Catholic Preist Sings Song About Lucifer

[David in NJ]

How many moments are years to God?

I agree that we should "be prepared". But not in the same way that SOME say.

Happy Thanksgiving

 

[Mink57]

Happy Thanksgiving

Thanks. Right back atcha! :)

 

[Robert Pate]

There are worldwide events that must take place first, so there are still some years available for mankind to seek the LORD.

"and this gospel will be prached in all the world and then the end(satan's rule) will come."

The only thing that we should be looking forward to is the return of Jesus.

 

[David in NJ]

The only thing that we should be looking forward to is the return of Jesus.

Do you believe Jesus?
Read Matthew ch24

Do you believe His Apostles?
Read 1 Thess and 2 Thess and 1 John

Do you believe the OT Prophets?
Read Daniel

Do you believe Jesus?
Read Revelation

 

[Marymog]

33 things you had better not do or believe or you are anathema. No confusion, just facts.

Hmmmm……you have read a reliable translation from the council and you found 33 declarations in it that declare a person anathema if they don’t believe what the church teaches?

I have searched for that and can’t find it. Would you please share it with me?

Thank you in advance…..Mary

 

[Robert Pate]

Hmmmm……you have read a reliable translation from the council and you found 33 declarations in it that declare a person anathema if they don’t believe what the church teaches?

I have searched for that and can’t find it. Would you please share it with me?

Thank you in advance…..Mary

Try googling. "Canons of the Council of Trent" At the end of each cannon it says... "Let him be anathema". Anathema means to be excommunicated from the Catholic church. To be excommunicated from the Catholic church means to be sentence to hell.

 

[Mink57]

Hmmmm……you have read a reliable translation from the council and you found 33 declarations in it that declare a person anathema if they don’t believe what the church teaches?

I have searched for that and can’t find it. Would you please share it with me?

Thank you in advance…..Mary

Hi Mary,

As usual, Robert Pate won't provide his source.

Here's the one I find most reliable:

General Council of Trent: Sixth Session - Papal Encyclicals

[Page 30] Celebrated on the thirteenth day of the month of January, 1547. DECREE ON JUSTIFICATION Proem.Whereas there is, at this time, not without the shipwreck of many souls, and grievous detriment to the unity of the Church, a certain … <a...

www.papalencyclicals.net

Scroll down to find the 33 Canons.

 

[Robert Pate]

Do you believe Jesus?
Read Matthew ch24

Do you believe His Apostles?
Read 1 Thess and 2 Thess and 1 John

Do you believe the OT Prophets?
Read Daniel

Do you believe Jesus?
Read Revelation

I believe the whole Bible and I believe that Jesus will return. The destruction of Jerusalem has already happened, Matthew 24:1-35. from Matthew 24:36-51 is about the return of Jesus. No man knows when Jesus will return. Many have written books about when Jesus will return and what will happen before he returns. Some have made fools of themselves trying to predict the return of Jesus, I am not one of them.

 

[ThePuffyBlob]

Don't worry about these matters. True believers won't stray, as they listen to the voice of the Lamb of God and faithfully follow.

 

[Robert Pate]

Hi Mary,

As usual, Robert Pate won't provide his source.

Here's the one I find most reliable:

General Council of Trent: Sixth Session - Papal Encyclicals

[Page 30] Celebrated on the thirteenth day of the month of January, 1547. DECREE ON JUSTIFICATION Proem.Whereas there is, at this time, not without the shipwreck of many souls, and grievous detriment to the unity of the Church, a certain … <a...

www.papalencyclicals.net

Scroll down to find the 33 Canons.

There is nothing in what you posted about the 33 canons of the Council of Trent.

 

[Illuminator]

There is nothing in what you posted about the 33 canons of the Council of Trent.

Interview with Francis Beckwith, former President of the Theological Evangelical Society (overseer of 1000 Protestant theologians)

You spent 32 years in the evangelical world. What could Catholics learn from evangelicals?

In terms of expository preaching, as well as teaching the laity, Protestant evangelicals are without peers in the Christian world.
For instance, it is not unusual for evangelical churches to host major conferences on theological issues in which leading scholars address lay audiences in order to equip them to share their faith with their neighbors, friends, etc. Works by evangelical philosophers and theologians such as [J.P.] Moreland, [Paul] Copan, and William Lane Craig, should be in the library of any serious Catholic who wants to be equipped to respond to contemporary challenges to the Christian faith.

* * *
Then I read the Council of Trent, which some Protestant friends had suggested I do. What I found was shocking. I found a document that had been nearly universally misrepresented by many Protestants, including some friends.
I do not believe, however, that the misrepresentation is the result of purposeful deception. But rather, it is the result of reading Trent with Protestant assumptions and without a charitable disposition.

For example, Trent talks about the four causes of justification, which correspond somewhat to Aristotle’s four causes. None of these causes is the work of the individual Christian. For, according to Trent, God’s grace does all the work. However, Trent does condemn “faith alone,” but what it means is mere intellectual assent without allowing God’s grace to be manifested in one’s actions and communion with the Church. This is why Trent also condemns justification by works.

I am convinced that the typical “Council of Trent” rant found on anti-Catholic websites is the Protestant equivalent of the secular urban legend that everyone prior to Columbus believed in a flat earth.

READ THE WHOLE THING

 

[David in NJ]

I believe the whole Bible and I believe that Jesus will return. The destruction of Jerusalem has already happened, Matthew 24:1-35. from Matthew 24:36-51 is about the return of Jesus. No man knows when Jesus will return. Many have written books about when Jesus will return and what will happen before he returns. Some have made fools of themselves trying to predict the return of Jesus, I am not one of them.

Jerusalem/Israel has 'blossomed' again in their land = just as Jesus prophesied = Matthew ch24

“Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near—at the doors! Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away."

 

[Mink57]

There is nothing in what you posted about the 33 canons of the Council of Trent.

Like I told Mary, SCROLL DOWN the page. The 33 Canons are listed after Chapter XVI under " On Justification."

 

[Mink57]

Interview with Francis Beckwith, former President of the Theological Evangelical Society (overseer of 1000 Protestant theologians)










READ THE WHOLE THING

Illuminator,

I clicked on "Read the Whole Thing", and it took me a site that says, "Page Not Found."

 

[Mink57]

Try googling. "Canons of the Council of Trent" At the end of each cannon it says... "Let him be anathema". Anathema means to be excommunicated from the Catholic church. To be excommunicated from the Catholic church means to be sentence to hell.

Again, this is not true. The Church does not believe that it has any power to sentence anyone to hell. Only God can do that.

 

[Illuminator]

Illuminator,

I clicked on "Read the Whole Thing", and it took me a site that says, "Page Not Found."

Oops. But there is plenty of stuff on line about Francis Beckwith.

Evangelium Vitae and the Rationality of Catholic Thought​

It's way over Pate's head, he is afraid of it in the first place.

 

[Marymog]

Try googling. "Canons of the Council of Trent" At the end of each cannon it says... "Let him be anathema". Anathema means to be excommunicated from the Catholic church. To be excommunicated from the Catholic church means to be sentence to hell.

Hey Robert,

I kept finding questionable websites that I didn’t trust but I finally found reliable information. Yes, the 33 canons end in let him be anathema.

It doesn’t mean one is sentenced to hell Nor does it mean one is automatically excommunicated from The Church. Would you care to learn what it means?

The church is the pillar and foundation of truth AND scripture says The Church has the authority to excommunicate a person. I know you believe the Catholic church isn’t the Church spoken of in Scripture. Which church is it.?

 

[Marymog]

Don't worry about these matters. True believers won't stray, as they listen to the voice of the Lamb of God and faithfully follow.

How does one get confirmed as a “true believer”. For instance I might say you aren’t and you might say I aren’t. Who is right?

 

[Marymog]

There is nothing in what you posted about the 33 canons of the Council of Trent.

I found it…..just scroll down thru most of the document

 

[Marymog]

Try googling. "Canons of the Council of Trent" At the end of each cannon it says... "Let him be anathema". Anathema means to be excommunicated from the Catholic church. To be excommunicated from the Catholic church means to be sentence to hell.

Why not just provide a reliable link?