amigo de christo
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pop quiz , what makes you think this last generation scholars , starting early last centuryWell, for myself I use one or two "modern translations" ... usually Nasb95 ( nothing newer)
But my preference that I check against anything modern including the NASB95 is the Peshitta (A " collection of Aramaic manuscripts of the Bible. ") and the Septuagint LXX. ( the later being , for those not aware, is Greek Old Testament dating to 3rd century BC , in Koine Greek
Of the vernacular versions of the Bible, the Old Testament Peshitta is second only to the Greek Septuagint in antiquity, dating from probably the 1st and 2nd centuries CE.
Why is it important...? Aramaic was the most common "shared language" among people of the Near East and Middle East for many centuries. This includes the years immediately before and after the earthly ministry of Jesus. And Jesus spoke Aramaic fluently.
Do you know one of the reasons why the New Testament ws written in Greek?
Simple: When Jesus told the 11 to "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Pop quiz, what were the original languages of Scripture?
Most of us might venture answers such as Greek or Hebrew. After all, maybe we learned a Greek word like logos and how it applied to John 1, or we saw someone get a Hebrew word from the Bible as a tattoo.
But many of us forget about a third language in which the writers penned Scripture: Aramaic.
For instance, we find portions of Ezra and Daniel containing Aramaic, the language of the common people. Back during the time of Jesus, the Jews would have spoken multiple languages from Hebrew, Aramaic, and the lingua franca at the time (most likely Greek).
Now, what does this have to do with the title “Peshitta”?
Peshitta is a “collection of Aramaic manuscripts of the Bible.” Many Syriac churches will use this version of the Bible as their primary text.
This seems innocuous enough, but this manuscript has drawn a great deal of controversy. We’ll dive into some of those controversies here, discuss the original language of the New Testament, and touch on why this matters to us today.
The Peshitta Controversies
As mentioned above, this manuscript has drawn a number of controversies. First, and primary, those who use this version of the Bible as their primary text often adhere to something known as “Aramaic Primacy.”
Those who assert this position believe that the New Testament writers didn’t write the manuscripts in Greek but rather Aramaic.
We know, from the language of the Aramaic used in these manuscripts, that certain dialects used in the Peshitta manuscript existed centuries after Jesus’ time. Therefore, scholars overwhelmingly believe the New Testament writers penned the latter half of the Bible in Greek.
Check out some examples here about the differences in dialect and language of the Aramaic throughout the centuries.
The Peshitta manuscript also runs into another controversy through its connections with someone known as George Lamsa, who believed in the Nestorian heresy. This heresy believed Jesus existed as two persons rather than one person with two natures.
Lamsa, who aligns with Nestorian views, asserted the idea of the New Testament being originally written in Aramaic.
We do, however, have to venture into precarious territory here and avoid committing ad hominem fallacies. Simply because someone has faulty views on the incarnation of Christ does not necessarily mean they have erroneous conclusions on other spiritual matters. But it does mean we should exercise discernment if they do commit a heresy.
Why Did They Write the New Testament in Greek?
We do know that the writers of the New Testament most likely spoke the every-day language of Aramaic. So why doesn’t this draw the conclusion that they wrote in the lingua franca of Jews?
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To answer this, we have to look at the motive of New Testament writers. Jesus ministered to the Jews, but they received the Great Commission (Matthew 28:16-20) to spread the gospel to the ends of the earth.
Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
This meant reaching the Gentiles.
To do so, they needed to write in a language used by most of the known world. Thanks to Hellenization, that meant Greek. (For those who do not know what that is.. Wiki, to the rescue.. LOL...Hellenization or Hellenism is the adoption of Greek culture, religion, language, and identity by non-Greeks. In the ancient period, colonisation often led to the Hellenisation of indigenous peoples; in the Hellenistic period, many of the territories which were conquered by Alexander the Great were Hellenised)
I simply feel that the older any transcript is to the time that Jesus walked the earth or to that of Genesis the better as there is less likelihood of things getting all mixed up.
actually did not have an agenda . I dont believe for a second
that all of a sudden they found OLDER STUFF. you might wanna do some digging my friend .
The library has real books and much research can be done . I would not just take
google and others at their word . If , if you will do as i did , IT will PROVE THEM WRONG . not me my dear sister .
but its not about me , its not about me having to be right . ITS ABOUT THE TRUTH . they are lying to you all .
they purposefully came up with crap and so many now buy into it .
The kjv , geneva , wycliff , tyndale . THEY WERE correct . Hort just like prescott
and others even before them were the ones that were off .
POP quiz . what makes you THINK the men of this last generation ALL OF A SUDDEN
got it right , by some kind of miracle an older transalation was found
and even IF it was , what makes YOU THINK it was right . You need to do You some real research .
I did . with anything i never just took the word of man , i investigated for MYSELF .
YOu need to do the same thing . and taking these scholars at their word
IS NOT learning FOR YOURSELF . They duped us sister . they did . this was an agenda .
and this agenda keeps getting worse too .
Textus this or textus that . men . all it is cometh of men .
These great and mighty scholars that came to the rescue of the old translations
WERE PHONIES SISTER . Frauds . and that is a fact .
now i aint saying if someone reads a newer version it condmens them to hell
but i am saying IF YOU WANT THE BEST , OPEN UP THE OLD SISTER . OPEN UP THE OLD . .
