Catholicism is Jewish Christianity. Here is the problem, Judaism is a religion of law. Paul said that under the New Covenant the law has been abolished, Ephesians 2:15. Jesus nailed it to his cross, Colossians 2:14. So, we don't know what you have now if there is no law.
Catholic Preist Sings Song About Lucifer
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Illuminator
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Yes, but you can't name one blood washed saint after John wrote Revelation. For the second time, would you like a list of martyrs in the first 3 centuries that you refuse to name???
Spoken like a true white man.
Clothing has no power; you insult my intelligence. Where does the Bible abolish the New Testament Priesthood???
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Great. Then we will all be Protestants and believe whatever WE think is the Truth. Jesus prayer will then (not) be answered after Phonemans crystal ball prediction:
‘I ask not only on behalf of these, but also on behalf of those who will believe in me through their word, 21 that they may all be one. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us,[a] so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 The glory that you have given me I have given them, so that they may be one, as we are one, 23 I in them and you in me, that they may become completely one, so that the world may know that you have sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.
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I don't think your that far off. But not because of the religion.
They are getting infiltrated with all kinds of beliefs entering into their gates.
The very gates Jesus told Peter evil would not prevail against.
Insurrection from without and invasion from within.
It's coming for ALL the denominations of Christ, everywhere.
Christendom is under attack, and most don't even see it.
It starts so little and so sneaky.. but we have to love everybody. Even if their own religion is opposed to God.
Even if they refuse to walk in righteousness and choose sinful lives. It's ok, let them in.
And they will go along to get along, until slowly little by little they move up the ranks.
And one day you find that the Pope is a muslim and believes that Jesus was just a prophet and we should all follow Mohamad.
Then they will change the rules and sharia law will have to be accepted because they follow the Pope who is a man who follows the ways of the world.
It's already happening in our government, in our school system, in the banks, everywhere....
And the last to fall will be Israel. They will face the same fate.
Because today, political correctness is the way to go, even if it goes against your own beliefs.
I don't care what religion you follow as long as YOU personally follow Jesus Christ alone as your saviour.
On her way to work one morning
Down the path alongside the lake
A tender-hearted woman saw a poor half-frozen snake
His pretty colored skin had been all frosted with the dew
“Oh well,” she cried, “I'll take you in and I'll take care of you”
“Take me in oh tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in oh tender woman,” sighed the snake
She wrapped him up all cozy in a curvature of silk
And then laid him by the fireside with some honey and some milk
Now she hurried home from work that night as soon as she arrived
She found that pretty snake she'd taken in had been revived
“Take me in, oh tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in oh tender woman,” sighed the snake
Now she clutched him to her bosom, “You're so beautiful,” she cried
“But if I hadn't brought you in by now you might have died”
Now she stroked his pretty skin and then she kissed and held him tight
But instead of saying thanks, that snake gave her a vicious bite
“Take me in, oh tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in oh tender woman,” sighed the snake
“I saved you,” cried that woman
“And you've bit me even, why?
You know your bite is poisonous and now I'm going to die”
“Oh shut up, silly woman,” said the reptile with a grin
“You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in
”Take me in, oh tender woman
Take me in, for heaven's sake
Take me in oh tender woman,“ sighed the snake
Who is the woman and who is the snake?
Most of you have probably heard this poem before and you will shrug it off as political jargon.
But there's truth in that there poem and people should heed it.
Specially the religious establishments.
Jas 1:27
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
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And many have no clue what our own government is trying once again to pass in congress.
If it passes you will have no rights to defend your beliefs. It's coming for everybody.
Read the article.
Understand that the ultimate goal of Satan is to remove God from everything, even your own hearts and minds if possible.
Mar 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
The governments of the world believe that they themselves are God. They promise you life, liberty and justice for all, while they steal your life and liberty and justice for all.
And if you don't comply, they will lock you up, torture you and eventually kill you.
Rev 2:10
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
I don't know how long "ten days" is in biblical terms,
but if one day is as a thousand years.... I shudder to think how long this may last.
But we do have this:
Mat 24:22
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
PRAY.
HUGS
If it passes you will have no rights to defend your beliefs. It's coming for everybody.
If the Equality Act becomes law, therefore, no one could claim that any federal government action under any of these statutes burdened their exercise of religion. The government could, either intentionally or incidentally, limit, restrict, or even prohibit religious practices without any regard for religious freedom whatsoever.
As the Religious Freedom Restoration Act Turns 30, the “Most Precious of All American Liberties” Is Again at Risk
When unanimously enacting the International Religious Freedom ActREF in 1998, Congress recognized that “[t]he right to freedom of religion undergirds the very origin and existence of the United States.”www.heritage.org
Read the article.
Understand that the ultimate goal of Satan is to remove God from everything, even your own hearts and minds if possible.
Mar 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
The governments of the world believe that they themselves are God. They promise you life, liberty and justice for all, while they steal your life and liberty and justice for all.
And if you don't comply, they will lock you up, torture you and eventually kill you.
Rev 2:10
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
I don't know how long "ten days" is in biblical terms,
but if one day is as a thousand years.... I shudder to think how long this may last.
But we do have this:
Mat 24:22
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
PRAY.
HUGS
Illuminator
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Who, exactly, is the Equity Act targeting?
Catholic League Calls Equality Act ‘Most Comprehensive Assault on Christianity Ever Written Into Law’
While its proponents insist that the Equality Act is about “ending discrimination,” it would in fact fundamentally alter the legal definition of sex to include sexual orientation and gender identity, Dr. Donohue argues.The Act would also undermine the Religious Freedom Restoration Act by conferring special status on gay rights, prioritizing them over religious freedom and conscience rights, he added.
The Equality Act would also require healthcare providers to provide “hormone therapies and surgical procedures that are required to change the physical characteristics associated with sex changes,” Donohue observes, without regard for the beliefs of healthcare workers.
“It has become increasingly clear that the expansion of rights to transgender women — really biological males who identify as female — has come at the expense of rights for biological females,” Donohue adds.
“Boys and men would be allowed to compete in sports with girls and women, thus unfairly altering women’s athletics,” he writes. Moreover, “biological males can use the locker rooms, restrooms and shower facilities that have always been reserved for females.”
This would also mean that “Catholics, evangelicals, Orthodox Jews, Mormons, Muslims, and many other religious communities could not raise religious liberty objections to any of the aforementioned rights of transgender women,” Donohue warns.
“It is hard for the public to understand, especially Catholics, why such allegedly ‘devout Catholics’ as Biden and Pelosi would want to champion such patently anti-Christian legislation as the Equality Act,” he concludes.
On its website, the U.S. Catholic Bishops’ Conference warns that the Equality Act would “discriminate against people of faith” and “punish faith-based organizations, such as charities and schools who serve everyone in their communities, simply because of their beliefs.”
The proposed legislation would also “force girls and women to compete against boys and men for limited opportunities in sports, and to share locker rooms and shower spaces with biological males who identify as women,” the bishops note.
It would also “force people in everyday life, and especially health care workers, to support gender transition,” they add.
Last week, Kansas City Archbishop Joseph Naumann said Biden should “stop defining himself as a devout Catholic and acknowledge that his view on abortion is contrary to Catholic moral teaching.”
source
Anti-Catholicism is a tradition of men.
Illuminator
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When the United States was founded, it inherited the anti-Catholic animus of its original Protestant settlers, many of whom were Anglican until the American Revolution, when they were renamed “Episcopalians” since they severed ties with England and thus with the king of England as the head of their church.
Anti-Catholic sentiments in America reached a peak in the nineteenth century when the Protestant population became alarmed by the number of Catholics immigrating to America. This was due in part to the standard tensions that arise between native citizens and foreign immigrants, and the resulting “nativist” movement, which achieved prominence in the 1840s, was whipped into a frenzy of anti-Catholicism that led to mob violence, the burning of Catholic property, and the killing of Catholics. There were Catholics who were martyred in America by the Protestant community. The nativist movement found expression in a national political movement called the Know-Nothing Party of the 1850s, which (unsuccessfully) ran former president Millard Fillmore as its presidential candidate in 1856.
Eventually tensions eased, and the Protestant population discovered that Catholics were not trying to seize control of the American government. Still, there were fears even into the twentieth century that there was undue “Catholic influence” on the government, and presidents who met with the pope were criticized. Tensions did not subside enough to allow a Catholic to be elected president until 1960, and even now Catholics who run for president find their religious beliefs subjected to extra scrutiny in the press.
By this point, a new form of anti-Catholicism had emerged. For the first time, part of the non-Christian world became aware of and hostile toward Catholics as a distinct group of Christians. As the cultural and political fabric of Europe and America disintegrated, large numbers of people began to leave both Catholicism and Protestantism, at first still saying they believed in God or were still Christians in some sense. Later, more began to profess agnosticism or atheism or to experiment with other religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and the various New Age sects that Americanized Eastern ideas. This group either had, disgruntled, left the Catholic Church or had come from the already anti-Catholic Protestant community. As a result, they tended to hold anti-Catholic attitudes.
Because the recent cultural and political disintegration in large part stemmed from the actions of those in upper political, economic, and especially academic and media circles, many people in those fields are especially hostile to Catholicism. Consequently, things concerning Catholics are said in classrooms, books, broadcasts, speeches, and movies that would never be tolerated if said about other religious or social groups.
It has been suggested that anti-Catholicism is the last socially respectable prejudice in America. Toleration has been extended to other groups, and they cannot be subjected to verbal abuse in public. This is not quite true (conservative Protestants and Moslems come in for similar attacks, often under the labeled of being “Fundamentalist”). However, it does illustrate the irony of those who profess to be the most open of different viewpoints being so closed to the Catholic one.
Because of the strength of secularism in Western society, secular anti-Catholicism is now a more serious worry in the long term than Protestant anti-Catholicism. Fortunately, Catholic advocacy groups such as the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights have begun to provide a Catholic counterpart to the organizations such as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and the Jewish Anti-Defamation League that advocate the rights of other groups.
In Protestant circles, there has been a general decline in anti-Catholicism over the past hundred years. Liberal Protestants have gone a long way to ending old hostilities, though they are still nervous about the firmness with which the Catholic Church teaches historic Christian doctrines. In conservative Protestant communities, there has also been a lessening of anti-Catholicism.
However, in the 1990s there was a significant anti-Catholic resurgence among some Protestants. This chiefly was due to two things:
(1) the number of ecumenical gestures Protestants, including many conservatives, made toward Catholics and
(2) a renaissance in Catholic apologetics that began to win large numbers of devout, conservative Protestant converts to Catholicism.
These two factors alarmed the anti-Catholic elements in conservative Protestantism, and a large number of new anti-Catholic books, tracts, tapes, and videos began to appear. Among the most significant of the current wave of anti-Catholic Protestants are Jack T. Chick, Dave Hunt, John MacArthur, John Ankerberg, and James McCarthy.
As the forgoing has indicated, anti-Catholicism is not static but changes over time. Even the arguments that are used against Catholics change over time. A hundred years ago, many Protestants charged that Catholics were unpatriotic because they resisted placing their children in American public schools. With the secularization of the American schoolroom, this argument has disappeared. With increasing secularism but also increasing ecumenism, it remains to be seen what shape anti-Catholicism will take in the future. It may happen that we will return to a situation like that of the first century, where Christians are persecuted indiscriminately of their denomination by a hostile, anti-Christian world.
further reading:
www.catholic.com
Anti-Catholic sentiments in America reached a peak in the nineteenth century when the Protestant population became alarmed by the number of Catholics immigrating to America. This was due in part to the standard tensions that arise between native citizens and foreign immigrants, and the resulting “nativist” movement, which achieved prominence in the 1840s, was whipped into a frenzy of anti-Catholicism that led to mob violence, the burning of Catholic property, and the killing of Catholics. There were Catholics who were martyred in America by the Protestant community. The nativist movement found expression in a national political movement called the Know-Nothing Party of the 1850s, which (unsuccessfully) ran former president Millard Fillmore as its presidential candidate in 1856.
Eventually tensions eased, and the Protestant population discovered that Catholics were not trying to seize control of the American government. Still, there were fears even into the twentieth century that there was undue “Catholic influence” on the government, and presidents who met with the pope were criticized. Tensions did not subside enough to allow a Catholic to be elected president until 1960, and even now Catholics who run for president find their religious beliefs subjected to extra scrutiny in the press.
By this point, a new form of anti-Catholicism had emerged. For the first time, part of the non-Christian world became aware of and hostile toward Catholics as a distinct group of Christians. As the cultural and political fabric of Europe and America disintegrated, large numbers of people began to leave both Catholicism and Protestantism, at first still saying they believed in God or were still Christians in some sense. Later, more began to profess agnosticism or atheism or to experiment with other religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and the various New Age sects that Americanized Eastern ideas. This group either had, disgruntled, left the Catholic Church or had come from the already anti-Catholic Protestant community. As a result, they tended to hold anti-Catholic attitudes.
Because the recent cultural and political disintegration in large part stemmed from the actions of those in upper political, economic, and especially academic and media circles, many people in those fields are especially hostile to Catholicism. Consequently, things concerning Catholics are said in classrooms, books, broadcasts, speeches, and movies that would never be tolerated if said about other religious or social groups.
It has been suggested that anti-Catholicism is the last socially respectable prejudice in America. Toleration has been extended to other groups, and they cannot be subjected to verbal abuse in public. This is not quite true (conservative Protestants and Moslems come in for similar attacks, often under the labeled of being “Fundamentalist”). However, it does illustrate the irony of those who profess to be the most open of different viewpoints being so closed to the Catholic one.
Because of the strength of secularism in Western society, secular anti-Catholicism is now a more serious worry in the long term than Protestant anti-Catholicism. Fortunately, Catholic advocacy groups such as the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights have begun to provide a Catholic counterpart to the organizations such as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and the Jewish Anti-Defamation League that advocate the rights of other groups.
In Protestant circles, there has been a general decline in anti-Catholicism over the past hundred years. Liberal Protestants have gone a long way to ending old hostilities, though they are still nervous about the firmness with which the Catholic Church teaches historic Christian doctrines. In conservative Protestant communities, there has also been a lessening of anti-Catholicism.
However, in the 1990s there was a significant anti-Catholic resurgence among some Protestants. This chiefly was due to two things:
(1) the number of ecumenical gestures Protestants, including many conservatives, made toward Catholics and
(2) a renaissance in Catholic apologetics that began to win large numbers of devout, conservative Protestant converts to Catholicism.
These two factors alarmed the anti-Catholic elements in conservative Protestantism, and a large number of new anti-Catholic books, tracts, tapes, and videos began to appear. Among the most significant of the current wave of anti-Catholic Protestants are Jack T. Chick, Dave Hunt, John MacArthur, John Ankerberg, and James McCarthy.
As the forgoing has indicated, anti-Catholicism is not static but changes over time. Even the arguments that are used against Catholics change over time. A hundred years ago, many Protestants charged that Catholics were unpatriotic because they resisted placing their children in American public schools. With the secularization of the American schoolroom, this argument has disappeared. With increasing secularism but also increasing ecumenism, it remains to be seen what shape anti-Catholicism will take in the future. It may happen that we will return to a situation like that of the first century, where Christians are persecuted indiscriminately of their denomination by a hostile, anti-Christian world.
further reading:
The History of Anti-Catholicism
One of the most tenacious problems a Catholic apologist encounters is anti-Catholicism. In order to effectively counter it, we need to have some appreciation of...
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Ziggy
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People who believe in Jesus Christ and are born again and walk not in the ways of this world.
It is attacking ALL people of Faith in Jesus Christ and God our Father.
The catholic church is not immune from the trojan horse about to invade it.
Allah Satan and Jesus can not share the same pulpit I'm sorry, no can do.
And transgenders and Gays need to quit their promiscuity.
But this isn't the real trojan horse friend.
They will bring in their own religions and beliefs and very slowly and secretly change the very foundation of the church.
It's already happening..
Hugs
I'm not bashing anybody, I'm just giving warning.
Political correctness is not God's way it's man's way.
Lot of Bishops in the world see exactly whats going on and they are sounding alarms as well.
Is anybody listening?
I hope so.
Illuminator
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Did you listen to what the Pope said? He isn't changing anything. He is not endorsing same sex unions, that's impossible. Elsewhere, the Pope said transgender ideology is diabolical, you obviously missed it. And we don't shoot our wounded.
You are editorializing a video to force it into your anti-Catholic agenda.
I wrote, It may happen that we will return to a situation like that of the first century, where Christians are persecuted indiscriminately of their denomination by a hostile, anti-Christian world.
a hostile, anti-Christian world that you feed.
Here are 12 reasons why the Equality Act is so insane.
EQUALITY ACT IS MADNESS ON STILTS
Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on the Equality Act: The Equality Act is the most comprehensive assault on religious liberty, the right to life, and privacy rights ever packaged into one bill in the history of the United States. It passed the House Judiciary Committee last week...
www.catholicleague.org
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No – it doesn’t.
Jesus told the leaders of His Church:
Matt 16:16-19, 18: 18
Amen, I say to you, WHATEVER YOU BIND on earth shall be bound in heaven, and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
John 16:12-15
“I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now.
But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to ALL truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to YOU the things that are coming.
He will glorify me, because he will TAKE from what is MINE and declare it to YOU.
Everything that the Father has is MINE; for this reason I told you that he will TAKE from what is MINE and declare it to YOU.
Luke 10:16
Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME."
He didn’t say these things to the crowds and it cetainly wasn't referring to a heterodox 18th century man-made sects like YOURS . . .
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Didn’t I ALREADY explain to you that Satan is NOT being referred to here?
BOTH Jesus AND Satan are referred to as “morning star” (lucifer” – not, “Lucifer) in Scripture. Satan in Isaiah 14:12 - and Jesus in Rev. 22:16.
THIS is the context of the Larin song the priest sang.
YOUR complete ignorance of Latin is the issue here – NOT the priest.
Do your homework . . .
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Okay – since all of your anti-Catholic friends on this thread were asked this question – and ALL FAILLED miserable to answer – I’ll pose it to YOU:
WHERE did your Protestant Fathers get your 66-Book Canon of Scripture?
The Bible doesn’t tell us which Books belong in it – so the list HAD to come from somebody . . .
Ziggy
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I'm no scholar but I believe there were a group of people that sat down around a really big table and looked over every piece of information that was supplied to them from the Apostles and people in the area, from Priests and whatever they could find.
I understand that in the catacombs under the Catholic church there are tunnels that run miles with all kinds of literature they won't share with the world...
Kind of like the Pharisees who kept the keys of the kingdom from the people.
But this group of men I believe were inspired by the Holy Spirit to choose wisely which books were authorized by God and which were not.
Because the ebbs and flows from Genesis to Revelation are undeniably in sinc to the the jot and tittle.
That's how I understand it. I don't know I wasn't there. And I don't have a way to get their spin on it because their dead.
Mat 23:13
But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Mat 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Jesus IS the Law. And when man finally understands that truth, then all will be fulfilled.
Hugs
Lucifer is not referred to as the morning star in Isaiah 14:12. He is referred to as the son of the morning. He is still Satan and not a star.
Jesus is the bright and morning star, Revelation 22:16. You are not able to receive truth.
The priest said that Jesus was the son of Lucifer. A blasphemous statement.
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THAT’S what you think happened??
You are completely oblivious as to how the Canon of Scriptire came about – so, how can you reject some Books as “uninspired” .
This is the thing that baffles me the MOST about Protestants.
The Bible is your SOLE Authority – yet you guys don’t even know where you got the Canon of Scripture that your Protestant Fathers told you was “inspired”.
YOU understand?? And WHO told you this manure?
Can you substantiate ANY of that nonsense??
Uhhhh – that would be the CATHOLIC CHURCH that you are claiming was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
So, when did thy get “UNinspired”??
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You’re either more dense – or dishonest than I thought . . .This is a direct translation from the Larin Vulgate into English, Einstein . . .
Isaiah 14:12.
"quomodo cecidisti de caelo lucifer qui mane oriebaris corruisti in terram qui vulnerabas gentes"
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O lucifer, who didst rise in the morning? how art thou fallen to the earth, that didst wound the nations?"
As I stated before – this is NOT used as a proper noun – bur r as a description.
Sarab us also referred to a s a “lion” (1 Peter 5:8) – and so is Jesus (Rev. 5:5).
EPIC FAILURE on your part . . .
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