The : Gay Agenda #2

[Marymog]

My question is. Are they married in the eyes of God?

No.

 

[Marymog]

Well, to begin with, God does not see them as married.
God sees them as perverted, and that "family" as a abomination.

Behold...........True, according to scripture they would not be married.

False, God does not see gay couples with children" as an abomination. The children in that situation are not sinning therefor God does not look upon them as an "abomination". He does not look upon the couple as an abomination. He looks upon sin as an abomination. ANY SIN! And we know what happens if we continue to sin.

If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

 

[Pearl]

The Presbyterian USA church would not. And, as is their custom would baptize their child.

My question is. Are they married in the eyes of God?

I wonder what would happen in a good church if a 'gay' family - a couple with children - were to come in to a meeting. I know what the bible says about 'gays' but it also has a lot to say about love, compassion and forgiveness.

I would hope that people, whatever their situation in life would be welcomed so that they can hear the good news of Jesus. I would hope that their children would be catered for alongside the others. Also I would hope that the people in the church would treat them with respect and not finger point. And most of all would hope that the church would treat them with love and gentleness and not damage the children by splitting up their family group - the only parents these innocent children know.

My point isn't about them being married, but no, that would only apply to a hetero couple.

 

[Jericho]

Travesti parties, Vladimir Lenin advocating sexual freedom, nudist anarchists aboard trams, a nude beach near the cathedral of Christ the Savior… such was Russian life at the beginning of the Soviet state. What could possibly go wrong?

“Stark naked people wearing armbands reading “Down With Shame!” have recently appeared in Moscow. A group was seen boarding a tram. The tram stopped, the public was outraged,” Mikhail Bulgakov, the famous Russian writer, wrote in his diary in 1924. Just 15 years prior to that, women could not think of going out in a knee-long dress. But did these changes happen overnight?

Pre-revolutionary Russian society, especially in the capitals, was not puritanical in nature. An anonymous soldier born at the end of 19th century recalls (link in Russian): “at 10, I had already been exposed to all kinds of lewd behaviour… Pornographic pictures were not exactly a rarity.”

Cross-dressing, travesti and gay parties were popular in artistic circles, with even a certain few noblemen having been known for being gay. Party life, often involving multiple partners, was a regular pastime for some. However, male homosexuality was a criminal offense… until Bolsheviks came onto the scene.

How sexual revolution exploded (and imploded) across 1920s Russia

 

[Behold]

False, God does not see gay couples with children" as an abomination.

You are talking about sinning children.
Im not talking about that.. at all.

The children are innocent, and are caught in a web of this "couple's sexual perversion".. so that situation, where these perverse homosexual people have "legalized" access to children this way, is an abomination in God's eyes.
And God is going to judge the nations that have legalized this abomination.
Its coming.

Reader, don't support Gay marriage, or Gay Adoption, or anything similar.
See, we are to RESIST the Devil's methods and situations, not agree with them, and certainly not LEGALIZE Them.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

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This is but one of the many reasons why America is undergoing Divine Judgment now.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

This is but one of the many reasons why America is undergoing Divine Judgment now.

True. And anyone who does not see it surely must blind.

My guess is they see it but have been so systematically desensitized to the fact that so much is wrong ...... that started with Hollyweird and furthered by MSM... they are simply numbed to the wrongs we are exposed to.

 

[Marymog]

You are talking about sinning children.
Im not talking about that.. at all.

The children are innocent, and are caught in a web of this "couple's sexual perversion".. so that situation, where these perverse homosexual people have "legalized" access to children this way, is an abomination in God's eyes.
And God is going to judge the nations that have legalized this abomination.
Its coming.

Reader, don't support Gay marriage, or Gay Adoption, or anything similar.
See, we are to RESIST the Devil's methods and situations, not agree with them, and certainly not LEGALIZE Them.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Behold]

Thanks for the clarification.

You're welcome.

 

[GracePeace]

But being gay is not a crime any more as it once was and people have the free choice to be gay. It isn't something that can be legislated against any more and that is quite right.

I know what the bible says but what did Jesus say about it?

Jesus was a Jew. What does the Torah say? Many issues were in dispute then, but homosexuality being an abomination wasn't disputed. That's something new.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

I wonder what would happen in a good church if a 'gay' family - a couple with children - were to come in to a meeting. I know what the bible says about 'gays' but it also has a lot to say about love, compassion and forgiveness.

I would hope that people, whatever their situation in life would be welcomed so that they can hear the good news of Jesus. I would hope that their children would be catered for alongside the others. Also I would hope that the people in the church would treat them with respect and not finger point. And most of all would hope that the church would treat them with love and gentleness and not damage the children by splitting up their family group - the only parents these innocent children know.

My point isn't about them being married, but no, that would only apply to a hetero couple.

You know what would happen.

They may be greeted cordially with a nod of a head and even a handshake or two.... but once back in the car on the way home or to brunch.... the conversation is likely to be non to gentle

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

i Heard just today that when Joe Biden was Vice President under Obama he was the one that pushed for
same sex marriage .

 

[GracePeace]

I wonder what would happen in a good church if a 'gay' family - a couple with children - were to come in to a meeting.

Isn't it "homophobic" for them to pretend to be heterosexual--for them to pretend to be fertile, to be able to bear children, when the very nature of their union is infertility?

It's actually self-hateful for them to not embrace their sterility, and pretend to be something they're not. Why not celebrate the truth of what they are--sterile? That would be REAL unadulterated homosexual celebration, not this fake "adoption" stuff so they can appear to be what they never will be.

 

[MrNoir]

I'm failing to see just how the OP post qualifies as "an agenda". It's just something someone wrote. and apparently not something even written seriously. There is no end to the horrible things conservative Christians have written about LGBT+ community. Should some random call for the imprisonment or even death of any and all LGBT+ people be considered the agenda of conservative Christians?

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

I'm failing to see just how the OP post qualifies as "an agenda". It's just something someone wrote. and apparently not something even written seriously. There is no end to the horrible things conservative Christians have written about LGBT+ community. Should some random call for the imprisonment or even death of any and all LGBT+ people be considered the agenda of conservative Christians?

I see it as everything that is over and above what would have been considered normal say in 1960 has an agenda about it.

I mention 1960 because that is a year that I was well aware of what was happening and the "norm" was considered to be a man and a woman, who would marry, and after that point would have a family.

Should a girl get pregnant before marriage, there either was the rushed marriage, or adoption. (or back street abortions)

When I was in highschool my public speaking teacher left for Christmas break and never came back because she was fired. She had gotten married over Christmas, but that was not a fault. The fault ws she was pregnant and had to and they could not expose the students to that.

6 years later the would started to turn upside down."free" sex was becoming the norm and so was drug usage, or the beginnings of it and I blame my generation for that. For the pushing and insistence of every single thing that would never have been in a "Father knows Best" show or even an Ozzie and Harriett.

If you are old enough to remember those, then you know what I say to be true.

There was a slow indoctrination into the full acceptance of homosexuality. Psychological studies came about
that claimed bi-sexual people were better adjusted then mono-sexual. So by the time the sitcom Will and Grace was airing weekly starting in 1998 and ending 8 seasons later people were only too happy to tune in and laugh.

It was the desensitizing that brought people to that point.

A very slow seduction that might well have started with 3s Company and 1 guy and 2 girls sharing an apartment and those who would frown on the guy living there ws told he was gay... so all was right in the world , even to the one girls dad who played a minister, who was ok as long as the guy was gay.

I could go on but till stop with these because I lived through it as many of you did.... and it was just going in a downward spire until the next part of the plan emerged.

I have no idea exactly when the next trend started .... but i became acutely aware of it maybe 10 years ago or so and that is the Tucking and Taping of young boys penises done by their mothers. Many articles of how
could be had back then. And there were supplies mom could buy. And they would start with their babies...

And I never knew why....other then they wanted girls and felt they would make these boys into girls.

And the term WOKE became part of vocabulary.....

These moms grew into moms who would take their young children to watch drag shows, and even give them money to tip the drag artists.

And many of these moms are month those in the teaching profession who will take a child and give the child anything it wants from changing the child's gender... after brainwashing into those young minds or seeing the an older one can get an abortion, illegal or not and mom and dad need never know.

I am stopping now because these things did not just happen. They were systematically ingrained into society
in a slow methodical way... but fairly muchwith in a lifetime when we are only promised 6score and 10.

 

[MrNoir]

I see it as everything that is over and above what would have been considered normal say in 1960 has an agenda about it.

[snip]

There was a slow indoctrination into the full acceptance of homosexuality. Psychological studies came about
that claimed bi-sexual people were better adjusted then mono-sexual. So by the time the sitcom Will and Grace was airing weekly starting in 1998 and ending 8 seasons later people were only too happy to tune in and laugh.

and thirty years earlier CBS television was he target of protests because they aired Star Trek which depicted Uhrah and Sulu as competent and respected officers.

It was the desensitizing that brought people to that point.

[snip]

And the term WOKE became part of vocabulary.....

woke
[wōk]
VERB

1. past of wake

ADJECTIVE
1. alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination

Woke entered the language in the 1930's
about 10 years ago various conservatives began using it as a derogatory term.




None of which addresses my point that the so called "gay agenda" presented in the OP is not an agenda at all.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

and thirty years earlier CBS television was he target of protests because they aired Star Trek which depicted Uhrah and Sulu as competent and respected officers.

woke
[wōk]
VERB

1. past of wake

ADJECTIVE
1. alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination

Woke entered the language in the 1930's
about 10 years ago various conservatives began using it as a derogatory term.




None of which addresses my point that the so called "gay agenda" presented in the OP is not an agenda at all.

I see it as a definite progression from the Satanic influences on humankind.

 

[marks]

I believe that people have the right to be anything they want to be as without knowing Jesus they are already lost in sin and condemned. Now the bible tells us that Jesus came into the world to save the world not condemn it.

But if a thief, violent criminal or occult follower comes to Jesus and repents we would expect them to stop thieving, being violent or clinging on to their occult practices.

However, with such a thing as homosexuality it is more difficult as relationships, emotions and love are involved. Can love be repented of?

Whilst I know what the scriptures say, to me this issue is not black and white as it may involve long term loving relationships - even life long commitment to each other.

In these views I am not talking about one night stands or promiscuity, they are a different thing entirely.

When I started to type my answer to this thread @Behold , I had no idea that this is what would come out.
But I have been praying about this exact thing just recently, asking God to guide my thoughts on the subject as I really felt unsure.

So while I now believe he has showed me part of the answer I still think there is more prayer needed on the matter before we condemn people.

Someone who has trusted in Jesus and is born again, and who struggles against their old way of living is no different than any other. God has deep work to do inside us, to heal us from the corruptions of sin. Some we were born with, some we were led into, and some we choose for ourselves, just the same, sin's corruption may sometimes be a lifelong battle.

Why God leaves some of us to struggle in some ways, and delivers others of us at times of His choosing, I can only speculate. But I don't believe in treating any of us any differently because of the particular nature of our struggle.

Much love!

 

[Behold]

I'm failing to see just how the OP post qualifies as "an agenda". It's just something someone wrote. and apparently not something even written seriously.

It's their marching orders. = "The Gay Agenda".

"infiltrate"... and they will "tolerate".

"Associate" and they will accept it, given time.

Eventually, you have people who are become this.. = "Blind Tolerance"..... and that is the goal of the Homosexual agenda.
its to associate you with GAY, until you view it with utter tolerance, no matter what..... no matter what... no matter what.

Eventually they'll have you so deceived that you be on a Christian Forum, defending gay sex acts. (Homosexuality), and proclaiming...."well, Lady Gaga said that they are born this way, so it must be true'...

 

[Jack]

I Cor 6 Homosexuals will not enter God's Kingdom!