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Notice what peter and later paul went about preaching .
Compare that to what we hear today as folks leave all other religoins in total darkness .
For they say let all the world know assuredly , IT DONT MATTER WHAT RELIGOIN one is of
It dont matter if they believe JESUS TO BE THE CHRIST or not
just find common ground and do some good works . Talk about a delusion . what a strong delusion too .
IT has removed the dire necessity to repent and beleive ON THE VERY CHRIST THAT GOD THE FATHER SENT .
and how fast the peoples have quickly forgotten
that He who denies JESUS is the CHRIST , is an anti christ . BUT all they wanna do is FIND COMMON GROUND .
SO telll me everyone what common ground is there between CHRIST and ANTI CHRIST .
exactly . THERE AINT . we must preach the original life saving and life changing gospel of CHRIST JESUS .
Do not be lulled away by means of a love that has come of the world
to simply merge all to be as one under what they will and even now do beleive to be GOD .
Cause , WELLL , it AINT GOD . Its the dragon masquerading as an angel of light and love
to simply seduce planet earth and all within it to merge in one final hour as ONE with IT . watch out folks .
Amen. What happens to the "offence of the cross" in having common ground with the world? Where is the salt in that....it has lost its saltiness. God says that friendship with the world is enmity with Him and we are to come out from among them to be received by Him.

Departing from the word of God is not Christianity....it is not the gospel.....it is a man-made hybrid religion. That means it is not ruled by God's Spirit but by another spirit altogether. An offering of STRANGE fire. (In other words, hybrid is NOT OF GOD, period. Full stop. End of story. It is just another religion in the pantheon of PAGAN religions.)
 
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Amen. What happens to the "offence of the cross" in having common ground with the world?

I see you agree with any and all superficialities that present themselves here as religious certainties. You are confusing the world with humanity. Are you still human? In your estimation you are above all that and can sit in judgment of others. So be it. There must be those kinds of people.

Confusion abounds...love is lacking, understanding wanes.

The New Covenant is NOT with the world but with Israel (both houses)...the Israel of God. Such are called into holiness...

Now, there is obviously NO understanding of holiness among those who try to impose that standard on the world. So we get these superficial religious rants on the level of the Pharisees that justify themselves and their own religious beliefs to condemn those who don't have their prejudices (Thankfully).

Jesus came only to lost sheep of Israel. Look for where Jesus went to India or China, or even Greece.

A hybrid religion? Is the bible a hybrid? Old Testament and New Testament. I don't think that those who have NEVER experienced holiness will ever understand the higher calling that is in Christ. A Christian..a real one...is being trained to RULE over the world to come. But MANY are not even fit as believers to be the ones who are ruled over...being high-minded, judgmental, head-strong, bigoted, willful.
Where is the salt in that....it has lost its saltiness. God says that friendship with the world is enmity with Him and we are to come out from among them to be received by Him.

The world system includes vain religions like so many are trying to confuse the true walk of faith in Christ with. So the fingers are pointing back at the accusers.
Departing from the word of God is not Christianity....it is not the gospel.....it is a man-made hybrid religion.

Departing from the truth you should say...while pontificating on a misunderstood twisting of the bible meant to grandstand, self-justify, and judge others as all religious narcissists do. The modern gospel attracts narcissists who then compel others into the same dogmatic legalism they justify themselves with.
That means it is not ruled by God's Spirit but by another spirit altogether. An offering of STRANGE fire. (In other words, hybrid is NOT OF GOD, period. Full stop. End of story. It is just another religion in the pantheon of PAGAN religions.)
Strange fire is when you claim to be pleasing to God and speaking for God ...and you are not...just in the presumptive imagination of your own heart. Strange fire is when you adopt a worldly Christianity based on filling pews and disparage the genuine article among those who walk in the truth. Not waiting for power from heaven but going around half-baked following the spirit of the age...the new modern take on the gospel that saves men in their rebellious state. And to add sin to sin...condemning others whom the Lord does not condemn.

So many people have a false covering. And are made worse than infidels by diverting basic righteousness as being evil in order to self-justify. No humility, no fear of the Lord...just more and more religious certainty fueled by assumptions and presumptions.

It's all religious smoke and mirrors...without power, without love, without truth.

And they loved to have it so. Why? It protects and exalts their flesh. :ummm:
 

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So why hasn’t he been booted off the board if what he teaches is against God’s written word?
Well, considering that those who speak incessantly against Jesus' deity are tolerated, and those who speak evil of others are tolerated, and both those who do and don't preach predestination to salvation are tolerated, this isn't really a test, is it?

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Isn't this how you consider yourself?

Much love!
To you perhaps. The modern gospel appropriates all righteousness to itself....and judges all others as hell bound. My saying that this is not the gospel and why this scheme is so readily accepted by uncrucified ones...is indeed judgment...a sound judgment. But I'm not sitting in judgment on others. I'm pointing out how a vain religion does this. Of course from the evil in all men...ANY criticism of the power of the flesh is seen as judgmentalism. As in.....why do you torment us before the time? Maybe you are speaking from such a POV? :contemplate:

Do you identify with yourself? Or with Christ?
 

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Well, considering that those who speak incessantly against Jesus' deity are tolerated, and those who speak evil of others are tolerated, and both those who do and don't preach predestination to salvation are tolerated, this isn't really a test, is it?

Much love!
Well said. and so true.. they allow alot in here..
 
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To you perhaps.
I have no idea what you mean by this.

I recall that you had explained once how God had given you visitation (episkopay) and approved you, and now you were giving visitation to others, to approve or reject. And how you had called yourself 'episkopay' on other forums for this reason, but hadn't learned the word yet when you signed up here, though you chose 'episkopos' for this same reason, that you believe you are to give visitation to others.

Is this not true? If I'm mistaken I apologize. I remember you being this plain about it, some years ago.

Much love!
 
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I have no idea what you mean by this.

I recall that you had explained once how God had given you visitation (episkopay) and approved you, and now you were giving visitation to others, to approve or reject. And how you had called yourself 'episkopay' on other forums, but hadn't learned the word yet when you signed up here, though you chose 'episkopos' for this same reason, that you believe you are to give visitation to others.

Is this not true? If I'm mistaken I apologize. I remember you being this plain about it, some years ago.

Much love!
Blessings in Christ Jesus marks. When and if a person has a true visitation from The Lord, it is then, because of The Holiness of The Lord, that they know and have no doubt that they are nothing and He(The Lord) is all. The fear of The Lord is established for a lifetime. The Lord has said, what you have done to the least of these little ones, you have done it to Me. There has been no fear of The Lord here, only unrighteous judgements waiting to be rewarded.
 
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Blessings in Christ Jesus marks. When and if a person has a true visitation from The Lord, it is then, because of The Holiness of The Lord, that they know and have no doubt that they are nothing and He(The Lord) is all. The fear of The Lord is established for a lifetime. The Lord has said, what you have done to the least of these little ones, you have done it to Me. There has been no fear of The Lord here, only unrighteous judgements waiting to be rewarded.
I think we need to be very careful. Satan comes as an angel of light. I know many who claim they have been visited from God. yet we see no proof of this..
 

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I see you agree with any and all superficialities that present themselves here as religious certainties. You are confusing the world with humanity. Are you still human? In your estimation you are above all that and can sit in judgment of others. So be it. There must be those kinds of people.

Confusion abounds...love is lacking, understanding wanes.

The New Covenant is NOT with the world but with Israel (both houses)...the Israel of God. Such are called into holiness...

Now, there is obviously NO understanding of holiness among those who try to impose that standard on the world. So we get these superficial religious rants on the level of the Pharisees that justify themselves and their own religious beliefs to condemn those who don't have their prejudices (Thankfully).

Jesus came only to lost sheep of Israel. Look for where Jesus went to India or China, or even Greece.

A hybrid religion? Is the bible a hybrid? Old Testament and New Testament. I don't think that those who have NEVER experienced holiness will ever understand the higher calling that is in Christ. A Christian..a real one...is being trained to RULE over the world to come. But MANY are not even fit as believers to be the ones who are ruled over...being high-minded, judgmental, head-strong, bigoted, willful.


The world system includes vain religions like so many are trying to confuse the true walk of faith in Christ with. So the fingers are pointing back at the accusers.


Departing from the truth you should say...while pontificating on a misunderstood twisting of the bible meant to grandstand, self-justify, and judge others as all religious narcissists do. The modern gospel attracts narcissists who then compel others into the same dogmatic legalism they justify themselves with.

Strange fire is when you claim to be pleasing to God and speaking for God ...and you are not...just in the presumptive imagination of your own heart. Strange fire is when you adopt a worldly Christianity based on filling pews and disparage the genuine article among those who walk in the truth. Not waiting for power from heaven but going around half-baked following the spirit of the age...the new modern take on the gospel that saves men in their rebellious state. And to add sin to sin...condemning others whom the Lord does not condemn.

So many people have a false covering. And are made worse than infidels by diverting basic righteousness as being evil in order to self-justify. No humility, no fear of the Lord...just more and more religious certainty fueled by assumptions and presumptions.

It's all religious smoke and mirrors...without power, without love, without truth.

And they loved to have it so. Why? It protects and exalts their flesh. :ummm:
Must have hit a nerve. Was I talking about you Epi? :IDK:

Fallen/lost humanity are OF the world, as we all once were. Believers are in the world but no longer OF it. (unless we get deceived and wrongly choose to be). But that doesn't mean judging/condemning or isolating ourselves from the lost. On the contrary we are to love our neighbour as ourselves. But it needs to be understood that loving your neighbour does not mean to be UNEQUALLY YOKED with them in spirit/heart. Because WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE SPIRIT OF THE WORLD. Have we got ears to hear this...?

You talk about holiness a lot.....great, I sure do agree with walking holy....
.but are you talking about the same holiness that God talks about in His word? Because HOLY MEANS TO BE SEPARATE...SET APART UNTO GOD.....doesn't it?






 

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I think we need to be very careful. Satan comes as an angel of light. I know many who claim they have been visited from God. yet we see no proof of this..
Blessings, I have had that happen. I was blinded by the light and yet that blinding light was void of love. When The Light of The world(Jesus) visits, His Love penetrates every fiber of our being. Words can not describe.
 

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As in.....why do you torment us before the time? Maybe you are speaking from such a POV? :contemplate:
I truly hope and pray that you find the way to rise above this sort of thing. Evil speaking of others is never a good look, particularly for someone who claims to be Christian.

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I think we need to be very careful. Satan comes as an angel of light. I know many who claim they have been visited from God. yet we see no proof of this..
By their fruit you shall know them. And from the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. What a person says, and how they say it, these show what is in the man's heart.

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Blessings, I have had that happen. I was blinded by the light and yet that blinding light was void of love. When The Light of The world(Jesus) visits, His Love penetrates every fiber of our being. Words can not describe.
Oh I agree,

I think however. many believe they were visited by God. when they were not.

God even warns us that Satan comes as an Angel of light..
 

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Must have hit a nerve. Was I talking about you Epi?
Why do you think something has to be personal in order to respond to it? I think the nerve is in your defense of what you should be forsaking.
:IDK:

Fallen/lost humanity are OF the world, as we all once were. Believers are in the world but no longer OF it. (unless we get deceived and wrongly choose to be). But that doesn't mean judging/condemning or isolating ourselves from the lost. On the contrary we are to love our neighbour as ourselves. But it needs to be understood that loving your neighbour does not mean to be UNEQUALLY YOKED with them in spirit/heart. Because WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE SPIRIT OF THE WORLD. Have we got ears to hear this...?

You talk about holiness a lot.....great, I sure do agree with walking holy....
.but are you talking about the same holiness that God talks about in His word? Because HOLY MEANS TO BE SEPARATE...SET APART UNTO GOD.....doesn't it?
You are so afraid of being infected by non-believers. This is a religious fear not a godly fear... .it reminds me of the religious ones who saw the stricken man lying on the road and carefully avoided him... only to have a hated Samaritan (read Muslim or Hindu in the modern context) actually obey God and treat the other as he would himself...without judgment. Continue to set yourself apart...and above others as you wish. But to confuse holiness and righteousness will cause you to miss both.
 

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Well, considering that those who speak incessantly against Jesus' deity are tolerated, and those who speak evil of others are tolerated, and both those who do and don't preach predestination to salvation are tolerated, this isn't really a test, is it?

Much love!
MANY have abandoned the true gospel , the author of that gospel . and boy do they think they know GOD and LOVE .
this entire delusion is taking captive souls faster than greased lightning
 
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Oh I agree,

I think however. many believe they were visited by God. when they were not.

God even warns us that Satan comes as an Angel of light..
a number so high a kingdom of men fifty thousand strong could not count it in a month .
MANY now beleive they DO hear from GOD , and they have no idea what is really going on at all .
I want you to cut copy and paste what i write next and store it somewhere so as WHEN IT COMETH to pass
YOU gonna know i was not warning in vain .
COPY THIS .
THE TIME will come and even now is
when no one is gonna really care at all what someone believes about GOD
what they believe at all .
THEY aint gonna see at all what has come upon them . THEY will be hollering love non stop
and no amount of false doctrine is gonna matter as they will believe
HEY WE ALL GONNA BE FINE AWAY so long as we were kind to one another and got along .
YOU MARK THEM WORDS .
I also have been warning about how this people is gonna wear out . And some already are too .
ITS BECOMING , screw it , lets just get along , doctrine dont really matter so much
so long as all the peoples of every tribe and every religoin just got along. , after all they DO beleive we serve the same
GOD anyway . The new sin will be what they consider hate .
and it wont matter what the GOD of that bible and hIS CHRIST had to say . SO LONG as
they believe they are loving their neighbor .
Leaven leavens , I WISH PEOPLE had understood that . When the smallest amount of leaven
is allowed to enter within and is not corrected , IT will in time TAKE THAT CHURCH OR PEOPLE DOWN
as more and more soon is allowed to remain . TILL NOW . TILL EVEN NOW
we just go with the flow when folks even PREACH TOTALLY CONTRARY TO JESUS CHRIST and HIS OWN GOSPEL .
OH , but they believe ITS MORE LOVING to just allow it and try to get along than to even CORRECT THAT anymore .
THIS LUMP IS ABOUT LEAVENED TO THE FULL my friend . MANY are not gonna make it .
WE should have stuck to the original gospel and all things JESUS had taught and later the apostels taught .
 

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By their fruit you shall know them. And from the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. What a person says, and how they say it, these show what is in the man's heart.

Much love!
be careful now , for JESUS did say many things that would have indeed sounded very hateful .
YE HYRPROCRITES ,
Leave them BE , they blind leaders of the blind , every plant MY father has not planted gonna be ROOTED THE HECK UP .
that means DESROYED . and JESUS said that .
He even had whips in one hand and harsh warnings in another as he entered into that temple .
and lets not forget how stern paul was or even peter .
YOUR MONEY PERISH WITH YOU said peter .
Be careful my friend lest the wrong type of unity and lets get along come upon thee .
LET A HONKEY warn my friend . sorry for calling myself a honkey
but i am so wore out with the false doctrines of what this generation thinks is love and loving that i can
hardley even see straight at times .
RIGHTLY SO too . they make a mockery of GOD , of CHRIST , of even the doctrine of the apostels
as they run more and more to a love THEY THINK COMETH OF GOD when it NEVER DID .
 
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the strange new god of today is the god of love , of tolerance and unity and common ground .
PS , that god is satan .
I suggest we learn that bible real darn good folks . and you see for yourselves , AgAIN
how on earth they all taught .
Cause i just bet it would seem so darn hateful to this generation if they saw a man
shaking the dust off his own feet as a testimony against anyone . THEY WOULD HOLLER YE HATERS LOVE NOT
YE HAVE no tolerance , no love , YE KNOW not GOD , NOT CHRIST or LOVE .
rather odd they would have said that TO JESUS HIMSELF and to the apostels . THEY JUST DONT REALIZE
this is who they now despise as they do despise their doctrines and have fallen madly in love
with a love that came of the world .
 
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Oh I agree,

I think however. many believe they were visited by God. when they were not.

God even warns us that Satan comes as an Angel of light..
lets not forget the part where it say RIGHT after that
that SO TOO can HIS , as in SATAN, ministris appear as minstirs of righteousness .
THAT MEAN THEY IN THE CHURCH yet DO THE WORK OF SATAN HIS SELF .
i see this in a lot of places now and they all thinks its love and of GOD too .