More : About The LAW

[Behold]

Reader,

How the Law defines you, vs, How It can't anymore.

So, understand..... that if you are not born again, then all your sin is unresolved and you'll die in it, including the main one.. as that is to have died never born again, as a Christ rejector.. and Hell is waiting for those, and some died and found that out in the last 30 seconds.
So, ALL of that, is to be "under the law" and under God's wrath, which is eternal = John 3:36

whereas......

If you are born again, then you are "Not under the law, but UNDER GRACE" and you can never again be defined by the Law or Commandments as a sinner.

This is why the NEW Covenant, defines the born again as a SAINT, and an Heir of God, and a Son/Daughter of God.

Now...Notice this verse.

"Where there is NO LAW.... there is no Transgression"...

What does that mean?

It means that """""""Christ is the END.. OF.. .THE.. LAW.. for righteousness, to/for everyone who BELIEVES"""""

It means...""""""Christ has redeemed (the born again) from the CURSE OF THE LAW"""""

"""""The curse of the law""""" is that it's dominion defines sin as sin...... and you as a sinner, until ....

= """""(The born again) are not under the Law......but under Grace"""".


The born again are "made righteous"... and that also means that you are "not under the Law, but under GRACE" ... because.... Christ has become all your sin, and you have become "the Righteousness of God in Christ" = as a "new Creation "In Christ".... "One with God"""...

= And there is no sin found there because the Law is not found there, that can define you ever again as a SINNER.

There is no "law of Moses or 10 commandments" found ""IN CHRIST"", and every born again Believer is "In Christ".



Notice again..Reader,

"where there is NO LAW.... there is NO TRANSGRESSION">..

The born again, are """"""not under the LAW, but under GRACE."""""

"The Law came by MOSES... but GRACE AND TRUTH, came By JESUS The Christ".

The LAW is made for unbelievers, and initially for OT JEWS..... and its penultimate reason for existing is to show us all that we """ALL have SINNED""" and we need to go to The Cross of Christ and find God's GRACE, that is our sanctification, our righteousness, and our eternal life.

Welcome To : SALVATiON

Its a "Gift".

 

[Soyeong]

Reader,

How the Law defines you, vs, How It can't anymore.

So, understand..... that if you are not born again, then all your sin is unresolved and you'll die in it, including the main one.. as that is to have died never born again, as a Christ rejector.. and Hell is waiting for those, and some died and found that out in the last 30 seconds.
So, ALL of that, is to be "under the law" and under God's wrath, which is eternal = John 3:36

whereas......

If you are born again, then you are "Not under the law, but UNDER GRACE" and you can never again be defined by the Law or Commandments as a sinner.

This is why the NEW Covenant, defines the born again as a SAINT, and an Heir of God, and a Son/Daughter of God.

Now...Notice this verse.

"Where there is NO LAW.... there is no Transgression"...

What does that mean?

It means that """""""Christ is the END.. OF.. .THE.. LAW.. for righteousness, to/for everyone who BELIEVES"""""

It means...""""""Christ has redeemed (the born again) from the CURSE OF THE LAW"""""

"""""The curse of the law""""" is that it's dominion defines sin as sin...... and you as a sinner, until ....

= """""(The born again) are not under the Law......but under Grace"""".


The born again are "made righteous"... and that also means that you are "not under the Law, but under GRACE" ... because.... Christ has become all your sin, and you have become "the Righteousness of God in Christ" = as a "new Creation "In Christ".... "One with God"""...

= And there is no sin found there because the Law is not found there, that can define you ever again as a SINNER.

There is no "law of Moses or 10 commandments" found ""IN CHRIST"", and every born again Believer is "In Christ".



Notice again..Reader,

"where there is NO LAW.... there is NO TRANSGRESSION">..

The born again, are """"""not under the LAW, but under GRACE."""""

"The Law came by MOSES... but GRACE AND TRUTH, came By JESUS The Christ".

The LAW is made for unbelievers, and initially for OT JEWS..... and its penultimate reason for existing is to show us all that we """ALL have SINNED""" and we need to go to The Cross of Christ and find God's GRACE, that is our sanctification, our righteousness, and our eternal life.

Welcome To : SALVATiON

Its a "Gift".

In Romans 6:14-23, Paul was contrasting serving the law of sin with serving the Law of God. The Law of God leads us to do what is holy, righteous, and good (Romans 7:12), so it is the law where holiness, righteousness, and goodness have dominion over us, however, the law of sin stirs up sinful passions in order to bear fruit unto death (Romans 7:5), so it is the law where sin had dominion over us, and in Romans 6:14, the law that we are no longer under is the law where sin had dominion over us, which is describing the law of sin, not the Law of God.

In Romans 6:15, Paul said that being under grace does not mean that we are permitted to sin, and in 1 John 3:4, sin is the transgression of the Law of God, so we are still under it, but are not under the law of sin. In Romans 6:16-23, Paul went on to say that if we present ourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, then we are slaves to the one whom we obey either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness, that we have been set free from sin in order to become slaves of righteousness, that we are to bo longer present ourselves as slaves of impurity, lawlessness, and sin, but are now to present ourselves as slaves to God and to righteousness leading to sanctification, and the goal of sanctification is eternal life in Christ, which is the gift of God.

So obedience to the Law of God is the content of His gift of eternal life, but for some reason it makes sense to interpret this passage rejecting being slaves to righteousness and promoting being slaves to what God has revealed to be sin through His law and as rejecting God's gift of eternal life. Anyone can twist God's word into promoting rebellion against Him if they are determined to do so, but if should not make sense to anyone to do that.

 

[Behold]

In Romans 6:14-23, Paul was contrasting serving the law of sin with serving the Law of God.

Paul teaches that the born again are "no more Servants, but Son's/Daughter's".

Galatians 4.

And the born again have become...

""Heirs of God."
""Joint Heirs with Christ.""

So, the servant of God is the OT, and the born again SON and Daughter of God, is the NT.

IN the OT, being a servant was under the burden of the Law.
IN the NT being a SON/Daughter of God, born again... is "through Christ" as "not under the Law but Under Grace".

Your CULT does not know anything about this @Soyeong, and that is why all you can talk about is Law, Sin, and Commandments, and probably water baptism, if you take a day off from the LAW.

You are the OT OLD covenant "under the Law" Legalist... who is pretending you understand the Cross of Christ and the Redemption that is offered by the finished work of Christ as "The Gift of Salvation", that is to become "made Righteous".

You do not own any of this as your Faith or Theology.

You know nothing about this, because you are trying to Keep Moses LAW, to go to heaven, and all who believe that will end up in Hell with that Theology sending you there, as it can't send you to heaven.

Listen,
We are not born again as NT NEW Covenant "Saints', so that we can go back under the law of Moses, to try to keep it, as you believe and teach on a few forums.

So, "now is the day of Salvation" and what that means is... NOW is the time to set down the LAW and the Commandments and self righteousness, and REPENT.....of all this...., and turn to the Son of God for your Salvation.

And when this happens, a person who is always shouting about the law and ranting about the commandments will be found instead giving praise to the HOLY Son who is become = Their Salvation and Eternal Life.

Serve the Law........ or...... Spiritually Join the Son of God and receive "the Gift of Eternal Life"

One sends you to hell and one places you "in Christ" "Seated in Heavenly places" today and forever.

You get to choose, and God WILL honor your choice once Hebrews 9:27 finds you.

 

[Bob Estey]

Reader,

How the Law defines you, vs, How It can't anymore.

So, understand..... that if you are not born again, then all your sin is unresolved and you'll die in it, including the main one.. as that is to have died never born again, as a Christ rejector.. and Hell is waiting for those, and some died and found that out in the last 30 seconds.
So, ALL of that, is to be "under the law" and under God's wrath, which is eternal = John 3:36

whereas......

If you are born again, then you are "Not under the law, but UNDER GRACE" and you can never again be defined by the Law or Commandments as a sinner.

This is why the NEW Covenant, defines the born again as a SAINT, and an Heir of God, and a Son/Daughter of God.

Now...Notice this verse.

"Where there is NO LAW.... there is no Transgression"...

What does that mean?

It means that """""""Christ is the END.. OF.. .THE.. LAW.. for righteousness, to/for everyone who BELIEVES"""""

It means...""""""Christ has redeemed (the born again) from the CURSE OF THE LAW"""""

"""""The curse of the law""""" is that it's dominion defines sin as sin...... and you as a sinner, until ....

= """""(The born again) are not under the Law......but under Grace"""".


The born again are "made righteous"... and that also means that you are "not under the Law, but under GRACE" ... because.... Christ has become all your sin, and you have become "the Righteousness of God in Christ" = as a "new Creation "In Christ".... "One with God"""...

= And there is no sin found there because the Law is not found there, that can define you ever again as a SINNER.

There is no "law of Moses or 10 commandments" found ""IN CHRIST"", and every born again Believer is "In Christ".



Notice again..Reader,

"where there is NO LAW.... there is NO TRANSGRESSION">..

The born again, are """"""not under the LAW, but under GRACE."""""

"The Law came by MOSES... but GRACE AND TRUTH, came By JESUS The Christ".

The LAW is made for unbelievers, and initially for OT JEWS..... and its penultimate reason for existing is to show us all that we """ALL have SINNED""" and we need to go to The Cross of Christ and find God's GRACE, that is our sanctification, our righteousness, and our eternal life.

Welcome To : SALVATiON

Its a "Gift".

The purpose of the law is to keep us out of trouble. For example, if I rob a bank, I go to prison. Therefore, the law tells me not to steal.

 

[Behold]

The purpose of the law is to keep us out of trouble. For example, if I rob a bank, I go to prison. Therefore, the law tells me not to steal.

That is a secondary purpose of the law. @Bob Estey
How do you know?
Its because an unbeliever can keep the law and stay out of Jail, but that does not get them into heaven when they die.
So, if you kept the law all your life and died and went to hell like a bullet, then the law's #1 reason to exist, didnt help you.

So, the Main purpose of the law, is to show you that you have sinned ,and need to be forgiven, so that you can go to Heaven.

The law is our Schoolmaster, its our teacher that defines us as a sinner.. and that allows us to understand the main purpose of the Law.
As by the law revealing us as a SINNER, as its main purpose, we then can go to the Cross of Christ and find our eternal forgiveness through Christ's "one time eternal sacrifice for our sin"... on The Cross.

 

[Bob Estey]

That is a secondary purpose of the law. @Bob Estey
How do you know?
Its because an unbeliever can keep the law and stay out of Jail, but that does not get them into heaven when they die.
So, if you kept the law all your life and died and went to hell like a bullet, then the law's #1 reason to exist, didnt help you.

So, the Main purpose of the law, is to show you that you have sinned ,and need to be forgiven, so that you can go to Heaven.

The law is our Schoolmaster, its our teacher that defines us as a sinner.. and that allows us to understand the main purpose of the Law.
As by the law revealing us as a SINNER, as its main purpose, we then can go to the Cross of Christ and find our eternal forgiveness through Christ's "one time eternal sacrifice for our sin"... on The Cross.

Secondary or not, I don't want to spend my next 25 years in prison.

 

[Behold]

Secondary or not, I don't want to spend my next 25 years in prison.

Yes.
No need to find a way to go to prison.

I personally dont want to spend the rest of my day not having any chocolate.

-blessings.

 

[Bob Estey]

Yes.
No need to find a way to go to prison.

I personally dont want to spend the rest of my day not having any chocolate.

-blessings.

I gave up caffeine, so I had to give up chocolate.

 

[Hobie]

Reader,

How the Law defines you, vs, How It can't anymore.

So, understand..... that if you are not born again, then all your sin is unresolved and you'll die in it, including the main one.. as that is to have died never born again, as a Christ rejector.. and Hell is waiting for those, and some died and found that out in the last 30 seconds.
So, ALL of that, is to be "under the law" and under God's wrath, which is eternal = John 3:36

whereas......

If you are born again, then you are "Not under the law, but UNDER GRACE" and you can never again be defined by the Law or Commandments as a sinner.

This is why the NEW Covenant, defines the born again as a SAINT, and an Heir of God, and a Son/Daughter of God.

Now...Notice this verse.

"Where there is NO LAW.... there is no Transgression"...

What does that mean?

It means that """""""Christ is the END.. OF.. .THE.. LAW.. for righteousness, to/for everyone who BELIEVES"""""

It means...""""""Christ has redeemed (the born again) from the CURSE OF THE LAW"""""

"""""The curse of the law""""" is that it's dominion defines sin as sin...... and you as a sinner, until ....

= """""(The born again) are not under the Law......but under Grace"""".


The born again are "made righteous"... and that also means that you are "not under the Law, but under GRACE" ... because.... Christ has become all your sin, and you have become "the Righteousness of God in Christ" = as a "new Creation "In Christ".... "One with God"""...

= And there is no sin found there because the Law is not found there, that can define you ever again as a SINNER.

There is no "law of Moses or 10 commandments" found ""IN CHRIST"", and every born again Believer is "In Christ".



Notice again..Reader,

"where there is NO LAW.... there is NO TRANSGRESSION">..

The born again, are """"""not under the LAW, but under GRACE."""""

"The Law came by MOSES... but GRACE AND TRUTH, came By JESUS The Christ".

The LAW is made for unbelievers, and initially for OT JEWS..... and its penultimate reason for existing is to show us all that we """ALL have SINNED""" and we need to go to The Cross of Christ and find God's GRACE, that is our sanctification, our righteousness, and our eternal life.

Welcome To : SALVATiON

Its a "Gift".

The problem is every one claims they are born again, and yet continue under the bondage of sin.

 

[Behold]

The problem is every one claims they are born again, and yet continue under the bondage of sin.

If the born again believer is under bondage to sin then they are not understanding who they have become "in Christ".

 

[Brakelite]

Reader,

How the Law defines you, vs, How It can't anymore.

So, understand..... that if you are not born again, then all your sin is unresolved and you'll die in it, including the main one.. as that is to have died never born again, as a Christ rejector.. and Hell is waiting for those, and some died and found that out in the last 30 seconds.
So, ALL of that, is to be "under the law" and under God's wrath, which is eternal = John 3:36

whereas......

If you are born again, then you are "Not under the law, but UNDER GRACE" and you can never again be defined by the Law or Commandments as a sinner.

This is why the NEW Covenant, defines the born again as a SAINT, and an Heir of God, and a Son/Daughter of God.

Now...Notice this verse.

"Where there is NO LAW.... there is no Transgression"...

What does that mean?

It means that """""""Christ is the END.. OF.. .THE.. LAW.. for righteousness, to/for everyone who BELIEVES"""""

It means...""""""Christ has redeemed (the born again) from the CURSE OF THE LAW"""""

"""""The curse of the law""""" is that it's dominion defines sin as sin...... and you as a sinner, until ....

= """""(The born again) are not under the Law......but under Grace"""".


The born again are "made righteous"... and that also means that you are "not under the Law, but under GRACE" ... because.... Christ has become all your sin, and you have become "the Righteousness of God in Christ" = as a "new Creation "In Christ".... "One with God"""...

= And there is no sin found there because the Law is not found there, that can define you ever again as a SINNER.

There is no "law of Moses or 10 commandments" found ""IN CHRIST"", and every born again Believer is "In Christ".



Notice again..Reader,

"where there is NO LAW.... there is NO TRANSGRESSION">..

The born again, are """"""not under the LAW, but under GRACE."""""

"The Law came by MOSES... but GRACE AND TRUTH, came By JESUS The Christ".

The LAW is made for unbelievers, and initially for OT JEWS..... and its penultimate reason for existing is to show us all that we """ALL have SINNED""" and we need to go to The Cross of Christ and find God's GRACE, that is our sanctification, our righteousness, and our eternal life.

Welcome To : SALVATiON

Its a "Gift".

Mmmm. Not one word about repentance. All you are offering is a cloak to cover sin.

 

[Behold]

Mmmm. Not one word about repentance. All you are offering is a cloak to cover sin.

Jesus is the Sacrifice that "covers sin", as "without the shedding of Blood there is no forgiveness, remission, atonement".

You can try to "repent your way into heaven"< but you'll never make it.

See THE Cross of Christ as the reason God will accept you, and for no other reason, @Brakelite

John 14:6

 

[AW Bowman]

In Romans 6:14-23, Paul was contrasting serving the law of sin with serving the Law of God. The Law of God leads us to do what is holy, righteous, and good (Romans 7:12), so it is the law where holiness, righteousness, and goodness have dominion over us, however, the law of sin stirs up sinful passions in order to bear fruit unto death (Romans 7:5), so it is the law where sin had dominion over us, and in Romans 6:14, the law that we are no longer under is the law where sin had dominion over us, which is describing the law of sin, not the Law of God.

In Romans 6:15, Paul said that being under grace does not mean that we are permitted to sin, and in 1 John 3:4, sin is the transgression of the Law of God, so we are still under it, but are not under the law of sin. In Romans 6:16-23, Paul went on to say that if we present ourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, then we are slaves to the one whom we obey either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness, that we have been set free from sin in order to become slaves of righteousness, that we are to bo longer present ourselves as slaves of impurity, lawlessness, and sin, but are now to present ourselves as slaves to God and to righteousness leading to sanctification, and the goal of sanctification is eternal life in Christ, which is the gift of God.

So obedience to the Law of God is the content of His gift of eternal life, but for some reason it makes sense to interpret this passage rejecting being slaves to righteousness and promoting being slaves to what God has revealed to be sin through His law and as rejecting God's gift of eternal life. Anyone can twist God's word into promoting rebellion against Him if they are determined to do so, but if should not make sense to anyone to do that.

Excellent. Also see Genesis 26:1-6 with emphases on verse 5.

 

[Brakelite]

Jesus is the Sacrifice that "covers sin", as "without the shedding of Blood there is no forgiveness, remission, atonement".

You can try to "repent your way into heaven"< but you'll never make it.

See THE Cross of Christ as the reason God will accept you, and for no other reason, @Brakelite

John 14:6

KJV Mark 1:14-15
14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

KJV Romans 2:4-10
4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile.

KJV 2 Corinthians 7:10
10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

 

[bro.tan]

Paul said in (Rom. 3:23-25) (v.23) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. (v.24) Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: (v.25) Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God. So the bible tells you to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2 :36-38). And by doing so you come up under his precious blood and then you are saved from your sins that are past, not present or future sins but for sins that are past. Because for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God (Romans 23:3), and if you continue to live you will sin again. It is the willful sinning that you need to put in check. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. (Hebrew 10: 26, 27)

Now Paul talks about the renewing in the mind in Romans 12: And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Making the statement, "since I have been born again. For those who have any knowledge in the word (Holy Scriptures) will understand that this just isn’t the case, because born again is a change in the body not the mind.

Let’s jump right in a conversation that Jesus was having with a man name Nicodemus.

In John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Notice verse 3, except a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. We have just learned something here. If you are not born again you can not see the kingdom of God. As we go further you will understand this. Remember there is a time for everything.

Nicodemus asked a very good question. Take a look at the next set of verses.

John 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

In verse 5, born of the water in this case is the Word of God. Notice the Lord mentions the kingdom of God again, but He adds a little more information. He says "Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. When he mentions spirit He means exactly that. Watch how the Lord gives something physical to describe exactly what He means.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Notice: He made a difference between flesh and spirit. Ask yourself that question, was you born flesh or spirit?

John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Notice: He compared the wind to a spirit. Can you see the wind? No! We have seen things being blown around by the wind, but we have never seen the wind. If you are born of the spirit you are like the wind. This is when you are truly born again, when you are born of the spirit.

Notice: what Jesus does in these next few verses. Remember, this is after His resurrection.

John 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Note two very important things within these verses. 1. Jesus appeared in the midst of them and the doors were shut. 2. Thomas called Him God. When Jesus came out of the grave he was born into the God family, Jesus was Born Again.

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? Or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Note what the verse says, God is not a man, neither is he the son of man. While Jesus walked with His disciples He called Himself the son of man. He was exactly that. He was born of a woman. But, when he was raised from the dead He was no longer in the man family neither was He flesh and blood. If he was flesh and blood He would not have been able to appear in the middle of the room with his apostles.

 

[JBO]

Reader,

How the Law defines you, vs, How It can't anymore.

So, understand..... that if you are not born again, then all your sin is unresolved and you'll die in it, including the main one.. as that is to have died never born again, as a Christ rejector.. and Hell is waiting for those, and some died and found that out in the last 30 seconds.
So, ALL of that, is to be "under the law" and under God's wrath, which is eternal = John 3:36

whereas......

If you are born again, then you are "Not under the law, but UNDER GRACE" and you can never again be defined by the Law or Commandments as a sinner.

This is why the NEW Covenant, defines the born again as a SAINT, and an Heir of God, and a Son/Daughter of God.

Now...Notice this verse.

"Where there is NO LAW.... there is no Transgression"...

What does that mean?

It means that """""""Christ is the END.. OF.. .THE.. LAW.. for righteousness, to/for everyone who BELIEVES"""""

It means...""""""Christ has redeemed (the born again) from the CURSE OF THE LAW"""""

"""""The curse of the law""""" is that it's dominion defines sin as sin...... and you as a sinner, until ....

= """""(The born again) are not under the Law......but under Grace"""".


The born again are "made righteous"... and that also means that you are "not under the Law, but under GRACE" ... because.... Christ has become all your sin, and you have become "the Righteousness of God in Christ" = as a "new Creation "In Christ".... "One with God"""...

= And there is no sin found there because the Law is not found there, that can define you ever again as a SINNER.

There is no "law of Moses or 10 commandments" found ""IN CHRIST"", and every born again Believer is "In Christ".



Notice again..Reader,

"where there is NO LAW.... there is NO TRANSGRESSION">..

The born again, are """"""not under the LAW, but under GRACE."""""

"The Law came by MOSES... but GRACE AND TRUTH, came By JESUS The Christ".

The LAW is made for unbelievers, and initially for OT JEWS..... and its penultimate reason for existing is to show us all that we """ALL have SINNED""" and we need to go to The Cross of Christ and find God's GRACE, that is our sanctification, our righteousness, and our eternal life.

Welcome To : SALVATiON

Its a "Gift".

Where in the Bible to read that you do not have to keep God's law? Where does it say it is okey to steal, to murder, to covet? The law is made for mankind. The born again are not freed from obeying God's law. You cannot love God and disobey His law. It is just that the law is not the determinant of who will gain eternal life. The born again is not freed from obeying God's law; the born again is forgiven for his disobedience. He is not made righteous; rather he is declared righteous.

 

[Soyeong]

Where in the Bible to read that you do not have to keep God's law? Where does it say it is okey to steal, to murder, to covet? The law is made for mankind. The born again are not freed from obeying God's law. You cannot love God and disobey His law. It is just that the law is not the determinant of who will gain eternal life. The born again is not freed from obeying God's law; the born again is forgiven for his disobedience. He is not made righteous; rather he is declared righteous.

While we do not earn eternal life as the result of our obedience to God’s word, Bible is nevertheless abundantly clear that being a doer of God’s word is the determinant of who will have eternal life (Deuteronomy 30:11-20, Deuteronomy 32:46-47, Proverbs 3:18, Proverbs 6:23, Matthew 19:17, Luke 10:25-28, Romans 2:6-13, Romans 6:19-23, Hebrew 5:9, Revelation 22:14). There are also many verses that connect our belief in God’s word made flesh with our obedience to God’s word, such as Revelation 14:12, where those who kept faith in Jesus are the same as those who kept God’s commandments, which is because the way to believe in the one who is the embodiment of God’s is by following his example of embodying God’s word, and which is also why there are many verses like John 3:16 that say that the way to have eternal life is by believing in Jesus.

 

[JBO]

While we do not earn eternal life as the result of our obedience to God’s word, Bible is nevertheless abundantly clear that being a doer of God’s word is the determinant of who will have eternal life (Deuteronomy 30:11-20, Deuteronomy 32:46-47, Proverbs 3:18, Proverbs 6:23, Matthew 19:17, Luke 10:25-28, Romans 2:6-13, Romans 6:19-23, Hebrew 5:9, Revelation 22:14). There are also many verses that connect our belief in God’s word made flesh with our obedience to God’s word, such as Revelation 14:12, where those who kept faith in Jesus are the same as those who kept God’s commandments, which is because the way to believe in the one who is the embodiment of God’s is by following his example of embodying God’s word, and which is also why there are many verses like John 3:16 that say that the way to have eternal life is by believing in Jesus.

I think you are misunderstanding what God is saying. When God says, as He does in Romans 2:6 "He will render to each one according to his works", that will be accomplished independent upon whether or not one has been given the gift of eternal life. Thus such works are not the determinant of who will have eternal life, but rather the "rendering", the rewards, that each will receive for how he has lived this life. Those who receive eternal life will not all be treated the same, nor will all who receive eternal condemnation all be treated the same.

The judgment seat, the bema, of Christ (2 Cor 5:10; Rev 14:10; 20:12) is not the occasion for the judgment of eternal life versus eternal condemnation. That has already been accomplished in the life of each.