Is LGBTQ and Transgender inclusion in civil rights an ethical and moral and constitutional problem for Christians?

[Raccoon1010]

I thought on the issue and while I was hearing things spiritual from above I heard some common sense and wisdom come down.

I had noticed that men that had transgender operations and such, makeup and other factors which could be hormone therapy. That some of them could become hard to distinguish that they were lying and deceiving about their true gender. Some people men and women might be deceived by that transgender deceptive practice.

I then became aware that they had to disclose their true gender when interacting socially and in dating and in sexual relationships as not to infringe on the God given rights of good Christians. And I also saw on the news a fight in laws of various states and hopefully not the federal government, that they thought they had the right to be called by a deceptive gender designation.

Well I realized there appears to be a very disturbing condition developing in the United States and hopefully it hasn't become an international problem of deceptive practices. Apparently some people thought they had the right constitutionally to be deceptive with people regarding their birth gender.

Now days with transgender surgery and swapping genitals between male and female body parts together with the many strange scientific medical procedures that the spiritual city of Sodom and Egypt has come up with I can see that some innocent people, Christian or not, could be deceived and harmed by them.

How could they be harmed? In the swinger and transgender, cross dresser, nakedness and other display areas in regions within some areas of the USA I saw studies about diseases which spread primarily in the gay communities, such as HIV and other diseases.

And I thought do they really have a right not to disclose publicly their birth gender? And then it all went down hill from their in my investigation.

I did a search on the internet for bad outcomes of finding out someones date or partner was transgender and deceiving them. I saw a lot of introducing the internet viewers in an attempt to present transgender in a pleasant way, however disgusting the practice is. I then wondered if the male and female disgusted targets were not going to address the issue because they wanted to maintain their proper social group without disturbance. I also wondered if the internet and media empires were trying to part the hetero sexual rights and people to force the spiritual city of Sodom and Egypt on the unsuspecting population by manipulating the internet search engines and media experience. And that could have implications for youth in the country.

It is wise for Christians to be aware of wolves hiding among sheep. And I thought children should only be given to parents that were mature responsible and truthful individuals. Would morally and ethically raise their children to join society in the way that is right morally and ethically. Is it right to deceive people with gender pronouns and constitutional treachery. And I wondered then about law makers and their ethics and morality like the ACLU organization itself that claimed to uphold the rights of the people.

 

[Raccoon1010]

 

[BlessedPeace]

That image looks photoshopped. The disc looks familiar. NASA sent a probe into space years ago and added a disc that was meant to be utilized as a encyclopedia of sorts describing our civilization and how to get here.

As to the question in the OP. Every citizen has civil and Constitutional rights.
I don't believe gender disorders nor sex habits entitled someone to have conferred upon themselves special rights.

Conversely , those issues should not revoke their civil and Constitutional rights.

 

[SavedInHim]

I don't see it as a problem. The Constitution and Bill of Rights are for all Americans. Morally and ethically I have a problem with it though. I'm not interested in rewriting the Constitution, only in preaching the gospel.

 

[christsavedme]

I thought on the issue and while I was hearing things spiritual from above I heard some common sense and wisdom come down.

I had noticed that men that had transgender operations and such, makeup and other factors which could be hormone therapy. That some of them could become hard to distinguish that they were lying and deceiving about their true gender. Some people men and women might be deceived by that transgender deceptive practice.

I then became aware that they had to disclose their true gender when interacting socially and in dating and in sexual relationships as not to infringe on the God given rights of good Christians. And I also saw on the news a fight in laws of various states and hopefully not the federal government, that they thought they had the right to be called by a deceptive gender designation.

Well I realized there appears to be a very disturbing condition developing in the United States and hopefully it hasn't become an international problem of deceptive practices. Apparently some people thought they had the right constitutionally to be deceptive with people regarding their birth gender.

Now days with transgender surgery and swapping genitals between male and female body parts together with the many strange scientific medical procedures that the spiritual city of Sodom and Egypt has come up with I can see that some innocent people, Christian or not, could be deceived and harmed by them.

How could they be harmed? In the swinger and transgender, cross dresser, nakedness and other display areas in regions within some areas of the USA I saw studies about diseases which spread primarily in the gay communities, such as HIV and other diseases.

And I thought do they really have a right not to disclose publicly their birth gender? And then it all went down hill from their in my investigation.

I did a search on the internet for bad outcomes of finding out someones date or partner was transgender and deceiving them. I saw a lot of introducing the internet viewers in an attempt to present transgender in a pleasant way, however disgusting the practice is. I then wondered if the male and female disgusted targets were not going to address the issue because they wanted to maintain their proper social group without disturbance. I also wondered if the internet and media empires were trying to part the hetero sexual rights and people to force the spiritual city of Sodom and Egypt on the unsuspecting population by manipulating the internet search engines and media experience. And that could have implications for youth in the country.

It is wise for Christians to be aware of wolves hiding among sheep. And I thought children should only be given to parents that were mature responsible and truthful individuals. Would morally and ethically raise their children to join society in the way that is right morally and ethically. Is it right to deceive people with gender pronouns and constitutional treachery. And I wondered then about law makers and their ethics and morality like the ACLU organization itself that claimed to uphold the rights of the people.

Some people that that the homosexual question is to our era what the Gentile question was to the Apostles. As in: are the statements regarding homosexuality in the Bible holiness codes(like practices around what to eat or wear), or morality/justice codes? Holiness codes are malleable, morality and justice codes aren't.

My personal opinion is, we shouldn't be mean to gays, but I'm not sure about full inclusion into the body of Christ. On the other hand, some gays are more palatable to me than others. A douglas murray or anderson cooper are just normal people where if they didn't tell you, you wouldn't even notice they're gay. It's the flamboyant, aggressive, obviously mentally ill gays and trans people that bother me quite a lot. Those seem quite possessed by Satan.

 

[Raccoon1010]

@BlessedPeace I'm not entirely sure what you were saying, please read below and see if it correctly addressed your concerns about anyone have basic human rights given by God. Skip the following paragraph please :)

I'm really disappointed in the lack of support I'm hearing from this forum which is supposed to be Christians and children of God and should be supporting Christianity against the spiritual city of Sodom and Egypt.

I addressed some serious issues of deception from the transgender approach in the community clearly. It is relevant to God given rights as a human being and child of God. People do have the right to be on the beguilers side and approach people in society with deceptive practices of disguising their bodies as to create an image God didn't, which is the presenting and disguising themselves as a gender they were not created with. And I think the Creator would see it as an abomination of what he created.

Humans whether lying about their identity or not do have some rights which all people do which is human rights, like right to food and drink and working to earn money. What they don't have the right to do is lie about their sexual identity while interaction romantically with others. Therefore they must disclose their true sexual identity before approaching someone romantically.

And that problem has been twisted by the ACLU as if they have a right to present themselves deceptively in a romantic action. And to create a constitution law as if they had some form of human rights, that issue should be addressed. Which would read something to the effect that a transgender disguising themselves and not disclosing their true gender in a romantic action is guilty by the law for possible damages which could include mental, emotional and if diseased physical. Christian children of God and other people have the right not to be damaged thru deceptive practices or laws that protect criminal behavior. And that is the moral and ethical issue here.

And I don't support addressing the issue of transgender rights in a constitution of a God fearing and loving country in the first place.

 

[BlessedPeace]

@BlessedPeace I'm not entirely sure what you were saying, please read below and see if it correctly addressed your concerns about anyone have basic human rights given by God. Skip the following paragraph please :)

I'm really disappointed in the lack of support I'm hearing from this forum which is supposed to be Christians and children of God and should be supporting Christianity against the spiritual city of Sodom and Egypt.

I addressed some serious issues of deception from the transgender approach in the community clearly. It is relevant to God given rights as a human being and child of God. People do have the right to be on the beguilers side and approach people in society with deceptive practices of disguising their bodies as to create an image God didn't, which is the presenting and disguising themselves as a gender they were not created with. And I think the Creator would see it as an abomination of what he created.

Humans whether lying about their identity or not do have some rights which all people do which is human rights, like right to food and drink and working to earn money. What they don't have the right to do is lie about their sexual identity while interaction romantically with others. Therefore they must disclose their true sexual identity before approaching someone romantically.

And that problem has been twisted by the ACLU as if they have a right to present themselves deceptively in a romantic action. And to create a constitution law as if they had some form of human rights, that issue should be addressed. Which would read something to the effect that a transgender disguising themselves and not disclosing their true gender in a romantic action is guilty by the law for possible damages which could include mental, emotional and if diseased physical. Christian children of God and other people have the right not to be damaged thru deceptive practices or laws that protect criminal behavior. And that is the moral and ethical issue here.

And I don't support addressing the issue of transgender rights in a constitution of a God fearing and loving country in the first place.

In the States there is a common law known as Fraud by omission or, Fraud by non-disclosure.

I think the Trans issue for deception is able to be prosecuted today.

The STD issue as most know is not exclusively a homosexual issue.

Basically the reality in America is this. The rainbow Sodomites and gender pretenders have rights,Constitutional and Civil, as Americans.

The Civil Union decision by SCOTUS is a 14th Amendment matter. As Christians know, the community of the rainbow gender pretenders can never be married according to God's standards and practice.

I hope that helps.

 

[Raccoon1010]

In the States there is a common law known as Fraud by omission or, Fraud by non-disclosure.

I think the Trans issue for deception is able to be prosecuted today.

The STD issue as most know is not exclusively a homosexual issue.

Basically the reality in America is this. The rainbow Sodomites and gender pretenders have rights,Constitutional and Civil, as Americans.

The Civil Union decision by SCOTUS is a 14th Amendment matter. As Christians know, the community of the rainbow gender pretenders can never be married according to God's standards and practice.

I hope that helps.

Thanks for your response.

I do have concerns that the first sentence in your response is misleading to the issue I addressed and under-emphasizing the severity of the problem and not addressing the correct area of law or worded to protect people from transgender deceptive practices that can harm innocent individuals. I believe more exact legal language written into the law is a responsibility of the Federal and State governments to ensure that rights of citizens are not violated.

I did a little more investigation and found that the states have taken the authority to interpret the first amendment in their own way, which also might be misleading, and I'm not sure their interpreted and enacted law language is designed to protect against those problems.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Thanks for your response.

I do have concerns that the first sentence in your response is misleading to the issue I addressed and under-emphasizing the severity of the problem and not addressing the correct area of law or worded to protect people from transgender deceptive practices that can harm innocent individuals. I believe more exact legal language written into the law is a responsibility of the Federal and State governments to ensure that rights of citizens are not violated.

I did a little more investigation and found that the states have taken the authority to interpret the first amendment in their own way, which also might be misleading, and I'm not sure their interpreted and enacted law language is designed to protect against those problems.

Is Sex by Deception a Form of Rape? (Published 2019)

Laws are seeking to elucidate the problem of “rape by fraud.”

www.nytimes.com

 

[Raccoon1010]

Is Sex by Deception a Form of Rape? (Published 2019)

Laws are seeking to elucidate the problem of “rape by fraud.”

www.nytimes.com

Thanks for that internet lookup it is helpful.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Another helpful link,imo, though not directly rainbow related.
Just as a resource in general for our community in Christ.

Biblical Justice and Modern Law: Drawing Parallels for Your...

Explore the connections between Biblical justice and modern law, and find inspiration for your assignments by drawing meaningful parallels.

christian.net

 

[quietthinker]

Is LGBTQ and Transgender inclusion in civil rights an ethical and moral and constitutional problem for Christians?​

Is the inclusion of sinners in civil rights an ethical and moral and constitutional problem for Christians?

 

[Skovand]

As a Christian it’s not a problem for me at all to recognize the rights of others including the trans community to be treated equally. Luckily I am in a church where those who desire to strip the rights away from others don’t really attend.

 

[Debp]

The real problem is the Woke agenda is seeking to brainwash children.

If they would just live their own lives....but no, they seek to brainwash others, especially children. That's evil.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Human rights ?

But also The UN has a Human rights ? I do not think that the UN so called Human rights are truly worth a cracker, such is deceptive and Satanic not to mention about This world is full of deceptions and delusions !!! that's a fact, i see the workings of Communism in the UN game it plays. it's working to dominate !
The UN should only be a guide lines, not a dictatorship lording it over everyone. It starterd out ok idea but now it's become a moronic force of Evil. does it suport Christ Jesus as it's Lord and Saviour ? No it does not in fact ! so it's of this world !

Who has the right to dictate to peoples Nations Governments, as to who can come in, when the Government has a mandate of the people that rejects what the UN wants to Dictate and works against the peoples democratic rights in fact ! so the peoples Voting rights are disregarded by such a domanating force over the people of the Nation in fact !

The get into Nations Governments and undermine the Peoples rights from within, so you can not vote on issues as well, they make the issues for you all ? even if such was never a real issue, but they will blow such up to be an issue way out of proportion. because that's what they want and play their Games that way. much like Hitler playd things and as every Communist does. so they are of the same ilk in fact working to undermine the People ! It's just another Arm of Government intent of Lording it over the People. not to mention setting up traps, so as to make it hard to deal with such they have set up !

Look at Joe Biden he claims that he has set Trump up, so Trump's hands will be tied on so many issues in fact.
Joe Biden and his Co are very cunning to be sure, for they are at war with what the USA once was, the foundations that built the USA to be great are undermined by the Socialist Communist and Nazis in fact ! Cultral Marxism is on display ! such is a Utopia that fools fall for !
Just look at the game play of the Nazis, it's founded on a Utopia vision and it's nothing but built up by deceptions and lies ! it's all founded on delusions ! But the fact of reality is that one has to understand is that, who is dominating over the People ? They are !

So when one works, so as to dominate over the people ? someone is up to something ! or they believe that you do not have a right to an opinion in fact ! so they work so as to undermine freedom of speech in fact !

Is not total freedom of speech a Human right ? regardless what one says in fact ! now in history who undermined freedom of speech ? Hitler ! Starlin ! that's right Socialist !

Socialism undermines real True Human rights in fact and History proves it, not to mention such is a Cancer in fact for it turns people into trash, fact is it undermines the Soul and Christ Jesus in fact ! for Socialism is founded on delusions and deceptions. only a fool falls for such nonsense !

Not to mention i do not Idolise Capitalism, sadly because the majority do not keeping an eye on such is the issue, not to let morons dominats over such ? that's the key ! for their are evils in everything but a truly educated people on the subjects is needed, not to mention I am not against a Social Society. but Socialism is not founded on a Social Society in fact ! but dominating over the People, like as if they are all Mushrooms.

Sure i believe a Nation of moronic dolts need Socialism or Communism, for such a people can not be trusted at all, but that's what Socialism creats in fact ! for they want to dominate over the People ! But that is not what Christ Jesus is about at all, He brings people up ! he does not enslave people !
Remember what Moses said to such who was dictating over the Peope ? Let my People Go ! why was that ? well the people of God do not need to be dictated over, like degenerats are.

All people who are not Saved are degenerats in fact ! and if you do not understand that fact, you are not Saved ! as what were you before you were Saved ? Lost !
The Jews were set on Track regards Moses in regard God !

 

[Zachariah.]

I thought on the issue and while I was hearing things spiritual from above I heard some common sense and wisdom come down.

I had noticed that men that had transgender operations and such, makeup and other factors which could be hormone therapy. That some of them could become hard to distinguish that they were lying and deceiving about their true gender. Some people men and women might be deceived by that transgender deceptive practice.

I then became aware that they had to disclose their true gender when interacting socially and in dating and in sexual relationships as not to infringe on the God given rights of good Christians. And I also saw on the news a fight in laws of various states and hopefully not the federal government, that they thought they had the right to be called by a deceptive gender designation.

Well I realized there appears to be a very disturbing condition developing in the United States and hopefully it hasn't become an international problem of deceptive practices. Apparently some people thought they had the right constitutionally to be deceptive with people regarding their birth gender.

Now days with transgender surgery and swapping genitals between male and female body parts together with the many strange scientific medical procedures that the spiritual city of Sodom and Egypt has come up with I can see that some innocent people, Christian or not, could be deceived and harmed by them.

How could they be harmed? In the swinger and transgender, cross dresser, nakedness and other display areas in regions within some areas of the USA I saw studies about diseases which spread primarily in the gay communities, such as HIV and other diseases.

And I thought do they really have a right not to disclose publicly their birth gender? And then it all went down hill from their in my investigation.

I did a search on the internet for bad outcomes of finding out someones date or partner was transgender and deceiving them. I saw a lot of introducing the internet viewers in an attempt to present transgender in a pleasant way, however disgusting the practice is. I then wondered if the male and female disgusted targets were not going to address the issue because they wanted to maintain their proper social group without disturbance. I also wondered if the internet and media empires were trying to part the hetero sexual rights and people to force the spiritual city of Sodom and Egypt on the unsuspecting population by manipulating the internet search engines and media experience. And that could have implications for youth in the country.

It is wise for Christians to be aware of wolves hiding among sheep. And I thought children should only be given to parents that were mature responsible and truthful individuals. Would morally and ethically raise their children to join society in the way that is right morally and ethically. Is it right to deceive people with gender pronouns and constitutional treachery. And I wondered then about law makers and their ethics and morality like the ACLU organization itself that claimed to uphold the rights of the people.

All political agenda and man made law is problem for Christians. Authentic Christians are about equality and freedom. They do not involve themselves with inauthentic law and systems of control.

Politics and man made law are the very opposite of equality and freedom.