Thinking Christians will support Trump who is pro christian, pro life, pro Israel, make American great again. And you????
Thinking Christians will support Trump who is pro christian, pro life, pro Israel, make American great again.
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Is this even supposed to be discussed here? How is trump theology? Oh wait, I think I know
Thinking Christians will support Trump who is pro christian, pro life, pro Israel. Pro christian, pro life, pro Israel is very important theology. Old senile Biden and the dems are pro abortion, anti christian, anti Israel.
BlessedPeace
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Bait for the haters,you realize.
God bless Donald and his family. And shield them all from his Demonic enemies. In Yeshuas mighty name I ask it.
God bless Donald and his family. And shield them all from his Demonic enemies. In Yeshuas mighty name I ask it.
Randy Kluth
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He gave you the answer before you asked. Trump is "Pro christian, pro life, pro Israel." Biden is Catholic but is controversial as a Catholic within that communion. He does not follow traditionally-Catholic political positions, such as rejecting abortion, embracing only traditional marriage, etc.
If you "know something" I'm not sure I want to hear it. ;)
Brakelite
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Trump's theology seems to be the same as Christian Nationalism.
In other words, evangelical Christianity and so called Pentecostalism are no longer in a position to fully trust God to establish righteousness and truth in the nation, therefore they must turn to politics and establish righteousness through the forces of the various legislative bodies of the American government. It's called PROJECT 2025.
In other words, evangelical Christianity and so called Pentecostalism are no longer in a position to fully trust God to establish righteousness and truth in the nation, therefore they must turn to politics and establish righteousness through the forces of the various legislative bodies of the American government. It's called PROJECT 2025.
Randy Kluth
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Those like me who are pro-Trump are behind him not because of his personal spirituality, but more, because his position best aligns with Christian interests. He's a better man, by far, than Biden.
To get interested in politics is not a lack of trust in God. On the contrary, it is a matter of being responsible before God, to be engaged with processes that responsible people should be concerned with.
Are you the kind of person who leaves your house and car doors unlocked? If not, are you showing a lack of trust? No, you're being responsible in an ungodly world.
BlessedPeace
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Our national anthem implies Nationalism. Even Christian Nationalism.
Trump is not a Racist. Nor a White Supremacist.
His haters are .
Brakelite
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An unnecessary implication, and not from me.
The very first major falling away in Christian history took place in Rome when the bishops of Rome stepped up to the vacant throne of the Caesars and took over the Civic duties and embraced the political power of the Empire. Over the ensuing centuries the church in Rome justified this by "baptizing" pagan temples, statues, rituals, giving them "Christian" names and purpose. Thus began the great falling away and apostasy that prophecy spoke of throughout the NT. This was the Genesis of the forming of the second phase of the 4th beast of Daniel 7... The papal phase of empirical Rome... And the prophetic fulfillment of the rise of the little horn in that same chapter. A union of church and state against which Jesus warned of.
KJV Luke 22:25-26
25 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them (secular government); and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors.
26 But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.
When Christian America seeks to establish Christian laws through politics, and enforces those same laws through the courts and inflicts penalties upon those who disobey, they will then have formed an image to the papal beast of the middle ages, and the American republic along with its freedoms of speech, religion, and conscience, will cease to exist. National apostasy will result in national ruin.
Debp
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Well said. That's why I am voting for Trump. Too much craziness going on with the Biden administration.
It doesn’t mean that some on the forum who don’t really like Trump are not ‘ thinking ‘ some of us don’t have to make a choice about voting in the USA, so our opinions and thoughts are because we reflect on other factors regarding him.
The national anthem implies nationalism; but not Christian nationalism, any more than the words "under God" imply Muslim nationalism. The US was not founded as a Christian nation no matter how much Christian nationalists want it to be. Therefore, the whole premise of returning the US to its roots as a Christian nation is based on fairy tales. You won't find the words Jesus or Christian anywhere in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or Declaration of Independence. Many of the revered founding fathers referred to "Providence." Who is Providence? Does Yahweh ever refer to himself as Providence in His word? Did He tell Moses to say to the people, Providence has sent you?
Besides all this, trying to make the US a nation of people with morality and fear of the Lord through legislation will never work. It's far too late for that. What are you gonna do, make it a law that people must attend church three times a week and read God's word every morning and night? The problem isn't legislation but culture. You can pass all the legislation you want, but if the culture is corrupt nothing will change; people will find a way to indulge their vices.
Actually, a thinking person who thinks this through to its logical conclusion can see the whole idea is ridiculous. Christian nationalism is an imaginary shield that people think will protect us from the wrath of God and the evils of the Democrat party. I'll go one record right now saying that is Trump is elected, the US will not become a Christian nation and people's moral values will remain virtually unchanged.
That said, the solution is preaching the gospel and leading by example. If we want to influence the culture for good, there's your answer.
Besides all this, trying to make the US a nation of people with morality and fear of the Lord through legislation will never work. It's far too late for that. What are you gonna do, make it a law that people must attend church three times a week and read God's word every morning and night? The problem isn't legislation but culture. You can pass all the legislation you want, but if the culture is corrupt nothing will change; people will find a way to indulge their vices.
Actually, a thinking person who thinks this through to its logical conclusion can see the whole idea is ridiculous. Christian nationalism is an imaginary shield that people think will protect us from the wrath of God and the evils of the Democrat party. I'll go one record right now saying that is Trump is elected, the US will not become a Christian nation and people's moral values will remain virtually unchanged.
That said, the solution is preaching the gospel and leading by example. If we want to influence the culture for good, there's your answer.
Wrangler
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Every argument against Trump is a distraction from PUBLIC POLICY.
Public policy is the #1 criteria. Everyone knows this. Therefore, the Left tries to compensate for lack of substance with shrill emotion in pretending secondary things matter more.
Nationalism. As Americans, that must be our guiding principle; What is in our best interest? Protecting our sovereign border from invasion is tops on the list. Without a border, we don’t have a country. Without enforcing our immigration laws, we are a lawless - and therefore, ungodly - country.
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Michiah-Imla
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This next presidential election will show how much time we have until that man of sin is revealed.
If Biden wins = less time.
If Trump wins = more time.
If Biden wins = less time.
If Trump wins = more time.
BlessedPeace
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An unnecessary rebuttal.
I offered the information regarding Nationalism because Christian Nationalism was introduced into this discussion without an information link to educate readers who may not know what Nationalism is. I never quoted you.
America is a Republic. A Constitutional Republic.
Rome was first a Republic. Then as ascended to the status of Empire.
Debp
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This California sheriff says it very well....the craziness going on under the Democratic leadership!!! (Brief video)
Debp
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The sheriff says vote the policies not the person... exactly what a lot of us have been saying all along.
Wrangler
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Reason says this! I’ve long held the proper order of analysis is:
- Public policy position. If equal, go to step 2.
- Resume. Track record of success in implementing above public policies. If equal, go to step 3.
- Personal integrity. If equal, go to step 4.
- Like ability.
Wrangler
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For those legal experts out there who see no issues for appeal, consider this.
www.zerohedge.com
Yale Law Professor Shreds Trump Verdict, Cites "Serious" Constitutional Problems | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
BlessedPeace
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YEAH! He'll make history again. The first felon to legally enter the WH. Compared to all those who were Felons during their opportunity to be one one while in the WH.
Trump 2024 Baby!
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