Trump ~ guilty

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Because this all happened years ago but prosecution has been delayed until the middle of the election cycle, it certainly looks political. Frankly, it's something I'd expect would happen in some buffer-state or banana-republic.
Alvin Bragg campaigned for his office on the election promise to convict President Trump. Promise made, promise kept, in what was clearly a "managed outcome", exactly like in East Germany and the Soviet Union.

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It was LEGAL -- but not RIGHT -- to prosecute Trump?
The answer to that isn't really clear to me, and there might be more than one answer, given the multiplicity of charges. I'm not in the know.

But appearances count for something, and here the appearance is that this is largely political. The timing is suspect. The number of charges seems excessive. Is it normal for someone to be charged with 30+ different things? Is it normal for someone to be charged with these crimes at all? My experience of it is that virtually ALL politicians cheat at the financial end of things, and it seems few of them are ever charged with anything.

That assumes pure political motivation on the side of the New York DA.
I didn't spend 2 seconds trying to examine the motivations of the DA. Now that you've broached the subject, I'd reckon they're (a) prestige and (b) money... both of which seem available here.

But what about political motivation on the side of Trump, who is guilty of mischaracterizing payments in order to hide what he'd done from the 2016 electorate? There's plenty of stink on both ends of the stick.
I'm not sure it makes sense to talk about Trump's motivations with regard to his being prosecuted. That seems out of his control, and certainly not something that one would choose for themself.

As to delaying prosecution, Trump has been the master at that.
Seems normal for a person to delay their own prosecution. Less normal for the one doing the prosecuting.

I kind of hate that you've got me defending Trump, though. I don't like him. I didn't vote for him last time, and I don't plan to vote for him this time.

I am however concerned about the courts being used for political maneuvering. That's something I expect to see in Central America, not the U.S.
 

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Alvin Bragg campaigned for his office on the election promise to convict President Trump. Promise made, promise kept, in what was clearly a "managed outcome", exactly like in East Germany and the Soviet Union.

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These neo-communists having tasted power and control will not give it up without a real national fight.
 

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Reading some of the posts on this thread I can't help but think that the American justice system must be very flawed.
It is very flawed with a capital "F" Pearl. The arrogance and power these godless folk wield and exhibit so openly, and acquired over the last few decades, through steal and deception, seems to have only just begun in this country. It is a time for prayer, indeed.
 
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It is very flawed with a capital "F" Pearl. The arrogance and power these godless folk wield and exhibit so openly, and acquired over the last few decades, through steal and deception, seems to have only just begun in this country. It is a time for prayer, indeed.
I like to read John Grisham so I've known for a long time that it has lots of flaws.
Why was DT allowed to get away with contempt of court on a daily basis? Disrespectful behaviour all through.

This book shows both the flawed legal system and flawed political system.

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And this is why True Christians should not be involved in politics, Jesus said, His Kingdom was no part of this world. The True Church is IN the World, not OF the world.
He told us God seats those in authority over us. How that comes to be in a Democratic electoral system is through the votes of the people.

In a Monarchy the king or queen are regarded as God's choice,appointment, of that sovereign anointed king or queen.

If we abandon or deny our responsibility to vote in a fair Democracy and instead go with the idea God seats our leaders,we have no argument to sustain that point of view when people's election of their leaders is what seats their leaders.

If we argue leadership gets there through God,without recognizing how that occurs,and we've argued we are to be in the world not of the world,we are forgetting while in the world we have to live with what is politically empowered to make the rules for our secular life. And also,in abandoning our voter responsibility,when that leadership goes awry and we complain and criticize it, we're then implicating God's choice of those leaders and their conduct.
 
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Because this all happened years ago but prosecution has been delayed until the middle of the election cycle, it certainly looks political.
Before Trump, good folks like @RedFan used to hold themselves to the standard of “avoiding the appearance of impropriety.”

Now, the power hungry goons say “prove it” - as if they are the accused and the burden of proof is not on them.
 
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He told us God sears those in authority over us. How that comes to be in a Democratic electoral system is through the votes of the people.

In a Monarchy the king or queen are regarded as God's choice,appointment, of that sovereign anointed king or queen.
All true, and then however, we are to be vigilant, knowledgeable and not ignorant of what is going on in this decaying world either. As it may affect your family and loved ones, dramatically.

No, we are not to close our eyes to it all. And participation at what level is another can of worms indeed. I would personally pray about these things.... as we do not know our part we must play or not in these affairs either...it is a fluid and dynamic world of human affairs indeed.
 
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He told us God sears those in authority over us. How that comes to be in a Democratic electoral system is through the votes of the people.

In a Monarchy the king or queen are regarded as God's choice,appointment, of that sovereign anointed king or queen.
What will be will be
Upon those who have rejected the one true GOD by rejecting the one true Christ
their hearts will be moved to go with the flow that brings great destruction upon them .
Whether it be kings or presidents .
The pharoah was used to destroy even eygpt . Yes .
His heart was a hard one , this pharoah was not a man that knew JOSEPH or HIS GOD .
And one might ask , BUT HOW DID PHAROAH HIMSELF destroy EYGPT .
BY OPPOSING GOD . thats how .
GOD has determined a strong delusoin upon those who rejected the love o the truth .
Many reject the JESUS OF THAT BIBLE . oh boy do they .
Many will only accept a jesus and a god that panders to things which please them . OH BOY THEY DO .
A strong delusoin has been given unto the peoples and tribes of all religoins , even christendom its very self .
And all the hopes they hoped in , all the love they desired and embraced
all the diversity and promises of peace n safety they so desire
SHALL USHER IN ONLY SUDDEN DESTRUCTION upon them all .
They will die believing they had served the GOD , many will die believing they served Even HIS CHRIST
BUT IT WAS NEVER GOD they served or loved , it was never THE TRUE JESUS CHRIST
they loved or served , IT WAS A DELUSION false love that had created ONLY an image of what THEY THOUGHT
and HOW THEY LOVED THIS IMAGE , OF what they thought was GOD and what many even within christendom
believed as JESUS . BUT IT WAS THE DEVIL . A delusion has been birthed
and it will cause the kings of this world and its peoples and its religoins
to all merge under a LIE that will bring down FIERY DESTRUCTION upon them all .
Only the true lambs WHO DID NOT CONFORM who had NO HOPE IN MEN
WILL see , having eyes to see and ears to hear and in the bible they did feed
THEY did not and will not conform to the lie that shall END THIS ENTIRE WORLD .
 
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Bye bye democracy

It might be bye bye Democracy, but that's good news, lol. Hello Republic of the People.

The Hebrews in Egypt under Pharoh were never under as much bondage as Americans are now. And God parted the Red Sea for them! He'll do something for us too.

But remember, don't put your faith in Trump, put your faith in God.
 

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Right. Trump supposedly covered up records of payments to Stormy Daniels in 2017 to effect the 2016 election? I guess the New York AG believes in time travel. :)
:Laughingoutloud::Laughingoutloud::Laughingoutloud::Laughingoutloud::Laughingoutloud::Laughingoutloud::Laughingoutloud:

That was mentioned by someone awhile back.

I question on how good Todd Blanche is.

The few questions he gave to the witnesses during the trial that FOX put out
did not seem firm or forceful enough to me .

Although prosecution objected to everything they said and the judge sustained every one of them
 

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It was LEGAL -- but not RIGHT -- to prosecute Trump? That assumes pure political motivation on the side of the New York DA. But what about political motivation on the side of Trump, who is guilty of mischaracterizing payments in order to hide what he'd done from the 2016 electorate? There's plenty of stink on both ends of the stick.

As to delaying prosecution, Trump has been the master at that.
Remember... Just like Fani Willis Alvin Bragg campaigned on "getting Trump" as did Letitia James.

When he had turned the case down before...
 
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We definitely need to fight the corruption!!

“But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.” (Acts 5:39, KJV)

It seems God’s will is being fulfilled by the actions of the liberal left.

To many inches have been surrendered to the wicked over the years (both in the world and in the church) and now they are coming to take the whole portion that’s left over.

Be ready!

It’s the last days.

Everything from Isaiah to Malachi is being played out all over again; this time in the United States of America.
 
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It might be bye bye Democracy, but that's good news, lol. Hello Republic of the People.

The Hebrews in Egypt under Pharoh were never under as much bondage as Americans are now. And God parted the Red Sea for them! He'll do something for us too.

But remember, don't put your faith in Trump, put your faith in God.
Yes, God will keep me alive as I skip some medication from time to time.

I am just waiting for the cutback on food to allow the cut back on the waistline. :Laughingoutloud:
 

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An “appearance” of LEGAL, does not mean LEGAL.

LEGAL is a STANDARD of Fixed Objectives within the FIXED parameter.

The Supreme Law of the Land (USA)…is the US Constitution…
Not laws written that exceeds …
Not the US House of Reps/Congress/Senate
Not Appointed Supreme Court Justices…
Not Appointed US Federal Judges…
Not Elected State Judges..
Not A President…
Not A Governor…

The institution of the “JUDICIAL SYSTEM”, is “staffed” WITH SERVANTS “OF” the People.

In a TRIAL, it is the JUDGES “job” to keep “order”, behaviors “civil” in the courtroom….FROM his BENCH.

In a TRIAL, it is the Prosecutor's “job” through “tricks, lies, implications, persuasions, witnesses, to SWAY a jury”.

In a TRIAL, is is the Defense’s “job” through “tricks, lies, implications, persuasions, witnesses, to SWAY a jury”.

The Jury’s “job” is to FIRST “KNOW” their “job”, (which VERY FEW DO), then “sort through the “presented” COURTROOM proceeding’s INFORMATION (called private Deliberation, outside of the courtroom and from participants IN the courtroom)….and NULLIFY (ie. set aside for consideration)…
… RACE, GENDER, AGE, ETHNICITY, FEELINGS, MOTIVES, CULTURES, OPINIONS, STATUS POSITION, IRRELEVANT PERSONAL BACKGROUND SOB STORIES….and Rather FOCUS ON CLEAR PROVEN FACTS of CREDIBLE WITNESSES.

…CREDIBLE WITNESS?
* Proof OF their Credibility…What they testify is not disprove.
* Proof OF their Credibility…They have NO History of LYING under Oath. They have NO conviction or incarnation of time served FOR conviction of LYING under Oath.

The PROBLEM arises…First when the majority who SERVE on Jury’s, ARE utterly IGNORANT of the Law…AND the stock pile of Unconstitutional LAWS Jammed INTO the 50+ Law books…..
AND FURTHER….their ONLY “deliberating INSTRUCTION” given them is a SMALL one minute DIRECTIVE …. From the Presiding Judge.

What was the CHARGE and What did the Prosecution TRY?

* A whore received a payment? A misdemeanor charge.

* A payment received was through a 3rd party who had “request access” to the private funds of his client, and so negotiated an agreement between himself and the whore, without the knowledge of his client.

* The client, TRUMP, in other banking accounts, regarding Campaign Funds, WAS NOT the personal account to which his personal Attorney had “request access” for personal services rendered to his personal client TRUMP.

* HOW WAS it PROVED, Cohen was PAID funds out of TRUMPS CAMPAIGN FUNDS ACCOUNT….(making the CHARGE a “felony” rather than a “misdemeanor” ?)

It would have been the Book-keeping EVIDENCE…which doesn’t exist.
* PROOF…? Hearsay Accusations!

Kangaroo Court…at it’s finest hour.
Disgusting…And per precedents ….
The SAME can happen to ANYONE.