Christ. maybe you missed my thousands of posts on the subject. maybe your reading comprehension isn't up to the task???? I don't know. All I know is that you don't seem to be able to understand anything beyond..."believe in Jesus". That's as far as you go. (I know that for you that's a compliment)

You would be amazed at what i learned in the libary about that incluisive stuff .
ITS A HEAVY DELUSOIN SISTER . i never seen one like it and it WILL MERGE ALL religoins and all denominations
as one under a lie sister and by means of a lie that it calls love .
But the truth is the church is in dire trouble .
You see when men like me try and even warn about the dangers of other faiths
we get shut down as though we are judging and non loving .
The church brought this on itself sister . Today the motto is JUST LIVE and GET ALONG and let live
and doctrine dont really matter just love . only ITS LOVE DENIES JESUS IS THE CHRIST , the DIRE NEED
to BELEIVE ON HIM and its love HONORS certain sins too and others false beleifs , others gods .
Most folks already agree with epi , THEY JUST DONT RELIAZE IT .
now when i say agree with epi , I DONT MEAN his every word and doctrine .
I MEAN the idea its not necessary TO BELEIVE on JESUS the CHRIST .
and if we take notice under the banner DOCTRINE DONT MATTER
they will all merge in time . as many already have in other places .
I cant stop it sister . but i can expose it .

All you are doing is exposing yourself. And I commend you for going to a library. It seemed that you were against any knowledge. But I think you need to read the bible now...and pray to God for understanding. Wherever you are at present...whether at home, in re-hab, in jail, in a group home...God can meet with you WHERE you are to bring you to WHERE HE is. Trust in the Lord.

 

[amigo de christo]

Hmmm, it's funny how you always need to be brought back to the point of the post, Epi. Ironically and unfortunately you don't seem to think much of the GOSPEL, or of FAITH, or of RIGHTEOUSNESS or of THE WORD OF GOD (except for some cherry picking). Don't know what your spiritual warfare is based on then.

that was a real good question and reminder dear sister .
Like many who preach a pick up your own cross no need to beleieve gospel
many preach about spiritual warfare , only i guess they dont need to BELEIVE ON HIM EITHER .
JESUS THE CHRIST is getting removed sister . the DIRE need to BELEIVE ON HIM is being removed
ALL OVER christendom .
i notice you said GOSPEL , FAITH , RIGHTEOUSNESS , Or the WORD of GOD .
so allow me some parting words that might help explain something .
GOSPEL gospel
FAITH faith
RIGHTEOUSNESS righteousness
WHY is one side captilized and the other not .
Cause ONE IS GODS WAY and the other is mans .
The devil can use any word , can even say GOD is love
but his version of GOD IS LOVE , is really god is love .
In other words there really is a way that seems right to man , only the end will be death .
Satan knows how to decieve the church as well as anyone .
ANY gospel that removes the DIRE NECESSITY of BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST , well you can bet your bottom dollar
IT AINT NO GOSPEL at all .
i expose false gospels and point only to the TRUE GOSPEL . JESUS CHRIST , HIS EVERY LOVELY WORD .
I suggest any and everyone who cliams the name of CHRIST do the same thing .
cause another jesus , another god , another gospel , WELL it wont be saving anyone .
BIBLE TIME SISTER . let all priase the glorious LORD .

 

[Behold]

I am attacked so often because I believe in a higher walk in the Spirit....by translation into the kingdom walk IN Christ.

Every born again believer has been "translated from darkness, to LIGHT">.

So, every born again believer is a SPIRITUAL Son-Daughter of God, born again, into the Kingdom of God.

There is no "walking" to get there.... no ladder to climb......there is only to exist there eternally, by being Born again, into the "Kingdom of God"".

And who was born again INTO, God Himself, as "IN CHRIST... "One with God". ???? = : A SINNER, who was SAVED, instantly., (born again)... so they INSTANTLY went from the power of Darkness, (unbelief) INTO, The Light of Salvation and eternal life, who is CHRIST Himself.

So, now BEING THERE< on DAY ONE, of "born again", "made free from sin"....the born again believer is to learn how to exist as a "new Creation In Christ.""

They've already become a """new creation in Christ", and now they are to "work out your salvation" that you HAVE BEEN GIVEN... as its "the GIFT of Salvation", and "THE Gift of Righteousness", and "the GIFT OF Eternal life".

Discipleship, which is not Salvation...........its the pursuit of the knowledge of God..and as the BELIEVER acquires more revelation regarding being "Made Righteous", as a "new Creation in Christ'", then this Revelation empowers them more and more, as the Grace of God., as "revelation knowledge".

 

[Lizbeth]

Since you don't seem to want to go away, I will TRY to address your concerns as real or imagined as they may be. ;)

OK...an inclusive social gospel??? Where do you get that?

The bible testifies that Jesus died for the sins of the WHOLE world. That's not me saying that...you have an issue with the bible and the truth...not ol' epi.

But since you maybe haven't read the bible through quite yet...I will post what you may call "inclusivism" (your term) from the bible.

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:2

I made some of the words bigger in case you might not notice them. :)

For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. 1 Tim. 4:10

I don't know if you can read what I posted. If you see some green...then you can read it.

I can read it. And I can see that you are not rightly dividing it too. You are the one who needs to pray for understanding, clearly......from wherever you are.

 

[amadeus]

I don't think you are qualified to discern true doctrine. If you can read my posts and understand them...then you are reading sound doctrine. And because it is sound it might be too deep for spiritual novices. The proof is to seek God about it. I've had people who disagreed with me then prayed...in honesty, and God showed them that what I was saying is true. But any old casual surmising using a human understanding isn't going to get you there.

You say that, and another says I'm elitist and exclusionary, and another says I compartmentalize. But nobody understands what I'm referring to. The truth will remain beyond your grasp as long as you retain a smug religious certainty.



Jesus said that we are to bear our own cross. I follow Christ. What is it that you follow?

I leave you to your simplistic notions. But the gospel goes far deeper than you can imagine even as you use your imagination to put you in a place where you think you can teach others. You are obviously a novice. Go to the unsaved and preach the very first baby steps to them. You may even do some good!

Let us open our minds and hearts to God. Let us ask God to help us to do so. This is at the beginning of our walk and also as we continue to walk with and toward Him. How else is anyone able to grow? Why should we stop growing closer to God?

Alone we can do nothing, but if we do not surrender to God what is He able to do with us? Who surrendered his all to God at his first repentance? What did Paul mean by these words?

1co 15:30	And why stand we in jeopardy every hour?
1co 15:31	I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.

 

[Episkopos]

Every born again believer has been "translated from darkness, to LIGHT">.

So, every born again believer is a SPIRITUAL Son-Daughter of God, born again, into the Kingdom of God.

There is no "walking" to get there.... no ladder to climb......there is only to exist there eternally, by being Born again, into the "Kingdom of God"".

And who was born again INTO, God Himself, as "IN CHRIST... "One with God". ???? = : A SINNER, who was SAVED, instantly., (born again)... so they INSTANTLY went from the power of Darkness, (unbelief) INTO, The Light of Salvation and eternal life, who is CHRIST Himself.

So, now BEING THERE< on DAY ONE, of "born again", "made free from sin"....the born again believer is to learn how to exist as a "new Creation In Christ.""

They've already become a """new creation in Christ", and now they are to "work out your salvation" that you HAVE BEEN GIVEN... as its "the GIFT of Salvation", and "THE Gift of Righteousness", and "the GIFT OF Eternal life".

Discipleship, which is not Salvation...........its the pursuit of the knowledge of God..and as the BELIEVER acquires more revelation regarding being "Made Righteous", as a "new Creation in Christ'", then this Revelation empowers them more and more, as the Grace of God., as "revelation knowledge".

The liberal gospel says "you don't need to seek, ask and knock...He is already in you, all you need to do is discover what's already inside you"..

This kind of thinking comes from Buddhism. It tells a person that they are already complete...no need to seek outside themselves. And this is a very popular mindset at present. Some will adorn that kind of idea with the idea that Jesus is within them and therefore there is no need to seek first the kingdom and His righteousness...no, they already have it.

This thread is about casting down imaginations. We can be persuaded by an ideological theory that negates the need to seek God's face. But we can also realize that the truth is not in us until we go to where the truth is found. It is found in a Person. It is only found in Christ. He is the way, the truth and the life. We need to be where He is...in the place prepared in advance for those whom He receives, and knows. To be known of Him. To enter INTO Him so that we are filled with His presence. When we are filled with His Spirit to overflowing, then we can have hope of an eternal glory...that is Christ in us.

Jesus has prepared a place for us who seek after Him, so that where He is we might be also.

Some of the disciples when they first met Jesus asked Him....Master where do you live? He replied...come and see! :)

 

[amigo de christo]

just as i thought . the liberal gospel IS NEW AGE .
that the christ etc is inside us all . ITS new age pardner .
The social all inclusive gospel is new age .
EPI said it himself . look at his first sentence to behold .
the liberal gospel says that ...........................
its NEW AGE epi . and its all over the inclusive realm only ya cant seem to see it is .
Folks ate from the wrong tree and became enlightened through carnal wisdom they beleive opened their eyes .
NEW age is bad news epi . just wanted to let you know that .
But this does prove exactly what i been saying all along
about the one world lovey do inclusive divesery poo religoin . ITS NEW AGE
its INCLUSIVITY stuff . it DENIES the One true gospel .
But its all over christendom in slightly different forms of course but its unitingthem all now .

 

[amigo de christo]

I can read it. And I can see that you are not rightly dividing it too. You are the one who needs to pray for understanding, clearly......from wherever you are.

just wait till you read his latest response to behold .
and yet the very social inclusive gospel itself IS NEW AGE .
remember their goal sister , these elites
they dont care much about doctrine ,
they care only that folks come to the idea that one does not have to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
they all HAVE that IN COMMON sister .
the doctrine is different , not identical
but even the very liberal gospel that epi himself identified
He cannot see it is all over the inclusive realm itself . THEY are gonna all unite as one .
Inclusivism says the same thing concering Christ and the SPIRIT that epi just
identified in the liberal gospel . HECK its all the same mantra sister
i tried to tell us , they wont have identical doctrine
but what will be identical is THEY WONT BELIEVE WE NEED TO BELEIVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
and tis taking hearts capitve big time in every realm of christendom . its getting worse all the time sister .
But as for us , WE WONT be heeding that mess . we is sticking to the true LIFE SAVING LIFE CHANGING GOSPEL
and pointing to the REAL JESUS THE CHRIST in that bible and not the one invented of men .

 

[amigo de christo]

The liberal gospel says "you don't need to seek, ask and knock...He is already in you, all you need to do is discover what's already inside you"..

This kind of thinking comes from Buddhism. It tells a person that they are already complete...no need to seek outside themselves. And this is a very popular mindset at present. Some will adorn that kind of idea with the idea that Jesus is within them and therefore there is no need to seek first the kingdom and His righteousness...no, they already have it.

This thread is about casting down imaginations. We can be persuaded by an ideological theory that negates the need to seek God's face. But we can also realize that the truth is not in us until we go to where the truth is found. It is found in a Person. It is only found in Christ. He is the way, the truth and the life. We need to be where He is...in the place prepared in advance for those whom He receives, and knows. To be known of Him. To enter INTO Him so that we are filled with His presence. When we are filled with His Spirit to overflowing, then we can have hope of an eternal glory...that is Christ in us.

Jesus has prepared a place for us who seek after Him, so that where He is we might be also.

Some of the disciples when they first met Jesus asked Him....Master where do you live? He replied...come and see! :)

epi that is what the social gospel in part implies .
Inclusivity IS New age epi .
and eastern religoin mindset is all over it .
And yet ya cant see it , that its all over the inclusive belief mindset .
Pope francis was quoated saying this very concept .
We beleieve the SPIRIT is within all religoins , even if they DONT beleive IN JESUS the CHRIST
that still he , his spirit is at work in them etc .
Man new age has grown massive and it has infiltrated christendom .
fact is it infiltrated christendom quite some time back and it just keeps getting worse all the time .
NEW AGE , most folks already follow it , IN PART
its all over the social justice inclusive gospel which AINT NO GOSPEL at all .

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

What modern churchianity has done is refused the higher walk in holiness and rather has pushed the righteous off their righteousness to claim that level for themselves. A great evil in God's sight. As it is written...

Because with lies you have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return (repent) from his wicked way, by promising him life: Ez. 13:22

A Religious that is truly only truly carnal. Lacking in the Lord's Salvation ! Lord = Christ and Salvation = Jesus. that's what he is !
Christ Jesus is our Lord and Saviour period !

Churchianity does not truly totaly respect Salvation of the Lord comes from him directly regardless and this is the key point of everything one must abide in, if you are truly his people. As he knows you and you him.

That's why i am not on the same page as Churchianity, because they are a pain ! for they are only truly Carnal Religious = of this world ! For they are not of the Kingdom of God in fact.

When i see a Cross, what does such mean ? Nothing ? but if it has Jesus on the Cross, then i see the real deal is Jesus, it remindes me of what we are as Carnal beings truly are, for they will do such ! for that is their bag in fact, like a Mob !

The Mob can turn like a wild beast, so if you cast Pearls before such, do not be suprised !
But if one truly understands how Jesus was hung on the Cross, then you will know and understand why, not to be one with the Mob.

Not that one with a Cross or the symbol it's self means anything, but key understanding is the message convayed is the real deal, other than that it's just a trinket. a Trinket of deciet ? for a even a Vampire could hold such on his person for all to see, but not as in regards to the real meassage that is truly convayed.

The Vampire here is one who abides in the darkness but such a one can not be exposed to the Light, for he would be exposed, for such would never repent ? for he has to much too gain in regards this world !

When the Wolves howl ? he sees such as Children of the Night ! and says, what music they make, Hahaaar.

The Wolf that is in charge of the Hen house. that's Churchianity.

Look at Pope Francise he is a Vampire. does he mention Jesus Christ ! Not if he can get aways with it ! why not ! well he does not want to offend this world in fact. He is talking about this world Religion.
Why would anyone who is truly worthy of Christ Jesus not mention the Name from the roof tops openly with pride and everywhere you go regardless ! for he abides in you 24/7 so that you will talk about the Lord Jesus, never asking for reward, for he is your greatest reward that you ever recived, so why not speek openly about the Gift that has become you, for you want that Gift for others as well. because it's truly totaly fantastic !
For you have been raptured up to meet the Lord Jesus in the Holy Spirit ! Bingo that's where it's all at ! you have became the real you !

Saved from this world that is full of deceptions and delusions.
I know who they are, for i know their workings. i know what makes them tick. for they are poor fools and idiots ! period ! for there is a great gulf between us. and most walk the long way around to get their but you can be tranformed in an instant and you are their ! The Power of the Holy Spirit does that.

 

[Episkopos]

A Religious that is truly only truly carnal. Lacking in the Lord's Salvation ! Lord = Christ and Salvation = Jesus. that's what he is !
Christ Jesus is our Lord and Saviour period !

Churchianity does not truly totaly respect Salvation of the Lord comes from him directly regardless and this is the key point of everything one must abide in, if you are truly his people. As he knows you and you him.

Amen. You know we are on the same page. Religious people compare themselves with those who are OUTSIDE the church...condemning them of course, but never considering why Jesus is condemning the Laodiceans for thinking they are something they are not. Sure, in their own eyes they are rich and in need of nothing. But they have fully missed the will of God and gone off on a self-justifying tangent. Will they repent? No. They are living by heir own rules and are going against everything that God stands for....and they don't care to submit their ways to God.

That's why i am not on the same page as Churchianity, because they are a pain ! for they are only truly Carnal Religious = of this world ! For they are not of the Kingdom of God in fact.

They claim they are in the Kingdom as a free gift...a package deal that comes with claiming Jesus for themselves. They see it more like a legal thing....relying on their own set of laws and calling that grace. And they will condemn anyone who doesn't follow their version of the law (a religious version that churchianity is based on) and the decoy gospel.

When i see a Cross, what does such mean ? Nothing ? but if it has Jesus on the Cross, then i see the real deal is Jesus, it remindes me of what we are as Carnal beings truly are, for they will do such ! for that is their bag in fact, like a Mob !

The Mob can turn like a wild beast, so if you cast Pearls before such, do not be suprised !
But if one truly understands how Jesus was hung on the Cross, then you will know and understand why, not to be one with the Mob.

People will resist the truth in order to associate themselves with the mob, thinking that there's safety in numbers.

Not that one with a Cross or the symbol it's self means anything, but key understanding is the message convayed is the real deal, other than that it's just a trinket. a Trinket of deciet ? for a even a Vampire could hold such on his person for all to see, but not as in regards to the real meassage that is truly convayed.

The Vampire here is one who abides in the darkness but such a one can not be exposed to the Light, for he would be exposed, for such would never repent ? for he has to much too gain in regards this world !

When the Wolves howl ? he sees such as Children of the Night ! and says, what music they make, Hahaaar.

The Wolf that is in charge of the Hen house. that's Churchianity.

Look at Pope Francise he is a Vampire. does he mention Jesus Christ ! Not if he can get aways with it ! why not ! well he does not want to offend this world in fact. He is talking about this world Religion.
Why would anyone who is truly worthy of Christ Jesus not mention the Name from the roof tops openly with pride and everywhere you go regardless ! for he abides in you 24/7 so that you will talk about the Lord Jesus, never asking for reward, for he is your greatest reward that you ever recived, so why not speek openly about the Gift that has become you, for you want that Gift for others as well. because it's truly totaly fantastic !
For you have been raptured up to meet the Lord Jesus in the Holy Spirit ! Bingo that's where it's all at ! you have became the real you !

Amen. A real testimony.

Saved from this world that is full of deceptions and delusions.
I know who they are, for i know their workings. i know what makes them tick. for they are poor fools and idiots ! period ! for there is a great gulf between us. and most walk the long way around to get their but you can be tranformed in an instant and you are their ! The Power of the Holy Spirit does that.

Always learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth...of such turn away.

God has sent strong delusion that many should believe a lie. A general amnesty for sin? The cross about forgiveness? God imputing His own righteousness to us? The devil mocks God and is pleased at how gullible people are in a bid for self-preservation. Trying to save themselves. And these rail against holiness...the very thing that the devil rebelled against God about.

But there is a real salvation...and God filters out, through the genius of His word, those whose characters are at odds with the selfless nature of God. We can only come to God, in a meek, and broken manner. I'm amazed how people miss the truth...to claim a parallel religion that deviates into going the other way...and so many are not wise to it.

The Lord is to be praised and FEARED.

Peace of Christ <><

 

[Episkopos]

epi that is what the social gospel in part implies .
Inclusivity IS New age epi .
and eastern religoin mindset is all over it .
And yet ya cant see it , that its all over the inclusive belief mindset .

You want to destroy righteousness, God's mercy, and holiness. All these you rail against in your bid to justify yourself for a belief theory.

Pope francis was quoated saying this very concept .
We beleieve the SPIRIT is within all religoins , even if they DONT beleive IN JESUS the CHRIST
that still he , his spirit is at work in them etc .
Man new age has grown massive and it has infiltrated christendom .
fact is it infiltrated christendom quite some time back and it just keeps getting worse all the time .
NEW AGE , most folks already follow it , IN PART
its all over the social justice inclusive gospel which AINT NO GOSPEL at all .

You have rejected the true gospel and you mischaracterize the truth as something that not just includes others apart from you..it also excludes you.

Rather than grandstanding and pontificating to virtue signal based on errors...why not engage in the threads you visit, but don't engage in with honesty. Explain your position..and back it up from the bible. If you can. If all you can do is attack people...and rail against the truth by mischaracterization...then don't participate.

 

[Episkopos]

Why seek to obliterate righteousness? Why seek to deny God's mercy for others? Why rail against holiness? These attacks are on the front line of the spiritual battle that is claiming the souls of many who have been promised life. People will do horrible things in the name of self-preservation. But God's people are not to love their own lives unto death.

Christians were once admired for their selfless attitude and acts. No longer. The gospel has been perverted to the point where a selfish interest has become the defining value. But judgment is coming. However, there is still time to repent. Seek the Lord while He may be found. Seek the Lord and live.

 

[Lizbeth]

The bible testifies that Jesus died for the sins of the WHOLE world. That's not me saying that...you have an issue with the bible and the truth...not ol' epi.

But since you maybe haven't read the bible through quite yet...I will post what you may call "inclusivism" (your term) from the bible.

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:2

I made some of the words bigger in case you might not notice them. :)

For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. 1 Tim. 4:10

I don't know if you can read what I posted. If you see some green...then you can read it.

Tried to point this out to Epi before, but here goes again:

“Not for ours only but for the sins of the whole world”…..is John saying not for the Jews only but also for the nations……it is talking about the gospel being not for Israel alone but also for the Gentiles. “The Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe” is on this wise…..that He is the Saviour of all men (Jew and Gentile), offered and available to be Saviour for all men if they would believe, and especially Saviour of those who already believe of course.

So how do we know which is the right understanding here……well, looking at the whole counsel of God it shouldn’t be too hard to see which one doesn’t contradict but agrees with other scriptures.

If one insists on taking "the whole world" and "all men" as meaning in a strict literal sense, then one would have to include the heinously wicked, that they too are saved apart from faith in Christ and not just unbelieving humble "average" folks who do good to their neighbour (who Epi calls righteous and believes they will be saved apart from faith based on their own righteousness).

 

[Lizbeth]

The liberal gospel says "you don't need to seek, ask and knock...He is already in you, all you need to do is discover what's already inside you"..

This kind of thinking comes from Buddhism. It tells a person that they are already complete...no need to seek outside themselves. And this is a very popular mindset at present. Some will adorn that kind of idea with the idea that Jesus is within them and therefore there is no need to seek first the kingdom and His righteousness...no, they already have it.

This thread is about casting down imaginations. We can be persuaded by an ideological theory that negates the need to seek God's face. But we can also realize that the truth is not in us until we go to where the truth is found. It is found in a Person. It is only found in Christ. He is the way, the truth and the life. We need to be where He is...in the place prepared in advance for those whom He receives, and knows. To be known of Him. To enter INTO Him so that we are filled with His presence. When we are filled with His Spirit to overflowing, then we can have hope of an eternal glory...that is Christ in us.

Jesus has prepared a place for us who seek after Him, so that where He is we might be also.

Some of the disciples when they first met Jesus asked Him....Master where do you live? He replied...come and see! :)

Hope nobody is denying either! (As long as we aren't mistaking "where He is" to be a physical location.) Christ in us IS the hope of glory, and Christ above ever lives to make intercession for us. He is the "bridge" to the Father above, standing in the gap between us and the Father. He said that "no man can come to the Father but by me".

It is deep (Christ in us) calling unto deep (God/Christ above):

Psa 42:7
Deep calleth unto deep at the noise of thy waterspouts: all thy waves and thy billows are gone over me.

The fountains of the deep springing up at the same time as the windows of heaven open and pour down:

Gen 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Psa 85:9-12
Surely his salvation is nigh them that fear him; that glory may dwell in our land.
Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.
Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven.
Yea, the LORD shall give that which is good; and our land shall yield her increase.

(We will see some similarities in false religions of the world with Christian truths, but as we know the devil counterfeits things of God by perverting the truth. And often the difference between flesh and spirit is just a thin fine line, so to speak.)

 

[amigo de christo]

Hope nobody is denying either! (As long as we aren't mistaking "where He is" to be a physical location.) Christ in us IS the hope of glory, and Christ above ever lives to make intercession for us. He is the "bridge" to the Father above, standing in the gap between us and the Father. He said that "no man can come to the Father but by me".

It is deep (Christ in us) calling unto deep (God/Christ above):

Psa 42:7
Deep calleth unto deep at the noise of thy waterspouts: all thy waves and thy billows are gone over me.

The fountains of the deep springing up at the same time as the windows of heaven open and pour down:

Gen 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Psa 85:9-12
Surely his salvation is nigh them that fear him; that glory may dwell in our land.
Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.
Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven.
Yea, the LORD shall give that which is good; and our land shall yield her increase.

(We will see some similarities in false religions of the world with Christian truths, but as we know the devil counterfeits things of God by perverting the truth. And often the difference between flesh and spirit is just a thin fine line, so to speak.)

Correct a mendo sister . there are similarities within the false religoins , as with christains .
THAT IS WHAT THEY TARGETED . THEY found out what they all had in common .
Now humanity itself has a concept of what it sees as love and doing good .
Aka THAT IS WHAT THEY Targeted .
NOW they also will use that to try and convince the religoins
that GOD is in all them , ITS men that messed it up and that all we need to do is forget fundamental doctrine
and just love one another etc .
BUT here is the truth , the reason they have similiarties is not because THEY serve the same GOD
but because satan has always mixed truths into HIS LIE . satan created all these other mindsets and religoins
But to many they see it as man sees it . OH GOD must be in everyone and every religoin
we just need to get rid of BELIEFS in order to have UNITY again .
ITS a whopper of a lie sister . You see satan has always come in , even using truth
but twists it to seduce . This delusion will unite the lost to be as one .
In time the mantra will simply be just love one another and do good
and everyone wont even care what anyone else beleives or follows .
THEY will just merge as one under what they THINK is GOD and IS HIS LOVE
but it aint . CAUSE THE LOVE OF GOD WONT REJOICE IN A LIE , IN INQUITY
it rejoices ONLY IN TRUTH . and sister , THE GOSPEL IS TRUTH . so it would never
replace the one true gospel of CHRIST with any other gospel of just do good works and it dont matter what
version of so called god ya served or beleived in . CAUSE JESUS made it darn sure
IT DO MATTER WHO and WHAT WE BELEIVE . remember this to the end sister .
To the end .

 

[Lizbeth]

just wait till you read his latest response to behold .
and yet the very social inclusive gospel itself IS NEW AGE .
remember their goal sister , these elites
they dont care much about doctrine ,
they care only that folks come to the idea that one does not have to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
they all HAVE that IN COMMON sister .
the doctrine is different , not identical
but even the very liberal gospel that epi himself identified
He cannot see it is all over the inclusive realm itself . THEY are gonna all unite as one .
Inclusivism says the same thing concering Christ and the SPIRIT that epi just
identified in the liberal gospel . HECK its all the same mantra sister
i tried to tell us , they wont have identical doctrine
but what will be identical is THEY WONT BELIEVE WE NEED TO BELEIVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
and tis taking hearts capitve big time in every realm of christendom . its getting worse all the time sister .
But as for us , WE WONT be heeding that mess . we is sticking to the true LIFE SAVING LIFE CHANGING GOSPEL
and pointing to the REAL JESUS THE CHRIST in that bible and not the one invented of men .

I think he is calling us new age if we believe that Christ is in us, the hope of glory....comparing that to Buddhism. Amen, I agree.... the co-exist all roads and religions lead to God false gospel is new age. It is the yoga spirit of Hinduism that they have been waiting to take over the hearts of the world. Think that really is "the spirit of the world" actually....as you know it comes in many guises. At it's core it is self-righteousness, as opposed to the righteousness of Christ. The deceptive way that seemeth right to man...but ISN'T! And taking away the offense of the cross turns Christianity into just another one of the world's pantheon of religions.

 

[Lizbeth]

Correct a mendo sister . there are similarities within the false religoins , as with christains .
THAT IS WHAT THEY TARGETED . THEY found out what they all had in common .
Now humanity itself has a concept of what it sees as love and doing good .
Aka THAT IS WHAT THEY Targeted .
NOW they also will use that to try and convince the religoins
that GOD is in all them , ITS men that messed it up and that all we need to do is forget fundamental doctrine
and just love one another etc .
BUT here is the truth , the reason they have similiarties is not because THEY serve the same GOD
but because satan has always mixed truths into HIS LIE . satan created all these other mindsets and religoins
But to many they see it as man sees it . OH GOD must be in everyone and every religoin
we just need to get rid of BELIEFS in order to have UNITY again .
ITS a whopper of a lie sister . You see satan has always come in , even using truth
but twists it to seduce . This delusion will unite the lost to be as one .
In time the mantra will simply be just love one another and do good
and everyone wont even care what anyone else beleives or follows .
THEY will just merge as one under what they THINK is GOD and IS HIS LOVE
but it aint . CAUSE THE LOVE OF GOD WONT REJOICE IN A LIE , IN INQUITY
it rejoices ONLY IN TRUTH . and sister , THE GOSPEL IS TRUTH . so it would never
replace the one true gospel of CHRIST with any other gospel of just do good works and it dont matter what
version of so called god ya served or beleived in . CAUSE JESUS made it darn sure
IT DO MATTER WHO and WHAT WE BELEIVE . remember this to the end sister .
To the end .

So right brother. Angel of light....... it is a mixture that is sooooo deceptive.

I'm encouraged by your posts.

 

[amigo de christo]

Hope nobody is denying either! (As long as we aren't mistaking "where He is" to be a physical location.) Christ in us IS the hope of glory, and Christ above ever lives to make intercession for us. He is the "bridge" to the Father above, standing in the gap between us and the Father. He said that "no man can come to the Father but by me".

It is deep (Christ in us) calling unto deep (God/Christ above):

Psa 42:7
Deep calleth unto deep at the noise of thy waterspouts: all thy waves and thy billows are gone over me.

The fountains of the deep springing up at the same time as the windows of heaven open and pour down:

Gen 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Psa 85:9-12
Surely his salvation is nigh them that fear him; that glory may dwell in our land.
Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.
Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven.
Yea, the LORD shall give that which is good; and our land shall yield her increase.

(We will see some similarities in false religions of the world with Christian truths, but as we know the devil counterfeits things of God by perverting the truth. And often the difference between flesh and spirit is just a thin fine line, so to speak.)

fundamental truth , belief had to be removed and they did so by finding what folks had in common
within the world and its religoins .
Satan dont care if one follows any other path or etc
HE only cares that one DONT FOLLOW CHRIST . cause HE KNOWS those who do so are saved
that those who DO BELEIVE will not perish .
SO here he comes again , trying to convince the world and christendom and all religoins
YE have no need to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST , YE shall not perish
for , now watch this sister cause he quoates a truth to support his lie , FOR GOD IS LOVE .
HE says that but does so to get people to believe a lie .
JUST LIKE HE DID in the garden . YE SHALL NOT DIE , YE shall JUST become as gods to know good and evil .
WELL THEY DID DIE and yes they did also become as gods to know good and evil .
HE USES TRUTHS to supplant a deception . And so do his ministirs sister .
ITS dire important we TRUST CHRIST and not men , and biblical truth and not men who twisted it .

 

[amigo de christo]

So right brother. Angel of light....... it is a mixture that is sooooo deceptive.

I'm encouraged by your posts.

YEs look again at another example satan did .
HE told JESUS to cast himself off the cliff . WHICH WOULD BE TEMPTING GOD
but used a true scripture to make it seem as though IT was OKAY TO DO SO .
WHEN in truth the scripture was not talking about THOSE WHO TEMPT GOD
but rather that GOD will simply protect us . satan is very slick sister . very .