CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity

[JBO]

You help me?

How can “ you” help me?

When you haven’t a clue what I’m talking about....telling me I’m some sort of alien with special powers from God..that I talk a foreign language...LOL....the Holy Spirit is our helper...” Not “ you” you are NOTHING without the Holy Spirit?

You are right, I can't help you. And I have some time back quit trying.

But I do know what you are talking about. But you are so terribly wrong.

 

[JBO]

Water baptism does not regenerate a person, it is a symbolic only witness to another person that the person is saved and belongs to God
Yeah, its been disputed a long time

Of course water baptism does not regenerate a person. But nowhere in all of scripture does it ever say that baptism is only a symbolic witness to another person.

It is a symbol of repentance to other people
Christ does the saving when He baptizes with the Spirit, and ALSO baptizes with Fire, as in Acts 2

Matthew 3:11
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Christ does the saving when the believer is baptized in water. According to Acts 2:38 the repentant believer is forgiven his sins and he receives the gift of the Holy Spirit. The receiving of the gift of the Holy Spirit is baptism in/of/with the Holy Spirit.

 

[Ritajanice]

You are right, I can't help you. And I have some time back quit trying.

But I do know what you are talking about. But you are so terribly wrong.

You can’t help me...?

What are you talking about?

You’re so confused that you don’t know that a Born Again is in communication with God via his Holy Spirit?

What is it you called me,.?.looks like you’ll be having words with another member then as he believes the same.

How can you know you are Born Again...without the Spirit testifying with our spirit that we are Gods children?

 

[Scott Downey]

Indeed....I can’t help it if you don’t understand what “ imperishable seed”...so I guess you’re still stuck in it as well...

I think of imperishable seed as meaning we have everlasting life, just as He has.
This tells us we will never perish as we take on the same characteristic of God's eternal life nature, since we born of God of that same nature , meaning born again people cannot lose their salvation

John 10
27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand.

 

[Ritajanice]

I think of imperishable seed as meaning we have everlasting life, just as He has.

Imperishable seed, is Gods “ Living “ word....we’ve been Born Again....of imperishable seed that liveth and abideth forever.

Meaning his Living word is in our spirit when we became Born Again it can never die..because God’s word is Alive in us...his seed is the Holy Spirit .....that’s when we received the seed ...because it was God’s Living word that we received into our heart....that is the new nature in Christ..

We were Born Again in a miraculous way....this is what some unbelievers aren’t understand, because they are still of carnal mind/ understanding....
They are ignorant to that of spiritual matters and think we’re from the looney bin.....hehe....little do they know and all we can do is pray that they come to the Lord as we have.
My opinion.

 

[JBO]

Indeed....I can’t help it if you don’t understand what “ imperishable seed”...so I guess you’re still stuck in it as well...

(ESV)1Pe 1:23 since you have been born again, not of perishable seed but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God;

(NASB)1Pe 1:23 for you have been born again not of seed which is perishable but imperishable, that is, through the living and enduring word of God.

(KJV)1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

From Albert Barnes:

Which liveth and abideth forever - This expression may either refer to God, as living forever, or to the word of God, as being forever true. Critics are about equally divided in the interpretation. The Greek will bear either construction. Most of the recent critics incline to the latter opinion - that it refers to the word of God, or to his doctrine. So Rosenmuller, Doddridge, Bloomfield, Wolf, Macknight, Clarke. It seems to me, however, that the more natural construction of the Greek is to refer it to God, as ever-living or enduring; and this interpretation agrees well with the connection. The idea then is, that as God is ever-living, that which is produced directly by him in the human soul, by the instrumentality of truth, may be expected also to endure forever. It will not be like the offspring of human parents, themselves mortal, liable to early and certain decay, but may be expected to be as enduring as its ever-living Creator.

From John Gill:

by the Word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever; for the incorruptible seed, and the ever living and abiding word, are two distinct things; though interpreters generally confound them: and by "the word of God" is either meant the essential Word, the Lord Jesus Christ; who is concerned in regeneration as well as the Father and the Spirit; by whose resurrection, and in consequence of it, the elect of God are begotten again; and who, as the Word, is able to build up all the sanctified ones, and give them the inheritance they are born heirs unto: or the Gospel, the word of truth, which is made use of as a means of begetting souls again; and the rather, since it seems to be so interpreted, 1Pe_1:25 the phrases, "which liveth and abideth forever", may be either read in connection only with "God", and as descriptive of him, who is the living God, is from everlasting to everlasting, in distinction from idols; and here added, to show that he can give power and efficacy to his word, to regenerate and quicken, and will continue to preserve and make it useful to all his saving purposes; so Jarchi explains the passage in Isa_40:8 after referred to, "the word of our God shall stand for ever",

I could produce more, but I doubt that it would do any good. The point being that there is nothing about being born of incorruptible seed that would give the one born again divine revelation as you seem to think. The incorruptible seed is the description of the one performing the rebirth, the regeneration; it is not the description of the results of the rebirth, the regeneration.

 

[Ritajanice]

(ESV)1Pe 1:23 since you have been born again, not of perishable seed but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God;

(NASB)1Pe 1:23 for you have been born again not of seed which is perishable but imperishable, that is, through the living and enduring word of God.

(KJV)1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

From Albert Barnes:

Which liveth and abideth forever - This expression may either refer to God, as living forever, or to the word of God, as being forever true. Critics are about equally divided in the interpretation. The Greek will bear either construction. Most of the recent critics incline to the latter opinion - that it refers to the word of God, or to his doctrine. So Rosenmuller, Doddridge, Bloomfield, Wolf, Macknight, Clarke. It seems to me, however, that the more natural construction of the Greek is to refer it to God, as ever-living or enduring; and this interpretation agrees well with the connection. The idea then is, that as God is ever-living, that which is produced directly by him in the human soul, by the instrumentality of truth, may be expected also to endure forever. It will not be like the offspring of human parents, themselves mortal, liable to early and certain decay, but may be expected to be as enduring as its ever-living Creator.

From John Gill:

by the Word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever; for the incorruptible seed, and the ever living and abiding word, are two distinct things; though interpreters generally confound them: and by "the word of God" is either meant the essential Word, the Lord Jesus Christ; who is concerned in regeneration as well as the Father and the Spirit; by whose resurrection, and in consequence of it, the elect of God are begotten again; and who, as the Word, is able to build up all the sanctified ones, and give them the inheritance they are born heirs unto: or the Gospel, the word of truth, which is made use of as a means of begetting souls again; and the rather, since it seems to be so interpreted, 1Pe_1:25 the phrases, "which liveth and abideth forever", may be either read in connection only with "God", and as descriptive of him, who is the living God, is from everlasting to everlasting, in distinction from idols; and here added, to show that he can give power and efficacy to his word, to regenerate and quicken, and will continue to preserve and make it useful to all his saving purposes; so Jarchi explains the passage in Isa_40:8 after referred to, "the word of our God shall stand for ever",

I could produce more, but I doubt that it would do any good. The point being that there is nothing about being born of incorruptible seed that would give the one born again divine revelation as you seem to think. The incorruptible seed is the description of the one performing the rebirth, the regeneration; it is not the description of the results of the rebirth, the regeneration.

Which you have just copied and pasted...a child could do that....never any discussion with you I’m afraid...with scripture I post and you never answer any of my questions....just copy and paste I’m afraid.

 

[Ritajanice]

I could produce more, but I doubt that it would do any good. The point being that there is nothing about being born of incorruptible seed that would give the one born again divine revelation as you seem to think. The incorruptible seed is the description of the one performing the rebirth, the regeneration; it is not the description of the results of the rebirth, the regeneration

Oh my word....so, you were Born Again and had no divine revelation of that act from God?

Is that what you are saying?

Born Again is a supernatural act that only God can do?

And you rebuke that....that’s how much you know about being “ Born Again of imperishable seed “ LOL.

 

[JBO]

Which you have just copied and pasted...a child could do that....never any discussion with you I’m afraid...with scripture I post and you never answer any of my questions....just copy and paste I’m afraid.

Copy and paste - something you should give some thought to. Since more than likely most anything you could copy and pasted would be more accurate than anything you would dream up.

 

[Ritajanice]

Copy and paste - something you should give some thought to. Since more than likely most anything you could copy and pasted would be more accurate than anything you would dream up.

You just said that I received no divine revelation when I became Born Again?

Please explain how you can become Born Again of imperishable seed...without divine revelation?

I look forward to hearing / reading your reply?

 

[JBO]

Oh my word....so, you were Born Again and had no divine revelation of that act from God?

Is that what you are saying?

Born Again is a supernatural act that only God can do?

And you rebuke that....that’s how much you know about being “ Born Again of imperishable seed “ LOL.

OK, I will try again. Go back and read what Barnes and Gill said about imperishable seed. This time try to grasp the truth of what they are saying.

 

[Ritajanice]

@JBO ....who says we don’t receive any divine revelation when we become Born Again....how could we understand the bible without the Spirit?

And what is this scripture if it’s not divine revelation from God to our spirit that is Born Again?

Romans 8

King James Version

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8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[Ritajanice]

OK, I will try again. Go back and read what Barnes and Gill said about imperishable seed. This time try to grasp the truth of what they are saying.

Please don’t change the subject.

How can you know you are Born Again without divine revelation?

You said I never received any divine revelation from God...I say you talk nonsense as all scripture regarding a Born Again is inspired and written by the word of God.....who is Spirit?

How else can we communicate with God if we aren’t Born Again of His Spirit?

We communicate with God through our spirit......as his word says we are none of His without his Spirit..

Born Again is heart revelation?....which means what?

John 3:6 ESV / 3,365 helpful votes​

That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Born of the Spirit is divine revelation?

 

[Scott Downey]

God tells us all souls are Mine
Ezekiel 18:4
“Behold, all souls are Mine; The soul of the father As well as the soul of the son is Mine; The soul who sins shall die.

Any soul God gave to Christ, all their sins are forgiven them as if they never were, they are not remembered to judgement by God.
The source and origin of all believers is they come from God, the Holy Spirit. This what God foreknowing and predestining some from before the foundation of the world means. God foreknew and chose them for salvation from the beginning to be saved.

John 10
29 My Father, who has given them to Me
John 17
6 “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.

John 17:12
While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.

John 17:22
And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one:

John 17:24
“Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.

John 18:9
that the saying might be fulfilled which He spoke, “Of those whom You gave Me I have lost none.”

Hebrews 2

Bringing Many Sons to Glory​

10 For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons to glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. 11 For both He who [g]sanctifies and those who are being sanctified are all of one, for which reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren, 12 saying:

“I will declare Your name to My brethren;
In the midst of the assembly I will sing praise to You.”
13 And again:

“I will put My trust in Him.”
And again:

“Here am I and the children whom God has given Me.”

2 Thessalonians 2
13 But we are [f]bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through [g]sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, 14 to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our [h]epistle.

16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace, 17 comfort your hearts and [i]establish you in every good word and work.

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[Ritajanice]

The spiritually dead are alienated from God, they need that divine revelation when God makes them Born Again of imperishable seed..

How easy is that to understand....as it’s the Spirit who witnesses to my spirit the truth of Gods word..

How would anyone know the word of God without his Spirit who guides us through his word and brings us to understanding......

1 Corinthians 2:7-16
But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. But as it is written:
"Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him." But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. For "who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?" But we have the mind of Christ.

 

[Ritajanice]

Once upon a time?

There was a “ new babe in Christ “ as in “ you” LOL.

 

[Red Baker]

1st Peter 1:23-26~"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you."

With all this talk concerning the incorruptible seed it behoves us that we should consider the sense in which Peter is speaking concerning our new birth in reference to the incorruptible seed that liveth and abideth for ever.

1. First, let us establish this truth~the scriptures given to us are the very testimonies of God concerning doctrinal truths that makes up the body of Divinity that the church of Jesus Christ believes and holds fast to. Case in hand would be~the new birth, which is under consideration in the text itself.

2. The incorruptible seed under consideration is without controversy the written word of God given from the very mouth of God~Matthew 4:4~being such, the witness of the scriptures are as eternal as God is, for Peter said: : "But the word of the Lord endureth for ever" because God who cannot lie has spoken and what he has spoken must be as eternal as he is.

Again, the scriptures are God's testimonies to us concerning ALL SPIRITUAL TRUTHS be what they may be~consider:

1st Corinthians 2:1~"And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God."

Again:

1st John 5:8-11~"And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son."

Again, the written word of God is his witness of all truths, and God's witness, incorruptible seed will endure for ever as long as God is God.

This is the word by which the gospel is preached unto men.

3. The word of God is not alive, but the witness it gives has enduring power because it came from God's own mouth and God is from everlasting to everlasting his testimony will never perish, impossible.

4. Now, how is a sinner born again? To the word of God we must go and see what is God's testimony concerning the new birth. John 3:1-8; John 1:13; so many other scriptures could be discuss. This is wide open for discussions.

We will add this~just because we are born again by the Spirit of the Living God apart from us having any active part in this new birth, doesn't mean we no longer sin~as some vainly believe....in our most holy moments sin is mixed with all we do, there are no deeds that we do whereby it can be said, was done in absolute perfectness without any sinful thoughts/deeds mixed in our duties toward God/and man. I only wish it was so, but if honest we know otherwise.

Must run to an appointment, sorry I rushed this.

 

[Ritajanice]

We were Born Again of imperishable / incorruptible seed, that is the Living word of God....many don’t understand that Gods word is “ His Living word, which comes to us via his Spirit ( Holy Spirit)”

A Born Again cannot go on sinning because they have been Born Again of “ incorruptible “ seed, that is the seed / word of God, when he testifies with our spirit that we are his children...

The Holy Spirit cannot In dwell a sinner, that is why we need to be Born Again...unfortunately some in their ignorance deny the Living word of God, because they aren’t at that level of spiritual understanding...

We have a new heart/ Spirit within.....therefore it’s the renewing of our minds that need to be changed, we have the mind of Christ.

Jesus sheep can only hear his voice and they run from a strangers voice...as it’s void of Gods Living word.

A Living Sacrifice​

1 Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship.
2 Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

Humble Service in the Body of Christ​

3 For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.
4 For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function,
5 so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.
6 We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your[a] faith;
7 if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach;
8 if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead,Romans 12 - NIV - Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in vi... do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully.

 

[Ritajanice]

2. The incorruptible seed under consideration is without controversy the written word of God

No it’s not, it’s the “ Living “ word of God?....Gods seed is the Holy Spirit....who is Alive in Spirit?

Gods word is Alive and Active you can’t contain him ,in your own human understanding, and there is the rub...

I AM THE HOLY SPIRIT, GOD’S SEED​

Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His (God’s) seed remains in him;
and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
1 John 3:9
I, the Holy Spirit, am the Seed who was planted in your life when you were born again. It was My presence that gave you eternal life, as well as a new nature and new desires. Just as a seed planted in the ground will grow and bring forth its fruit, so I, the Holy Spirit am the Seed planted in your heart who will bring forth the fruit of righteousness and godliness. A seed has all the ingredients of what it will be when fully grown, and I, the Holy Spirit, have everything you need to be completely godly and fully effective as My servant

1 John 3​

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New International Version​

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3 See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know him. 2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears,[a] we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.3 All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure.
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. 8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.

1 John 3

King James Version

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3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

 

[JBO]

God tells us all souls are Mine
Ezekiel 18:4
“Behold, all souls are Mine; The soul of the father As well as the soul of the son is Mine; The soul who sins shall die.

Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Nothing there about the sins of Adam, only the sins of the soul individually. The sins of Adam did not fall upon his sons. And the sins of his sons did not fall upon his son's son. So on and so forth right down to you me and the rest of humanity.

The source and origin of all believers is they come from God, the Holy Spirit. This what God foreknowing and predestining some from before the foundation of the world means. God foreknew and chose them for salvation from the beginning to be saved.

1 Peter 1:1-2 says that God predestined according to His foreknowledge. According to what foreknowledge? What did God foreknow?