About the "Holy Rosary" prayer

[Karl Peters]

I am not pointing anyone to me. Where do you even get this? You have so many words and honestly I am bored reading it and have no interest to even hear your thoughts. I know scripture and He has opened my heart, eyes and ears. HE has, He does, and He will!

Tolerance of false teachings will be punished.

OH YES YOU ARE!

In fact we all do that! It is something we need to realize about ourselves so that we can point people to Jesus Christ, and the most important person we all know who needs to be pointed to Jesus Christ is ourselves!!! Therefore it is written:

Heb 3:13 But encourage one another day after day, as long as it is still called “Today,” so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin.

Or maybe you did have Understanding with you when you read that?

"Today" is the day we all need to hear from Jesus Christ! And so "Today" is the day we need to remind each other to hear from Him, but if a person takes that reminder as an offense instead of encouragement, is it not because they have the problem of not wanting to hear from Him?

Ex 20:19 Then they said to Moses, “Speak to us yourself and we will listen; but let not God speak to us, or we will die.”

Moses wanted to hear from God so he took God's chosen people to the mountain of God to hear from God, but they said in their hearts, and so it came out their mouths -"let not God speak to us". Until we realize that is how we are and it is wrong, then we are not going to seek the Lord ourselves! And if we ourselves are not wanting to hear from God, then we are not going to be telling others to seek Him and His voice, are we?

And look what you, the person who says to themselves "I am not pointing anyone to me", writes: "Tolerance of false teachings will be punished."

Did not Jesus go to the cross and make himself the sacrifice? So who is the false teacher?

The fact is that the Lord Jesus Christ wants His people to just start listening to Him!! If they would just do that then He could start teaching them! And who then can find Him? The correct answer is that anyone can find Him!

But what about a sinner? Can a sinner find Him if they seek Him?

Yes they can, In fact it is sinners that He is out to save and talk to!

Ok - but what about a person using the evil beads according to the Catholic church? Surely that person will not find Him if they seek Him?

Mat 7:7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.

Even the person using those beads you think of as so evil will find Him if they truly seek Him!

Ok - but what about a murder!!! That sin must be worse than having those dreadful beads in your hands, isn't it?

Gen 4:8,9 Cain told Abel his brother. And it came about when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and killed him. Then the LORD said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” And he said, “I do not know. Am I my brother's keeper?”

Oh - so even that murder Cain was 'able' to talk to the Lord by faith though he had just murdered his brother!!!

Indeed, did not the Lord ever give you the teaching He calls, 'Moses the murdered'? He gave that teaching to me personally. In a nutshell God explains it like this, "I can use someone who didn't listen to Me, but I can't use someone who won't listen to Me!"

Do you still not get it - "the message that we all need to listen to Him?"

Where is it written that a person cannot have beads in their hands when they seek the Lord and what He has to say to them?

The problem you think you are discussing is idolatry, but the idol people mainly put before God is themselves!! That is to say that we want to put our thinking before Gods thinking, which is why we don't hear Him!! And so the single thing that a person needs to do before they hear from the Lord is "Repent - of their ways"!!!

It is actually extremely easy to repent. It involves nothing more that just telling yourself that you need to listen to Him because your thinking is not all that good! Indeed you don't even have to think much about it, because even you seeking Him for answers meant you already repented (realized that your ways did not get it done) if you do ever actually seek Him.

If you really understood this you would understand that even Cain had already repented inside or he would not have heard the Lord speaking to him after he killed his brother. So if you really understood this you would already have realized the false teaching you yourself are giving!

And let me just give you the "GOOD NEWS"!!

REv 3:19,20 ‘Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.
‘Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.

So perhaps we take a quick multiply choice test on the above? Who will the Lord come in to and dine with if they open up to Him?

A. Anyone
B Anyone but those using prayer beads
C Anyone but a sinner
D Anyone but a false teacher
E Anyone but a murderer

The correct answer is that He will talk to "Anyone" if they open up to Him. And if they sincerely opened up to Him then they repented of their ways and so are wanted to hear about His ways!

Of course if a person is still thinking otherwise - like He won't talk to someone using prayer beads like those bad Catholics, that person has not yet repented of their ways and sought after Him. Maybe once in the past they did, but as for now they are listening to a 'religious spirit', aren't they?


BTW - I have tolerance for a false teacher like those people listening to a religious spirit but they don't know it.

 

[Freedm]

This is the most powerful Christian prayer that will connect you to the light

Says who?

 

[Karl Peters]

A religious spirit is an evil spirit that makes it about the things of God instead of making it about God.

So anytime you are looking to the things of God instead of looking to Jesus Christ, the Word of God who is God - the Son, so that you hear from Him, then you are starting to be influenced by an evil spirit that is trying to take us into religion instead of a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

Now none of that means we don't need to read our Bible, but it means that we do need to talk to our Teacher, who is Jesus Christ, for understanding about what we read in the Bible. And none of that means you can't have some tradition that helps you remember to seek Jesus Christ and what He has to say to you as your Lord and God! So the traditions and customs are not the problem - so long as they are not evil in some way.

I have my tradition. I get up in the morning, go and sat in my favorite chair, and pray the Lord's prayer with some additional things, like praying for our leaders, for peace in Jerusalem, and all those He has given me. I like my tradition and even feel it matches up with our sacred writings pretty well. Yet even all that is not what is important!!! What is important is what I do after the Lord's prayer with the additions. And that is that I seek the voice of the Lord to find out what He wants, what teachings He has for me, and anything else He would like to say.

Sometime He asks me to post on this Christian forum. Sometimes He asks me to take a walk with Him. Sometimes He has me just get to working on the business He has given me to pay the bills. And think I can even pigeon hole in to just that. He might ask me to go to the store, or take my wife on a drive. He has had me then go out and mow the lawn. So the thing to know is that He gives teachings and instructions, and that is the reason I call Him Lord. And not only that, but He often sends His angels to minister to me and work with me during the day.

So if I get on this site and someone writes that you have to follow the Bible, why do they not know that they have to follow Him who speaks the words of God - Jesus Christ. And if someone write that nobody can have prayer beads and seek the Lord with another prayer and still seek Him, how did they come up to that false conclusion? Is if not because they don't seek Him themselves, or if they do they don't do it often.

In heaven, there are going to be people from every nation, and don't we realize that nations have different customs and traditions?

Now someone is going to write something like 'well they find the devil', but is that their judgement? If so is it not written that as you judge so shall you be judged!! Some of the judges in the USA need to think about this, because even if they don't seek Jesus Christ before making a judgment it is all going to come back to judge them.

As for me, I tend to judge that we, even His people, don't seek Him and listen to Him like we should. And so other know, I make that judgement because I see that in me personally. I ONLY hear from Him about a dozen different times during the day. So I want to hear Him more, but have trouble doing it. I get busy and such.

Still, it is not hard to see as other "Christians" that have that issue even more than me. One pastor I meet told me he had only heard the small voice of the Lord 3 times in his life. Another pastor told me that he had not hear the voice of the Lord for many many years, but every Sunday he gave a message, supposedly from the Lord. How does he have a message to give a message since by his own confession he has not heard the voice of the Lord for well over a decade?

My hearing the voice of the Lord ONLY a dozen times a day is kind of embarrassing to me. Yet with that little bit of hearing I have had Him working with Him in soooo many Christian ministries, and I hear Him tell me, "Karl, I love you." quite often. I have seen Him heal people after telling me to minister to them and pray for them so many times I can't count - probably like a thousand times in the last 20 plus years with Him. And I could go on and on and on with all the great testimonies, teachings, and sayings He has given me. A life of faith in Him means hearing from God mean you get great teachings, instructions, and things happen. Even ONLY hearing from Him a dozen times a day results in that.

Do you not know that angels tell you that they know where they stand with God, and my friends you too can get and idea where you stand with God if you start actually seeking Him everyday called Today. Even if you too can ONLY get yourself to seek His voice a dozen different times a day. Hopefully you will be better and hearing Him than me. There are Christian out there like that. Surely, not enough to my thinking. So if anyone wants more from God try listening to Him more. Even with my poor effort I have been kissed by a greenish colored cloud, been taken out of my body so I was looking at the back of my head, had Him cause light rain fall on me 3 times on hot cloudless days, seen legs grow out in front of me, and thousands of more miracles. But it is not about any of that either; it is about walking and talking via the personal relationship you have with the Lord our God Jesus Christ. You will find that the small things are often the best things when you get to know Him, and He is always doing things, because He is the living and active Word of God!

 

[Karl Peters]

Says who?

Perfect response if you have understanding.

The answer needs to be the Lord says, but is that the answer people have?

So a good pray is something like:

Job 42:4 ‘Hear, now, and I will speak;
I will ask You, and You instruct me.’

I mean - once a person really starts hearing from God does it not become clear to you like it did to Job, that the best thing to do is to ask Him to instruct you and then listen!

So it is important to have the correct answer to "Says who?", and "Who needs to be listening."